New Forum Name

[houston]

I think the forum should be named X-apo.com

[houston]

I could recruit some with a reformed bg and rename the forum

NewCalvinismForum.com

[MissBrattified]

It wouldn't be accurate. There are a lot of members here who are Apostolic. :)

[Reader]

Current and former apostolics with some trinitarians, mormons, atheists and agnostics would fit better. LOL

[houston]

It wouldn't be accurate. There are a lot of members here who are Apostolic. :)

I don't know any here that teach the Apostles doctrine.

[Miss Scarlett]

It wouldn't be accurate. There are a lot of members here who are Apostolic. :)

I don't know any here that teach the Apostles doctrine.

Aye :thumbsup Count me as one of the holiness apostolics. :nod

[mfblume]

I'd flat-out kick some folks off here. But that's me. lol

[jfrog]

I'd flat-out kick some folks off here. But that's me. lol

Would I be first?

[shazeep]

I'd flat-out kick some folks off here. But that's me. lolI think trouble makers like you are good for candor on a forum like this! :rofl

[shazeep]

Current and former apostolics with some trinitarians, mormons, atheists and agnostics would fit better. LOLApostolic and Beyond. and Behind :lol

[shag]

I'd flat-out kick some folks off here. But that's me. lol

I'd beat u too it.

[Reader]

Apostolic and Beyond. and Behind :lol

I like the apostolic and beyond name! :highfive

[Praxeas]

WhinersFriendForum

IhateUPCersForum

IamAFragileWreckDueToTheUPCForum

TheUPCmadeMeAbitterHatefulPersonForum

[jfrog]

WhinersFriendForum

IhateUPCersForum

IamAFragileWreckDueToTheUPCForum

TheUPCmadeMeAbitterHatefulPersonForum

IKissTheUPC'sButtForum

[Praxeas]

IKissTheUPC'sButtForumrofl:heeheehee

[Praxeas]

IKissTheUPC'sButtForum
But it can't be that. It's becoming the antithesis of that

[jfrog]

But it can't be that. It's becoming the antithesis of that

That's probably because the "Apostolic Friends" name invites all kinds of people. If the name was something a little more clear like UPCLovers then you probably wouldn't find as much dissent here.

[aegsm76]

How about UPCLeftovers...

[kclee4jc]

Was reading over the "forum rules" yesterday. While there certainly may be some here that are Apostolic, I don't think the forum in general is what it presents itself as in its rules and name.

On a side note...I wish there was a truly Apostolic forum where Apostolic Christians fellowshipped and had good discussions, rather than sitting around hating on what is truly APostolic.

[shazeep]

Mmm, you had one--somethingsomething Cafe' or something? There ya go. I love Apostolic people, personally--they seek God. Any religion, being of man, is imperfect and needs examination--but i have known--still know--many very loving Apostolics. God judges the heart.

[Steve Epley]

WhinersFriendForum

IhateUPCersForum

IamAFragileWreckDueToTheUPCForum

TheUPCmadeMeAbitterHatefulPersonForum

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

[MawMaw]

Was reading over the "forum rules" yesterday. While there certainly may be some here that are Apostolic, I don't think the forum in general is what it presents itself as in its rules and name.

On a side note...I wish there was a truly Apostolic forum where Apostolic Christians fellowshipped and had good discussions, rather than sitting around hating on what is truly APostolic.

Me too! :nod

[KeptByTheWord]

Mmm, you had one--somethingsomething Cafe' or something? There ya go. I love Apostolic people, personally--they seek God. Any religion, being of man, is imperfect and needs examination--but i have known--still know--many very loving Apostolics. God judges the heart.

:highfive

[AR Pastor]

WhinersFriendForum

IhateUPCersForum

IamAFragileWreckDueToTheUPCForum

TheUPCmadeMeAbitterHatefulPersonForum

:highfive

[FlamingZword]

Was reading over the "forum rules" yesterday. While there certainly may be some here that are Apostolic, I don't think the forum in general is what it presents itself as in its rules and name.

On a side note...I wish there was a truly Apostolic forum where Apostolic Christians fellowshipped and had good discussions, rather than sitting around hating on what is truly APostolic.

There were Forums that were more apostolic, but the ultra conservative killed them.

The ultra conservatives banned and kicked out anyone who slightly dared to question an Apostolic Doctrine. Pretty soon no one visited those forums and they died.

This forum survived because it allowed the discussion and debate of Apostolic Doctrines.
Of course to the Ultra conservative any discussion of doctrine is considered anathema.

This is a truly apostolic forum, for in the Trinitarian forums I have been kicked out for mentioning baptism in the name of Jesus.
they considered such baptism as heresy.

[AR Pastor]

Was reading over the "forum rules" yesterday. While there certainly may be some here that are Apostolic, I don't think the forum in general is what it presents itself as in its rules and name.

On a side note...I wish there was a truly Apostolic forum where Apostolic Christians fellowshipped and had good discussions, rather than sitting around hating on what is truly APostolic.

I know I expected something different.

I don't understand why there are those here who aren't Apostolic. I can understand those who may differ on some things, but not the basics

[jfrog]

I know I expected something different.

I don't understand why there are those here who aren't Apostolic. I can understand those who may differ on some things, but not the basics

I think most that disagree on what you call the basics were once apostolic and believed in them.

[Disciple4life]

What about

Apostolic Friends and their Friends Forum.

[Miss Scarlett]

Was reading over the "forum rules" yesterday. While there certainly may be some here that are Apostolic, I don't think the forum in general is what it presents itself as in its rules and name.

On a side note...I wish there was a truly Apostolic forum where Apostolic Christians fellowshipped and had good discussions, rather than sitting around hating on what is truly APostolic.

Me too! :nod

Amen. I was just sick when GNC went down without notice. We had issues there, but not nearly as much as on AFF. I felt much more in place there.
If I was computer savvy, I would start just such a forum, but I don't have the knowledge.

[FlamingZword]

Amen. I was just sick when GNC went down without notice. We had issues there, but not nearly as much as on AFF. I felt much more in place there.
If I was computer savvy, I would start just such a forum, but I don't have the knowledge.

The GNC forum begun to die when the Ultra conservatives took over and they started killing it.

The Ultra con hate any questioning or debate, they are closed minded.

They expect the people to check their brain at the door, sit in a pew, pay tithes and just say Amen; anything beyond that they hate with a passion.

[Miss Scarlett]

The GNC forum begun to die when the Ultra conservatives took over and they started killing it.

The Ultra con hate any questioning or debate, they are closed minded.

They expect the people to check their brain at the door, sit in a pew, pay tithes and just say Amen; anything beyond that they hate with a passion.

And since you are so critical of Conservatives, the ultra liberal hate is what I noticed more. Y'all were so critical of us, for believing in and sticking to a standard of Holiness, which was our choice to make. I think it was mostly a conservative forum before the some became more liberal.

[Reader]

I don't understand why there are those here who aren't Apostolic. I can understand those who may differ on some things, but not the basics

While there is more than one reason, you would need to go back to Faithchild Forum, which the late Jim Yohe of the UPC initiated. AFF came about after that folded along with two (or more) other forums.

Yohe allowed all to participate and would feature monthly articles on various subjects and allowed for differing views. Many got to know one another way back then and have continued here, despite differences.

In addition, the rules allow for non-apostolics to join in.

[FlamingZword]

And since you are so critical of Conservatives, the ultra liberal hate is what I noticed more. Y'all were so critical of us, for believing in and sticking to a standard of Holiness, which was our choice to make. I think it was mostly a conservative forum before the some became more liberal.

Standard of Holiness?
Actually man made rules that are nowhere in the Bible, but hey that is your choice.

We preach the Bible and only the Bible without extra man made rules, where is the hate in that? That is what we are sticking to.

we refuse to add to the word of God, that is why the ultra con are so critical of us.

Actually God himself prohibited adding to his word, but I guess the Ultra con know better than God.

[AR Pastor]

And since you are so critical of Conservatives, the ultra liberal hate is what I noticed more. Y'all were so critical of us, for believing in and sticking to a standard of Holiness, which was our choice to make. I think it was mostly a conservative forum before the some became more liberal.

:thumbsup

[Praxeas]

That's probably because the "Apostolic Friends" name invites all kinds of people. If the name was something a little more clear like UPCLovers then you probably wouldn't find as much dissent here.
I think they must be confused...it says FRIENDS not ENEMIES

BTW Dissent is ok. Doing it constantly on a board supposed to be Apostolic and Friends get's old. Doing it with an attitude is worse.

[Praxeas]

Was reading over the "forum rules" yesterday. While there certainly may be some here that are Apostolic, I don't think the forum in general is what it presents itself as in its rules and name.

On a side note...I wish there was a truly Apostolic forum where Apostolic Christians fellowshipped and had good discussions, rather than sitting around hating on what is truly APostolic.
Not me. The problem is many of us Apostolics would be unwelcome because we don't agree with someone's standard

[Praxeas]

What about

Apostolic Friends and their Friends Forum.
Or..ApostolicFriendsAndEnemies

[FlamingZword]

Not me. The problem is many of us Apostolics would be unwelcome because we don't agree with someone's standard

I am not sent by God to preach standards.
The Bible says "Preach the word" I am commanded to preach the Bible, the word of God not some standards that are nowhere found in the Bible. why should I waste my time preaching something that is not in the word of God?

The Bible says "Don't add to his words, or he will rebuke you, and you will be shown to be a liar." I guess the ultra con have not read that scripture or the next one "in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men"

[n david]

Apostolic Frenemies,

[FlamingZword]

Apostolic Frenemies,

I am a true Apostolic, but to the Ultra con I am not even saved or a Christian, because I do not teach or believe their man-made standards nonsense.

To them I am become their enemy, because I tell them the truth. (Galatians 4:16) so yes to the ultra con I am a sort of Frenemy.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16)

Did not Paul rebuked Pater for going along with the Pharisees that were in the church, out of fear?
Peter did not believe the Pharisees ideas, but out of fear he was going along.

Paul was not going to be quiet out of a sense of keeping the peace and getting along, he fought those who wanted to add extra rules to the salvation of the believers and I am quite sure he would fight the modern Pharisees of today who want to add extra rules of salvation to the believers.

Paul would have none of that nonsense. he withstood the Pharisees in the church and for that he was reviled. so go ahead and revile me, I am in good company with Paul.

[MawMaw]

And since you are so critical of Conservatives, the ultra liberal hate is what I noticed more. Y'all were so critical of us, for believing in and sticking to a standard of Holiness, which was our choice to make. I think it was mostly a conservative forum before the some became more liberal.

C'mon Miss Scarlett, everybody knows libs are the perfect bunch. :heeheehee

[houston]

Apostolic Frenemies,

Yes! I love it! Apostolic Frenemies Forum.

[aegsm76]

I am a true Apostolic, but to the Ultra con I am not even saved or a Christian, because I do not teach or believe their man-made standards nonsense.

To them I am become their enemy, because I tell them the truth. (Galatians 4:16) so yes to the ultra con I am a sort of Frenemy.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16)

Did not Paul rebuked Pater for going along with the Pharisees that were in the church, out of fear?
Peter did not believe the Pharisees ideas, but out of fear he was going along.

Paul was not going to be quiet out of a sense of keeping the peace and getting along, he fought those who wanted to add extra rules to the salvation of the believers and I am quite sure he would fight the modern Pharisees of today who want to add extra rules of salvation to the believers.

Paul would have none of that nonsense. he withstood the Pharisees in the church and for that he was reviled. so go ahead and revile me, I am in good company with Paul.

I like it invoking the Pauline example!
However, this same Paul told a church to kick out a member.
Would you ever do the same?

[Monterrey]

How about :

The Forum on Apostolic Revival Techniques?

Acronym....


FART

[FlamingZword]

I like it invoking the Pauline example!
However, this same Paul told a church to kick out a member.
Would you ever do the same?

If they are violating a clear Biblical teaching, why not?

and yet we must remember that the church member repented and was later received back.

[Luke]

Yes! I love it! Apostolic Frenemies Forum.

Perfect this way it there is no need to change the initials :yourock:

[shazeep]

ya, i think we have a winna :lol

[MawMaw]

Yes! I love it! Apostolic Frenemies Forum.

Perfect this way it there is no need to change the initials :yourock:

LOL!! :heeheehee

[Miss Scarlett]

And since you are so critical of Conservatives, the ultra liberal hate is what I noticed more. Y'all were so critical of us, for believing in and sticking to a standard of Holiness, which was our choice to make. I think it was mostly a conservative forum before the some became more liberal.

C'mon Miss Scarlett, everybody knows libs are the perfect bunch. :heeheehee

LOL!! :heeheehee

You pretty well hit the nail on the head MawMaw.

[RJR]

To an Apostolic (which I am unashamedly) it is more like the Apostate Friends Forum

[jfrog]

To an Apostolic (which I am unashamedly) it is more like the Apostate Friends Forum

We love you too!

[AR Pastor]

To an Apostolic (which I am unashamedly) it is more like the Apostate Friends Forum

Seems that way sometimes

[ILG]

IKissTheUPC'sButtForum

:heeheehee

[ILG]

IWuzAApostolicWhenIStartedHereButAin'tNoMoreForum.

[OneAccord]

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

[Michael The Disciple]

Apostolic and Beyond. and Behind :lol

Now there is a neat name.

[Tina]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. It just wouldn't be the same around here without the occasional "Y'all need to change the name of this place" thread... I'm going back to the corner now. It's peaceful there. :)

[Dordrecht]

I'd flat-out kick some folks off here. But that's me. lol

:yourock

[Abiding Now]

I am a true Apostolic, but to the Ultra con I am not even saved or a Christian, because I do not teach or believe their man-made standards nonsense.

To them I am become their enemy, because I tell them the truth. (Galatians 4:16) so yes to the ultra con I am a sort of Frenemy.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16)

Did not Paul rebuked Pater for going along with the Pharisees that were in the church, out of fear?
Peter did not believe the Pharisees ideas, but out of fear he was going along.

Paul was not going to be quiet out of a sense of keeping the peace and getting along, he fought those who wanted to add extra rules to the salvation of the believers and I am quite sure he would fight the modern Pharisees of today who want to add extra rules of salvation to the believers.

Paul would have none of that nonsense. he withstood the Pharisees in the church and for that he was reviled. so go ahead and revile me, I am in good company with Paul.

Must be a cold lonely world where you live. I mean, being the ONLY person carrying that heavy burden all by yourself. WOW! :laffatu

[houston]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. It just wouldn't be the same around here without the occasional "Y'all need to change the name of this place" thread... I'm going back to the corner now. It's peaceful there. :)

Oh, sweetie... You're welcome!

[shazeep]

:yourockthe vision i get here is of the guy in the suit pinching the hose shut to prevent the thirsty poor guy from getting a drink of water--unless you take MFBlume's comment the way i did: "I'd flat kick some people off here; but that's ME." :lol

[shazeep]

We love you too!yes, and i withdraw my recommendation to have Blume kicked off the forum! :rofl
Dordt i gotta think about a little more! :)

[shazeep]

To an Apostolic (which I am unashamedly) it is more like the Apostate Friends Forumvalid enough--for joking around; but i ask you holiness types to at least consider that it is the heretics who may give the best insights into spirituality. Every great man of God that you can name was considered a heretic, i think, by most or many of their legalistic, or holiness, contemporaries. Now this would be as opposed to apostates; which, wadr, i just don't see spending much time on a Christian forum. I don't mean for this to imply that the lawyers do not have a place, either...believe it or not, if i had an important 'community' decision to make, i would be seeking a Dordrecht or an Epley to complement my "wingin' it" thing for counsel on the decision.

[Monterrey]

valid enough--for joking around; but i ask you holiness types to at least consider that it is the heretics who may give the best insights into spirituality. Every great man of God that you can name was considered a heretic, i think, by most or many of their legalistic, or holiness, contemporaries. Now this would be as opposed to apostates; which, wadr, i just don't see spending much time on a Christian forum. I don't mean for this to imply that the lawyers do not have a place, either...believe it or not, if i had an important 'community' decision to make, i would be seeking a Dordrecht or an Epley to complement my "wingin' it" thing for counsel on the decision.

In a multitude of counsel there is safety.

It never hurts to ask for input, we still have to make the final decision but it is at least an informative one.

[shazeep]

In a multitude of counsel there is safety.

It never hurts to ask for input, we still have to make the final decision but it is at least an informative one.amen to that--but i didn't realize the name change was actually being considered?

[Tina]

amen to that--but i didn't realize the name change was actually being considered?

It's not.

[Miss Scarlett]

Amen. I was just sick when GNC went down without notice. We had issues there, but not nearly as much as on AFF. I felt much more in place there.
If I was computer savvy, I would start just such a forum, but I don't have the knowledge.

The GNC forum begun to die when the Ultra conservatives took over and they started killing it.

The Ultra con hate any questioning or debate, they are closed minded.

They expect the people to check their brain at the door, sit in a pew, pay tithes and just say Amen; anything beyond that they hate with a passion.

Considering what AFF was in the past, It does appear to be floundering some in recent months. What could be the cause you think FlamingZWord?

[houston]

Floundering? MICHELOB was written over the door of this place!

[OneAccord]

I think a better idea would be for all of us to recognize and respect the fact that this sight was created as an
APOSTOLIC
forum. I don't even remember its original name but, its founder created it (I believe) as a place for Apostolic people to come together and fellowship. In the old days we had fellowship. Yeah, we had disagreements, too. But overall, there was an atmosphere of fellowship. We could talk about water baptism, for example. We disagreed over methods, and "eis" and the nuts and bolts of it all, but we still believed in it. But its not that way now.

Heres my idea. If you don't agree with this sites "statement of faith", well, look around the web, I'm sure you'll find a site more suitable to your tastes. If you're here to bash Apostolic groups and preachers.... well, this ain't the place to do it. Sometimes, I think the best idea would be for a complete housecleaning. Start from scratch. Remove EVERYONE from the members list... and let people rejoin. But be a little more proactive in regulating 1) who joins and 2) what is allowed to be posted. Maybe even read the posts before they are posted. If they don't met the biblical criteria of being wholesome and edifying, send 'em back to the poster for "re-work.

I'd hate to see that. I like the "open door policy". But that only works if those entering will have enough respect to wipe their feet before entering.

[shazeep]

Floundering? MICHELOB was written over the door of this place!:lol mine said 'monster' or something...the energy drink, maybe.

[Miss Scarlett]

Considering what AFF was in the past, It does appear to be floundering some in recent months. What could be the cause you think FlamingZWord?

Floundering? MICHELOB was written over the door of this place!

I thought the word would have been Ichabod.

Samuel 4:21–22). The word Ichabod means literally “inglorious” or “there is no glory,”

[StillStanding]

Enlightened Apostolics Forum

[houston]

I thought the word would have been Ichabod.

Samuel 4:21–22). The word Ichabod means literally “inglorious” or “there is no glory,”

It's a joke. I guess there's no one left that gets it.

[Miss Scarlett]

I thought the word would have been Ichabod.

Samuel 4:21–22). The word Ichabod means literally “inglorious” or “there is no glory,”

It's a joke. I guess there's no one left that gets it.

Is that something to do with Michlow changing username to Micholob? I seem to remember something in the back of my mind.

But~~~~~I wasn't joking.

[houston]

Story goes...

An old lady gave tongues and interpretation. After what was a very lengthy wrath of God interpretation she closed with. "And I will write MICHELOB over the door of this place!"

[MawMaw]

I think a better idea would be for all of us to recognize and respect the fact that this sight was created as an
APOSTOLIC
forum. I don't even remember its original name but, its founder created it (I believe) as a place for Apostolic people to come together and fellowship. In the old days we had fellowship. Yeah, we had disagreements, too. But overall, there was an atmosphere of fellowship. We could talk about water baptism, for example. We disagreed over methods, and "eis" and the nuts and bolts of it all, but we still believed in it. But its not that way now.

Heres my idea. If you don't agree with this sites "statement of faith", well, look around the web, I'm sure you'll find a site more suitable to your tastes. If you're here to bash Apostolic groups and preachers.... well, this ain't the place to do it. Sometimes, I think the best idea would be for a complete housecleaning. Start from scratch. Remove EVERYONE from the members list... and let people rejoin. But be a little more proactive in regulating 1) who joins and 2) what is allowed to be posted. Maybe even read the posts before they are posted. If they don't met the biblical criteria of being wholesome and edifying, send 'em back to the poster for "re-work.

I'd hate to see that. I like the "open door policy". But that only works if those entering will have enough respect to wipe their feet before entering.

I like your idea! :nod

[houston]

Here's an idea. Why don't the two of you restart the GNC.

[MawMaw]

Why don't you pray back through and get the V I C T O R Y.

[shazeep]

arg, w/the rhetoric, already. wadrHere's an idea. Why don't the two of you restart the GNC.:lol touche`

[houston]

Why don't you pray back through and get the V I C T O R Y.

Stupid post of the day!

[shazeep]

ok that's just mean

[Miss Scarlett]

Why don't you pray back through and get the V I C T O R Y.

Stupid post of the day!

MawMaw, I think your post was brilliant.

[shazeep]

hmm, i found the gnc one more pointed...

[Abiding Now]

Why don't you pray back through and get the V I C T O R Y.

:happydance

[AR Pastor]

Why don't you pray back through and get the V I C T O R Y.

:yourock

[AR Pastor]

Apostolic Enemies forum

[AR Pastor]

Backslid Apostolic Friends Forum

[Reader]

Apostolic Enemies forum - Backslid Apostolic Friends Forum

And here YOU are! :heeheehee

[FlamingZword]

Apostolic Enemies forum

Yes there are some Apostolic Enemies here, but that does not mean that everyone in here is an enemy of the Apostolics, otherwise I would not even be allowed to post Acts 2:38

Of course it also depends on how some people define Apostolic.
If Apostolic means "only people who agree with me" then yes this place might seem like a place full of enemies or backsliders.

Since I do not expect every apostolic to agree with me, I have no problem exchanging views with those who disagree with me. I still consider them apostolic, they are just apostolics who disagree with me.

[Reader]

Since I do not expect every apostolic to agree with me, I have no problem exchanging views with those who disagree with me. I still consider them apostolic, they are just apostolics who disagree with me.

I like this.

Apostolics differ in many areas, from exactly how they view the Godhead, to what is said during water baptism, and to the varied standards and how they are or are not enforced. They have differed since the early 1900s.

[John Atkinson]

I think it is fine the way it is.