View Full Version : Why won’t a Jew say “Jesus ?”
wordsponge
05-17-2014, 09:12 AM
Exod.23
[13] and be circumspect in all the things (Teachings),
that I (Moses) have said to you,
and MAKE NO MENTION of the name of other gods (like JESUS)
nor let it (the name of another god like JESUS),
be heard out of your mouth.
Jews and Messianic who hold this rule,
and who do not know that Jesus was their national God,
will NEVER call on Jesus, in baptism.
They are not Christians.
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The R.C. have, illegally
changed the Word of GOD,
and they have removed, calling on Jesus,
from GOD’s Baptism Ordinance.
Isa.24
[5] The earth is defiled under its inhabitants
because they have transgressed the (N.T.) laws.
(They have) changed the ordinance (of Baptism)
(They have) broken the (NEW and) Everlasting Covenant.
[6] Therefore the curse (regarding Baptism)
has devoured the earth
and the races who dwell therein,
are desolate: (without Christ and GOD)
Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned,
and few (spiritually LEARNED) men left.
[7] The new wine (that Jesus brought) mourns.
The vine languishes.
All the (CORRECTLY baptized) merry hearted (people) sigh.
[8] The mirth of tabrets ceases.
The sounds of the people who rejoice has ended.
The joy of the harp ceases.
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wordsponge
05-17-2014, 07:24 PM
Acts.2
[17] and it shall come to pass in the last days (as GOD's people)
saith GOD (the Father)
I will pour out of my Spirit (the Holy Spirit), upon all flesh
and your sons and your daughters
shall prophesy, (teach about GOD ad Christ >>)
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens
I will pour out, of my Spirit, in (during) those days (of the Apostles)
and they shall prophesy.
[19] And I will show wonders in heaven above,
and signs in the earth beneath;
blood and fire, and vapor of smoke:
[20] The sun (Jewish wise teachers),
shall be turned into darkness,
and the moon (enlighteners) into blood,
before that great and notable day,
of the Lord (the Father) comes (in 70 A.D.)
[21] and it shall come to pass (or be in effect),
that whoever shall call,
on the name of the Lord (the God of Israel = Jesus) shall be saved.
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Placed, by GOD, in a very tight SPOT.
wordsponge
05-17-2014, 08:11 PM
Jews are one means of Testing, our knowledge and our Faith...
I have such Jewish acquaintances..
They are clear on their reasons and their Agenda.
Gentiles were swerved from their Mighty Savior,
starting, very early at baptism.
wordsponge
05-17-2014, 08:16 PM
The guaranteed way...
Repeating for the sisters and brothers who haven't heard.
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Calling on the name of the LORD is customary.
Acts.22
[16] Now why do you tarry (Paul)?
Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins,
calling on the name of the LORD (who incarnated as Jesus Christ)
Pss.116
[13] I will take (happily accept) the Cup of Salvation (from the dishonored Son)
and I will call upon the name of the LORD (Jesus, starting in baptism)
Pss.99
[6] Moses and Aaron were among his Priests
and Samuel was among those (Judges) of Israel,
who call upon his name
They called upon the LORD (Jesus) and he answered them.
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Time Magazine, Dec. 5, 1955:
Record of a True Baptism in Rome 100 A.D.
"The deacon raised his hand,
and Publius Decius stepped through
the baptistery door.
Standing waist-deep in the pool
was Marcus Vasca the wood seller.
He was smiling
as Publius waded into the pool beside him.
'Credis?' he asked.
Credo' responded Publius.
'I believe that my salvation
comes from Jesus the Christ,
who was crucified under Pontius Pilate.
With Him I died that with Him I may have Eternal Life.'
Then he felt strong arms supporting him as he let himself fall backward into the pool,
and heard Marcus' voice in his ear,
'I baptize you in the Name of the Lord Jesus'
as the cold water closed over (buried) him."
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The above Baptism conforms to the Scriptures.
The baptizer called upon/ over the BURIED candidate the 'name of the LORD Jesus, our Savior.'
Calling on the name of the LORD can be found throughout the ’Israelite Scriptures.’
To call God by his name, to get his attention and a response,
was always the sensible Israelite custom.
Gentiles came to join the Israelite GOD, his Son and his children,
were taught to obey the teachings that were described as ‘not grievous.’
The candidate MUST also
PERSONALLY call on Jesus, (not being like a stranger),
for forgiveness and a good life,
while >> buried under the water
or we get no response from Jesus.*
wordsponge
05-22-2014, 09:19 AM
Jews think the Christians are idolaters, by worshipping Jesus.
Jesus, beyond the Son of GOD,
has to be revealed to a person.
wordsponge
05-23-2014, 01:34 AM
Exod.23
[13] and be circumspect in all the things (Teachings),
that I (Moses) have said to you,
and MAKE NO MENTION of the name of other gods (like JESUS)
nor let it (the name of another god like JESUS),
be heard out of your mouth.
Jews and Messianic who hold this rule,
and who do not know that Jesus was their national God,
will NEVER call on Jesus, in baptism.
They are not Christians.
+++
The R.C. have, illegally
changed the Word of GOD,
and they have removed, calling on Jesus,
from GOD’s Baptism Ordinance.
Isa.24
[5] The earth is defiled under its inhabitants
because they have transgressed the (N.T.) laws.
(They have) changed the ordinance (of Baptism)
(They have) broken the (NEW and) Everlasting Covenant.
[6] Therefore the curse (regarding Baptism)
has devoured the earth
and the races who dwell therein,
are desolate: (without Christ and GOD)
Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned,
and few (spiritually LEARNED) men left.
[7] The new wine (that Jesus brought) mourns.
The vine languishes.
All the (CORRECTLY baptized) merry hearted (people) sigh.
[8] The mirth of tabrets ceases.
The sounds of the people who rejoice has ended.
The joy of the harp ceases.
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JEWS are not appointed to Teach Christians.
Their religion was made by old Jewish men (=Tradition of the Elders)
and not by GOD through Moses.
Isa.19 Isaiah predicted >>
[13] The princes of Zoan (the Jewish rulers),
have become fools.
The princes of Noph (the Jewish rulers),
are deceived.
Also they, precisely the High Ones,
who are the stay of its tribes,
have seduced Egypt, (the oppressive, lawyers)
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[14] The LORD has mingled a perverse spirit in the Priests’ midst.
and the Priests have caused Egypt to err in every work,
like a drunken man staggers in his vomit.
[15] Nor shall there be any work (involvement in Christianity)
for Egypt, (the oppressive ones)
that the head or tail, branch or rush, may do.
Matt.21
[43] Therefore I (the God of Israel),
Say to you, (the chief priests and the elders),
The Kingdom of GOD (the Priesthood),
shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation (the Apostles and converts = the Christians),
who bring forth its fruits (the good deeds of the Salvation of men).
Michael The Disciple
05-23-2014, 01:58 AM
Messianic Jews call the name of Jesus. There is a group called 'Jews For Jesus". Don't get any clearer than that.
wordsponge
05-23-2014, 02:54 AM
Messianic Jews call the name of Jesus. There is a group called 'Jews For Jesus". Don't get any clearer than that.
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Playing with words.
Historically, Jews were NEVER for Jesus.
The Tests is:
Do they baptize calling on Jesus,
like the Apostles taught, worldwide,
or in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit..
OR NOT ALL
GOD is particular and things are ordered in particular ways.
wordsponge
05-23-2014, 11:24 AM
Jews never call on Jesus.
R.C. stopped calling on JESUS,
and severed his name from GOD's Baptism Ordinance.
R.C. = Jews sucking from needy Gentiles ???
wordsponge
05-23-2014, 12:38 PM
Jews want to build an illegal Temple
and dethrone the Christians
as the people of GOD and the TEMPLE of GOD.
What is laughable is that some Gentiles are helping them...
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