I Value Anonymity. Why Demand Otherwise?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Besides, there are others here with multiple screen names. And even if I was the only one, I would only divulge another screen name. That's it. You still wouldn't know who I am. I have provided a clue in my signature line-- an excerpt from a post from last week. I haven't said or done anything to warrant the demand to reveal and I DEFINITELY have done nothing to apologize for. This is a precedent that would not be easy to enforce across the board. Please reconsider your demands-- in the name of fairness.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I have contacted Admin.
I request this thread to be closed.

[houston]

What is your former screen name? That’s a good starting point.

[1ofthechosen]

Besides, there are others here with multiple screen names. And even if I was the only one, I would only divulge another screen name. That's it. You still wouldn't know who I am. I have provided a clue in my signature line-- an excerpt from a post from last week. I haven't said or done anything to warrant the demand to reveal and I DEFINITELY have done nothing to apologize for. This is a precedent that would not be easy to enforce across the board. Please reconsider your demands-- in the name of fairness.

https://media.giphy.com/media/4Ya8UtZz4PEuk/giphy.gif

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I have contacted Admin.
I request this thread to be closed.
I have nothing further to say.
Have a good night.

[houston]

byyyeeeeee

[1ofthechosen]

I have contacted Admin.
I request this thread to be closed.
I have nothing further to say.
Have a good night.

You do realize Admin was who requested a answer do you not? No one is going to answer a riddle to find out who you are, although I've stated over and over what I believe. I think you have many altar ego's but which one is really you is the question. I wonder how many Facebook's you have, and how many aliases are on your credit report?

[Amanah]

Golden State . . . you live in California?
Love here, live afar . . . you don't love the person you live with?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I am not a volunteer,
No I don't sing the blues.
I am not a feminized Ronald,
or a lawyer-- here's a clue.

Some AFF travelers have homes,
on the invisible short waves.
This traveler has no radio,
Yet he used before NSA,
Before that fateful day,
Before everything changed.

Large fish, small pond.
He asks deeper questions,
and others can't respond
without taking offense.

Most who knew me are gone.

Golden state of copper
alone under star,
Servant leader. Soul seeker.
Love here. Live afar.

Have you ever visited Missouri,
Indianapolis or eastern shore?
I viewed Sister Alex from a distance,
but Greensboro-- at her front door.

For those who remain,
you know me net well.
Security I provided,
and the Gospel-- never for sell.

My name is not biblical.
Nevertheless I am well-versed
in the Book that brings water.
Around here, not the first.
to be openly criticized,
misrepresented, misunderstood.
You know my thoughts well?
Then who am I?
Or better-- who are you?

[jediwill83]

I am not a volunteer,
No I don't sing the blues.
I am not a feminized Ronald,
or a lawyer-- here's a clue.

Some AFF travelers have homes,
on the invisible waves.
But this traveler has no home,
large fish, small pond.
He asks deeper questions,
and others can't respond
without taking offense.

Most who knew me are gone.

Golden state of copper
alone under star,
Servant leader. Soul seeker.
Love here. Live afar.

Have you ever visited Missouri,
Indianapolis or eastern shore?
I viewed Sister Alex from a distance,
but Greensboro-- at her front door.

For those who remain,
you know me net well.
Security I provided,
and the Gospel-- never for sell.

My name is not biblical.
Nevertheless I am well-versed
in the Book that brings water.
Around here, not the first.
to be openly criticized,
misrepresented, misunderstood.
Some know my thoughts well,
But who am I?
Or better-- who are you?


The only thing you seem to value or take pride in is the amount of drama you cause.



This forum is a voluntary association and with that voluntary association there are rules and people here to enforce those rules...it's not a heaven or hell thing...just gotta obey them to stay here. What Admin says goes.



I have no healthy interest in digging through all your posts finding word clues to figure out exactly who you are. I have a wife, kid and life that is much more interesting...further more Im taking some steps back from all the debate and arguments on here.

[Aquila]

I used to go by my actual name on this forum. However, years ago I had my Jeep keyed, and I was harassed by a few brothers in the church parking lot for questioning the Bush Administration's policies (I voted for President G.W. Bush against Al Gore). On the second go around, I was critical of Bush. It caused problems. So, I started using the handle "Aquila".

To request that someone disclose who they are is a form of threat. Because it can be an issue of personal safety. It can also put a chill on the freedom with which we share our views and opinions. Since some opinions aren't popular, it can even affect a career or ministry.

As a forum community, I'd recommend resisting all efforts to violate anonymity with extreme prejudice.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

The only thing you seem to value or take pride in is the amount of drama you cause.



This forum is a voluntary association and with that voluntary association there are rules and people here to enforce those rules...it's not a heaven or hell thing...just gotta obey them to stay here. What Admin says goes.



I have no healthy interest in digging through all your posts finding word clues to figure out exactly who you are. I have a wife, kid and life that is much more interesting...further more Im taking some steps back from all the debate and arguments on here.



You're wrong about me creating and enjoying drama.
I DON'T want you to waste your time digging.
I am beung cryptic because I don't want to reveal my identity.
No one else is being asked to do that and even if we were, it is completely unnecessary.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I used to go by my actual name on this forum. However, years ago I had my Jeep keyed, and I was harassed by a few brothers in the church parking lot for questioning the Bush Administration's policies (I voted for President G.W. Bush against Al Gore). On the second go around, I was critical of Bush. It caused problems. So, I started using the handle "Aquila".

To request that someone disclose who they are is a form of threat. Because it can be an issue of personal safety. It can also put a chill on the freedom with which we share our views and opinions. Since some opinions aren't popular, it can even affect a career or ministry.

As a forum community, I'd recommend resisting all efforts to violate anonymity with extreme prejudice.


Thamk you.
Even revealing former screen names can be tricky once people decipher certain information connected to the former screen name.

[aegsm76]

You're wrong about me creating and enjoying drama.
I DON'T want you to waste your time digging.
I am beung cryptic because I don't want to reveal my identity.
No one else is being asked to do that and even if we wete, it is vompletely unnecessary.

So, do you or have you had multiple screen names on this forum?
I really do not care who you are, but if you have multiple screen names you need to own up.

[aegsm76]

You're wrong about me creating and enjoying drama.
I DON'T want you to waste your time digging.
I am beung cryptic because I don't want to reveal my identity.
No one else is being asked to do that and even if we wete, it is vompletely unnecessary.

Then stop being cryptic.

[Aquila]

Then stop being cryptic.

Please post your real name and address... or... shut up and value your anonymity with the rest of us. LOL

[jfrog]

I’ve missed something. What happened and where can I find it?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

You need to come clean about who you are and what your former screen-name used to be, or you are history. You have until Saturday 5pm CST. Create a new thread, say who you are, and apologize for the duplicity.



The only thing you seem to value or take pride in is the amount of drama you cause.



This forum is a voluntary association and with that voluntary association there are rules and people here to enforce those rules...it's not a heaven or hell thing...just gotta obey them to stay here. What Admin says goes.



I have no healthy interest in digging through all your posts finding word clues to figure out exactly who you are. I have a wife, kid and life that is much more interesting...further more Im taking some steps back from all the debate and arguments on here.


JediWill,
VotiveSoul asked me to start a thread divulging my identity and demanded an apology. That is the only reason why I started this thread.

I maintain that this request is unfair and inconsistent.

[houston]

Start with posting your other user name

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Start with posting your other user name

That request is unfair and inconsistent with how AFF has treated other posters for YEARS up to this point. I have not broken any rules. The request is unnecessary.

[Pressing-On]

That request is unfair and inconsistent with how AFF has treated other posters for YEARS up to this point. I have not broken any rules. The request is unnecessary.

No one asked for your real name. They are asking if you are also Rachel Rose. Apparently, you have denied that claim and, apparently, a lot of people don't believe you.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

You need to come clean about who you are and what your former screen-name used to be, or you are history. You have until Saturday 5pm CST. Create a new thread, say who you are, and apologize for the duplicity.


Start with posting your other user name

I would like for you to state your name, state your former screen name, and apologize for being duplicitous.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

You need to come clean about who you are and what your former screen-name used to be, or you are history. You have until Saturday 5pm CST. Create a new thread, say who you are, and apologize for the duplicity.

No one asked for your real name. They are asking if you are also Rachel Rose. Apparently, you have denied that claim and, apparently, a lot of people don't believe you.

He is asking for my name, former screen name, and for an apology for being duplicitous.

This request is unfair and inconsistent.

I am NOT Rachel Rose or Raymond Roosevelt or any other double "R" person.

[Aquila]

This is so freaking juvenile. Do you realize how many other forums would have just rolled their eyes and moved on?

If he created a screen name (RachelRose or anyone else) to stir the pot... who cares? With the way people twist things into the realm of total dishonesty here, you can't risk throwing down a hypothetical. Maybe the topic or angle of discussion was such that an additional screen name was necessary to shield the individual from the haters.

Anyway, who cares? lol Evidently the forum had some fun with it and he's clearly moved on.

Y'all need to lighten up around here.

But asking one to disclose who one is, is absolutely unsafe on the internet. And, if disclosing one's secondary screen name would reveal too much, that too can be unsafe.

The safest, most reasonable, and ethical way to go is to admonish anyone suspected of using an additional account to cease using any additional accounts, if that is a forum's policy. It's to the point, and preserves the anonymity and safety of the poster.

And for crying out loud... I've even been accused of being RachelRose. So... who gives a hoot?

At this point... we're all RachelRose. lol

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

This is so freaking juvenile. Do you realize how many other forums would have just rolled their eyes and moved on?

If he created a screen name (RachelRose or anyone else) to stir the pot... who cares? With the way people twist things into the realm of total dishonesty here, you can't risk throwing down a hypothetical. Maybe the topic or angle of discussion was such that an additional screen name was necessary to shield the individual from the haters.

Anyway, who cares? lol Evidently the forum had some fun with it and he's clearly moved on.

Y'all need to lighten up around here.

But asking one to disclose who one is, is absolutely unsafe on the internet. And, if disclosing one's secondary screen name would reveal too much, that too can be unsafe.

The safest, most reasonable, and ethical way to go is to admonish anyone suspected of using an additional account to cease using any additional accounts, if that is a forum's policy. It's to the point, and preserves the anonymity and safety of the poster.

And for crying out loud... I've even been accused of being RachelRose. So... who gives a hoot?

At this point... we're all RachelRose. lol


#metoo

[Pressing-On]

He is asking for my name, former screen name, and for an apology for being duplicitous.

This request is unfair and inconsistent.

I am NOT Rachel Rose or Raymond Roosevelt or any other double "R" person.

Okay, so you say. You aren't supposed to question Admin openly. I would suggest you speak to Votivesoul in a private PM.

[Pressing-On]

At this point... we're all RachelRose. lol

I am a woman, so I can't be RachelRose.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I have contacted Admin.
I request this thread to be closed.

I have contacted Admin.
I request this thread to be closed.
I have nothing further to say.
Have a good night.

Okay, so you say. You aren't supposed to question Admin openly. I would suggest you speak to Votivesoul in a private PM.


I have requested twice for this thread tp be closed. I have reached out to Admin via PM twice. I apologize for questioning Admin openly.

[Pressing-On]

I have requested twice for this thread tp be closed. I have reached out to Admin via PM twice. I apologize for questioning Admin openly.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[houston]

I would like for you to state your name, state your former screen name, and apologize for being duplicitous.

Everyone that’s important knows that I’m houston and berkeley. I have no apologies to offer.

[n david]

You're wrong about me creating and enjoying drama.
I DON'T want you to waste your time digging.
I am beung cryptic because I don't want to reveal my identity.
No one else is being asked to do that and even if we wete, it is vompletely unnecessary.
Please. Your whole existence as BB has been about creating and enjoying drama. This thread is a prime example of you creating and enjoying drama.

How many people on AFF did you PM asking if they knew who you were?

It appears Admin believes you're not being truthful and knows something, else it wouldn't have placed the demand. Not sure why Admin hasn't enforced the consequences, but I'm not Admin.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Everyone that’s important knows that I’m houston and berkeley. I have no apologies to offer.

I have offered an apology for questioning Admin openly. That ia the only apology I have to offer. You volunteered identity information-- but you didn't have to and you shouldn't have to. NEVERTHELESS, I noticed you didn't reveal your name, like I was asked.

[Aquila]

#metoo

:lol

[Aquila]

I am a woman, so I can't be RachelRose.

That doesn't disqualify have the haters around here. LOL

[Aquila]

I have requested twice for this thread tp be closed. I have reached out to Admin via PM twice. I apologize for questioning Admin openly.

Votive has guts and when he actually engages, he's pretty fair and understanding. I don't see you questioning the Admin per se. But rather what you believe the Admin is asking of you. If you misunderstood the Admin, it's better to post something like what you have posted than to comply and disclose anything that might compromise your safety.

It's pretty cut and dry to me.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Please. Your whole existence as BB has been about creating and enjoying drama. This thread is a prime example of you creating and enjoying drama.

How many people on AFF did you PM asking if they knew who you were?

It appears Admin believes you're not being truthful and knows something, else it wouldn't have placed the demand. Not sure why Admin hasn't enforced the consequences, but I'm not Admin.


:(
I asked several people if they knew my identity. I have not created and enjoyed drama anywhere.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Votive has guts and when he actually engages, he's pretty fair and understanding. I don't see you questioning the Admin per se. But rather what you believe the Admin is asking of you. If you misunderstood the Admin, it's better to post something like what you have posted than to comply and disclose anything that might compromise your safety.

It's pretty cut and dry to me.

Or my right to privacy.

[n david]

I used to go by my actual name on this forum. However, years ago I had my Jeep keyed, and I was harassed by a few brothers in the church parking lot for questioning the Bush Administration's policies (I voted for President G.W. Bush against Al Gore). On the second go around, I was critical of Bush. It caused problems. So, I started using the handle "Aquila".
Right. You had your real name on AFF, but guys from your church found here on here, harassed you and vandalized your vehicle, so you changed to "Aquila" so you could be anonymous...?

Slight problem with that...

1) Real pic for avatar
2) Photo album in profile
3) You've posted your name in your posts

Not very good at being anonymous.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I have contacted Admin.
I request this thread to be closed.

[houston]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOlrH6d7F58&feature=youtu.be

[n david]

it's better to post something like what you have posted than to comply and disclose anything that might compromise your safety.
Compromise its safety? Who do you think we are -- Democrat staffers???


Good grief.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOlrH6d7F58&feature=youtu.be

Currently, one of my faves!

[houston]

I bet. The one you sent me in a pm for some strange reason.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Compromise its safety? Who do you think we are -- Democrat staffers???


Good grief.

:chat

[Aquila]

Everyone that’s important knows that I’m houston and berkeley. I have no apologies to offer.

You're Houston and Berkeley??? LOL

You know, I had a cousin (who used to be a member here) come over to my house and he posted under my screen name or something. I'm still not even entirely sure what he posted to cause such a tiff. They threatened to ban me. LOL But they allow you to openly maintain two screen names???

I guess the rules apply more equally to some over others? :lol

If it struck midnight at this masquerade, we'd all be shocked.

I've always thought that a few of the screen names on here belong to one of the Admins. Because some of these have posted things that boarder on slander and libel, and they engage in the nastiest character defamation tactics... and they are NEVER called on it. Even if you report that it is bordering on harassment, not even a response. So, I chalk it up to those IDs just being the Admin's "bad cop" screen names to stir up the conversation a bit. LOL

[n david]

Or my right to privacy.
Disclosing additional AFF names is not an invasion of your privacy.

I'm not sure why AFF allows people to register multiple names. It really shouldn't. If a person wants to change their name, they should change their name and have the old name locked.

What about the right of people on AFF to know if they are debating one person using multiple names?

You don't have the right to post under multiple AFF names. Nor does anyone else.

I agree with Admin, you and every other person who uses multiple names on AFF need to post the screen names you all use.

Or Admin should do it for you all.

[jediwill83]

I don't believe admin was demanding your "real" name and info. They were wanting you to fess up for any and all sock accounts aka multiple online identities. Your refusal confirms their existence.

[Aquila]

:(
I asked several people if they knew my identity. I have not created and enjoyed drama anywhere.

One man's discussion is another man's drama. The biggest drama queen on this forum always jumps into the middle of a decent conversation and starts immediately going personal. But no one dare call that clickbait a drama queen. LOL You just post things that question tradition, or are a bit against the grain, and you're suddenly "Public Drama Queen #1". LOL

This place is hilarious. LOL

And they take it all so seriously!!! LOL

Half the people chasing you with torches and pitchforks have multiple user names!!! LOL

[n david]

I don't believe admin was demanding your "real" name and info. They were wanting you to fess up for any and all sock accounts aka multiple online identities. Your refusal confirms their existence.
Agreed. I also read that Admin was demanding the other AFF aliases used by BB, not a real name or real info.

[jediwill83]

BTW...this is the only screen name I use and it's always been that way. I ain't here to start mess with multiple accounts.

[Aquila]

Right. You had your real name on AFF, but guys from your church found here on here, harassed you and vandalized your vehicle, so you changed to "Aquila" so you could be anonymous...?

Slight problem with that...

1) Real pic for avatar
2) Photo album in profile
3) You've posted your name in your posts

Not very good at being anonymous.

My primary goal is to keep from people I know being able to query my full name and find everything I've ever posted. And my real pic looks far different from back in the day. Most don't recognize me when I walk past them on the street.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Disclosing additional AFF names is not an invasion of your privacy.

I'm not sure why AFF allows people to register multiple names. It really shouldn't. If a person wants to change their name, they should change their name and have the old name locked.

What about the right of people on AFF to know if they are debating one person using multiple names?

You don't have the right to post under multiple AFF names. Nor does anyone else.

I agree with Admin, you and every other person who uses multiple names on AFF need to post the screen names you all use.

Or Admin should do it for you all.

It can be when there is personal information that can be identifiable by the bringing up of a username from long ago.

I am not using multiple usernames now-- or ever, since AFF became AFF.



When you speak with Bucky, you are only speaking with one person. My former username has not been used for quite some time now. I don't even remember my log-in.

[Aquila]

Compromise its safety? Who do you think we are -- Democrat staffers???


Good grief.

And there's another mouthy goober who pays no price if someone throws a brick through your window and hits a kid.

Get over yourself. I've had my Jeep keyed, and harassed before. And it was based on a forum that was called Apostolic Man and this one. On both I used my real name. And apparently some folks didn't like what I had to say.

NDavid, if you disagree with anonymity being a safety feature... please post your full name, address, phone number, names in your household, and the school your kids go to.

Now, you and I know that only an idiot would do that. Because this is the internet. Safety is framed in anonymity.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

One man's discussion is another man's drama. The biggest drama queen on this forum always jumps into the middle of a decent conversation and starts immediately going personal. But no one dare call that clickbait a drama queen. LOL You just post things that question tradition, or are a bit against the grain, and you're suddenly "Public Drama Queen #1". LOL

This place is hilarious. LOL

And they take it all so seriously!!! LOL

Half the people chasing you with torches and pitchforks have multiple user names!!! LOL


:girlfriend
#ec-shactly

[Aquila]

I'm RachelRose. :lol

[Aquila]

:girlfriend
#ec-shactly

MmmmmHmmmm. lol

[n david]

And there's another mouthy goober who pays no price if someone throws a brick through your window and hits a kid.
What?

Get over yourself. I've had my Jeep keyed, and harassed before. And it was based on a forum that was called Apostolic Man and this one. On both I used my real name. And apparently some folks didn't like what I had to say.
Right. :dogpat

NDavid, if you disagree with anonymity being a safety feature... please post your full name, address, phone number, names in your household, and the school your kids go to.
1) Never said people shouldn't be allowed to be anonymous.
2) Admin isn't asking for this kind of info.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

You need to come clean about who you are

and what your former screen-name used to be,


or you are history.


You have until Saturday 5pm CST. Create a new thread, say who you are, and apologize for the duplicity.



I don't believe admin was demanding your "real" name and info. They were wanting you to fess up for any and all sock accounts aka multiple online identities. Your refusal confirms their existence.


Yes he is and even if he is asking for me to publicly divulge an old username, it would be an unfair and inconsistent request. This is my only usermame in use.

[Aquila]

Yes he is and even if he is asking for me to publicly divulge an old username, it would be an unfair and inconsistent request. This is my only usermame in use.

In all fairness, Votive said, "You need to come clean about who you are".

On first reading, that does appear to ask your real name, your true identity. But, in context, Votive might have only intended that you disclose all user names you've used.

It might just be a misunderstanding.

But, if personal information is under another user name that you wish to distance yourself from, it could be a compromising request. That puts you between a rock and a hard place.

That's why I think it's fair if you're asked to simply only use your current user name, and leave it at that. If I were the Admin and I demanded a disclosure... and something bad happened to a poster... I'd not want that on my conscience.

Simple directives are always good. Just use BB from now on, and be done with the others. Of course Houston/Berkeley gets to keep his IDs. Why? I don't know, maybe he's not real either. lol

[n david]

My primary goal is to keep from people I know being able to query my full name and find everything I've ever posted. And my real pic looks far different from back in the day. Most don't recognize me when I walk past them on the street.
Well, if you want to be anonymous, you don't use the same avatar as your FB pic. You post often enough on AFF that anyone who knows you in real life, would be able to see a post you've made and instantly recognize your pic.

[aegsm76]

Please post your real name and address... or... shut up and value your anonymity with the rest of us. LOL

I do not post cryptic messages that supposedly give hints as to who I am...

[Aquila]

Well, if you want to be anonymous, you don't use the same avatar as your FB pic. You post often enough on AFF that anyone who knows you in real life, would be able to see a post you've made and instantly recognize your pic.

Maybe, but that's yet to happen. But good point.

[Aquila]

I do not post cryptic messages that supposedly give hints as to who I am...

Maybe you don't. Apparently others do. So what?

[n david]

If I were the Admin and I demanded a disclosure... and something bad happened to a poster... I'd not want that on my conscience.
:toofunny

Who do you think we are? Seriously. Talk about drama queen. You're acting as though BB's life would be in danger.

Of course Houston/Berkeley gets to keep his IDs. Why? I don't know, maybe he's not real either.
Houston/Berkeley has also been open with his aliases, and if you're observant, usually uses the same avatar for them.

[aegsm76]

:(
I asked several people if they knew my identity. I have not created and enjoyed drama anywhere.

Not true.
You started a thread that was titled "Rachel says Hi".

[Aquila]

I am not a yohe.
I am not a strange.
I am not a winter.
And my first name is not Dan.
I am BUCKYBAKAROO!
Please respect my right to anonymity on this forum.

I think it was even insinuated once that you and I were the same poster too, weren't we? LOL

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Of course Houston/Berkeley gets to keep his IDs. Why? I don't know, maybe he's not real either. lol

Unfair, inconsistent AND I am not even using another username to post under. I am not Rachel. I am not Bert. I have never been banned neither have I done anything worthy of being banned.

[aegsm76]

I am not a yohe.
I am not a strange.
I am not a winter.
And my first name is not Dan.
I am BUCKYBAKAROO!
Please respect my right to anonymity on this forum.

So you want to remain anonymous, but continue to play the cryptic clue game.
Seems like I remember something about a double-minded man...

[Aquila]

:toofunny

Who do you think we are? Seriously. Talk about drama queen. You're acting as though BB's life would be in danger.

I admit that it's a long shot that anyone would be in any real danger over this kind of thing. But... in today's world, you never know. I'd rather error on the side of caution.


Houston/Berkeley has also been open with his aliases, and if you're observant, usually uses the same avatar for them.

Then what's the point?

And since he's open about two user names... can anyone be certain those are the only two he uses? I mean, what if he has others? He already openly uses two. It isn't illogical to assume he has others, is it? For all I know, you're the Berkster too. LOL

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I think it was even insinuated once that you and I were the same poster too, weren't we? LOL
I know.


I thought it was laughable at first, but it is disappointing to see this happening now. Besides, I think Admin knows who I am and I really wish they didn't take this public.

I request this thread be closed.

[Aquila]

So you want to remain anonymous, but continue to play the cryptic clue game.
Seems like I remember something about a double-minded man...

Eh, I think it is just someone using a new ID trying to find friends who will know who he is and keep it in confidence. Those who figure it out will have a good laugh with him and move on. No biggie. Y'all act like he kicked your cat or something.

But people love torches and pitchforks around here. LOL

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

So you want to remain anonymous, but continue to play the cryptic clue game.
Seems like I remember something about a double-minded man...

Ok. I'll delete the post and hopefully you will delete yours.

[1ofthechosen]

Rachel Rose and Aquila ride again... This is a pattern.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Not true.
You started a thread that was titled "Rachel says Hi".


Brother it was a joke!
The House of Bert...

Really?
You tbought I was being serious?

[Aquila]

Rachel Rose and Aquila ride again... This is a pattern.

Honestly, I don't know if Buckey is RachelRose or not. Evidently, that's the suspicion. And if he is, so what? Rachel was obviously a non-traditional character created to stir the pot. Any idiot can see that. That's why I just laughed at it while y'all running around like frightened chips throwing rocks at it. LOL

I'm willing to bet English humor and irony is lost on a lot of you guys. :lol

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

More like frightened chimps throwing poop at others.

[Aquila]

People think I'm Bukeye… and people think I'm RachelRose. I'll tell you what, I'm definitely not RachelRose, but I am a Buckeye. lol

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

So you want to remain anonymous, but continue to play the cryptic clue game.
Seems like I remember something about a double-minded man...

P.s.
deleted

[1ofthechosen]

Honestly, I don't know if Buckey is RachelRose. And if he is, so what? Rachel was obviously a non-traditional character created to stir the pot. Any idiot can see that. That's why I just laughed at it while y'all running around like frightened chips throwing rocks at it. LOL

Well either way it went it liked you. And was a fan just like this other fake screen name, which we can at least divulge that from this thread. Bucky is at least a alter ego of the poster. This is just a pattern, that keeps happening altogether. And maybe you are the one stirring the pot, considering that's your purpose on here it seems with the suicide threats, nudist tales, smoking weed and etc stuff you post. On half that stuff you can't be serious.

[Aquila]

More like frightened chimps throwing poop at others.

Haters gonna hate.

It's what they do.

There are so many personality types, and most here think everyone is like them. It's really kinda dunderheaded.

[n david]

Not true.
You started a thread that was titled "Rachel says Hi".
Don't forget BB mentioned Bert as well.

There was another person on AFF who used dumb rhymes and cryptic posts.

Also Beaulah Bound, an alias of ILG.

[houston]

Don't forget BB mentioned Bert as well.

There was another person on AFF who used dumb rhymes and cryptic posts.

Also Beaulah Bound, an alias of ILG.


ILG was Beulah and Emma. Funny!

[1ofthechosen]

Haters gonna hate.

It's what they do.

There are so many personality types, and most here think everyone is like them. It's really kinda dunderheaded.


Since people are over here being cryptic speaking in riddles I am only just speaking what I observe of the behavior. What's being said is going right in the trash I have a filter for foolishness I'm allergic to it.

I've offered my two cents and I know I'm in the neighborhood, and all that's done in the dark will be seen in the light. So with that, I bid you good day

[n david]

Besides, I think Admin knows who I am and I really wish they didn't take this public.
From the post in reference, it's clear Admin knows your other aliases. It also appears Admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

[JoeBandy]

from the post in reference, it's clear admin knows your other aliases. It also appears admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

who cares????!!!!!

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Don't forget BB mentioned Bert as well.

There was another person on AFF who used dumb rhymes and cryptic posts.

Also Beaulah Bound, an alias of ILG.

Yes I did.
The House of Bert greets you...


with a holy kiss.

:dogkiss
:shockamoo
:TulsaTime:

[Aquila]

Well either way it went it liked you. And was a fan just like this other fake screen name, which we can at least divulge that from this thread. Bucky is at least a alter ego of the poster. This is just a pattern, that keeps happening altogether. And maybe you are the one stirring the pot, considering that's your purpose on here it seems with the suicide threats, nudist tales, smoking weed and etc stuff you post. On half that stuff you can't be serious.

Well...

I do get board with the same old tired subjects. And some topics are mainstream topics, and it seems like no one has the guts to discuss them honestly. I hate echo chambers and mutual admiration societies. So, yeah, I like to stir the pot with some crazy topics every now and then. The sad thing is... even then... most don't discuss them honestly. Like the marijuana thing. I was discussing medical marijuana, you know, the oil extract that helps kids with epilepsy and people with Parkinson's and so many other diseases. But some of your most fanciful pontiffs around here twisted it up to me advocating that kids smoke weed. So, the conversation evolved to include that topic. Honesty is important. And frankly, there's a lack of it around here.

And as for "nudist tales", I posted one thing that in retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have. However, it has become the favorite post for some of our most "conservative" members to go back and reflect on and repost. I think it is their favorite post. lol That's far more creepy to me than lovers having breakfast in the buff. C'mon, most on here have done far more personal things in the buff than eat cereal. But mentioning eating cereal with your better half before getting dressed in the morning was just going too fair! LOL It's fake, phony, feigned outrage. That's all it is.

As for suicide threats... that again was blown way out of proportion. I've already explained it, but the distortion continues.

[1ofthechosen]

Joe you still haven't answered is this you? Are you also Bill E Goat?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

From the post in reference, it's clear Admin knows your other aliases. It also appears Admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

:cowbell

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

From the post in reference, it's clear Admin knows your other aliases. It also appears Admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

So now I am selling snake oil?
Or maybe I am selling used cars?
Maybe I am selling holy handkerchiefs.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

who cares????!!!!!

Exactly.
Alter-egos have never been banned on AFF before. They have been used openly.

[Aquila]

From the post in reference, it's clear Admin knows your other aliases. It also appears Admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

That can be distorted. Let's say this member created a user name and built the character of a cross dresser to ruffle some feathers and present some challenges to the status quo. They certainly have their own reasons for that. Maybe a child is a cross dresser, or a relative, or who knows. Maybe it was just for laughs. Frankly, who cares? Clearly they want to present something that they know will be used to trash them if they don't create the fake user name. So, they create the fake user name and discuss the issue, get some things off their chest, find out how some are haters, some are not, or they just get a good laugh. So, they retire the silly user ID. No harm done really. Only their detractors are trying to paint them bad. However, half of their detractors have multiple user names too. LOL

Were they "dishonest"??? Or were they simply allowing the anonymity of the internet to allow them freedom to openly discuss something they typically wouldn't be able to without being misunderstood, misrepresented, or slandered? I mean, how many times can you ask something and say, "Asking for a friend."??? LOL

It's really simple to understand, in my opinion.

Frankly, it's the same reason why confession booths have curtains.

But, people will try to paint it as dishonesty... if it suits them. But it is just being creative or silly if a detractor is shown to have a second user name.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

That can be distorted. Let's say this member created a user name and built the character of a cross dresser to ruffle some feathers and present some challenges to the status quo. They certainly have their own reasons for that. Maybe a child is a cross dresser, or a relative, or who knows. Maybe it was just for laughs. Frankly, who cares? Clearly they want to present something that they know will be used to trash them if they don't create the fake user name. So, they create the fake user name and discuss the issue, get some things off their chest, find out how some are haters, some are not, or they just get a good laugh. So, they retire the silly user ID. No harm done really. Only their detractors are trying to paint them bad. However, half of their detractors have multiple user names too. LOL

Were they "dishonest"??? Or were they simply allowing the anonymity of the internet to allow them freedom to push and talk about something they typically wouldn't be able to? I mean, how many times can you ask something and say, "Asking for a friend."??? LOL

It's really simple to me.

Frankly, it's the same reason why confession booths have curtains.

But, people will try to paint it as dishonesty... if it suits them. But it is just being creative or silly if they are shown to have a second user name.


It was fun at first. Now it isn't.

I am not Rachel Rose.

I am not Bert.

I do not wish my identity to be made public-- whether by old screen name or by real name.

The fact that I have to plainly state this is not cool at all.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

From the post in reference, it's clear Admin knows your other aliases. It also appears Admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

Plainly, I am not Rachel Rose. I am not Bert. I don't know what to say or do to prove this to you. The false accusations are worrisome and is taking the fun out of posting.

[Aquila]

It was fun at first. Now it isn't.

I am not Rachel Rose.

I am not Bert.

I do not wish my identity to be made public-- whether by old screen name or by real name.

The fact that I have to plainly state this is not cool at all.

I can see your concern.

RachelRose was clearly non-traditional... and good for a few laughs. However, some folks took it to a rather dark level with the hatred and slander. Now it isn't a joke any more. What those people have done is created a paradigm whereby the poster in question could be accused for anything presented under RachelRose… and if it isn't truly what they wish to be known for or be associated with... that could be very bad for them.

I put myself in those shoes. On the medical marijuana topic everything I've said has been twisted, misrepresented, and propagated as such until most believe a caricature of who I am, and they don't even know or take the time to get to know the details and fine print of my thoughts or beliefs on it. The only difference is... I didn't shield myself from their foolishness by using an alternate user name. So, now I bear the Scarlet Letter of the haters who have lied and distorted who and what I am. And at first, I thought about scaping this user name and starting from scratch. But you know what... I decided that by wearing their hatred and distortions has a badge of honor, I seal their lying fate in the judgment. Let the dogs keep lying and distorting what I say. We'll answer for every idle word, if one believes what Jesus said. The more they allow their darker angels to motivate them... the more they seal their own fate.

[Aquila]

I'm Bert and RachelRose. I'm also a Buckeye. I'm Prax, and, I'm also MichaeltheDisciple. And, I'm a couple others, practicing how to be the most hateful and personally insulting person on the forum, to myself. Someone wanna make a big deal about it? LOL

I think the Admin can look at IP addresses and other things to determine who is really who.

It shocks me that a big deal would be made over anyone using a second user name, when the more we discuss this the more others share that they too have other user names. Yet someone can slander posters repeatedly in the most hateful and venomous way... and even say things that legally boarder on libel... and it's allowed to go unchallenged.

We need to eliminate the hate. Who cares if someone has multiple user IDs.

[MawMaw]

:paranoid :girlpopcorn

[n david]

That can be distorted. Let's say this member created a user name and built the character of a cross dresser to ruffle some feathers and present some challenges to the status quo. They certainly have their own reasons for that. Maybe a child is a cross dresser, or a relative, or who knows. Maybe it was just for laughs. Frankly, who cares? Clearly they want to present something that they know will be used to trash them if they don't create the fake user name. So, they create the fake user name and discuss the issue, get some things off their chest, find out how some are haters, some are not, or they just get a good laugh. So, they retire the silly user ID. No harm done really. Only their detractors are trying to paint them bad. However, half of their detractors have multiple user names too. LOL
RR has a history on FB - years of history. He wasn't created by BB. More likely he created BB.

[Aquila]

Frankly, I'm not sure why everyone is so obsessed over RachelRose. But evidently he (or she) is one of the most popular usernames on the forum.

Could it be the thirst to destroy another?

They want to know who RachelRose is because they want to paint the caricature as a reality... to tear down another individual.

Again, it is people following their darker angels.

[Aquila]

RR has a history on FB - years of history. He wasn't created by BB. More likely he created BB.

And if the poster using RachelRose felt the username had completed its purpose, why should they not be able to retire it and use another?

[JoeBandy]

Joe you still haven't answered is this you? Are you also Bill E Goat?

Actually I did. He is my BIL

[n david]

RachelRose was clearly non-traditional... and good for a few laughs. However, some folks took it to a rather dark level with the hatred and slander. Now it isn't a joke any more. What those people have done is created a paradigm whereby the poster in question could be accused for anything presented under RachelRose… and if it isn't truly what they wish to be known for or be associated with... that could be very bad for them.
"non-traditional?" If that's what you call a male who pretends to be a female and dresses as a female.

You do know RR is not an alias, right? He is not a made up character.

[Aquila]

Actually I did. He is my BIL

If challenged to prove that, could you?

I don't ask to make you do such a thing. I'm just asking because it has been asked of others, and it is next to impossible for one to clear their name when such an accusation is made.

[n david]

And if the poster using RachelRose felt the username had completed its purpose, why should they not be able to retire it and use another?
RR was banned, he did not "retire his username." Per AFF guidelines if you have been banned, you're banned. You cannot simply start a new account and pretend as though nothing happened.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

From the post in reference, it's clear Admin knows your other aliases. It also appears Admin believes you're not being honest about what you've posted.

If ADMIN wants to question what I have said or done, they are more than welcome to do so, privately


I extend that same courtesy to you. But I reserve the right to maintain my identity privately.

[Aquila]

"non-traditional?" If that's what you call a male who pretends to be a female and dresses as a female.

You do know RR is not an alias, right? He is not a made up character.

I know that some of you don't want anyone to think it is a made up caricature.

But so many here have misrepresented me to the point that it is an outright joke. I'm more prone to give the poster behind RachelRose the benefit of a doubt for being an alias to stir the pot, before I'll be reduced to assumptions that have been made in a bad spirit.

Like I said, I've even been accused of being RachelRose. And it was said in a way that was pure hate. It wasn't jest. It was to smear. And when I see that, I tend to want to defend the underdog. Even if they're a bit odd.

[Aquila]

If ADMIN wants to question what I have said or done, they ate more than welcome to do so, privately


I extend that same courtesy to you. But I reserve the right to maintain my identity privately.

The Admin helped resolve my issue privately. I don't know why they wouldn't do it for you too.

[Aquila]

RR was banned, he did not "retire his username." Per AFF guidelines if you have been banned, you're banned. You cannot simply start a new account and pretend as though nothing happened.

I see what you mean. But I wonder how many of you guys have done that?

I can also see how the mere accusation that someone is a previously banned user can be used to get them banned unrightfully.

Who started accusing people of being RachelRose anyway???

I was accused of being RachelRose, was their intention to see me banned unrightfully???

[n david]

I know that some of you don't want anyone to think it is a made up caricature.

But so many here have misrepresented me to the point that it is an outright joke. I'm more prone to give the poster behind RachelRose the benefit of a doubt for being an alias to stir the pot,
RR was not misrepresented. RR has a public FB page on which he posts pics of himself dressed as a woman and has posted about his experience as a cross dresser.

You would have AFF believe that someone with a FB page created in 2013 is an alias created in 2018 just to "stir the pot."

:laffatu

[n david]

I see what you mean. But I wonder how many of you guys have done that?
Don't include me in it. I have never been banned.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

RR was not misrepresented. RR has a public FB page on which he posts pics of himself dressed as a woman and has posted about his experience as a cross dresser.

You would have AFF believe that someone with a FB page created in 2013 is an alias created in 2018 just to "stir the pot."

:laffatu

OMG!
I can 100% assure you I am not a cross dresser!

THIS IS INSANITY!

[n david]

I extend that same courtesy to you. But I reserve the right to maintain my identity privately.
You sent me an unsolicited PM a couple months ago asking if I knew who you were. Recently, you sent me another PM saying that now you know I know who you are.

I don't "know" who you are. I took a guess a couple months ago that you're either

Houston/Berkeley
Allstate
Aquila

I don't believe you're H/B.

I've thought your posting style and choice of phrases/words was similar to Aquila.

IIRC, one of your posts referenced Allstate, which is why that alias was included.

So which one are you? Allstate or Aquila?

[houston]

RR has a history on FB - years of history.

What?

[Aquila]

RR was not misrepresented. RR has a public FB page on which he posts pics of himself dressed as a woman and has posted about his experience as a cross dresser.

You would have AFF believe that someone with a FB page created in 2013 is an alias created in 2018 just to "stir the pot."

:laffatu

Okay, that doesn't look like they did that to stir the pot. I admit. Shows how little I know about the drama around RachelRose I guess.

But, there are ways to take an old Facebook account and update it to be a prop. I'm still not convinced. I know how people have distorted everything I've said and done, I'm not easily convinced here.

[Aquila]

Don't include me in it. I have never been banned.

How do we know?

[1ofthechosen]

You sent me an unsolicited PM a couple months ago asking if I knew who you were. Recently, you sent me another PM saying that now you know I know who you are.

I don't "know" who you are. I took a guess a couple months ago that you're either

Houston/Berkeley
Allstate
Aquila

I don't believe you're H/B.

I've thought your posting style and choice of phrases/words was similar to Aquila.

IIRC, one of your posts referenced Allstate, which is why that alias was included.

So which one are you? Allstate or Aquila?

And All State 1 is Bill E Goat, and that's leads us back to Bandy also. All I can say is all of this is sad. In the words of Jeff Arnold "Some of y'all couldn't tell the truth if you were standing on a Bible looking at Jesus." And this is supposed to be a Christian forum.

[houston]

"non-traditional?" If that's what you call a male who pretends to be a female and dresses as a female.

You do know RR is not an alias, right? He is not a made up character.

Que!?

[Aquila]

And All State 1 is Bill E Goat, and that's leads us back to Bandy also. All I can say is all of this is sad. In the words of Jeff Arnold "Some of y'all couldn't tell the truth if you were standing on a Bible looking at Jesus." And this is supposed to be a Christian forum.

:lol

Gotta love Jeff Arnold! LOL

[Aquila]

You sent me an unsolicited PM a couple months ago asking if I knew who you were. Recently, you sent me another PM saying that now you know I know who you are.

I don't "know" who you are. I took a guess a couple months ago that you're either

Houston/Berkeley
Allstate
Aquila

I don't believe you're H/B.

I've thought your posting style and choice of phrases/words was similar to Aquila.

IIRC, one of your posts referenced Allstate, which is why that alias was included.

So which one are you? Allstate or Aquila?

Oh, now this is choice! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a one of a kind, I promise you that. And if you don't believe me, ask the Admin. I'm sure the Admin can trace IPs and connect the dots.

[houston]

david,

Send me the link to the FB profile

[Aquila]

What if... there is really only three people on this forum? LOL!

[Aquila]

RR was not misrepresented. RR has a public FB page on which he posts pics of himself dressed as a woman and has posted about his experience as a cross dresser.

You would have AFF believe that someone with a FB page created in 2013 is an alias created in 2018 just to "stir the pot."

:laffatu

If you can, send me a link too. Now I'm just morbidly curious. lol

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

You sent me an unsolicited PM a couple months ago asking if I knew who you were. Recently, you sent me another PM saying that now you know I know who you are.

I don't "know" who you are. I took a guess a couple months ago that you're either

Houston/Berkeley
Allstate
Aquila

I don't believe you're H/B.

I've thought your posting style and choice of phrases/words was similar to Aquila.

IIRC, one of your posts referenced Allstate, which is why that alias was included.

So which one are you? Allstate or Aquila?



C'mon man!
The very first word in any conversation could be technically unsolicited!

[Amanah]

Bucky


you seem to be a conservative Apostolic
you have had multiple avatars/personas on AFF
you PM people to see if they can guess who you are
yet you want to remain anonymous
you create riddles for people to guess who you are


I don't understand the reason for such behavior.

[JoeBandy]

This thread is prime example of this entire forum circling the drain!

[1ofthechosen]

Bucky


you seem to be a conservative Apostolic
you have had multiple avatars/personas on AFF
you PM people to see if they can guess who you are
yet you want to remain anonymous
you create riddles for people to guess who you are


I don't understand the reason for such behavior.

That's the absolute bottom line on all of it. Bucky is a made up persona at best and I believe that is what Admin was saying in the first place. Despite what the reason is, its a spirit of deception that's behind all of it, it has nothing to do with Jesus, or the truth. But it doesn't really matter if they ban Bucky (or whoever he is or was before, and will be in days to come!) its just going to reoccur. Despite all of that ita a sad state of affairs.

[Aquila]

That's the absolute bottom line on all of it. Bucky is a made up persona at best and I believe that is what Admin was saying in the first place. Despite what the reason is, its a spirit of deception that's behind all of it, it has nothing to do with Jesus, or the truth. But it doesn't really matter if they ban Bucky (or whoever he is or was before, and will be in days to come!) its just going to reoccur. Despite all of that ita a sad state of affairs.

The libertarian in me says, so what? LOL

[Amanah]

The libertarian in me says, so what? LOL

I suppose it depends on the reason you are here on the forum.

If you are here because you want to learn from others, then knowing that others are here to play head games with you detracts from the value of the forum.

We are all people who Jesus died for, people who will spend eternity somewhere. If we are apostolic, we should be concerned for the souls of one another. We should be concerned with our presentation to one another.

If someone is struggling with their walk with God and are living in deception, then it concerns me.

If someone has walked away from God, no longer believing the truth and is here to resist and obstruct apostolics, that concerns me.

[houston]

This thread is prime example of this entire forum circling the drain!

And yet here you are

[1ofthechosen]

I suppose it depends on the reason you are here on the forum.

If you are here because you want to learn from others, then knowing that others are here to play head games with you detracts from the value of the forum.

We are all people who Jesus died for, people who will spend eternity somewhere. If we are apostolic, we should be concerned for the souls of one another. We should be concerned with our presentation to one another.

If someone is struggling with their walk with God and are living in deception, then it concerns me.

If someone has walked away from God, no longer believing the truth and is here to resist and obstruct apostolics, that concerns me.


It's all sad regardless, and I thought it was just a liberal spirit in some, but apparently its worse than that.

[Aquila]

I suppose it depends on the reason you are here on the forum.

If you are here because you want to learn from others, then knowing that others are here to play head games with you detracts from the value of the forum.

We are all people who Jesus died for, people who will spend eternity somewhere. If we are apostolic, we should be concerned for the souls of one another. We should be concerned with our presentation to one another.

If someone is struggling with their walk with God and are living in deception, then it concerns me.

If someone has walked away from God, no longer believing the truth and is here to resist and obstruct apostolics, that concerns me.

I agree. But there is more than one way of looking at it.

People learn differently. Let's say I find myself studying something that advocates polygamy. I cross reference, I study those references. It all begins to sound pretty clear to me that polygamy is biblically permissible. And let's say that I want to discuss it, and even share what I've learned, and see how it measures up to the position of others. However, I don't want to be known as advocating for polygamy for several reasons... First, if my lady finds out, she'll flip. Second, if my pastor finds out, I'm off the praise team. Thirdly, if my church finds out, I'll loose friends that I dearly love. So, I decide to create another user name. This guy is "PolygamyHero". I come on board with a post that examines and praises polygamy from a pro-polygamy position. Now, of course that invites plenty of critics, as expected, and rightfully so. And as iron sharpens iron we debate it for 400 pages. We look at it from some many angles it's almost dizzying to the casual reader. In the end, I might feel like the arguments I studied were actually quite weak and walk away tossing the notion that polygamy is biblically permissible in the NT church. Or... I might walk away feeling like the position was terribly sound, and actually believe that it is correct. Either way, I can now back off using "PolygamyHero" and return to my actual preferred user name... and no one berates me, accuses me, or slanders me based on my new found conviction. In fact, I can keep it to myself if I desire and move on. I also see how people act when the "dissenter" isn't around. Do they pray for him? Do they talk about what valid points he might have had? Do they wish him well, but disagree? Or do they insult, name call, berate, and mock? You suddenly find yourself looking at men you thought were spiritually mature giants... thinking, "These guys are like school yard kids picking on the odd ball." It can be a real eye opener.

Is it a head game? Well, kinda. But if discussing a sensitive issue, a bit of anonymity might be best. Else one be found truly lying and pretending that they are asking "for a friend". The ability to be anonymous fosters more open and honest conversation in a personally safe environment. Even Catholic confession booths have curtains to maintain anonymity. It's not deception. It's not intended to be a lie. But it is a bit of a head game. But to a degree, such can be expected on this kind of media and forum... if one wishes to ask or debate a difficult issue.

My experience on here would be easier if I chose an anonymous user name for the controversial stuff. But... I chose not to do that. Now, I can't go anywhere on this forum without being misrepresented, slandered, or berated. But I've chosen to wear at as a badge. That's just me. Others want to be able to back off the drama and be someone who doesn't attract it when they don't want to deal with it. Is that really so bad??? Is that really so dishonest??? From personal experience, I wish I did that. But now I know who the haters are and who real friends are. I know who is open minded and who is willing to understand that perhaps I was just examining an issue, or wrestling with something I've heard or read and who are closed minded jerks that will do nothing but berate me over everything I've ever wrote. Even those things I've realized were silly ideas and backed off of.

The haters almost make it a necessity to use other usernames. Because free and open communication without risk of personal insult, attack, slander, or libel isn't a practice here. The haters are never reprimanded and so anonymity and even perhaps a second username is necessary... if you want to come back and put some silly topic behind you.

If someone has walked away from God, no longer believing the truth and is here to resist and obstruct apostolics, that concerns me.

I agree. That is a different story. People who are here and are not even believers who only cause trouble concern me too. But... from another angle... those are exactly the people we might want open dialogue with... for the sake of their souls... and the souls of those who perhaps are struggling with the same questions or concerns.

[1ofthechosen]

I agree. But there is more than one way of looking at it.

People learn differently. Let's say I find myself studying something that advocates polygamy. I cross reference, I study those references. It all begins to sound pretty clear to me that polygamy is biblically permissible. And let's say that I want to discuss it, and even share what I've learned, and see how it measures up to the position of others. However, I don't want to be known as advocating for polygamy for several reasons... First, if my lady finds out, she'll flip. Second, if my pastor finds out, I'm off the praise team. Thirdly, if my church finds out, I'll loose friends that I dearly love. So, I decide to create another user name. This guy is "PolygamyHero". I come on board with a post that examines and praises polygamy from a pro-polygamy position. Now, of course that invites plenty of critics, as expected, and rightfully so. And as iron sharpens iron we debate it for 400 pages. We look at it from some many angles it's almost dizzying to the casual reader. In the end, I might feel like the arguments I studied were actually quite weak and walk away tossing the notion that polygamy is biblically permissible in the NT church. Or... I might walk away feeling like the position was terribly sound, and actually believe that it is correct. Either way, I can now back off using "PolygamyHero" and return to my actual preferred user name... and no one berates me, accuses me, or slanders me based on my new found conviction. In fact, I can keep it to myself if I desire and move on. I also see how people act when the "dissenter" isn't around. Do they pray for him? Do they talk about what valid points he might have had? Do they wish him well, but disagree? Or do they insult, name call, berate, and mock? You suddenly find yourself looking at men you thought were spiritually mature giants... thinking, "These guys are like school yard kids picking on the odd ball." It can be a real eye opener.

Is it a head game? Well, kinda. But if discussing a sensitive issue, a bit of anonymity might be best. Else one be found truly lying and pretending that they are asking "for a friend". The ability to be anonymous fosters more open and honest conversation in a personally safe environment. Even Catholic confession booths have curtains to maintain anonymity. It's not deception. It's not intended to be a lie. But it is a bit of a head game. But to a degree, such can be expected on this kind of media and forum... if one wishes to ask or debate a difficult issue.

My experience on here would be easier if I chose an anonymous user name for the controversial stuff. But... I chose not to do that. Now, I can't go anywhere on this forum without being misrepresented, slandered, or berated. But I've chosen to wear at as a badge. That's just me. Others want to be able to back off the drama and be someone who doesn't attract it when they don't want to deal with it. Is that really so bad??? Is that really so dishonest??? From personal experience, I wish I did that. But now I know who the haters are and who real friends are. I know who is open minded and who is willing to understand that perhaps I was just examining an issue, or wrestling with something I've heard or read and who are closed minded jerks that will do nothing but berate me over everything I've ever wrote. Even those things I've realized were silly ideas and backed off of.

The haters almost make it a necessity to use other usernames. Because free and open communication without risk of personal insult, attack, slander, or libel isn't a practice here. The haters are never reprimanded and so anonymity and even perhaps a second username is necessary... if you want to come back and put some silly topic behind you.





Well this is explains everything that is wrong with this whole discussion and state of affairs. You have to create a altar ego to try on like a pair of shoes to think analytically? I'm sure there is a actual psychological diagnosis for that sort of line of thought. I'll just save the Spiritual diagnosis of it because it's a waste of time to even say it. All I can do is SMH at all of this

[Esaias]

Is it 5 o'clock Saturday, yet? Somewhere? Anywhere?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

It's all sad regardless, and I thought it was just a liberal spirit in some, but apparently its worse than that.

Listen! Everyone on here is using a screen name. No one is using their real name. Why should I be required to use my real name? Furthermore, I have stated that I only use one user name. I am only using one user name. Yes I used to post a while ago. I took a break. I am hosting under a new username and I am only using this username. I am not the only person who has a different username. I don't even use multiple user names, I just have a different username because the other username I don't use anymore. I mean, I really don't understand what is the big deal and I sure enough do not understand the request for me to divulge my identity. This place, this Apostolic internet forum has always been anonymous. And it has been Anonymous for a good reason, for several good reasons.

[navygoat1998]

Listen! Everyone on here is using a screen name. No one is using their real name. Why should I be required to use my real name? Furthermore, I have stated that I only use one user name. I am only using one user name. Yes I used to post a while ago. I took a break. I am hosting under a new username and I am only using this username. I am not the only person who has a different username. I don't even use multiple user names, I just have a different username because the other username I don't use anymore. I mean, I really don't understand what is the big deal and I sure enough do not understand the request for me to divulge my identity. This place, this Apostolic internet forum has always been anonymous. And it has been Anonymous for a good reason, for several good reasons.

To each his own.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I have given hints as to who my identity is. That is all I'm going to say about it. It's supposed to be fun. This place is supposed to be fun. You guys are taking the J out of joy! I will never plainly state my identity and the request to do so is LUDICROUS.

The request to divulge a former username is almost as ludicrous! I am not Rachel Rose, or Bert, or Timmy, or Allstate or anyone else who has been previously banned.

I am Bucky and I am anonymous. Most who knew me are gone.

[Esaias]

I have given hints as to who my identity is. That is all I'm going to say about it. It's supposed to be fun. This place is supposed to be fun. You guys are taking the J out of joy! I will never plainly state my identity and the request to do so is LUDICROUS.

The request to divulge a former username is almost as ludicrous! I am not Rachel Rose, or Bert, or Timmy, or Allstate or anyone else who has been previously banned.

I am Bucky and I am anonymous. Most who knew me are gone.

Admin told you to state your former username(s) or else be banned. That you are still here while refusing to do so is interesting, to say the least.

Not that I personally care, mind you. I'm only here for the free cheese.

[houston]

Admin told you to state your former username(s) or else be banned. That you are still here while refusing to do so is interesting, to say the least.

Not that I personally care, mind you. I'm only here for the free cheese.

There’s snacks?

[houston]

You sent me an unsolicited PM a couple months ago asking if I knew who you were. Recently, you sent me another PM saying that now you know I know who you are.

I don't "know" who you are. I took a guess a couple months ago that you're either

Houston/Berkeley
Allstate
Aquila

I don't believe you're H/B.

I've thought your posting style and choice of phrases/words was similar to Aquila.

IIRC, one of your posts referenced Allstate, which is why that alias was included.

So which one are you? Allstate or Aquila?

He or she did that to you, too? Did he or she also send you a music video?

[Esaias]

There’s snacks?

What? You didn't know about that?

Uh... never mind. Forget I said anything.

Bucky, its a shame you haven't been banned. Right, everybody? Right? Let's stay on topic here, okay everyone?

[1ofthechosen]

I have given hints as to who my identity is. That is all I'm going to say about it. It's supposed to be fun. This place is supposed to be fun. You guys are taking the J out of joy! I will never plainly state my identity and the request to do so is LUDICROUS.

The request to divulge a former username is almost as ludicrous! I am not Rachel Rose, or Bert, or Timmy, or Allstate or anyone else who has been previously banned.

I am Bucky and I am anonymous. Most who knew me are gone.


No one said for you to give your name or identity. But if you posted under another screen name just say what it was and that should suffice. I don't think anyone was asking for your Government name we wouldn't know that anyway. But you seem to be wanting to allude that. Houston maybe Berkeley but he devulged that information when asked. He never acted as someone else and then started sending messages to people speaking lyrics and riddles to people, and acting like how you have been. Just say your other screen name no one cares about your Government name.

[jediwill83]

I have given hints as to who my identity is. That is all I'm going to say about it. It's supposed to be fun. This place is supposed to be fun. You guys are taking the J out of joy! I will never plainly state my identity and the request to do so is LUDICROUS.

The request to divulge a former username is almost as ludicrous! I am not Rachel Rose, or Bert, or Timmy, or Allstate or anyone else who has been previously banned.

I am Bucky and I am anonymous. Most who knew me are gone.




So is your name.....RUMPLESTILSKIN????!!!!!

[navygoat1998]

What? You didn't know about that?

Uh... never mind. Forget I said anything.

Bucky, its a shame you haven't been banned. Right, everybody? Right? Let's stay on topic here, okay everyone?

Real wine at communion :heeheehee

[Evang.Benincasa]

Besides, there are others here with multiple screen names. And even if I was the only one, I would only divulge another screen name. That's it. You still wouldn't know who I am. I have provided a clue in my signature line-- an excerpt from a post from last week. I haven't said or done anything to warrant the demand to reveal and I DEFINITELY have done nothing to apologize for. This is a precedent that would not be easy to enforce across the board. Please reconsider your demands-- in the name of fairness.

Sorry, but you were the one who created the thread Hello from Rachel Rose.
You thought you were being cute evidently you were wrong. CC1 thought it was a problem so he called you out. You took a while to respond and yet another Admin alos saw it as a problem.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Admin told you to state your former username(s) or else be banned. That you are still here while refusing to do so is interesting, to say the least.

Not that I personally care, mind you. I'm only here for the free cheese.

State FORMER user names, not actual name. Big difference. I guess Bert wants to stay undercover as Rachel Rose?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

You need to come clean about who you are

and what your former screen-name used to be,

or you are history.

You have until Saturday 5pm CST. Create a new thread, say who you are, and apologize for the duplicity.

This is an unfair and inconsistent request. I have contacted Admin about this. I apologize if it seems that I am questioning Admin. That is not my intent.

[jediwill83]

This is an unfair and inconsistent request. I have contacted Admin about this. I apologize if it seems that I am questioning Admin. That is not my intent.




No no...the word "seems" suggests that we are perceiving something falsely.


It's basically saying,"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"


Admin is but a form of authority in your life that you willingly submit to obeying when you decided to create an account and agreed to obey the forum rules as set by the Admins who also can modify as see fit depending on the situation.


Stop trying to deflect by pointing out Houston/Berkeley.


Nobody is trying to Doxx you and cause you to lose a job or harm your family and if you think that's the case...dear Lord how low have we fallen as people who claim to have Truth™ and have the literal Spirit of God within us.


I think we need to discuss your seemingly inherent distrust of your fellow brother or sister in the Lord.


I think it comes down to a lack of honesty where we never know whether the person we see is the mask or the face beneath the mask.


So tell me, are you scared that we will see under the mask? Or have you presented yourself falsely and you behavior shames you to the point where the real people in your life would neither recognize the mask you wear on here or the real you that you only show us while you wear the mask for their benefit?

[Charnock]

I knew who it was the first time I saw his username.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

No no...the word "seems" suggests that we are perceiving something falsely.


It's basically saying,"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"


Admin is but a form of authority in your life that you willingly submit to obeying when you decided to create an account and agreed to obey the forum rules as set by the Admins who also can modify as see fit depending on the situation.


Stop trying to deflect by pointing out Houston/Berkeley.


Nobody is trying to Doxx you and cause you to lose a job or harm your family and if you think that's the case...dear Lord how low have we fallen as people who claim to have Truth™ and have the literal Spirit of God within us.


I think we need to discuss your seemingly inherent distrust of your fellow brother or sister in the Lord.


I think it comes down to a lack of honesty where we never know whether the person we see is the mask or the face beneath the mask.


So tell me, are you scared that we will see under the mask? Or have you presented yourself falsely and you behavior shames you to the point where the real people in your life would neither recognize the mask you wear on here or the real you that you only show us while you wear the mask for their benefit?


Actually, someone else brought him up.

Furthermore, there isn't a mask here other than my username.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

I knew who it was the first time I saw his username.

:nahnah

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

No no...the word "seems" suggests that we are perceiving something falsely.


It's basically saying,"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"


Admin is but a form of authority in your life that you willingly submit to obeying when you decided to create an account and agreed to obey the forum rules as set by the Admins who also can modify as see fit depending on the situation.


What I should have said is thst it is not my intent to be disrespectful. Posting under a screen name on a public internet forum is absolurely normal. It has nothing to do with distrusting my brother and sister.

You are way out in left field on this.

[Evang.Benincasa]

:nahnah

Jedi you were right! :highfive

[houston]

Jedi you were right! :highfive

What did I miss?