SC School Officer Beats Up Girl

[n david]

For JD and Fiona. There are times when officers are in the wrong. And the few times this happens, I will state as such.

https://youtu.be/Tq4BR5KHuqA

I understand this girl is sitting there, disobeying lawful orders. And she may even be talking smack to this resource officer.

Regardless, flipping her backwards in the chair, then throwing her across the room was completely wrong and way over the line, and he shouldn't be assigned to another school anywhere.

What a big man, beating up on a school girl. Bet this isn't the first he's beat up a female.

[Jermyn Davidson]

I disagree with you and STAND WITH THE POLICE OFFICER in this case.

What is the cop supposed to do?

There isn't an easy way to remove a defiant, high school aged child from a school desk/chair.

If the cops are called to escort you from your high school, you are already wrong. Then, she clearly disrespected the lawful authority of the cop. By the time the cops have to be called to escort you from your high school classroom, you've probably disrespected all of the other authorities too.

It looks brutal on tv and it was brutal, but I don't see how the cop could have handled this situation any differently.

Her defiance escalated the situation.

Meet force with overwhelming force.

He had no choice, other than walk away and I wouldn't have walked away from this either if I were this cop. He was called there for a reason. He had a job to do and he did it.

[Jermyn Davidson]

He didn't beat her.

He removed her from the desk/chair.

[n david]

Hahaha wow, what a hypocrite.

You whine about a cop punching a grown man who was resisting arrest, trying to get him on his back....yet you stick up for a rent a cop flipping a girl over backwards, then flinging her across the floor.

This rent a cop was in the wrong. It's a teenaged school girl. He could have done his job in much better way which didn't include possibly breaking her neck. Obviously rent a cop school doesn't teach conflict resolution.

Were I this girl's father, this rent a cop wouldn't be setting foot in another school again.

Hope they file civil suit against the rent a cop and school.

Props though, for not jumping on the white cop/black teenage girl racial wagon.

[Jermyn Davidson]

This incident wasn't racial.

I am not a hypocrite at all. I resent that remark.

I've dealt with defiant school kids.

I am glad she wasn't hurt.

I just don't know what the cop was supposed to do.

As for other situations, this cop didn't punch her in the face, didn't edge her on, professionally asked her to remove herself from her desk/chair and when she didn't comply, the cop made her comply.

I hope THIS COP does not lose his job over this situation.

It was brutal, but his options were limited by her defiance.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Dude, another thing, I don't whine about nothing.

[n david]

This incident wasn't racial.

I am not a hypocrite at all. I resent that remark.

I've dealt with defiant school kids.

I am glad she wasn't hurt.

I just don't know what the cop was supposed to do.

As for other situations, this cop didn't punch her in the face, didn't edge her on, professionally asked her to remove herself from her desk/chair and when she didn't comply, the cop made her comply.

I hope THIS COP does not lose his job over this situation.

It was brutal, but his options were limited by her defiance.
You are being hypocritical.

The rent a cop didn't need to use that kind of force to make her comply.

You admit it was brutal, but that's okay with you. So a rent a cop can use brutal force against a teenage school girl, but not against a grown man?

Have you beat on a female before? Did you feel like a man afterwards?

[n david]

Dude, another thing, I don't whine about nothing.
Which means you do whine about something. :lol

A good 75% of your posts are whines, either about cops or Republicans.

[jfrog]

This incident wasn't racial.

I am not a hypocrite at all. I resent that remark.

I've dealt with defiant school kids.

I am glad she wasn't hurt.

I just don't know what the cop was supposed to do.

As for other situations, this cop didn't punch her in the face, didn't edge her on, professionally asked her to remove herself from her desk/chair and when she didn't comply, the cop made her comply.

I hope THIS COP does not lose his job over this situation.

It was brutal, but his options were limited by her defiance.

if that's how a defiant school kid gets dealt with then how should a defiant adult get dealt with?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Which means you do whine about something. :lol

A good 75% of your posts are whines, either about cops or Republicans.

Whatever man. I don't whine.

[Jermyn Davidson]

if that's how a defiant school kid gets dealt with then how should a defiant adult get dealt with?

Notice in this case, the Police Officer didn't resort to punching the kid. Neither did the Police Officer shoot the kid in the back or otherwise.

It is difficult to forcibly remove ANYONE from one of those desk/chair things. He did what he had to do. I question why there are Police Officers IN our schools in the first place.

Even if there is some justification for Police Officers being actually IN our schools on a daily basis, what on earth was going on in this classroom BEFORE this unfolded to warrant the calling of the Police to the classroom?

I want to hear from the Teacher.

[Jermyn Davidson]

You are being hypocritical.

The rent a cop didn't need to use that kind of force to make her comply.

You admit it was brutal, but that's okay with you. So a rent a cop can use brutal force against a teenage school girl, but not against a grown man?

Have you beat on a female before? Did you feel like a man afterwards?

1) He is a Police Officer, not a rent-a-cop.

2) He didn't beat on her.

3) She resisted a police officer's commands. What do you want him to do, ignore it and walk away? You try removing someone who is resisting from one of those chair/desk things!

4) The teacher and school administrator deemed her a threat and called him to do a job and he did it. This 15 year old and the school officials created this situation. The police officer was just doing what he was trained to do. When he realized she was resisting, what would you have him do-- call for back up?

5) If you don't want police officers to use police maneuvers in a school, don't have police officers stationed in a school! This was a bad decision by the school administrators and county officials from the beginning. Putting police officers in schools and asking them to police school infractions is a disaster waiting to happen.

6) You've plainly stated something horrible and now you have insinuated something worse! I am quick to apologize once someone makes it clear I have offended them, but I don't get the same in return from you or anyone on AFF. If I make a point and even insinuate an insult in the process, I have people straight up going overkill on me. I bring up an offense and it is ignored and rebounded with another insult.

7) So you can go sit on a tack! You're proving to be not worth jousting with any more.

[n david]

Such a hypocrite. Here you list things you could very well use in the thread about the grown man who was resisting arrest and the officer resorted to tactical punches ... Something you even later said was taught... Only with a baton.

Gimme a break. You think it's okay for this rent a cop to yank her backwards, she could've been seriously hurt with that takedown, but he doesn't stop there. He then throws her across the room. You're okay with that as well.

Apply this to the incident with the grown man and you'll see your glaring hypocrisy.

[n david]

Per JD, a police officer is bad and should be fired for trying to subdue a grown man resisting police commands...but it's OKAY for a rent a cop to yank a teenage girl backwards in her seat, and then hurl her across the room into a wall.

Smh

[n david]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/sc-classroom-confrontation-video-shows-student-hit-school/story?id=34774228

Rent a cop has a history of aggression. Some even call him "Officer Slam."

But JD thinks it's okay, since this rent a cop is doing this in school to teenage girls, and not out in the public to grown men.

[n david]

These aren't real officers, btw. Yes, they're hired by the sheriff or local police, but they only have jurisdiction within the school.

They're school cops. Like mall cops, only in schools.

[n david]

This girl was being disruptive and insulting, she wasn't being physically violent or aggressive towards anyone.

I hope "Officer Slam" gets fired and is blacklisted by law enforcement.

If he displays this kind of aggression against a teenage girl, who's mouthing off in school, what do you think he's going to do to someone really resisting arrest?

He's going to shoot someone.

But again, JD thinks this is completely okay.

[n david]

Please post a source where the "teacher deemed her a threat."

From ABC News "the student was "verbally disrespectful" to the teacher. The student refused to leave the classroom, and an administrator was called, Lott said. The student still refused to leave, so Fields was called. The student was still disrespectful, so Fields was asked to remove her from the class."

So Officer Slam enters the scene and beats her up so badly that: "the girl's arm is in a cast, she has a rug burn on her forehead and has pain in her neck and back. She was hospitalized Monday night and saw a doctor today."

What a manly man. And JD sticking up for this scumbag.

[Praxeas]

For JD and Fiona. There are times when officers are in the wrong. And the few times this happens, I will state as such.

https://youtu.be/Tq4BR5KHuqA

I understand this girl is sitting there, disobeying lawful orders. And she may even be talking smack to this resource officer.

Regardless, flipping her backwards in the chair, then throwing her across the room was completely wrong and way over the line, and he shouldn't be assigned to another school anywhere.

What a big man, beating up on a school girl. Bet this isn't the first he's beat up a female.
There is another video. He did not flip her chair. He grabbed her and she put her feet straight out so that they caught the desk and flipped it

[Praxeas]

I disagree with you and STAND WITH THE POLICE OFFICER in this case.

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:jaw

[Praxeas]

These aren't real officers, btw. Yes, they're hired by the sheriff or local police, but they only have jurisdiction within the school.

They're school cops. Like mall cops, only in schools.
I think he is a real cop, assigned to a school

[Praxeas]

So, my question is, HOW do you remove a student who won't leave?

[Jermyn Davidson]

In THIS case, the 15 year old high school student actually hit the Police Officer.

In other cases where I have critical of the police, the adult suspect usually have not hit the officer.

In this case, the Police Officer did not hit her, he was simply trying to get her to comply.

Furthermore, this Police Officer has a black long-term girlfriend. Any notion of this incident being driven by racial prejudice or hatred are blown out the water.

This case is different from Eric Garner, the body slamming of the elderly Indian guy, the college football player in Texas and many other situations where I have been critical of the police's response.

This doesn't even compare to the Trayvon Martin case-- he was verifiably stalked!

This girl is without excuse.

And the "scholarship" she would have won for being the "victim" in this case will not come to her because she hit the Police Officer.

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Ao.8wtQcWvImJ5yfwgO7XnebvZx4?fr=yfp-t-774-s&toggle=1&fp=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=girl%20hits%20officer%20south%20carolina

[n david]

Oh please, she slapped the rent a cop.

So that gives him the right to yank her backwards, then slam her against the wall, causing injuries?

[n david]

I think he is a real cop, assigned to a school
School resource officers are employed by the sheriff or local pd, but have no authority beyond the school.

Basically a rent a cop.

[n david]

There is another video. He did not flip her chair. He grabbed her and she put her feet straight out so that they caught the desk and flipped it
Yes, he yanked her backwards.

[n david]

So, my question is, HOW do you remove a student who won't leave?
Officer Slam didn't need to use that kind of force for a teenage girl who was simply bring disrespectful.

I was in my car the other day and this teenage girl walked in front of my car with a couple of her friends. I was on my phone, in no hurry. As she passed, she asked, "What you gonna dude, run me over?"

I barely looked at this girl. Hadn't said anything or done anything. Kids are just extremely disrespectful these days.

[Praxeas]

School resource officers are employed by the sheriff or local pd, but have no authority beyond the school.

Basically a rent a cop.
A rent a cop is just a security guard. These guys are full on cops. They can make stops/arrests outside of schools too

[Praxeas]

Yes, he yanked her backwards.

No the video looks like he tried to lift her UP and she stuck her legs out and the desk lifted up and her and it went backwards.

He should not have tossed her across the room though

[Praxeas]

Officer Slam didn't need to use that kind of force for a teenage girl who was simply bring disrespectful.

I was in my car the other day and this teenage girl walked in front of my car with a couple of her friends. I was on my phone, in no hurry. As she passed, she asked, "What you gonna dude, run me over?"

I barely looked at this girl. Hadn't said anything or done anything. Kids are just extremely disrespectful these days.
You didn't actually say how he should have gotten her OUT of the room. That was his job. I ask again...HOW?

Do you understand he was called in to remove her from the class room?

[n david]

A rent a cop is just a security guard. These guys are full on cops. They can make stops/arrests outside of schools too
Nope, most school resource officers have zero authority outside their school.

[Praxeas]

They are sworn LEO'S
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_resource_officer

[Monterrey]

He was a duly sworn LEO.

Just assigned to a school as a liasion.

[n david]

"that occur within their jurisdiction."

What's a school resource officer's jurisdiction? Pretty sure it's just the school they're assigned to.

Regardless, "Officer Slam" (as is his appropriate nickname) should be fired and never hold a badge again.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Unfortunately, he was fired.

[n david]

:thumbsup

That's GREAT news!

[n david]

Officer Slam was not a good cop.

Sued multiple times for excessive force.

"In 2007, a couple sued Fields, fellow deputy Joseph Clark and Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott, alleging false arrest, excessive force and violation of free speech rights in 2005.

According to the complaint, Carlos Edward Martin was driving home and got out of his car when Fields approached him and asked whether he was the source of an excessive noise complaint that the officer was investigating.

Martin claimed that Fields "slammed him to the ground, cuffed him, began kicking him, and chemically maced him until his clothing was drenched and the contents of the can of mace was [sic] depleted," according to court documents."

Dude should never wear a badge again. Anywhere. Ever.