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oneinkhorn
05-28-2014, 08:22 PM
Male student named Connecticut school's prom queen

http://news.msn.com/us/male-student-named-connecticut-schools-prom-queen


http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/connecticut-high-schooler-makes-history-by-becoming-schools-first-gay-male-prom-queen__oPt.jpg


DANBURY, Conn. (AP) — A 17-year-old boy has been named prom queen at his Connecticut high school and says he's making a point about gender labeling and discrimination.

Nasir Fleming won the Danbury High School title last week. He was nominated as prom king and prom queen but decided to be considered only for queen.

Fleming tells the News Times newspaper he's been openly gay since sixth grade and has struggled with bullying. He says he isn't sure whether the students who submitted his name were making fun of his sexuality but decided it was a good opportunity to make a point about the importance of being who you are.

He says either way he's "still fabulous."

Fleming says students at the prom were supportive and erupted in cheers when he won.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-TbFxCTE4&feature=player_embedded

Disciple4life
05-28-2014, 08:26 PM
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Fionn mac Cumh
05-29-2014, 08:10 AM
If you want to be a homo, well then whatever. But why do Lesbians/Gays have to go out of their way to act like the opposite sex?

houston
05-29-2014, 08:24 AM
Want to be a homo...

*laughs*

bishoph
05-29-2014, 11:24 AM
Want to be a homo...

*laughs*

Respectfully, it IS a CHOICE.....NOT genetic.

FlamingZword
05-29-2014, 11:25 AM
I would not be surprised if someone in some near future pretended to be a homosexual in order to get the special privileges they are beginning to get.

Aquila
05-29-2014, 01:13 PM
Respectfully, it IS a CHOICE.....NOT genetic.

Paul said there was no good thing in the flesh. If genetic, it only proves that the flesh is predisposed to various sinful proclivities. It would also illustrate the battle between one's spirit and the flesh. However, the Jesus I serve is lavish in regards to His grace, and has the power to heal, and bring victory over, all infirmities of the flesh.

So let science bring on the possibility of genetic connection. It only proves the debased and fallen nature of the flesh. Something we've known and warned about for nearly 2,000 years.

Praxeas
05-29-2014, 04:05 PM
Male student named Connecticut school's prom queen

http://news.msn.com/us/male-student-named-connecticut-schools-prom-queen


http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/connecticut-high-schooler-makes-history-by-becoming-schools-first-gay-male-prom-queen__oPt.jpg


DANBURY, Conn. (AP) — A 17-year-old boy has been named prom queen at his Connecticut high school and says he's making a point about gender labeling and discrimination.

Nasir Fleming won the Danbury High School title last week. He was nominated as prom king and prom queen but decided to be considered only for queen.

Fleming tells the News Times newspaper he's been openly gay since sixth grade and has struggled with bullying. He says he isn't sure whether the students who submitted his name were making fun of his sexuality but decided it was a good opportunity to make a point about the importance of being who you are.

He says either way he's "still fabulous."

Fleming says students at the prom were supportive and erupted in cheers when he won.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-TbFxCTE4&feature=player_embedded
That's absurd...Gender labeling is discrimination? ROFL...so now we can just call each other "it" instead of "She" or "Him"?

Our nation is really messed up

Praxeas
05-29-2014, 04:06 PM
Paul said there was no good thing in the flesh. If genetic, it only proves that the flesh is predisposed to various sinful proclivities. It would also illustrate the battle between one's spirit and the flesh. However, the Jesus I serve is lavish in regards to His grace, and has the power to heal, and bring victory over, all infirmities of the flesh.

So let science bring on the possibility of genetic connection. It only proves the debased and fallen nature of the flesh. Something we've known and warned about for nearly 2,000 years.
Paul did not say "Genetic". They had no concept of inherited genetic traits.

He was referring to our inherit nature over all, not a physical defect

Aquila
05-29-2014, 04:46 PM
Paul did not say "Genetic". They had no concept of inherited genetic traits.

He was referring to our inherit nature over all, not a physical defect

Of course they had no concept of genetic traits. The term "the flesh" speaks to any aspect of man's carnal nature as it relates to appeasing the physical desires and/or proclivities of our being.

Wouldn't our nature "overall" include any possible genetic aberrations resulting from the fall?

Praxeas
05-29-2014, 11:49 PM
Of course they had no concept of genetic traits. The term "the flesh" speaks to any aspect of man's carnal nature as it relates to appeasing the physical desires and/or proclivities of our being.

Wouldn't our nature "overall" include any possible genetic aberrations resulting from the fall?
Being Gay is not a genetic trait. :-)

Paul did not have in mind DNA when he said flesh...

shazeep
05-30-2014, 06:46 AM
It was never hard for me to grasp how our society makes homosexuals; it is a little harder to see how it is a failure of the saints, tho. I see no shame in admitting that men are the ones most under satanic attack. A prayer for Connecticut, and MR. Fleming...while recognizing that possibly i should be asking him to pray for me.

Luke
05-30-2014, 08:41 AM
It was never hard for me to grasp how our society makes homosexuals; it is a little harder to see how it is a failure of the saints, tho. I see no shame in admitting that men are the ones most under satanic attack. A prayer for Connecticut, and MR. Fleming...while recognizing that possibly i should be asking him to pray for me.

Please explain?

Aquila
05-30-2014, 02:19 PM
Being Gay is not a genetic trait. :-)

Paul did not have in mind DNA when he said flesh...

Various diseases, genetic in nature also, can be classified as infirmities of..."the flesh".

The term "flesh" encompasses all aspects of our canal nature and biology. All sickness and disease in the flesh (including aging itself) are the result of the fall, are they not?

Therefore it's obvious that sin has affected us all the way down to the genetic level.

Aquila
05-30-2014, 02:23 PM
If one gives into desires that are largely hormonal in nature, are they not giving into the flesh?

Are not many hormonal aspects of our biology governed by genetics? Puberty for example?

Aquila
05-30-2014, 02:27 PM
All scientific findings connecting biology and genetics to fallen canal behavior only proves the sinful nature of our flesh.

Fionn mac Cumh
05-30-2014, 04:04 PM
Well being born gay and the bible saying we are all born sinners is the same thing no? Either way, we must be born agian

Aquila
05-30-2014, 06:28 PM
Well being born gay and the bible saying we are all born sinners is the same thing no? Either way, we must be born agian

Amen.

shazeep
05-31-2014, 07:08 AM
Please explain?hmm. just recognizing that he may be closer to God than i am, despite our human definitions.

shazeep
05-31-2014, 07:09 AM
Well being born gay and the bible saying we are all born sinners is the same thing no? Either way, we must be born agianya, what he said. not buying the 'born gay' thing, but nonetheless...

houston
05-31-2014, 08:45 AM
Respectfully, it IS a CHOICE.....NOT genetic.

Right. You chose to be straight.

shazeep
05-31-2014, 05:05 PM
Hmm...that is only fair, from a homosexual perspective. However, nature might argue; and time often changes perspectives here. While possibly difficult to see the forest for the trees here, see how hormones plus societal pressures may combine to leave some no effective choice in the matter.

mfblume
05-31-2014, 11:47 PM
Oh, if eyes were opened to the spirit realm with angels or demons influencing people. There'd be no argument.

shazeep
06-01-2014, 08:03 AM
well, i sure agree; but i think this is why maybe we are forgiven of sins that cause death; so that we may continue, and mature. This prom queen is simply not the same person that he will be in forty years, most likely. He is forgiven also--just not by many of us! He lives in a cause/effect world right now, prolly. And satan has made the definitions of angels and demons into religious ones, having no effect. we judge him for an overt sin here, that admittedly he feels no shame for--fulfilling Scripture--but see that this may very well put him in a place to hear the angels, and recognize the demons, eventually.

FlamingZword
06-01-2014, 09:13 AM
well, i sure agree; but i think this is why maybe we are forgiven of sins that cause death; so that we may continue, and mature. This prom queen is simply not the same person that he will be in forty years, most likely. He is forgiven also--just not by many of us! He lives in a cause/effect world right now, prolly. And satan has made the definitions of angels and demons into religious ones, having no effect. we judge him for an overt sin here, that admittedly he feels no shame for--fulfilling Scripture--but see that this may very well put him in a place to hear the angels, and recognize the demons, eventually.

in the list of sins given by Paul, Homosexuality is pretty much at the end of the line for corruption.
Which means that when society as a whole accepts homosexuality, it pretty much has reached the bottom of the barrel, they have very little to go before hitting bottom.

there is only so much low humans can go.

jfrog
06-01-2014, 10:18 AM
in the list of sins given by Paul, Homosexuality is pretty much at the end of the line for corruption.
Which means that when society as a whole accepts homosexuality, it pretty much has reached the bottom of the barrel, they have very little to go before hitting bottom.

there is only so much low humans can go.

Only so low humans can go? And you believe we are almost there because our society is accepting homosexuals? I can imagine a world 100 times worse than the one I live in. So even with accepting homosexuals, there's still a long way to go. And even the worst I can imagine is not the worst it can be.

FlamingZword
06-01-2014, 12:01 PM
Only so low humans can go? And you believe we are almost there because our society is accepting homosexuals? I can imagine a world 100 times worse than the one I live in. So even with accepting homosexuals, there's still a long way to go. And even the worst I can imagine is not the worst it can be.

Mothers murdering their own children, Check
Fathers raping their own daughters, Check
People killing just for fun, Check
Robbers suing their victims, Check

I mean how much more lower can this society go?

jfrog
06-01-2014, 12:15 PM
Mothers murdering their own children, Check
Fathers raping their own daughters, Check
People killing just for fun, Check
Robbers suing their victims, Check

I mean how much more lower can this society go?

The sins of 1 or 2 doesn't make the whole society corrupt. In fact our society condemns all that behavior. And here I was thinking you would bring an argument that society was corrupt, not that 1 or 2 people in society are corrupt.

FlamingZword
06-01-2014, 12:22 PM
The sins of 1 or 2 doesn't make the whole society corrupt.

Our jails are full to capacity, I would consider that more than 1 or 2 people.
The judges have mandated early release for thousands of criminals because there is no more room for them.

shazeep
06-01-2014, 04:49 PM
in the list of sins given by Paul, Homosexuality is pretty much at the end of the line for corruption.
Which means that when society as a whole accepts homosexuality, it pretty much has reached the bottom of the barrel, they have very little to go before hitting bottom.

there is only so much low humans can go.funny you say this, as i have felt the same. there are no societies to my knowledge that existed much longer after it became accepted. Even in Rome it was at the end, like the last hundred years before the breakup, i think.

Aquila
06-01-2014, 05:53 PM
Right. You chose to be straight.

What bothers me is what you implied. Only a person who could conceive of choosing either way could make such a statement.

Disciple4life
06-01-2014, 05:56 PM
Mothers murdering their own children, Check
Fathers raping their own daughters, Check
People killing just for fun, Check
Robbers suing their victims, Check

I mean how much more lower can this society go?

I really wish you would not have asked that question. :sad :angelsad

Aquila
06-01-2014, 06:11 PM
Our jails are full to capacity, I would consider that more than 1 or 2 people.
The judges have mandated early release for thousands of criminals because there is no more room for them.

Well, America has more criminal laws on the books, making more criminals. Most are in prison over a weed that makes you giggle and get the munchies. Make large sodas a felony and we'd have millions of more criminals.

Disciple4life
06-01-2014, 07:06 PM
Auila,

I know you are all about personally liberty. But I am about common sense liberty. When society uses drugs (legal or not) social service spending goes through the roof.

Parents who are high at worst abuse their children. This could be verbal, emotional, physical or sexually. Parents who are high if nothing are negligent. They let anybody watch their kid. So guess what happens now the neighbor, friend or casual acquaintance watches the kid and they abuse them.

Do I care what people do? Not really. If they want to reject the gospel and destroy the beautiful brain God gave them that is their problem. But stoners have mothers and fathers who struggle with supporting them or using tough love. Often stuff goes missing around the house because Billy had to get a bag of dope and he is too lazy to get a job.
Stoners have partners who are in addiction themselves or go through the same process of being the parent while the stoner keep's acting like a child. Then eventually irresponsible stoners have kids. We all know how they get treated.

Society doesn't need more people checking out. We need more people stepping up to the plate and being responsible and accountable for their own lives.

How do I know this. I have seen it in lives of people I went to school with. People can go on and on that it doesn't hurt anybody but themselves but it just isn't true. Alcoholism, prostitution, porn, drugs and gambling all break up families. The sooner we pull our heads out of the sand and admit it the sooner we can fix the problem.

shazeep
06-01-2014, 07:27 PM
people who smoke weed yell at their kids more? you think? hmm.

Disciple4life
06-01-2014, 07:34 PM
If everybody loves hippies so much let them come stay at your house. Let them mooch off of you for awhile and then see how you feel about the drug issues.

houston
06-01-2014, 08:19 PM
What bothers me is what you implied. Only a person who could conceive of choosing either way could make such a statement.

Straight people never made the choice to be straight.

Gays... They chose to be rejected by God, religion, and society.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

Abiding Now
06-01-2014, 09:26 PM
http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/connecticut-high-schooler-makes-history-by-becoming-schools-first-gay-male-prom-queen__oPt.jpg





That's one more SICK puppy. :vomit

Aquila
06-01-2014, 10:12 PM
Auila,

I know you are all about personally liberty. But I am about common sense liberty. When society uses drugs (legal or not) social service spending goes through the roof.

Parents who are high at worst abuse their children. This could be verbal, emotional, physical or sexually. Parents who are high if nothing are negligent. They let anybody watch their kid. So guess what happens now the neighbor, friend or casual acquaintance watches the kid and they abuse them.

Do I care what people do? Not really. If they want to reject the gospel and destroy the beautiful brain God gave them that is their problem. But stoners have mothers and fathers who struggle with supporting them or using tough love. Often stuff goes missing around the house because Billy had to get a bag of dope and he is too lazy hhnto get a job.
Stoners have partners who are in addiction themselves or go through the same process of being the parent while the stoner keep's acting like a child. Then eventually irresponsible stoners have kids. We all know how they get treated.

Society doesn't need more people checking out. We need more people stepping up to the plate and being responsible and accountable for their own lives.

How do I know this. I have seen it in lives of people I went to school with. People can go on and on that it doesn't hurt anybody but themselves but it just isn't true. Alcoholism, prostitution, porn, drugs and gambling all break up families. The sooner we pull our heads out of the sand and admit it the sooner we can fix the problem.

I think you misunderstand my position. Imagine if all the resources we put into drug law enforcement, incarceration, etc. on rehab programs. In my mind, it's a public health issue, not something worth ruining millions of lives and making generation after generation of criminals. But that's my opinion.

shazeep
06-02-2014, 06:05 AM
If everybody loves hippies so much let them come stay at your house. Let them mooch off of you for awhile and then see how you feel about the drug issues.:lol i know lots of pot smokers who are not hippies, tho...

shazeep
06-02-2014, 06:06 AM
Straight people never made the choice to be straight.

Gays... They chose to be rejected by God, religion, and society.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.:lol touche`

shazeep
06-02-2014, 06:08 AM
That's one more SICK puppy. :vomitAnd yet see that God chooses the rejected.

Disciple4life
06-02-2014, 01:57 PM
I think you misunderstand my position. Imagine if all the resources we put into drug law enforcement, incarceration, etc. on rehab programs. In my mind, it's a public health issue, not something worth ruining millions of lives and making generation after generation of criminals. But that's my opinion.

It is a public health issue. That why I think we need real world solutions. We might agree on some things.

The drug war is not working. Yet we keep throwing money at the problem. The DEA needs to be held accountable for their track record. We do this all the time in government we throw money at a problem with out any accountability. The agency realizes the more they screw up the more money will be sent to them.

Many people think a small government is the way to go. I agree. Less bureaucracy, less waste. But I don't want a smaller government just to say I fixed the problem.
I want a smaller government that is extremely efficient.
How does this fix the drug problem? Sure maybe we have social programs that keep kids from trying/doing drugs and counseling and rehabilitation for all citizens. We will pay less in the long run and have a healthier happier society.

Auila, Sorry if I took you the wrong way.

Disciple4life
06-02-2014, 02:06 PM
:lol i know lots of pot smokers who are not hippies, tho...

Most pot smokers that I have met have a very, very laid back personality. They get something done, just they will start on it later. Later turns in to tomorrow or the day after that. So hygiene many times gets put off. Not all the time, but a lot of the time.

Most pot smokers have looser morals sexually. If they can sleep around, they will. Not all the time, but a lot of the time.

Most pot smokers are very much in support of the peace movement. (I am also a supporter of much less intervention in the world but I am not a hippie)
Not all the time, but a lot of the time.

So I think there are good reason to consider pot smokers "hippies".
Oh and a lot of pot smokers were raised by hippies.
Regardless of what people think, that is my name for pot smokers "Dirty Hippies"!

Fionn mac Cumh
06-02-2014, 02:42 PM
I am a pot smoker and a third generation UPCer. Am I lost? Serious question.

Disciple4life
06-02-2014, 02:52 PM
I am a pot smoker and a third generation UPCer. Am I lost? Serious question.

I am not your judge. You have to give an account for your life.

If I see you in Heaven I will be happy you are there. If you see me in Heaven I hope you are happy I am there.

houston
06-02-2014, 03:59 PM
I am a pot smoker and a third generation UPCer. Am I lost? Serious question.

Drunkards and sorcerers will not enter the kingdom!

Fionn mac Cumh
06-02-2014, 04:37 PM
Drunkards and sorcerers will not enter the kingdom!

I know. Thats why I dont drink or play dungeons and dragons.

"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."

So I can eat it and still get high right?

shazeep
06-02-2014, 07:48 PM
well, our gov seems to have gone waaay out of its way to reinforce the notion that pot is bad, mmmkay--reefer madness, et al--and emerging wisdom has it curing cancer, so...you decide. my take is that it's prolly better to eat than smoke, and while 'getting high' might be abusing it, it's good for what ails ya.

Aquila
06-03-2014, 02:04 AM
I am a pot smoker and a third generation UPCer. Am I lost? Serious question.

I think you'll eat more than your fair at the marriage supper my brother. Lol

Abiding Now
06-07-2014, 08:47 PM
And yet see that God chooses the rejected.

When the "rejected" repent.

shazeep
06-08-2014, 07:17 AM
seems to have more to do with humility--but perhaps that's the same concept in a different frame?

AR Pastor
06-10-2014, 04:19 PM
SICK

shazeep
06-10-2014, 05:04 PM
no sicker than your judgement of him, "pastor." have a nice day.

FlamingZword
06-10-2014, 05:07 PM
no sicker than your judgement of him, "pastor." have a nice day.

There is nothing judgmental about saying something is sick, if it truly is sick.

and this person is definitely sick and needs spiritual healing.
God has already decreed such behavior an abomination.

Abiding Now
06-10-2014, 06:41 PM
There is nothing judgmental about saying something is sick, if it truly is sick.

and this person is definitely sick and needs spiritual healing.
God has already decreed such behavior an abomination.

:thumbsup

AR Pastor
06-10-2014, 06:59 PM
There is nothing judgmental about saying something is sick, if it truly is sick.

and this person is definitely sick and needs spiritual healing.
God has already decreed such behavior an abomination.

Thank you.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 05:52 AM
it is judgement, and gratuitous, at best. understand that i do not disagree with you, but this speaks to ones 'focus'--where their attention is placed. the attention here is upon pointing out someone else's sin, rather than illuminating their good points--the kid is obviously quite popular. And sure, it might be argued that it is 'worldly popularity,' but even homosexuals with a bad attitude are shunned. Would i let my kid go to that school? Not on your life. But, do i feel more justified pointing at some 18 year old brought up in your (if your kids go to those schools...) school system? C'mon. We, the citizens, made that guy! :(

shazeep
06-11-2014, 06:19 AM
Understand You are condemned by your words.
How 'bout we discuss his accomplishments, if we must discuss him at all; personally i see the huge mountain he has climbed, and i am impressed. Is the 'prom queen' thing detestable to you? Yes, we are detestable. But my fear is that he is forgiven, whereas we might not be--he has an excuse, and we do not.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 10:04 AM
"once you awaken, you will have no interest in judging those who are asleep."
(yikes, the new agers are lapping us)
http://i.imgur.com/ANfhysU.jpg

AR Pastor
06-11-2014, 10:08 AM
The problem these days is people except any and everything and will not stand up against sin. This type of thing is wrong and sick.

jfrog
06-11-2014, 10:31 AM
The problem these days is people except any and everything and will not stand up against sin. This type of thing is wrong and sick.

I actually think it's hilarious. The trying to make fun of the gay kid by putting him down as prom queen kinda backfired.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 11:25 AM
The problem these days is people except any and everything and will not stand up against sin. This type of thing is wrong and sick.Well, like i said, "pastor," he has an excuse--what's yours? And btw, where is that verse you are following that describes Christ telling you to point out other's sin? Because i got one for you that describes how this child will be forgiven, while you will not--need i repeat it to you? Or will it be your first hearing of it?

Now I'll grant you that the OP is heinous--i certainly wouldn't allow it--but that is not the point. The Lord rebuke you.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 11:28 AM
I actually think it's hilarious. The trying to make fun of the gay kid by putting him down as prom queen kinda backfired.i agree--sad, but then funny. This is the unseen fruit of the doctrine of Original Sin, that a man would be proud to be a 'queen;' and the responsibility lies squarely on our church leaders, imo. Heinous.

AR Pastor
06-11-2014, 11:30 AM
Well, like i said, "pastor," he has an excuse--what's yours? And btw, where is that verse you are following that describes Christ telling you to point out other's sin? Because i got one for you that describes how this child will be forgiven, while you will not--need i repeat it to you? Or will it be your first hearing of it?

Now I'll grant you that the OP is heinous--i certainly wouldn't allow it--but that is not the point. The Lord rebuke you.

Really?

So a preacher is not suppose to call out and preach against sin.

Has this pervert repented and ask God for forgiveness?

If not he is still in his sin and according to holy rite the thing he is in is called an abomination.

I didn't not come hereto argue and will not respond any more.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 11:36 AM
You nailed it--a preacher is not supposed to call out and preach against sin. You have been programmed, and deceived. You are called to demonstrate (and shepherd) "Life, more abundantly."

Have you repented and asked God to forgive you of your sin? Like i said, i got Scripture for mine--what will you tell God?

AR Pastor
06-11-2014, 11:39 AM
You nailed it--a preacher is not supposed to call out and preach against sin. You have been programmed, and deceived. You are called to demonstrate (and shepherd) "Life, more abundantly."

Have you repented and asked God to forgive you of your sin? Like i said, i got Scripture for mine--what will you tell God?

I strongly disagree.

A pastor is a watchman on the wall. We are to call out and preach against sin. We are to lead people to Christ and teach them His ways and to cry out against the evils of this world.

Good day.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 12:02 PM
I strongly disagree.

A pastor is a watchman on the wall. We are to call out and preach against sin. We are to lead people to Christ and teach them His ways and to cry out against the evils of this world.

Good day.
i grew up believing that, too, pastor--but i got wise, and i pray that you do, too. After all, you have a flock, i assume. You run an 'affiliated' church, no doubt, and signed a 'pledge,' or some type of promise to adhere to some (dead) list of man-made doctrines--in good faith, i'm sure. See that satan runs the world, and all of that is right there in it. We have plenty of finger-pointers already, ty--accusers. See how the homosexual boy (rejected) is teaching Christ to us?

you are taught to 'lead people to Christ' in fear, and nowhere in Scripture are you called to cry out against any evil--exactly the opposite. supercede evil with love. peace to you.

Reader
06-11-2014, 03:30 PM
A pastor is a watchman on the wall. We are to call out and preach against sin. We are to lead people to Christ and teach them His ways and to cry out against the evils of this world.

Show where preachers calling people derogatory names is part of this. One can speak of sin and never once have to call people names. How is that speaking the truth in love?

AR Pastor
06-11-2014, 03:36 PM
What this guy is doing is perverted. There is nothing wrong with calling it what it is. TO call an adulatory and adultery is not be derogatory. It is just stating a fact. To call a thief a thief is not being hateful just calling it like it is.

I will call them a pervert. I do not use names like queer and fag in the pulpit as I deem the inappropriate.

But remember the Word of God uses terms like whore and whoremonger. DO you deem these as derogatory?

I for one am tired of this politely correctness stuff.

Call a spade a spade.

Now have a blessed evening.

Reader
06-11-2014, 04:13 PM
For me it has not one thing to do with being politically correct. I do not care about that.

It is the perception you leave with unbelievers that Christianity is a hateful thing. It pushes people away from God. Let your speech be always with grace. Yes, God hates sin. Yes, we can call sin to be sin. Yet Jesus died for the sinner, for every single ugly sin imaginable and ever committed. Instead of them hearing you or anyone call them perverts should they not instead hear you proclaiming Christ and him crucified, that can take away all sin?

They hear enough hate sounding talk from groups such as that Topeka Kansas church.

shazeep
06-11-2014, 06:11 PM
amen. it reveals the heart. i am no less immune to going there at times myself, but i am increasingly seeing how unGodly it is. It might--possibly--be correct in some certain situation; say where one is being cornered or something...but even then, there is surely a graceful out, and calling a spade a spade is not it. this is why i would not allow the thread--what could possibly be edifying about it?

Aquila
06-13-2014, 06:50 AM
I just feel funny heavily criticizing a confused teenager. He'll probably one day look back at all this with embarrassment.

shazeep
06-13-2014, 09:04 AM
amen. it is our place to--surprise!--encourage him. let satan do the accusing; and God do the judging.

Azzan
06-13-2014, 09:12 AM
I just feel funny heavily criticizing a confused teenager. He'll probably one day look back at all this with embarrassment.

Maybe. Maybe not.

shazeep
06-13-2014, 10:43 AM
exactly--so by all means, let us not be the ones to harden his heart. If that is even possible, as frankly his heart seems to be fine, comparatively speaking.

Abiding Now
06-13-2014, 12:47 PM
Would you want the little sissy to be best friends and have sleep overs with your 14 year old son? How about baby sitting your 5 year old grandson?

shazeep
06-13-2014, 02:54 PM
Would you want the little sissy to be best friends and have sleep overs with your 14 year old son? How about baby sitting your 5 year old grandson?1) we made the little sissy
2) i know this is hard to grasp, perhaps, but see how calling him names just exacerbates the problem? see #1
3) i have no kids, so should let an enlightened Christian parent answer; but i would hope that the answer was a 'supervised yes.'

Aquila
06-13-2014, 02:56 PM
Would you want the little sissy to be best friends and have sleep overs with your 14 year old son? How about baby sitting your 5 year old grandson?

Statistically speaking, most instances of abuse are perpetrated by a family member or close friend of the family who is presumed to be straight for all intents and purposes.

Aquila
06-13-2014, 02:58 PM
He's just a kid.

As an adult... I feel creepy calling him names. He needs a big brother in us... not a judge. His life really hasn't even started yet. Don't snuff him out before he even learns to really walk in this big world on his own.

shazeep
06-13-2014, 02:59 PM
hmm. turns out the love of my life is a lesbian; her father, a church deacon, sexually abused her...

Abiding Now
06-13-2014, 03:04 PM
1) we made the little sissy
2) i know this is hard to grasp, perhaps, but see how calling him names just exacerbates the problem? see #1
3) i have no kids, so should let an enlightened Christian parent answer; but i would hope that the answer was a 'supervised yes.'

Excuse me, you must have a mouse in your pocket, because you sure aren't talking to me. I only accept failures and successes of my own kids, not some stranger.

shazeep
06-13-2014, 03:52 PM
Excuse me, you must have a mouse in your pocket, because you sure aren't talking to me. I only accept failures and successes of my own kids, not some stranger.sorry, but i see that in some way you (and i) made him--when you called him a sissy. weird, huh. completely your fault. sorry 'bout that.