The Greek Default

[n david]

Yesterday, the citizens of Greece overwhelmingly voted no to a bailout. I've read that banks are closed and ATMs are only allowing withdraws of 60euro per day.

Anyone following the developments in Greece? If so, what is your take on the events happening there?

[Scott Pitta]

The Greeks need the EU more than the EU need Greece. Greece should follow the leadership of the EU, even if it is painful.

[Esaias]

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you...

[Esaias]

Bailout... that's funny right there. I think ye Olde Englische term was "theft".

[n david]

From the little I've read, the default and rejection of the bailout is a good thing for Greece in the long term. Am I right or wrong?

[Esaias]

The Greek government had previously declared the money "owed" was illegitimate and "odious". Similar to Iceland's previous repudiating of the bankster claims.

[Scott Pitta]

Most all countries that host the Olympics borrow money for improvements and end up losing money on the deal.

China's slowdown has a greater impact on the US economy than Greece has.

All countries need to pay down their debt. Especially ours.

[KeptByTheWord]

Does anyone know which prophecy that David Wilkerson spoke of that involved Greece? I remember something to the effect of ... the downfall of Greece will lead to the eventual downfall of the world, or something like that? This was a prophecy or dream he spoke of in one of his books, I believe, written back in the 70s.

[n david]

Does anyone know which prophecy that David Wilkerson spoke of that involved Greece? I remember something to the effect of ... the downfall of Greece will lead to the eventual downfall of the world, or something like that? This was a prophecy or dream he spoke of in one of his books, I believe, written back in the 70s.
Really? I'll have to check that out!

[n david]

Does anyone know which prophecy that David Wilkerson spoke of that involved Greece? I remember something to the effect of ... the downfall of Greece will lead to the eventual downfall of the world, or something like that? This was a prophecy or dream he spoke of in one of his books, I believe, written back in the 70s.
This prophecy was included in a message David Wilkerson preached in 1994!

From the time the first country goes down, you'll have two weeks to get your money out of the bank.
America will come through this crisis---there will be a restoration.
But the nation will never be like it was before...
God is saying: Get our lives straight...Get rid of the idols...Seek the face of God in holiness...
God will be a wall of fire about you...And the glory in the midst of you!
It's about to happen---very soon, one nation, and I'm speaking prophetically--if I've ever heard anything from God in my life, I heard it ... Very soon a European or North African or Eastern nation is going to default on its international loan and when that happens, within two weeks, Mexico is going to default. Mexico owes $100 billion ---80% of it to American banks---and here's what is going to happen: about two weeks after the first country goes bankrupt, (we're going to survive that, because most of that (money of the first country) is owed to European banks---German, Swiss and French banks) but a second country is going to go down, probably Argentina or Brazil, and we'll kind of live that down and say: "Well, maybe it's not going to hurt," but two weeks after the first country goes down, Mexico's going to default on $100 billion.

And when the banks open the next day at 9 in the morning, $15 billion an hour is going to be withdrawn from our American banks -they're going to be running our banks---the Arabs---all the Latin American countries, they're going to be running our banks--and before the day is over, the USA is going to have to declare a "bank holiday."

SIX MONTHS OF HORROR:

And we're going into six months of the worst hell America has ever seen---there's going to be chaos---not even the National Guard's going to be able to quiet it down---we're going to have to call out the whole U.S. Army.

Now I've had visions recently, for I've been in New York City and I was in Macy's in a vision, and I saw people walking around stunned because they couldn't get their money out of the bank.

Now I'm going to give you a word of advice, the first country goes bankrupt---I've documented this and I've got it sealed in an envelope, and I'm going to call all my friends and I'm telling you---this is the first time I've said it in a public meeting like this---but the first country that bellies up, you go get every dime you have---church get your money out of the bank--because there's going to be a 'bank holiday' and you won't be able to get a dime for six months. Now, of course, there's going to be -restored, but the nation will never be like it is again.

There's going to be fear like we've never known---judgment at the door. When I was at Macy's Dept. Store in a vision and I watched people walking around stunned, they didn't know what to do, they didn't know what was happening; then a bunch of people walked into Macy's and suddenly went wild and began to steal and within an hour everybody---I saw the spirit of everybody in the store---they were robbing and stealing---they raped Macy's and destroyed five floors---Macy's was raped and ruined in a period of an hour or two.

That's just the beginning. Folks it's all in this book (the bible) ---we've been warned and warned and warned---you can't tell me God hasn't warned us. You can't tell me God isn't saying something awesome here tonight in this church...we better get our prayer life straightened up, our lives straightened up, get rid of the idols, as Paul writes, and seeking the face of God in holiness or you're not going to be ready for what's coming. God's warning, get ready and you'll not fear these things that come onto you and you'll start rejoicing, you'll not be afraid because your hands will be clean. You've been praying and God's building a wall of fire around you to keep you."

We'd like to teach you a song about God's protection. It goes like this.: "There's a wall of fire around me...There's a wall of fire between my soul and the enemy. There's a wall of fire that you can't see...Between my soul and the enemy. There's a wall of fire around me. May it be so with us all

[KeptByTheWord]

I knew I had read something that David Wilkerson had spoken of about an impending disaster beginning with a European country. Thanks for researching it for me ND!

[n david]

The new deadline for Greece is Sunday. If they do not make a deal by then, they will default. That means, according to this prophecy, that July 26th will be the beginning of the US economic collapse. Monday, July 27th, would be the day the banks will be overrun and they will declare a holiday.

[n david]

We've been attending a home church for the past few months, and the pastor's wife there told us that months ago God impressed her to start preparing for rough times ahead. This past weekend she showed my wife their garage, which is filled, and I mean half the garage is filled, with bottled water, food, backpacks and other items.

I trust and believe God is going to take care of His people, much like He did while the children of Israel lived in Goshen, but it's still a bit scary having young ones.

[Esaias]

We've been attending a home church for the past few months, and the pastor's wife there told us that months ago God impressed her to start preparing for rough times ahead. This past weekend she showed my wife their garage, which is filled, and I mean half the garage is filled, with bottled water, food, backpacks and other items.

I trust and believe God is going to take care of His people, much like He did while the children of Israel lived in Goshen, but it's still a bit scary having young ones.

How did God take care of Noah? Or Joseph and his family during the seven year famine?

There is ZERO "conflict" between "God will take care of his people" and "get prepared".

[Scott Pitta]

The debt crisis Puerto Rico has a greater impact on the bond market than Greece does. The artificial economy China has made has dropped by 25% and will likely drop even more. That problem also impacts the USA more than Greece.

If the prophecy has no time frame associated with it, how do we know this stage of the Greek crisis is the bottom ? Seems vague to me.

[KeptByTheWord]

We've been attending a home church for the past few months, and the pastor's wife there told us that months ago God impressed her to start preparing for rough times ahead. This past weekend she showed my wife their garage, which is filled, and I mean half the garage is filled, with bottled water, food, backpacks and other items.

I trust and believe God is going to take care of His people, much like He did while the children of Israel lived in Goshen, but it's still a bit scary having young ones.

I believe the Lord still speaks, leads and guides today.

How did God take care of Noah? Or Joseph and his family during the seven year famine?

There is ZERO "conflict" between "God will take care of his people" and "get prepared".

:thumbsup

I believe that the Lord is mightily able to take care of His children no matter what situations they face. And we do need to be careful to heed His voice as He leads us.

Food storage is never a bad idea, in moderation, because a natural disaster could be at your doorstep at any given moment.

On the other hand... while the Lord told the children of Israel to take as much the gold and jewelry out of Egypt as they could, He never told them to take food storage.

So, it is important to listen to what the Lord speaks to our hearts. He always has a purpose, and a plan, and while we may not understand, we need to be obedient.

[n david]

Greece got a deal and avoided default, thank God.

Greece is an example of what left-wing, liberal, socialist policies will cause. For the liberals on here who believe in big government, a welfare state, etc, look at the mess it's created there.

Greece may have been bailed out, again, but it's not a permanent solution. In fact, the articles I've read claim it does nothing to help Greece get out of the debt they're in. It delays the inevitable. Greece will default again some day. And this bailout will make that default, and the resulting collapse, even worse.

[Evang.Benincasa]

You just can't even imagine what is going on over in Greece.