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TJJJ
06-23-2015, 01:02 PM
Everyone is blaming it on the rebel flag.

Amazon will not be selling the flag any more so no more mass shootings in the south.

Thank goodness that is taken care of. My mind is at rest.

n david
06-23-2015, 01:04 PM
Everyone is blaming it on the rebel flag.

Amazon will not be selling the flag any more so no more mass shootings in the south.

Thank goodness that is taken care of. My mind is at rest.
AND....Walmart will be pulling all merchandise with the rebel flag from all its stores.

Whew!

Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2015, 01:16 PM
Well they're just losing money-making opportunities!

Everyone KNOWS the confederate flag is an emblem of love, acceptance, and unity!

I just don't understand!

n david
06-23-2015, 01:27 PM
Well they're just losing money-making opportunities!

Everyone KNOWS the confederate flag is an emblem of love, acceptance, and unity!

I just don't understand!
:lol

Bowas
06-23-2015, 01:35 PM
I noticed this psychopath killer was wearing a "Golds Gym" shirt. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

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n david
06-23-2015, 01:38 PM
I noticed this psychopath killer was wearing a "Golds Gym" shirt. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

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He's lying? :lol That kid hasn't been to Gold's Gym!

Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2015, 02:38 PM
Bowas,
Your attempt to link the two fail because Gold's Gym's reputation is already established and it would take a lot of racist, mass murderers wearing Gold's Gym shirts to make the connection stick.

The confederate flag already has had A LOT of racist, hateful and violent people associated with it for years and years.

Dylann Roof is just the latest to repeat the historical narrative associated with the confederate flag.

n david
06-23-2015, 02:49 PM
Bowas,
Your attempt to link the two fail because Gold's Gym's reputation is already established and it would take a lot of racist, mass murderers wearing Gold's Gym shirts to make the connection stick.

The confederate flag already has had A LOT of racist, hateful and violent people associated with it for years and years.

Dylann Roof is just the latest to repeat the historical narrative associated with the confederate flag.
You're missing the issue. The issue isn't the flag. The flag is a distraction.

The issue is Roof was on the same type of mood-altering medication which every single other mass shooter has been taking.

But Pharma likes that you're more upset about the dumb flag than its murder meds.

Bowas
06-23-2015, 03:05 PM
You're missing the issue. The issue isn't the flag. The flag is a distraction.

The issue is Roof was on the same type of mood-altering medication which every single other mass shooter has been taking.

But Pharma likes that you're more upset about the dumb flag than its murder meds.

Precisely my point!
One more thing I had been curious about and have now confirmed, but nearly all these types incidences have more than one thing in common. Yes, most are on these types drugs but also they come from broken homes. Until we fix the moral issues, all the gun control in the world will never fix anything except to control the general population in the name of security and safety.

Dylann Roof’s teenage years marked by father’s bitter divorce.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/06/22/dylann-roofs-teenage-years-marked-by-fathers-bitter-divorce/

Praxeas
06-23-2015, 04:19 PM
Everyone is blaming it on the rebel flag.

Amazon will not be selling the flag any more so no more mass shootings in the south.

Thank goodness that is taken care of. My mind is at rest.
Nobody...NOBODY is blaming it ON the confederate flag. NOBODY. That is an asinine post

Praxeas
06-23-2015, 04:20 PM
You're missing the issue. The issue isn't the flag. The flag is a distraction.

The issue is Roof was on the same type of mood-altering medication which every single other mass shooter has been taking.

But Pharma likes that you're more upset about the dumb flag than its murder meds.
I haven't seen anyone claim that kid murdered blacks because the flag made him do it.

Blacks have for YEARS demanded that flag NOT be raised over the State building.

TJJJ
06-23-2015, 05:03 PM
Gentleman, gentlemen, don't be alarmed or afraid.

Getting rid of the stars and bars is going to help all racism just go away.

Really!

Honest inj..... uh, honest engine.

All those racist rebels are now going to have a change of heart and start loving their darker colored neighbors.

Why didn't we think of this before?

Praxeas
06-23-2015, 05:16 PM
Gentleman, gentlemen, don't be alarmed or afraid.

Getting rid of the stars and bars is going to help all racism just go away.

Really!

Honest inj..... uh, honest engine.

All those racist rebels are now going to have a change of heart and start loving their darker colored neighbors.

Why didn't we think of this before?
It never was about making racism go away. How many times does that need to be said?

Using your logic, why not fly a Swastika flag over the Capital building too? Will it increase hate for Jews? Will taking it down decrease hate for Jews? No. It should not be up there because it's an affront to Jews.

Bowas
06-23-2015, 06:03 PM
90% of the blacks voted for these racists represented by this flag on this campaign logo in 1992.
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Please understand, this entire "movement" is designed to further divide our nation.

But for the good news.
While Walmart has removed all Stars and Bars or Confederate flag from their stores, one can still buy plenty of this murdering Marxists Che Guevara stuff at the stores.

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Evang.Benincasa
06-23-2015, 09:40 PM
Bowas,
Your attempt to link the two fail because Gold's Gym's reputation is already established and it would take a lot of racist, mass murderers wearing Gold's Gym shirts to make the connection stick.

The confederate flag already has had A LOT of racist, hateful and violent people associated with it for years and years.

Dylann Roof is just the latest to repeat the historical narrative associated with the confederate flag.

Wow, and the American flag has nothing but peace associated to it.

Now, I feel safe. :)

Evang.Benincasa
06-23-2015, 09:47 PM
90% of the blacks voted for these racists represented by this flag on this campaign logo in 1992.
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Please understand, this entire "movement" is designed to further divide our nation.

But for the good news.
While Walmart has removed all Stars and Bars or Confederate flag from their stores, one can still buy plenty of this murdering Marxists Che Guevara stuff at the stores.

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https://31.media.tumblr.com/de3e5a07799ad6b8816a6d8c5481a836/tumblr_inline_nmkriuzedO1rkj6an_500.gif

Evang.Benincasa
06-23-2015, 09:53 PM
It never was about making racism go away. How many times does that need to be said?

Using your logic, why not fly a Swastika flag over the Capital building too? Will it increase hate for Jews? Will taking it down decrease hate for Jews? No. It should not be up there because it's an affront to Jews.


What about Armenians?

They had a holocaust, we should get rid of Turkish flags!

mfblume
06-23-2015, 10:26 PM
AND....Walmart will be pulling all merchandise with the rebel flag from all its stores.

Whew!

There goes the GENERAL LEE car models in Walmart! Oh oh.

Evang.Benincasa
06-23-2015, 10:43 PM
There goes the GENERAL LEE car models in Walmart! Oh oh.

Crush all 69 Dodge Chargers!

Keep America Free!

Oh, I feel so safe! :thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa
06-23-2015, 10:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCFCt2vZ8L4

Look what they think about flags at a Hebrew Burger King. ;)

TJJJ
06-24-2015, 06:23 AM
Ya all do sense my sarcasm, right? Bwahahaha!

Originalist
06-24-2015, 06:50 AM
It never was about making racism go away. How many times does that need to be said?

Using your logic, why not fly a Swastika flag over the Capital building too? Will it increase hate for Jews? Will taking it down decrease hate for Jews? No. It should not be up there because it's an affront to Jews.

Bad analogy. Hitler supported the Union in Mein Kampf, not the South. He understood that the South was fighting for decentralization, which as abhorrent to his dream of centralized power.

n david
06-24-2015, 08:03 AM
Nobody...NOBODY is blaming it ON the confederate flag. NOBODY. That is an asinine post
Sure about that, Prax? The Confederacy is dominating the conversation right now. Everyone, including Republicans, is jumping on the "BAN THE FLAG" bandwagon. And it's not just the flag, it's anything remotely related to the Confederacy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/business/amazon-big-retailers-remove-confederate-flag-merchandise.html?_r=0

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2015/06/24/nascar-backs-call-to-remove-confederate-flag-from-south-carolina-statehouse/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/24/hypocrisy-watch-from-confederate-flag-to-finger-pointing-over-church-murders/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/23/charleston-church-shooting-reignites-decades-old-controversy-over-confederate/

Mitch McConnell has even released a statement demanding the Jefferson Davis statue currently residing in the Kentucky capitol building be removed and put in a museum instead.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/mitch-mcconnell-to-kentucky-capitol-lose-the-jefferson-davis-statue-20150623

What's next, are we going to rename every street, military base, school and any other building bearing the name of a Confederate?

Blaming the Confederacy on Roof's shooting is like blaming guns for killing people. It's stupid. And it's a smokescreen and distraction from the real issue which were the medications this kid was on when he went on his rage.

n david
06-24-2015, 12:56 PM
"The Cultural Cleansing of the Southern States Begins"

A full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states is underway as lawmakers debate whether to remove Confederate flags and rename schools and parks named after Confederate war heroes.

There are also discussions in Washington, D.C. about removing Confederate-related statues from the U.S. Capitol — including a statue of Jefferson Davis, the former president of the Confederacy.

*Tennessee lawmakers are demanding that a bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest be removed from the statehouse;

*Baltimore lawmakers want to rename Robert E. Lee Park;

*Dallas lawmakers are considering demands to rename Stonewall Jackson Elementary School;

*St. Louis lawmakers are debating over the future of a confederate statue in a city park;

*Commissioners in Hillsborough, North Carolina are debating whether to remove the words “Confederate Memorial” from a Confederate memorial.

*The Memphis City Council voted in 2013 to rename three parks – Confederate Park, Jefferson Davis Park and Nathan Bedford Forrest Park.

It won’t be too long before they start renaming cities and towns and counties named after Confederates. And I reckon it’s only a matter of time before they bulldoze the Confederate grave yards and war memorials too.

[B]Maybe we can just pretend the Civil War never happened.[/B

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/the-cultural-cleansing-of-the-southern-states-begins.html


Ridiculous

Bowas
06-24-2015, 01:59 PM
So glad Amazon is principled enough to remove all things concerning the confederate flag, as it represents a bygone era of racial atrocities and they now have purged themselves of contributing to that sort of offensive history.

But for the good news!!

One can still purchase memorabilia of a more harmonious time where inequalities and death was far removed.



So glad Amazon still sells Nazi memorabilia and not confederate memorabilia.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/24/amazon-bans-confederate-flags-still-sells-nazi-merchandise/

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Monterrey
06-24-2015, 05:00 PM
So glad Amazon is principled enough to remove all things concerning the confederate flag, as it represents a bygone era of racial atrocities and they now have purged themselves of contributing to that sort of offensive history.

But for the good news!!

One can still purchase memorabilia of a more harmonious time where inequalities and death was far removed.



So glad Amazon still sells Nazi memorabilia and not confederate memorabilia.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/24/amazon-bans-confederate-flags-still-sells-nazi-merchandise/

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Oh that is rich!

Jito463
06-25-2015, 06:58 AM
I don't see the confederate flag as representing racism. However, I do see it as representing treason. I don't have any issue with individuals who wants to fly it, but no state government should ever fly the flag that represents a very dark chapter in our nation's history.

You're missing the issue. The issue isn't the flag. The flag is a distraction.

The issue is Roof was on the same type of mood-altering medication which every single other mass shooter has been taking.

But Pharma likes that you're more upset about the dumb flag than its murder meds.

I read that other thread. The question I would ask is, how many people who take those drugs, have *NEVER* done anything violent. I imagine the number is far higher than those who have. I'm not saying the drugs don't play a part, but I'd argue that certain people are simply more reactive to their affects than most. Those people should not have been put on them, but that doesn't mean those drugs are evil and will cause violence.

Evang.Benincasa
06-25-2015, 05:57 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102789712

Apple pulls Civil War games from its App Store

I feel safe now.

Evang.Benincasa
06-25-2015, 05:58 PM
Civil War Reenactment groups will no longer have Southern Troops?

Evang.Benincasa
06-25-2015, 06:00 PM
Civil War toy solider sets will no longer have Confederate soldiers.

Praxeas
06-25-2015, 06:39 PM
What about Armenians?

They had a holocaust, we should get rid of Turkish flags!
What Turkish flags fly over a Government building in the US?

BTW Those were Ottomans

Praxeas
06-25-2015, 06:39 PM
What about Armenians?

They had a holocaust, we should get rid of Turkish flags!
Don't get rid of flags. Just don't fly non state or federal flags over government buildings

Originalist
06-25-2015, 07:25 PM
I don't see the confederate flag as representing racism. However, I do see it as representing treason. I don't have any issue with individuals who wants to fly it, but no state government should ever fly the flag that represents a very dark chapter in our nation's history.



I read that other thread. The question I would ask is, how many people who take those drugs, have *NEVER* done anything violent. I imagine the number is far higher than those who have. I'm not saying the drugs don't play a part, but I'd argue that certain people are simply more reactive to their affects than most. Those people should not have been put on them, but that doesn't mean those drugs are evil and will cause violence.

Please explain how seceding from the Union is treason if done under the authority of the people of a State and not its state government.

Evang.Benincasa
06-26-2015, 08:23 AM
What Turkish flags fly over a Government building in the US?

BTW Those were Ottomans

When they were Ottomans they were no longer Turks?

The Greeks will be happy to know that. :heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa
06-26-2015, 08:29 AM
Don't get rid of flags. Just don't fly non state or federal flags over government buildings

Shouldn't that be left up to the people of the state where the flag is flown?

If Florida wanted to fly a Jolly Roger over our State Building and the people of the wonderful state of Florida agreed, then whose business is it other than Floridians who voted? My point concerning flags is that we have to let the people decide and not the media.

Liteweight47
06-29-2015, 10:27 AM
Everyone is blaming it on the rebel flag.

Amazon will not be selling the flag any more so no more mass shootings in the south.

Thank goodness that is taken care of. My mind is at rest.

Realistically this far a long after a mass shooting we're usually talking about taking guns.......

........ so you have to admit this a step in the right direction.:blah

Liteweight47
06-29-2015, 10:40 AM
Shouldn't that be left up to the people of the state where the flag is flown?

If Florida wanted to fly a Jolly Roger over our State Building and the people of the wonderful state of Florida agreed, then whose business is it other than Floridians who voted? My point concerning flags is that we have to let the people decide and not the media.

Yes. You're right.

In case you missed it though, apparently people have been protesting in the State of South Carolina. So the issue has been brought back into the media as of late as it has periodically since the 1960s when the flag was first flown over the capitol and probably will until it finally becomes irrelevant enough to take down. Now South Carolina will make the decision as a state whether or not that day has come.

Personally I could care less about the flag. I can't say I'm a fan though; of confederate flags or jolly rangers.

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2015, 01:41 PM
Yes. You're right.

In case you missed it though, apparently people have been protesting in the State of South Carolina. So the issue has been brought back into the media as of late as it has periodically since the 1960s when the flag was first flown over the capitol and probably will until it finally becomes irrelevant enough to take down. Now South Carolina will make the decision as a state whether or not that day has come.

Personally I could care less about the flag. I can't say I'm a fan though; of confederate flags or jolly rangers.

Still it should always be left up to the voters, not the protesters, not the state's politicians regardless of what the voters want.

Liteweight47
06-30-2015, 09:21 AM
Still it should always be left up to the voters, not the protesters, not the state's politicians regardless of what the voters want.

If I remember correctly it was the state's legislature that put the thing up in the first place. So it's the state legislature that should and can make the decision to take it down. If the voters have a problem with it they should take it up with their democratically elected officials at the polls.

Evang.Benincasa
07-01-2015, 07:12 AM
If I remember correctly it was the state's legislature that put the thing up in the first place. So it's the state legislature that should and can make the decision to take it down. If the voters have a problem with it they should take it up with their democratically elected officials at the polls.

Did anyone vote to take it down?

n david
07-01-2015, 07:29 AM
Don't get rid of flags. Just don't fly non state or federal flags over government buildings

Yeah, it's already not flying over a government building. It hasn't been since 2012. Currently, it's flying at the memorial to the Confederate Army.

n david
07-01-2015, 07:30 AM
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Evang.Benincasa
07-01-2015, 09:00 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Flag_of_Mississippi.svg/225px-Flag_of_Mississippi.svg.png

Liteweight47
07-04-2015, 06:37 AM
Did anyone vote to take it down?

Not yet, apparently debate in the legislature will begin Monday and then the state legislature will begin the perfectly legal process of deciding whether or not their going to take down a flag they put up. Then there will be a vote. Whatever they decide....... we should probably respect it, since it's the "states right". I have a feeling, though, if it's not the decision you want.... you'll cry foul. It's the state's right... as long as you get what you want.:icecream

Evang.Benincasa
07-04-2015, 08:22 AM
Not yet, apparently debate in the legislature will begin Monday and then the state legislature will begin the perfectly legal process of deciding whether or not their going to take down a flag they put up. Then there will be a vote. Whatever they decide....... we should probably respect it, since it's the "states right". I have a feeling, though, if it's not the decision you want.... you'll cry foul. It's the state's right... as long as you get what you want.:icecream

How did you come to this conclusion from reading my posts?