Sermon: "Queer Sounding Music and Skinny Jeans"

[n david]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N-esupOWJ8

[Aquila]

I've been in house churches too long. We primarily were singing hymns. What does "queer music" sound like? Lol

[n david]

I've been in house churches too long. We primarily were singing hymns. What does "queer music" sound like? Lol

Jesus is my boyfriend songs, guys singing falsetto, breathy singing stuff.

[n david]

He played "Refiner's Fire" by some worship leader side by side with "I want it that way" by the Backstreet Boys and attacked the similar lyrics.

Worship Song:
Refiner's fire
My heart's one desire

Secular Song:
You are my fire
The one desire
Believe when I say
I want it that way

[houston]

Jesus is my boyfriend songs, guys singing falsetto, breathy singing stuff.


Breathy singing is a turn off. I said it like that on purpose. A brother played a song by some woman, I don’t recall who she is. Probably linked to Bethel or some other heretical group. She was breathy and it was weird. My first impression, she was close to orgasm.

It was gross. I can’t believe the things that pass for christianity.

[Evang.Benincasa]

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[n david]

Breathy singing is a turn off. I said it like that on purpose. A brother played a song by some woman, I don’t recall who she is. Probably linked to Bethel or some other heretical group. She was breathy and it was weird. My first impression, she was close to orgasm.

It was gross. I can’t believe the things that pass for christianity.


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[houston]

What’s more disconcerting is that apostolics listen to this mess. These are people that have stated to me that their gift is discernment.

[CC1]

Let's not forget this preacher has facial hair so clearly he cannot be trusted.

[Aquila]

He played "Refiner's Fire" by some worship leader side by side with "I want it that way" by the Backstreet Boys and attacked the similar lyrics.

Worship Song:
Refiner's fire
My heart's one desire

Secular Song:
You are my fire
The one desire
Believe when I say
I want it that way

I must be out of touch. When I attended institutional church, the music wasn't like that. I remember a song, "This is the air I breathe", or maybe it was called, "Desperate for you", is that a boyfriend song? Lol

[Aquila]

Breathy singing is a turn off. I said it like that on purpose. A brother played a song by some woman, I don’t recall who she is. Probably linked to Bethel or some other heretical group. She was breathy and it was weird. My first impression, she was close to orgasm.

It was gross. I can’t believe the things that pass for christianity.


Wow. That's crazy.

[Aquila]

Let's not forget this preacher has facial hair so clearly he cannot be trusted.

Lol

[n david]

I must be out of touch. When I attended institutional church, the music wasn't like that. I remember a song, "This is the air I breathe", or maybe it was called, "Desperate for you", is that a boyfriend song? Lol
Yes, one of the well known ones.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Yes, one of the well known ones.

Aquila loved singing those songs.

[Aquila]

Aquila loved singing those songs.

Actually, I'm the old fashioned hymn kinda guy. I never liked the "bang clang" gospel style, nor the boyfriend songs. One of my favorite albums is Selah's Greatest Hymns. I do like some of the contemporary stuff, but I really like hymns.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NChRAD1-z_s&list=PLbkud7iK_0YVCwoX2dUWCJgGuzP_amkgA

[jediwill83]

Actually, I'm the old fashioned hymn kinda guy. I never liked the "bang clang" gospel style, nor the boyfriend songs. One of my favorite albums is Selah's Greatest Hymns. I do like some of the contemporary stuff, but I really like hymns.


Love Selah. Fernando Ortega and Michael Card are great as well.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NChRAD1-z_s&list=PLbkud7iK_0YVCwoX2dUWCJgGuzP_amkgA


Love Selah. Fernando Ortega and Michael Card are great as well.

[Aquila]

Love Selah. Fernando Ortega and Michael Card are great as well.

I like Ortega and Card also. Good stuff.

[CC1]

My church's music ministry (Experience Music) pretty much checks all of the boxes for what traditional church folks hate about modern church music. Except perhaps that we are very careful about what songs we sing in regards to lyrics that speak truth.

Our band does have guys in skinny jeans, girls in pants and jewelry as well as a fair amount of tattoos showing. Plenty for old time Pentecostals to gripe about and ridicule!

Here is a link to the opening song from our Praise & Worship night a few days ago at our local University.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsBpu_bo8M

[Jason B]

My church's music ministry (Experience Music) pretty much checks all of the boxes for what traditional church folks hate about modern church music. Except perhaps that we are very careful about what songs we sing in regards to lyrics that speak truth.

Our band does have guys in skinny jeans, girls in pants and jewelry as well as a fair amount of tattoos showing. Plenty for old time Pentecostals to gripe about and ridicule!

Here is a link to the opening song from our Praise & Worship night a few days ago at our local University.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsBpu_bo8M

Next!

[Scott Pitta]

Michael Card wrote and produced some great music. Not sure I ever heard it played in church. Andre Crouch and Keith Green were at one time quite popular.

I still hear some Keith Green music played in church.

Variation in style or age (or language) does not bother me. Repeating a chorus more than twice is unacceptable.

[Apostolic1ness]

My church's music ministry (Experience Music) pretty much checks all of the boxes for what traditional church folks hate about modern church music. Except perhaps that we are very careful about what songs we sing in regards to lyrics that speak truth.

Our band does have guys in skinny jeans, girls in pants and jewelry as well as a fair amount of tattoos showing. Plenty for old time Pentecostals to gripe about and ridicule!

Here is a link to the opening song from our Praise & Worship night a few days ago at our local University.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsBpu_bo8M

So your not Pentecostal I get it.

[JoeBandy]

My church's music ministry (Experience Music) pretty much checks all of the boxes for what traditional church folks hate about modern church music. Except perhaps that we are very careful about what songs we sing in regards to lyrics that speak truth.

Our band does have guys in skinny jeans, girls in pants and jewelry as well as a fair amount of tattoos showing. Plenty for old time Pentecostals to gripe about and ridicule!

Here is a link to the opening song from our Praise & Worship night a few days ago at our local University.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsBpu_bo8M

I can handle the skinny jeans and the tats. The music and lyrics both are good. But..... A HAT …… indoors pure disrespect!!! Plus what does the scripture say about a man praying with his head covered??!!!!

[Esaias]

Repeating a chorus more than twice is unacceptable.

So, Psalm 136 is unacceptable. Got it.

[Michael The Disciple]

Michael Card wrote and produced some great music. Not sure I ever heard it played in church. Andre Crouch and Keith Green were at one time quite popular.

I still hear some Keith Green music played in church.

Variation in style or age (or language) does not bother me. Repeating a chorus more than twice is unacceptable.

Yea you wont hear much music like THIS played in Church!

The Lamb Is A Lion-Michael Card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPzlfftStkE

[CC1]

I can handle the skinny jeans and the tats. The music and lyrics both are good. But..... A HAT …… indoors pure disrespect!!! Plus what does the scripture say about a man praying with his head covered??!!!!

Sorry JB!

[Esaias]

Yea you wont hear much music like THIS played in Church!

The Lamb Is A Lion-Michael Card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPzlfftStkE

Music in the church is for the purpose of teaching the Word of God, and it is to be primarily congregational singing. The song you posted has some Biblically questionable lyrics, and the melody is not really suitable for congregational singing. It might be good for someone's "special song" ie a solo presentation.

But I see no reason why THIS song is some kind of censored super-truth-anointed song as you seem to be suggesting.

Too many people judge these things based entirely on what tickles their personal fancy instead of thinking Biblically and rationally about it.

Oh, and by the way, it's actually a pretty decent song. So I'm not basing my statements on my personal like or dislike of the style or sound quality, etc. Not all Christian music is suitable for congregational worship.

[Apostolic1ness]

Music in the church is for the purpose of teaching the Word of God, and it is to be primarily congregational singing. The song you posted has some Biblically questionable lyrics, and the melody is not really suitable for congregational singing. It might be good for someone's "special song" ie a solo presentation.

But I see no reason why THIS song is some kind of censored super-truth-anointed song as you seem to be suggesting.

Too many people judge these things based entirely on what tickles their personal fancy instead of thinking Biblically and rationally about it.

Oh, and by the way, it's actually a pretty decent song. So I'm not basing my statements on my personal like or dislike of the style or sound quality, etc. Not all Christian music is suitable for congregational worship.

What manuscripts are you using to say that music in the church is just for teaching the word. What about lifting up and exalting God, singing praises?

[Michael The Disciple]

Scott said:

Michael Card wrote and produced some great music. Not sure I ever heard it played in church.

I said:

Yea you wont hear much music like THIS played in Church!

I was agreeing with him. I think its a great teaching song, nonetheless it would be seen as a "solo" and then only in a rare Church.

[Esaias]

What manuscripts are you using to say that music in the church is just for teaching the word. What about lifting up and exalting God, singing praises?

What posts are you using to say I said "just"? Also, how is lifting up and praising God not teaching the Word?

[Apostolic1ness]

What posts are you using to say I said "just"? Also, how is lifting up and praising God not teaching the Word?

"Music in the church is for the purpose of teaching the Word of God"

There are many praise and worship songs that dont teach the Word of God yet they are still lifting up Jesus. You dont believe this?

Psalm 150 is a song. Was it used to teach law or doctrine or any other teaching. Was it not primarily used to simply praise God?

[Esaias]

"Music in the church is for the purpose of teaching the Word of God"

There are many praise and worship songs that dont teach the Word of God yet they are still lifting up Jesus. You dont believe this?

Psalm 150 is a song. Was it used to teach law or doctrine or any other teaching. Was it not primarily used to simply praise God?

Psalm 150 IS the Word of God.

Colossians 3:16 explains the purpose of music in the assembly.

[Apostolic1ness]

Psalm 150 IS the Word of God.

Colossians 3:16 explains the purpose of music in the assembly.

duly noted.