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Nahum
06-19-2007, 08:47 AM
I first felt the call of God on my life as a young child during a morning prayer session at our Christian school in southern Missouri. I was twelve years old and no one in my family had ever been involved in ministry. I did not know what to do with the desire God had placed in me to preach so at the age of twelve I began teaching home bible studies to my neighbors. I was active in every ministry in the church my parents would allow me to be a part of.

I saw sacrifice at a very young age. My mom and dad had four kids and it was their desire to see each of us attend a Christian school. It was hard for them to make ends meet without the costs of Christian education, but even more so after we enrolled.

I can remember my dad working a 40 hour week for the phone company and then working every odd job he could find to help pay for our paces and tuition. I remember my mom taking a factory job to help put us through the Christian school. She also was a seamstress, earning extra money through long hours of tailoring late at night.

When all of the paychecks were not enough to cover the costs of raising our family and putting us through the Christian school, they would sell things to cover the costs of tuition for the four of us kids. Family heirlooms. Guns, clocks, and the like.

That kind of sacrifice was bred into us kids. We saw it first hand, everyday.
Today, three of my mom and dad's four kids are active in Christian ministry. I pastor, my brother is an assistant pastor, and my sister is married to a Baptist preacher. So I know that the sacrifices my parents made really impacted the world in a positive way.




More to come....

J-Roc
06-19-2007, 09:00 AM
I appreciate your parents dedication, sacrifice and commitment to their kids...


...I hold the same philosophy and will do everything I possibly can to put them through christian schools...

...my son, Joshua, starts kindergarten this fall and I enrolled him in a local AOG private school...I'll work overtime if necessary....but I WILL NOT send my kids to public school with God's help...


This song entered my mind this weekend while reading a book on the train ride into work. The paragraph I was reading made me remember a song that they had us 6th graders sing (I think for our graduation) at my public elementary school...the lyrics and message never dawned on me until that moment on the train, but I can easily remember the first few lines and the melody of the song (that is how awfully it is indelibly engrained in my mind, though it was a song I had not heard in over 2 decades)...I googled the song and found it just so that I can read the entire message....I was appalled at what they were subliminally instilling in us children.....LORD guard my children from this perverse society...that is one of many reasons why I intend to keep my kids out of the public school system and send them to private christian schools....the message of homosexuality and coming out of the closet can clearly be read between the lines. I am filled with anger, because if I could recall the song 2 decades later, how many of my classmates could do likewise and how many of them use these kind of messages to assuage any particular philosophy they hold that stands against God's holiness...




Lyrics by Jerry Herman

I AM WHAT I AM


I am what I am, I am my own special creation
So come take a look, give me the hook or the ovation
It's my world that I want to have a little pride in
My world and it's not a place I have to hide in
Life's not worth a ........ 'til you can say, hey world
I am what I am


I am what I am, I don't want praise I don't want pity
I bang my own drum, some think it's noise I think it's pretty
And so what if I love each feather and each spangle
Why not try to see things from a different angle
Your life is a sham 'til you can shout out loud
I am what I am


I am what I am and what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck sometimes the ace, sometimes the deuces
There's one life and there's no return and no deposit
One life so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a ........ 'til you can say, hey world
I am what I am

________________


I did further research and discovered that this song was in a broadway musical...Herman wrote the score to La Cage aux Folles, a musical about two middle-aged gay lovers. One of the songs in the show, "I Am What I Am," has become the gay national anthem. The show won six prizes at the 1984 Tony Awards and had a Broadway run of five years.



La Cage aux Folles is a Tony Award-winning musical with a book by Harvey Fierstein and lyrics and music by Jerry Herman. Based on the 1973 French play by Jean Poiret and subsequent 1978 French-Italian screen version (one of the most popular foreign films ever released in the United States), the musical focuses on a gay couple
: Georges, the manager of a Saint-Tropez nightclub featuring drag entertainment, and Albin, his star attraction - and the adventures that ensue when Georges' son brings home his fianc?e's ultra-conservative parents to meet them.


SONG LIST:

Act I
We Are What We Are
A Little More Mascara
With Anne on My Arm
With You on My Arm
The Promenade
Song on the Sand
La Cage aux Folles
I Am What I Am


Act II

Song on the Sand
Masculinity
Look Over There
Cocktail Counterpoint (aka "Dishes")
The Best of Times
Look Over There (Reprise)
The Finale

Albin's Act I finale number, the rousing "I Am What I Am,"
was recorded by Gloria Gaynor and proved to be one of her biggest hits. It also became a rallying cry of the Gay Pride movement
.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cage_aux_Folles

Nahum
06-19-2007, 09:05 AM
Soon after I married my wife, we moved to St Louis so that I could attend Gateway. While I was at Gateway I landed a job with a large warehousing outfit. I was youth pastor at my church, attended school 18 hours a week, and worked a 40 hour job - plus overnight at UPS. My wife has never worked a full time job because we chose to raise our kids without daycare.

After graduation from Gateway I continued to work in our local assembly until it was time to step out in faith and calling to the city where I now pastor. I left a good job to do so. It was not hard to do. I just followed what I had been shown by my parents. I turned down an offer for over $100 K to stay at the warehousing job and instead chose to go plant a church (crazy, I know).

Over the past six years my kids have been privy to the sacrifices involved in ministry. When we first started, they lived in the back of the church for six months. Since then, God has blessed us with a decent home. But my kids have been involved in every aspect of the work. Singing, leading, outreach, evangelism and the like. Their home has been turned into a haven for every lonely soul in town. Privacy has become an archaic word around here. LOL

I really don't think my kids realize that they missed out on anything. They aren't kids who ask for a lot. They are just as happy to go for an ice cream as they are to go to Branson or Six Flags. I have watched in awe as my twin boys have, of their own accord, taken some of their favorite clothes and given them to someone who needed them more. My daughter makes an effort to be a friend to the friendless in our school. I am very proud of my kids.

We recently noticed that our daughter is being led of God into the mission field. She is seventeen and brilliant. The idea scares us to death. But hey, she is only imitating what she has seen.

Nahum
06-19-2007, 09:12 AM
I said all of that to say this, Is sacrifice ugly, or beautiful?

When you look back over your life and view all of the things you have sacrificed, does it bother you or fill you with joy? Do you regret the life you have lived and feel like you have missed out on something, or do you rejoice at the opportunities God has given you to minister?

I have read Sister Alvear's posts in the past month and literally bawled at the sacrifice and extreme burden she has for souls and the Kingdom work. I read Sherri's post this week about selling their home so that they could give more to the Kingdom. It floored me.

We so often hear that Americans are lazy and selfish and godless. Maybe some are. But someone did something right with a lot of posters on AFF. There are still folks who put God and His work first.

And for that I am grateful.





No regrets.


PP

J-Roc
06-19-2007, 09:15 AM
My wife has never worked a full time job because we chose to raise our kids without daycare.


I assume you didn't mean it this way, but just to put things in proper perspective...you're wife has always worked a full-time job as a Manager in the Home Economics Deptartment at Poster International...household management is the toughest job on the planet and she works harder than you and I combined....my wife, is also a Manager of Home Economics at J-Roc Empire and we also find it supremely important for her to be home raising the children.... :shockamoo

Steve Epley
06-19-2007, 09:17 AM
I said all of that to say this, Is sacrifice ugly, or beautiful?

When you look back over your life and view all of the things you have sacrificed, does it bother you or fill you with joy? Do you regret the life you have lived and feel like you have missed out on something, or do you rejoice at the opportunities God has given you to minister?

I have read Sister Alvear's posts in the past month and literally bawled at the sacrifice and extreme burden she has for souls and the Kingdom work. I read Sherri's post this week about selling their home so that they could give more to the Kingdom. It floored me.

We so often hear that Americans are lazy and selfish and godless. Maybe some are. But someone did something right with a lot of posters on AFF. There are still folks who put God and His work first.

And for that I am grateful.





No regrets.


PP

Very inspiring. My father is a multi-millionare Charismatic preacher I should have been the heir apparent many times finances particulary in my early years and some in the latter have been trying but God has always made a way. I am NOT sorry and have NO regrets. I live in a nice house now and drive a nice car but everything is in His hands. I own nothing it is all His. I belong to Him He bought me.

Nahum
06-19-2007, 09:20 AM
I assume you didn't mean it this way, but just to put things in proper perspective...you're wife has always worked a full-time job as a Manager in the Home Economics Deptartment at Poster International...household management is the toughest job on the planet and she works harder than you and I combined....my wife, is also a Manager of Home Economics at J-Roc Empire and we also find it supremely important for her to be home raising the children.... :shockamoo


Agreed.

But J, we are not like everyone else. We chose a different lifestyle. I am not saying anything bad about women who work outside the home. My point was that sacrifice pays dividends.

There are many things we went without. Time with our kids and a very close family not among them. My kids are almost grown but again, no regrets.

Nahum
06-19-2007, 09:23 AM
Very inspiring. My father is a multi-millionare Charismatic preacher I should have been the heir apparent many times finances particulary in my early years and some in the latter have been trying but God has always made a way. I am NOT sorry and have NO regrets. I live in a nice house now and drive a nice car but everything is in His hands. I won nothing it is all His. I belong to Him He bought me.

I had no idea that was your history. Amazing.

revrandy
06-19-2007, 09:25 AM
Very inspiring. My father is a multi-millionare Charismatic preacher I should have been the heir apparent many times finances particulary in my early years and some in the latter have been trying but God has always made a way. I am NOT sorry and have NO regrets. I live in a nice house now and drive a nice car but everything is in His hands. I won nothing it is all His. I belong to Him He bought me.

For some reason your post made me think...

There are some men that Owe the World much for their blessings... and some men own God much for theirs...

had I my druthers... I would rather owe God much for what HE has done for me than the World anyday!!

J-Roc
06-19-2007, 09:26 AM
I left a good job to do so. It was not hard to do. I just followed what I had been shown by my parents. I turned down an offer for over $100 K to stay at the warehousing job and instead chose to go plant a church (crazy, I know).

My wife worked at a top global investment bank and left behind the same cash you did once our daughter, Sofia, was born...our children are more valuable than riches....and God has blessed us through and through...we don't feel financially strapped as a result of her leaving corporate america...and their is still room for savings...by applying sound financial principles throughout our marriage, we have monthly passive income nearing $1000 aside from my salary...this is a testament that when we apply sound biblical principles, the Lord provides a way.

J-Roc
06-19-2007, 09:29 AM
Agreed.

But J, we are not like everyone else. We chose a different lifestyle. I am not saying anything bad about women who work outside the home. My point was that sacrifice pays dividends.

There are many things we went without. Time with our kids and a very close family not among them. My kids are almost grown but again, no regrets.


Bolded statement above.....PRICELESS!!!

Nahum
06-19-2007, 09:30 AM
My wife worked at a top global investment bank and left behind the same cash you did once our daughter, Sofia, was born...our children are more valuable than riches....and God has blessed us through and through...we don't feel financially strapped as a result of her leaving corporate america...and their is still room for savings...by applying sound financial principles throughout our marriage, we have monthly passive income nearing $1000 aside from my salary...this is a testament that when we apply sound biblical principles, the Lord provides a way.

That's true J.

I'm not where you are financially but God is good. The church we planted is completely self-sufficient financially and our finances have really began to flourish in the past couple of years.

Kutless
06-19-2007, 09:48 AM
For some reason your post made me think...

There are some men that Owe the World much for their blessings... and some men own God much for theirs...

had I my druthers... I would rather owe God much for what HE has done for me than the World anyday!!Great words Bro Randy!


PP thanks for posting this. I thought it was inspiring as well. Only what we do fro Christ will last. Thanks for some perspective.

Steve Epley
06-19-2007, 09:57 AM
When we die the millionare and the poorest get the same piece of real estate a plot in the cementary.

Ronzo
06-19-2007, 10:55 AM
You guys are making me weepy and inspiring me at the same time...

CC1
06-19-2007, 11:52 AM
PeePee,

Love the thread and the posts are inspiring. Like you my wife and I chose living with a lower standard of living when raising our children so that she could be a stay at home mom for them. The few times she had a part time job it was scheduled so that she was only away when the kids were at school.

We didn't have the fine home and many of the luxuries our peers had but they had those things usually at the expense of the mom being a full time mom.

I always made decent money, often times more than my peers but most of them had wives working and when you added both incomes together it surpassed miine by enough to alter one's lifestyle.

CC1
06-19-2007, 11:54 AM
PeePee,

I forgot to add such a shame your sister is worshipping "another God" (LOL)

Nahum
06-19-2007, 11:56 AM
PeePee,

I forgot to add such a shame your sister is worshipping "another God" (LOL)

That's why I rarely get into theology on AFF. I've argued all of this stuff for years. She is a certified Bapticostal.

mizpeh
06-19-2007, 12:18 PM
That's why I rarely get into theology on AFF. I've argued all of this stuff for years. She is a certified Bapticostal.

But your arguments on MOW's tritheism thread are really good. You should get involved more often.

What's a Bapticostal?

CC1
06-19-2007, 12:19 PM
But your arguments on MOW's tritheism thread are really good. You should get involved more often.

What's a Bapticostal?

Baptiscostal = See Christ Church Nashville:killinme

QueenEsther
06-19-2007, 12:25 PM
You guys are making me weepy and inspiring me at the same time...

I agree. It is funny how God can speak to us. I have felt that for the past few weeks he has been trying to teach me to be more positive and how to learn to sacrifice. After reading this thread it has opened my eyes up to a few things....thanks!

QueenEsther
06-19-2007, 12:27 PM
PeePee,

Love the thread and the posts are inspiring. Like you my wife and I chose living with a lower standard of living when raising our children so that she could be a stay at home mom for them. The few times she had a part time job it was scheduled so that she was only away when the kids were at school.

We didn't have the fine home and many of the luxuries our peers had but they had those things usually at the expense of the mom being a full time mom.

I always made decent money, often times more than my peers but most of them had wives working and when you added both incomes together it surpassed miine by enough to alter one's lifestyle.


Unfortunately I work - due to finances - we still dont have much - my husband works for our church full time - the pay isn't the best but the blessings are more than you can imagine. Our car is falling apart and our wardrobes consist of Wal-mart clearance itemss! Lol!! But that is ok, I feel we are where God wants us, why? I am not sure yet but I know we are where we should be. I have let the Lord know my desires and I believe one day when the time is right I may get them.

Nahum
06-19-2007, 12:31 PM
But your arguments on MOW's tritheism thread are really good. You should get involved more often.

What's a Bapticostal?


She believes like many of the posters on AFF. That the Godhead is not explainable or definable. That baptism is not necessary. That when submitted to it doesn't matter if it is by immersion or what is said at all.

She is oneness and trinitarian. She prays in His name, but doesn't care to baptize in it. You know, typical anti-absolute stuff.

Miz, for years I would go home at Christmas and get shot at (figuratively) for holding to what I knew as truth. My entire family backslid when I was 17. I, and I alone, am left among them.

Nahum
06-19-2007, 12:32 PM
I agree. It is funny how God can speak to us. I have felt that for the past few weeks he has been trying to teach me to be more positive and how to learn to sacrifice. After reading this thread it has opened my eyes up to a few things....thanks!

This post made my day!

revrandy
06-19-2007, 12:59 PM
I think that if we were all able to go overseas and see how people of third world countries survive we would have a greater appreciation for what we have here... regardless of our circumstances...

To see how folks live over there is life-changing to say the least...

PP.. Thanks for opening up some good Stuff today... to help folks see...

Nahum
06-19-2007, 01:11 PM
I think that if we were all able to go overseas and see how people of third world countries survive we would have a greater appreciation for what we have here... regardless of our circumstances...

To see how folks live over there is life-changing to say the least...

PP.. Thanks for opening up some good Stuff today... to help folks see...

My wife gives that example often.

Reading Sis Alvear's posts makes me feel ashamed of myself.

Ronzo
06-19-2007, 01:14 PM
Reading Sis Alvear's posts makes me feel ashamed of myself.
I know what you mean.

Steve Epley
06-19-2007, 01:38 PM
I have been to Brazil-Haiti-Mexico and had scores of Missionaries in my home we Americans are wealthy compared to most of the world. We complain when the air goes out or the mashed potatoes are lumpy or the steak is too done or
the light bill is too high.
Being unthankful is a symptom of the end-time.

I want to be grateful and thankful in this ungrateful age. God is good all the time.

J-Roc
06-19-2007, 02:06 PM
I have been to Brazil-Haiti-Mexico and had scores of Missionaries in my home we Americans are wealthy compared to most of the world. We complain when the air goes out or the mashed potatoes are lumpy or the steak is too done or
the light bill is too high.
Being unthankful is a symptom of the end-time.

I want to be grateful and thankful in this ungrateful age. God is good all the time.

:highfive

This is unusual for me to agree with you so much in a 24 hr time span.....glad you are becoming more like me... :killinme

TalkLady
06-19-2007, 03:34 PM
Throughout our years of living for God, we have given tithes and offerings and supported missionaries....We've helped pay other people's utility bills and gone miles out of the way to pick up people and take them to church. (When it was a real burden on us.)...We've worked in store fronts and we've helped people who were establishing new works. We've cleaned churches, cooked for special dinners, mowed yards, knocked on doors, taught Bible studies, etc. etc.......We've borrowed money a few times to be able to pay commitments. God has repaid us many times over. Children witness the sacrifice made. This is something that mold them.....Servants are supposed to work and they are supposed to sacrifice. ....Living for God is so much more than a job - but if you chose to look at it that way, it's part of the job description.

LadyCoonskinner
06-20-2007, 01:01 AM
Throughout our years of living for God, we have given tithes and offerings and supported missionaries....We've helped pay other people's utility bills and gone miles out of the way to pick up people and take them to church. (When it was a real burden on us.)...We've worked in store fronts and we've helped people who were establishing new works. We've cleaned churches, cooked for special dinners, mowed yards, knocked on doors, taught Bible studies, etc. etc.......We've borrowed money a few times to be able to pay commitments. God has repaid us many times over. Children witness the sacrifice made. This is something that mold them.....Servants are supposed to work and they are supposed to sacrifice. ....Living for God is so much more than a job - but if you chose to look at it that way, it's part of the job description.

That is supposed to be the spirit we, as Christians, possess. But so many times we forget that.

We have a tendency to think, "Hey, I've "sacrificed" for God and He's supposed to step on the scene and bless me. " And then the attitude of unthankfulness rears it's ugly head and then takes a hold of us and we soooo unaware of what is really going on.

I know, I've been there the last few days. Thought these very thoughts and felt some pretty "un-Christian" thoughts, and held on to some pretty unholy attitudes.

So, I say thank you, all of you, who have posted on this thread, for the gentle reminder.

Barb
06-20-2007, 01:37 AM
That is supposed to be the spirit we, as Christians, possess. But so many times we forget that.

We have a tendency to think, "Hey, I've "sacrificed" for God and He's supposed to step on the scene and bless me. " And then the attitude of unthankfulness rears it's ugly head and then takes a hold of us and we soooo unaware of what is really going on.

I know, I've been there the last few days. Thought these very thoughts and felt some pretty "un-Christian" thoughts, and held on to some pretty unholy attitudes.

So, I say thank you, all of you, who have posted on this thread, for the gentle reminder.It's threads like this and posts like yours, LCS, that help me to realize the worth of these forums.

The thing that is so easy to forget is that God does see it all...the sacrifice and weariness...He knows it all.

But experience has taught me that the words of the Bishop are true...God will train us our entire life for a moment...a season of service. And in our willingness to submit and yield to His will, He makes provision and gives the necessary grace and strength.

What a tremendous blessing it is to know that we are not out there alone...:)

TalkLady
06-20-2007, 08:24 AM
That is supposed to be the spirit we, as Christians, possess. But so many times we forget that.

We have a tendency to think, "Hey, I've "sacrificed" for God and He's supposed to step on the scene and bless me. " And then the attitude of unthankfulness rears it's ugly head and then takes a hold of us and we soooo unaware of what is really going on.

I know, I've been there the last few days. Thought these very thoughts and felt some pretty "un-Christian" thoughts, and held on to some pretty unholy attitudes.

So, I say thank you, all of you, who have posted on this thread, for the gentle reminder.


Don't get weary in well-doing, LadyC....I've found this is a good place to come to vent....I've been weary myself lately - but I'm looking at my life and feel that I am in the process of going from "strength to strength" which should mean going from one level of success (or closeness to God) to a higher level of success (or being even closer to God and knowing His will)...I'm trying not to look at the times I feel weak between the strength to strength times.

Remember this verse:

They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God - Psalms 84:7.

I love this song - SPEAK TO THE MOUNTAIN

1. From strength to strength we sometimes go, then again we're sinking low,
In the shadow of a mountain looming high above our heads.
We need not fear what lies ahead for the Word has clearly said,
That our faith would be sufficient to make the mountain disappear.

Speak to the mountain, you'll not triumph over me.
Be thou removed from here to yonder disappear into the sea.
Speak to the mountain, speak with authority
And the mountain must move, and you shall claim victory.

2. In the midst of the battle, when the foe is gaining ground,
Look up and see the mighty hand of God reaching down.
Speak God's name, Satan trembles, speak God's word and watch him flee,
Once again our God delivers, the mountain crumbles at our feet.

Speak to the mountain, you'll not triumph over me.
Be thou removed from here to yonder disappear into the sea.
Speak to the mountain, speak with authority
And the mountain must move, and you shall claim victory.

AMEN.

ILG
06-20-2007, 09:05 AM
I said all of that to say this, Is sacrifice ugly, or beautiful?

When you look back over your life and view all of the things you have sacrificed, does it bother you or fill you with joy? Do you regret the life you have lived and feel like you have missed out on something, or do you rejoice at the opportunities God has given you to minister?



I have mixed feelings about the sacrifices we have made. We were in Home Missions 5 years and the church is still there.....we still have some bills left from that...we left there more than 7 years ago. Then we were in an established church that blew up while we were there. I feel good in a way about the Home Missions church. I never, ever regretted it while we were there. I guess what I regret is not doing it, but putting so much into the works we were at and into the ministry only to leave it all. We definately feel that we followed God in leaving. I expect He will bless us in the long run for doing what we believe is right. But it didn't turn out like we thought it would. The second church we pastored, I still am sometimes reeling from. The sacrifices were more in a spiritual warfare setting. My husband and I left there with a lot of health problems. The stress was so great it was unbelievable.

So, I don't regret serving God at all. I don't have a problem with making sacrifices. What hurts me is pouring it all in for 19 years and then walking away. Some will say "That's your own fault and your own choice", but I say it isn't. Yes, we chose to walk away, but we had to to keep our integrity when our beliefs had changed. We could have stayed and pulled the church out. I'm not saying those who do are wrong, but it wasn't right for us.

ILG
06-20-2007, 09:10 AM
I stayed home with our kids....I have never regretted that. Things were always very tight, but you can't trade that time with your kids for anything.

CC1
06-20-2007, 09:20 AM
Unfortunately I work - due to finances - we still dont have much - my husband works for our church full time - the pay isn't the best but the blessings are more than you can imagine. Our car is falling apart and our wardrobes consist of Wal-mart clearance itemss! Lol!! But that is ok, I feel we are where God wants us, why? I am not sure yet but I know we are where we should be. I have let the Lord know my desires and I believe one day when the time is right I may get them.

QE,

Your post reminded me of a recent conversation where a relative was relating how some guy one of our young female relatives had dated had put down shopping at Ross or TJ Max because the merchandise was "seconds".

I laughed and said he definitely would not fit in our family because if he didn't like those stores he surely wasn't going to like Wal Mart and we practically live there!

QueenEsther
06-20-2007, 09:58 AM
That is supposed to be the spirit we, as Christians, possess. But so many times we forget that.

We have a tendency to think, "Hey, I've "sacrificed" for God and He's supposed to step on the scene and bless me. " And then the attitude of unthankfulness rears it's ugly head and then takes a hold of us and we soooo unaware of what is really going on.

I know, I've been there the last few days. Thought these very thoughts and felt some pretty "un-Christian" thoughts, and held on to some pretty unholy attitudes.

So, I say thank you, all of you, who have posted on this thread, for the gentle reminder.

Amen!! Awhile back we had 2 older vehicles for sale - an older mini van and an old chevy truck (I think they were both 70 somethings) and we wanted to sell them becuase we really weren't using them and we could use the extra money - anyways, there is a young man in our youth group who's family is not in church and they are dirt poor and his car broke down and he didn't have the money to get it fixed so my husband gave him our old van. And believe me the van is nothing nice at all!! It is OLD and a hoopty! But it would have been an extra $500. in our pocket. My first reaction was "No, we could use that money!!" but I didn't say that and just about as soon as I thought it, I felt sooooo guilty and I knew that my husband had done the right thing. I guess this is just something I am struggling with and I feel that God is trying to change me and I want him to so I am doing my best to allow him to.

Thanks again PP for this thread.......

QueenEsther
06-20-2007, 09:59 AM
QE,

Your post reminded me of a recent conversation where a relative was relating how some guy one of our young female relatives had dated had put down shopping at Ross or TJ Max because the merchandise was "seconds".

I laughed and said he definitely would not fit in our family because if he didn't like those stores he surely wasn't going to like Wal Mart and we practically live there!

Lol! Yep! We practically live there also!!

Scott Hutchinson
06-20-2007, 10:02 AM
Thanks PP for posting for some decent and High quality posts here on AFF.
We need more threads like this.