View Full Version : NE State Sen Compares Police to iSIS, Would Shoot
n david
03-25-2015, 07:28 AM
What a buffoon.
State Sen. Ernie Chambers said during a legislative hearing Friday that you don't have to go halfway around the world to find an ISIS mentality. It can be found in America because police terrorize blacks every day.
"I wouldn't go to Syria, I wouldn't go to Iraq, I wouldn't go to Afghanistan, I wouldn't go to Yemen, I wouldn't go to Tunisia, I wouldn't go to Lebanon, I wouldn't go to Jordan, I would do it right here," Chambers, who is black, said. "Nobody from ISIS ever terrorized us as a people as the police do us daily."
"If I was going to carry a weapon, it wouldn't be against you, it wouldn't be against these people who come here that I might have a dispute with. Mine would be for the police," he said. "And if I carried a gun I'd want to shoot him first and then ask questions later, like they say the cop ought to do."
This guy should be barred from entering the Unicameral.
Source Link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/25/nebraska-senator-compares-police-to-isis-suggests-hed-shoot-cop/?intcmp=latestnews)
Who puts these clowns into office?
Livelystone
03-25-2015, 08:26 AM
The guy is way out of line, especially for being a "lawmaker".
On the other hand if all cops treated everyone in the same manner as many of them treat blacks, the situation would change simply because it would no longer be tolerated.
I know a man who was present for a conversation between "cops" when they were laughing while telling perp kill stories....just saying
Jito463
03-25-2015, 08:27 AM
Oh, yes. Sen. Chambers...we often wonder that ourselves (how he keeps getting re-elected, that is). Most of us consider him a complete loon, but somehow his constituents keep voting him back in. He was actually forced to step down, due to term limitations, but somehow he found a way around them and is back in the state senate again.
Jermyn Davidson
03-25-2015, 09:05 AM
The guy is way out of line, especially for being a "lawmaker".
On the other hand if all cops treated everyone in the same manner as many of them treat blacks, the situation would change simply because it would no longer be tolerated.
I know a man who was present for a conversation between "cops" when they were laughing while telling perp kill stories....just saying
You really think so?
Livelystone
03-26-2015, 07:28 AM
You really think so?
Yes I do
I do not like it when persons play a race card, however, the truth is if certain black leaders had not brought issues to light causing riots in the last century to explode, todays cops would still be enforcing separate water fountains for blacks still forced to ride in the back of the bus
shazeep
03-26-2015, 08:06 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/25/nebraska-senator-compares-police-to-isis-suggests-hed-shoot-cop/?intcmp=latestnews
i don't like his conclusions, but thank God the cop situation is reaching this level, at least. You are like 50 or 60 times more likely to die from a cop than from a terrorist. Hope this guy runs for potus!
n david
03-26-2015, 08:22 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/25/nebraska-senator-compares-police-to-isis-suggests-hed-shoot-cop/?intcmp=latestnews
i don't like his conclusions, but thank God the cop situation is reaching this level, at least. You are like 50 or 60 times more likely to die from a cop than from a terrorist. Hope this guy runs for potus!
I'm not surprised. But this moron won't be running for POTUS. The sole reason he's been elected and re-elected to the Unicameral is because he's from Omaha's 11th, which is black. He tried running for Congress years ago and only received 0.4% of the votes. He's a joke and most people from there know it.
He's like Al Sharpton, except in jeans and a t-shirt.
Fionn mac Cumh
03-26-2015, 09:20 AM
More people have died at the hands of law enforcement than terrorists.
n david
03-26-2015, 09:55 AM
More people have died at the hands of law enforcement than terrorists.
Because OKC and 9/11 happened to empty buildings, right?
I've seen this claim posted several times. Problem is it is not true. OKC, 9/11, Khobar Towers and Beirut barracks and airline bombings have taken far more innocent lives than those at the hands of LEOs.
shazeep
03-26-2015, 10:25 AM
hmm, i think a couple of those are being viewed now as false flags, and not terrorist ops. Of course i agree with you on your assessment of the guy--minus the name-calling, of course--but it is for that reason that i think he should run for potus, understand.
Fionn mac Cumh
03-26-2015, 10:44 AM
Because OKC and 9/11 happened to empty buildings, right?
I've seen this claim posted several times. Problem is it is not true. OKC, 9/11, Khobar Towers and Beirut barracks and airline bombings have taken far more innocent lives than those at the hands of LEOs.
I challenge you to do your research friend. While I admit that the OKC and 9/11 ect.. attacks resulted in 100% innocent lives lost and cops deaths are not 100% innocent, a lot of those killed by cops shouldnt have.
n david
03-26-2015, 11:02 AM
I challenge you to do your research friend. While I admit that the OKC and 9/11 ect.. attacks resulted in 100% innocent lives lost and cops deaths are not 100% innocent, a lot of those killed by cops shouldnt have.
I don't need to do research, I'm not the one making the claim that more innocent lives have been lost at the hands of police than terrorists. It has absolutely no supporting evidence with which to back it.
WTC/Pentagon/PA - 2,977 deaths
Beirut Bombing - 241 deaths
PanAm 103 - 189 deaths
OKC - 168 deaths
Khobar Towers - 19 deaths
1993 WTC - 6 deaths
3,600 innocent Americans were killed by terrorists in these bombings. There are nowhere near to 3,600 innocent Americans which have been killed by police officers.
n david
03-26-2015, 11:07 AM
Perhaps instead of threatening to shoot cops and falsely claiming they kill more innocent people than terrorist -- State Senator Chambers should focus on his own city, which has the highest percentage of black on black homicides compared to the rest of the US.
Instead of making threats, he should try to do something to help the people who have elected him to the Unicameral since 1970.
Some of the violence in Nebraska is found in the predominantly black neighborhoods of northern and northeastern Omaha, an area rife with the familiar urban ills of poverty, gang activity, high unemployment and substandard housing conditions. "Northeast Omaha has the highest level of concentrated poverty in the state; it has the highest concentration of unemployment," Indeed, unemployment in north Omaha is estimated at 25 percent, in stark contrast to a 4 percent figure for the state (one of the lowest jobless rates in the country).
Chamber's district covers that area of Omaha.
shazeep
03-26-2015, 12:05 PM
ok, let's admit that this is "beneath the news." guys like this would not have gotten any air, pre-web. I suspect the whole point of the story is for it to be repeated thoughtlessly, wadr, and thereby stoke some flames.
n david
03-26-2015, 12:56 PM
ok, let's admit that this is "beneath the news." guys like this would not have gotten any air, pre-web. I suspect the whole point of the story is for it to be repeated thoughtlessly, wadr, and thereby stoke some flames.
Pre-web he's made the local and state news with his rhetoric in the past. He's notorious for making absurd and inflammatory comments. Only difference this time is he's advocated violence with these remarks.
n david
03-26-2015, 01:02 PM
Ernie believes in white privilege and that only whites are racist.
I have nothing but disdain and and contempt for Chambers, which comes from years of his stunts and stupidity.
What's sad is he's done nothing to help the people who have voted him to the office. He's a Al Sharpton-like celebrity in his district, but he's done nothing.
Praxeas
03-27-2015, 01:32 AM
More people have died at the hands of law enforcement than terrorists.
Then they need to kill more terrorists ....
True, with less terrorists, the world would be a better place.
shazeep
03-27-2015, 07:04 AM
then you don't even know who the real terrorists are, i guess. These comments indicate that you have been taken in by the rhetoric. Examine who is oppressing you right now, this minute, and then tell me who it is you are so anxious to go murder.
See that 'terrorists' is just a buzz-word for random law-breaker, when we have our own law-breakers of colossal proportions, plundering you uninhibited, right now. There is a strong chance, since these also control what you watch, that those you would define as "terrorists" actually work for them, to keep you distracted.
shazeep
03-27-2015, 07:12 AM
here you go, take a look at this page. i have not researched this at all, and it was just the first incident that popped into my head. Don't miss the link titled "Absolute Proof..." two below "Images." and of course view skeptically; i know of no absolute proof.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=boston+bombing+hoax
ok and i'm not interested in any knee-jerk responses to this; the point is that you do not know, and neither do i.
Praxeas
03-28-2015, 12:29 AM
here you go, take a look at this page. i have not researched this at all, and it was just the first incident that popped into my head. Don't miss the link titled "Absolute Proof..." two below "Images." and of course view skeptically; i know of no absolute proof.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=boston+bombing+hoax
ok and i'm not interested in any knee-jerk responses to this; the point is that you do not know, and neither do i.
Why dont you go track down the so called victims and ask them?
Think about how many people had to be in on the conspiracy. Nearly every runner in the marathon too.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Boston_Marathon_Bombings_-_Images
shazeep
03-28-2015, 02:04 AM
ya, not saying i buy it; but really amazing, as it turns out, how few would need to be in on it. The "bombers" could be like Hinckly's or whatever, patsies recruited for their desire to do it, anyway. So they don't have to be in on it. You need a couple of actors, maybe amputees in this case, if you want to minimize loss of life--which is mostly why i am skeptical about this one, as the types that would do this generally don't care about lives, and operate with confidence in their ability to avoid discovery of their involvement.
But maybe that didn't have that much confidence; were not members of the elite elite, etc. Dunno. But i do know what an IED full of ball bearings damage looks like, and it isn't that, for sure. Even the explosion is suspicious, a virtual flash/bang. Look at the newspaper vending machine--it should be swiss cheesed, and displaced 20-30 feet. Everything about the incident reeks.
And i guess others have been trying to track down the victims? And there were, what, 3 or 4 fatalities. i just don't have time for it, don't want it to consume my life for the next 3 months, lol. Especially when no definite conclusions will most likely be reached. The point is to try to see what a huge coup could be accomplished by people who don't think like we do; people who have read The Prince, and keep a copy on their nightstand.
shazeep
03-28-2015, 02:21 AM
I've seen this claim posted several times. Problem is it is not true. OKC, 9/11, Khobar Towers and Beirut barracks and airline bombings have taken far more innocent lives than those at the hands of LEOs.apparently not--pick your link. There are some qualifications, depending upon which link you pick; but i guess this is not a new phenom, and has been tracked for a while.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=more%20likely%20killed%20by%20police%20than%20 terrorist&es_th=1
n david
03-28-2015, 09:45 AM
apparently not--pick your link. There are some qualifications, depending upon which link you pick; but i guess this is not a new phenom, and has been tracked for a while.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=more%20likely%20killed%20by%20police%20than%20 terrorist&es_th=1
C'mon, Shazy. Did you read those search results? "More likely to" does not equal actual deaths by. You're misleading with this post.
That's a conjecture based solely on the fact that, as we believe, there are more cops than terrorists living among us.
Again, the claim is actual deaths, not "more likely to" scenarios. The claim was made that more innocent people have been killed by police than terrorists. It's not true.
shazeep
03-28-2015, 10:36 AM
ah; didn't look at it that way, hmm
shazeep
03-28-2015, 04:31 PM
"The revised estimates put the annual number of people killed by cops at an average of 928 per year over the past eight years; a conservative estimate. This information contrasts with the 461 reported killed by police by the FBI for 2013, a difference of almost 450 killings or nearly 50 percent.
When looking at terrorism, the U.S. Department of State reports that only 16 non-military U.S. citizens were killed worldwide as a result of terrorism in 2013, the most recent year data there was available data."
but i guess it depends upon how you process the data, as you pointed out. OK was domestic, not terrorist, i guess.
shazeep
07-11-2015, 03:26 PM
Why dont you go track down the so called victims and ask them?
Think about how many people had to be in on the conspiracy. Nearly every runner in the marathon too.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Boston_Marathon_Bombings_-_Imagesthen again, maybe not http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/05/01/hollywood-producer-nathan-folks-says-boston-bombings-a-false-flag/
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