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Esaias
10-09-2018, 12:54 PM
Trump Admin Releasing Hundreds of Central American Migrants into U.S.

https://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/10/08/report-catch-and-release-continues-along-arizona-border/

Esaias
10-09-2018, 07:58 PM
WASHINGTON — Hundreds of migrant families seeking asylum in the U.S. were released from detention in Arizona this week without warning and without instructions on where to go, how to find relatives or travel to their court hearings.

A senior Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News the release is "the start of a dam breaking" as family detention facilities, which now hold thousands of migrants, reach capacity.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are releasing the families from detention en masse without following their usual protocol that ensures immigrants have a means to travel to their court hearing and reunite with potential relatives in the U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/abrupt-release-hundreds-migrants-phoenix-start-dam-breaking-n918256

Esaias
10-09-2018, 08:00 PM
Judge blocks Trump’s efforts to end Temporary Protected Status for 300,000 immigrants
The ruling gives a reprieve to immigrants from El Salvador, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Sudan — where TPS holders were facing a November 2 deadline to leave the US.

The judicial resistance against the Trump administration’s immigration policy continues.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/4/17935926/tps-injunction-chen-news

Esaias
10-09-2018, 08:05 PM
Over the last several months, the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service (LIRS) network has been at the heart of the family separation crisis; and now, as the government scrambles to comply with the court-ordered family reunification, we remain on the frontlines. LIRS is working with our network of social service partners, along with multiple non-profits and private sector organizations, offering vital services to these newly reunited families, and ensuring they have a community of support once they have been released.

LIRS is helping to meet the immediate needs of these children and families through on-the-ground operations in partnership with Lutheran Social Services of the Southwest (LSS-SW) in Phoenix and Lutheran Family Services Rocky Mountains (LFSRM) in Albuquerque. The reputations of LSS-SW and LFSRM in resettling refugees, and their expertise working with children and families who have experienced trauma, made them uniquely qualified to step up and offer assistance.

“Our goal is to stabilize the lives of these children and families during this time of crisis. Many of the families we are working with are fleeing their homes to seek asylum because their lives are at risk. It is our identity as human beings, and as people of many faith traditions, to love and serve our neighbor,” said Connie Phillips, President/CEO of LSS-SW.

Once reunified, our teams ensure that these families have access to temporary housing, basic supplies, legal and healthcare referrals, and transportation to the communities they were trying to reach when they came to the United States.

Supporting these efforts is FWD.us, which provided staffing and funding for travel operations, booking hotels and transportation for those families who need a place to stay and a means of travel.

https://www.lirs.org/lirs-provides-support-to-reunited-families

Esaias
10-09-2018, 08:12 PM
While many immigration legal services providers would like to devote more resources to naturalization efforts, these services are often over shadowed by other more urgent issues. Thankfully, organizations like Citizenship Project are here to fill the void.

This CLINIC affiliate is one of the few organizations whose sole focus is promoting citizenship and providing free naturalization services. Located in Las Vegas, Nevada, it was first launched in 2001 as a partnership between the Episcopal Diocese of Nevada and the Culinary Union Local 226 with the goal of helping casino workers and other lawful permanent residents, or LPRs, with the citizenship process.

Although the organization is small with only three full-time staff members, it helps nearly 1,000 LPRs submit N-400 applications each year. Citizenship Project uses the workshop model to deliver high-quality naturalization services. It coordinates and conducts workshops in partnership with organizations and immigration legal services providers around Las Vegas, such as the American Immigration Lawyers Association’s Nevada chapter, Legal Aid Center of Southern Nevada, the Progressive Leadership Alliance of Nevada, the Clark County School District and the Nevada Immigrant Coalition. Support varies from providing volunteer legal services providers to contributing funding. Some even complete outreach in the community to help people get registered for the events.

Since it opened its doors, Citizenship Project has completed more than 15,000 applications and saved its applicants more than $2 million through fee waivers. Last year, Citizenship Project expanded its naturalization work by joining the New Americans Campaign in its ongoing effort to provide application assistance, outreach and information on the naturalization process and its benefits.

...

Citizenship is one of the most important parts of our democracy and obtaining citizenship opens the door to democratic participation. Promoting naturalization is essential to protecting the democratic process and it allows us to have a conversation about how important immigrants are to [the United States.]

...


How is Citizenship Project working to help encourage more people to apply for citizenship and in advance of the 2020 elections?

Citizenship Project has continued to solidify community partnerships and hosts citizenship fairs every quarter. We are also making concerted effort to follow up with people who have already applied and to see if they have family member that might now be eligible.

https://cliniclegal.org/news/naturalization-immigrant-integration-las-vegas-citizenship-project/citizenship-project-working (Catholic "charity" group)

Esaias
10-09-2018, 08:23 PM
Each year, according to Dr. Steven Camarata, researcher at the Center for Immigration Studies, 500,000 foreigners from all over the world jump America’s southern border with Mexico. The Mexican government aids and abets them. (Source: www.cis.org)

Annually, estimates range from 30 to 40 percent of foreign visitors overstay their visas and burrow into America’s cities, towns and countryside—already burdened with 20,000,000 illegal alien enclaves.

Each year, America accepts 1,000,000 legal refugee immigrants from 190 countries who cannot or will not provide for their own citizens. That’s been ongoing since 1965 when Senator Teddy Kennedy’s Immigration Reform Act opened the floodgates from the third world into America. That single act, never discussed with the American people, flooded this country with 100,000,000 more people within 40 years. That same act, if not rescinded, will flood America with another 100,000,000 people by 2050—a scant 33 years from now. (Source: US Census Bureau; US Population Projections by Fogel/Martin; PEW Research Center)

http://sonorannews.com/2017/04/05/united-states-america-flat-invaded/

Esaias
10-09-2018, 08:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lclGeSoID28

Esaias
10-22-2018, 07:21 PM
Look at all these poor women and babies marching on foot for thousands of miles to come seek a better life in America!

Oh, wait...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_MajynXdk

Esaias
10-22-2018, 07:42 PM
The Internet Is ON FIRE After One Questionable Thing Was Discovered In The Migrant Caravan

https://en-volve.com/2018/10/20/the-internet-is-on-fire-after-one-questionable-thing-was-discovered-in-the-migrant-caravan/

Esaias
10-22-2018, 07:47 PM
Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales announced last week that his country has apprehended and deported nearly 100 ISIS-linked operatives. His claim comes as a caravan of Honduran migrants that has grown to 4,000 strong moves through the country en route to the U.S

https://en-volve.com/2018/10/21/shock-report-the-disturbing-news-guatemala-just-announced-is-the-very-reason-all-caravans-must-be-stopped/

Esaias
10-23-2018, 01:19 AM
APRIL 30, 2018
Caravan arrives, Honduran flags flying, middle fingers flashing
By Monica Showalter
After a big buildup, the migrant caravan full of Central America's finest has finally arrived, and as screengrabs from local television broadcasts show, they gave America the bird.

Seriously. Buried in a News 8 broadcast from San Diego was footage of illegal migrants and their supporters on the U.S. side breaching the U.S. fence on the border, waving a big Honduran flag, victory-style, and whipping out a big middle finger at America.

https://www.americanthinker.com

Esaias
10-23-2018, 01:27 AM
Texas Dems ask noncitizens to register to vote, send applications with citizenship box pre-checked

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Thursday, October 18, 2018

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/

Esaias
10-23-2018, 02:35 PM
More than a dozen migrants where released from their detention center and dropped off at La Plaza Brownsville Bus Terminal to catch their bus ride to their final destination in the U.S. early Friday morning by federal ICE agents as they look through donated clothes and receive back packs filled with everyday living neccessities all donated by Good Neighbor Settlement House in Brownsville.

https://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/volunteers-aid-immigrants-left-at-brownsville-bus-station/article_19762d4a-b504-11e8-8710-8b4bdb5a885d.html

Esaias
10-23-2018, 02:40 PM
A second caravan of Central American migrants is making its way north today.

Casa del Migrante, a migrant shelter in Guatemala City, said more than 1,000 people who set out from Honduras were moving through Guatemala toward the Mexican border. Some local media said more than 2,000 are part of it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/caravan-mexico-guatemala-u-s-1.4874879

Esaias
10-23-2018, 03:00 PM
Imagine if all these people decided to march on their own government demanding change, instead of marching to invade our country demanding free handouts?


https://s.hdnux.com/photos/76/34/74/16371513/3/375x250.jpg

Esaias
10-23-2018, 03:16 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTR16uRlGwHm5AxlRBhRWm8VN_bT29ku sDG6FtgejdlD91IG44

Esaias
10-23-2018, 03:36 PM
At some point, you have to ask yourself, "Why doesn't the government do ANYTHING productive to defend America's continued existence?"

The usual excuses, upon simple reflection, are seen for what they are: Stockholm Syndrome. Like a battered wife who keeps excusing her abuser's behavior.

Simply cutting welfare to illegals, and prosecuting employers who hire illegals, would cut illegal invaders' numbers by probably half if not more.

But nooooooo, can't do anything that actually would work. Instead we have to whine and complain and then eventually just accept the destruction of our nation and our future.

Esaias
10-23-2018, 03:38 PM
At some point, you have to ask yourself, "Why doesn't the government do ANYTHING productive to defend America's continued existence?"

The usual excuses, upon simple reflection, are seen for what they are: Stockholm Syndrome. Like a battered wife who keeps excusing her abuser's behavior.

Simply cutting welfare to illegals, and prosecuting employers who hire illegals, would cut illegal invaders' numbers by probably half if not more.

But nooooooo, can't do anything that actually would work. Instead we have to whine and complain and then eventually just accept the destruction of our nation and our future.

And the beatings will continue until we either repent of our sins - or perish.

Judges 6.

Amanah
10-23-2018, 05:02 PM
The destruction of the western world via immigration IAW the Kalergi Plan?

Esaias
10-23-2018, 05:35 PM
The destruction of the western world via immigration IAW the Kalergi Plan?

That's certainly a part of it.

Esaias
10-23-2018, 07:57 PM
How in the world did a caravan of migrants that began with 200-or-so individuals grow to over 7,000 individuals in such a short amount of time? If you thought there were other forces at work organizing the caravan, you might not be as crazy as you’d think. Fox News’ Sara Carter has been following the caravan, and it’s not just Hondurans and other Latin American citizens making the march towards America. “Guatemalan intelligence discovered people from India, Bangladesh, Africa had also joined in with the caravan -I bumped into a number of young MS 13 gang members,” Carter wrote.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/caravan-migrants-india-bangladesh-africa/

Esaias
10-23-2018, 08:07 PM
A horde of foreign military aged males marching toward your country intent on forcing their way in, while waving the flag of their own country, is NOT a "caravan of migrants" but an INVASION FORCE.

How many wimmenz n chirrenz do y'all see here?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV9OOrZasuMOUXHVxP3DIM-tIrgVhMQ3fi3WV0yk8RErnwIO0G6A

johnny44
10-24-2018, 09:16 AM
APRIL 30, 2018
Caravan arrives, Honduran flags flying, middle fingers flashing
By Monica Showalter
After a big buildup, the migrant caravan full of Central America's finest has finally arrived, and as screengrabs from local television broadcasts show, they gave America the bird.

Seriously. Buried in a News 8 broadcast from San Diego was footage of illegal migrants and their supporters on the U.S. side breaching the U.S. fence on the border, waving a big Honduran flag, victory-style, and whipping out a big middle finger at America.

https://www.americanthinker.comAY Ya Yae it's the Nina ,Pinta and the Mayflower all over again.

jediwill83
10-24-2018, 09:38 AM
A horde of foreign military aged males marching toward your country intent on forcing their way in, while waving the flag of their own country, is NOT a "caravan of migrants" but an INVASION FORCE.

How many wimmenz n chirrenz do y'all see here?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV9OOrZasuMOUXHVxP3DIM-tIrgVhMQ3fi3WV0yk8RErnwIO0G6A


But but MUH DIVERSITY!

houston
10-24-2018, 11:25 AM
But but MUH DIVERSITY!

What?

jediwill83
10-24-2018, 02:40 PM
What?


Dem and socialiat strategy of forcibly changing voter demographics with population replacement.


One of the ways they do this is accusing people who against this of being racist and xenophobic.


They push for more "diversity" when in actuality THEY are the racists by assuming they will retain these new people as slaves on their political plantation.


Kinda like how triggered they get blacks start identifying with Republicans or dare to insinuate that political free thought is something that will be tolorated.


My comment was a tongue in cheek expression making fun of the beating of the "Diversity is our strength" drum.


Now if you dont mind Im dancing with my daughter watching shows that are teaching her numbers while scarfing Hawaiian Rolls.

Esaias
10-24-2018, 07:51 PM
But but MUH DIVERSITY!

This IS what the demand for "diversity" is all about. It isn't about actual, dictionary-definition diversity.

Remember, in Orwell's 1984 he stressed the central importance of redefining words, so that freedom actually meant slavery, peace meant war, and so forth. He was pointing out this is what communists do - they take words that mean one thing, and use them to mean something totally different.

In one of the other threads I pointed out how they claim only white people are racist. I quoted their own articles and statements where they deny the dictionary definition, claiming that dictionaries are written by white people so naturally the dictionaries are wrong, and are in fact racist.

They use words like "equality", "diversity", "racism", "oppression", "rights", "fascist", "democracy", and other terms, but not in the way their targets understand those terms. Thus legacy Americans have really little clue as to what's going on. They misunderstand the communist "liberal progressive" agenda, thinking it's just a bunch of dumb people being stupid. They don't realize it's actually some very smart people bent on genocide and tyranny.

Bolsheviks were always yammering about "democracy" and "equality" and "rights", and what that really meant was mass murder, tyranny, and horrors that would make the Assyrians and Romans blush with shame.

Esaias
10-24-2018, 08:05 PM
Of course more people are starting to realize what's going on. Unfortunately, Americans are generally idolatrous heathens, including many professing Christians. They keep looking to men, namely "Republicans" or "Trump" to save them and the nation. Not realizing that both the Democrats and the Republicans are run by communists. (The GOP is and has been run by "neoconservatives" following the philosophy of Irving Kristol, a Trotskyite communist and member of the "Fourth International". Lincoln himself, the original Republican Party president, was on friendly terms with Karl Marx, the reputed founder of Communism.)

And all of the mess we find ourselves in is due entirely to the long-standing American traditional repudiation of God's Word as the foundation for all true freedom, whether individual, familial, or national. Our acceptance of Jacobin antinomian humanism, aka "liberty, equality, fraternity", and our rejection of God's Word as LAW for mankind's governance, has brought us exactly to where we are. More of the humanistic antinomian policies, endorsed by both parties and the vast majority of Americans (including the vast majority of so called Christians) will simply give us more of the same results.

Repentance is the only way out of the black hole we are circling into.

Apostolic1ness
10-25-2018, 08:55 AM
Of course more people are starting to realize what's going on. Unfortunately, Americans are generally idolatrous heathens, including many professing Christians. They keep looking to men, namely "Republicans" or "Trump" to save them and the nation. Not realizing that both the Democrats and the Republicans are run by communists. (The GOP is and has been run by "neoconservatives" following the philosophy of Irving Kristol, a Trotskyite communist and member of the "Fourth International". Lincoln himself, the original Republican Party president, was on friendly terms with Karl Marx, the reputed founder of Communism.)

And all of the mess we find ourselves in is due entirely to the long-standing American traditional repudiation of God's Word as the foundation for all true freedom, whether individual, familial, or national. Our acceptance of Jacobin antinomian humanism, aka "liberty, equality, fraternity", and our rejection of God's Word as LAW for mankind's governance, has brought us exactly to where we are. More of the humanistic antinomian policies, endorsed by both parties and the vast majority of Americans (including the vast majority of so called Christians) will simply give us more of the same results.

Repentance is the only way out of the black hole we are circling into.

I get what your saying and I've heard it for years and partly believe it about the rejection of God's Law to govern our country. Im not sure what we expect our population to do. We say things like its an abomination to be homosexual so the population should turn against it right. we are against gambling and alcohol and drugs and bribery and such things abortion etc.
But what is it we expect them to do? Or how does a secular nation govern Gods People according to God's Law? The scriptures were not written to secular nations about governing God's people but its written to God's people about how the Church is governed within secular nations. So what part of the scripture should a secular government implement to be considered Governing according to God's Law? IMO the nations USA included have always had their backs turned on God and the Church has always stood with God. (The real church that is). Do we think that if our government turns back R vs W or same sex marriage that our nation is turning back to God? They may be great things to do but turning back to God is a long shot from just overturning a couple laws. Especially since even the religious founders of the good ole USA were most likely not saved in the first place. Surely by the phrase turn back to God its meant turn to God for the first time the bible way Acts 2:38.

Esaias
10-25-2018, 09:09 AM
I get what your saying and I've heard it for years and partly believe it about the rejection of God's Law to govern our country. Im not sure what we expect our population to do. We say things like its an abomination to be homosexual so the population should turn against it right. we are against gambling and alcohol and drugs and bribery and such things abortion etc.
But what is it we expect them to do? Or how does a secular nation govern Gods People according to God's Law? The scriptures were not written to secular nations about governing God's people but its written to God's people about how the Church is governed within secular nations. So what part of the scripture should a secular government implement to be considered Governing according to God's Law? IMO the nations USA included have always had their backs turned on God and the Church has always stood with God. (The real church that is). Do we think that if our government turns back R vs W or same sex marriage that our nation is turning back to God? They may be great things to do but turning back to God is a long shot from just overturning a couple laws. Especially since even the religious founders of the good ole USA were most likely not saved in the first place. Surely by the phrase turn back to God its meant turn to God for the first time the bible way Acts 2:38.

"We didn't get into this mess overnight, so we ain't getting out of it overnight, either." So I once heard a preacher say.

Who ever receives a prophet, receives a prophet's reward. In other words, it's ALWAYS better to make decisions based on God's Word than to not do so. So, here's a basic plan of action:

Since people have segregated God from public life, as if God reigns in the Sunday sanctuary but NOT in the election booth, what needs to happen is the church needs to once again preach the Sovereignty of God over ALL areas of life, and leave no doubt as to what that includes.

All we can do is witness, God will do the rest. Either He will be gracious and turn people's hearts to seek His ways, or He will not and America will be doomed. I don't think we've really considered that, it certainly doesn't seem to have sunk in to too many people's heads and hearts.

Meanwhile, we must live out God's Word, understanding that WE are the future. If America gets wiped out by God because of our national sins and stupidities, there will be a remnant who by the grace of God will carry on the work of the Kingdom. Nations rise and fall, but God's Truth marches on.

Currently, too many churches offer only a plan for escape, rather than a plan for victory. I believe that needs to change, rather soon in fact.

You asked: "...how does a secular nation govern Gods People according to God's Law?" It can't. Therefore, it needs to cease being a secular nation, and become a righteous nation. And that requires us to herald the claims of our Conquering King.

Esaias
10-25-2018, 09:20 AM
Judges 6.

Long story short, the nation fell into sinfulness, so God allowed the Midianites to swarm in and begin to displace Israel. It got so bad the people eventually began to cry out to God. God's response was to send them a prophet who told them what's actually going on.

The beatings will continue until morale improves, in other words.

When enough people have had enough, and give up on flesh efforts to solve things, they will begin to cry out to God. And that's usually when God sends a Messenger to point the way.

That Messenger in this day and age is the Church.

Esaias
10-25-2018, 07:13 PM
U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Spokesman Tyler Houlton verified that the caravan is riddled with numerous gang members and males with Middle Eastern and Asian origins.

“There are individuals within the caravan who are gang members or have significant criminal histories,” Houlton stated on Tuesday, according to WND. “Citizens of countries outside Central America – including countries in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia and elsewhere – are currently traveling through Mexico toward the U.S.”

https://www.onenewsnow.com/national-security/2018/10/24/evidence-americans-funding-gang-middle-eastern-laced-caravan

houston
10-27-2018, 01:17 PM
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6375&stc=1&d=1540667847

Evang.Benincasa
10-27-2018, 02:06 PM
That's funny.

houston
10-28-2018, 09:36 AM
They’re sending JAG’s to the border!?

https://spectator.org/the-pentagon-isnt-serious-about-stopping-the-caravan/

Esaias
10-28-2018, 03:59 PM
The open borders group behind the illegal alien caravan marching to the US border is funded by several liberal organizations including Soros’s Open Society.

The Pueblo Sin Fronteras (“People Without Borders”) is a project of La Familia Latina Unida, a Chicago, Illinois-based 501(c)(4) illegal immigration advocacy organization formed in 2001 by Elvira Arellano, an activist for immigrants living illegally in the United States.

The group is part of the CARA Coalition and is funded by a number of major left-of-center grantmaking foundations, including the Open Society Foundations, MacArthur Foundation, Ford Foundation, and Carnegie Corporation of New York.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/confirmed-open-borders-group-behind-illegal-alien-caravan-is-linked-to-soross-open-society/

Esaias
10-29-2018, 02:00 PM
Migrants in Caravan Reject Mexico’s Offer for Help, Heading to U.S. Instead

Mexico’s government unveiled a plan to provide employment, health care, and education to thousands of Central American migrants who are part of the caravan that is traveling from Honduras towards the U.S border.

UPDATE October 27, 9:20 CDT: Members of the migrant caravan from Honduras rejected Mexico’s offer of asylum, jobs, and benefits on Saturday, CBS and the Associated Press reported.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/10/27/mexico-offers-to-provide-jobs-education-to-caravan-migrants/

Esaias
10-29-2018, 02:43 PM
Civilian activists carrying guns and bulletproof vests are assembling at the US’ southern border in order to lend support to the US National Guard and Border Patrol, as a caravan of several thousand undocumented migrants moves towards the border.
US citizens bearing arms and gear are preparing to reinforce the US southern border, along with the Border Patrol and the National Guard, in order to stop the caravan of illegal migrants from crossing into the US.

https://sputniknews.com/us/201810271069258945-militia-groups-border-protection-caravan/

houston
10-29-2018, 03:53 PM
Even real migrants would reject Mexico’s offer. The cartels will kill non-Mexicans.

FlamingZword
10-29-2018, 11:47 PM
Yes there are some bad people that are probably in the caravans, but many of them are simply fleeing poverty and violence in their homeland.

Originalist
10-30-2018, 04:01 AM
Even real migrants would reject Mexico’s offer. The cartels will kill non-Mexicans.

Where did you get that idea from ?

houston
10-30-2018, 11:15 AM
Where did you get that idea from ?


Personal accounts.

Esaias
10-30-2018, 12:21 PM
Yes there are some bad people that are probably in the caravans, but many of them are simply fleeing poverty and violence in their homeland.

Almost all the so called caravan are military aged, foreign funded, well fed males, who are now getting violent with Guatemalan and Mexican authorities for trying to stop their invasion of those countries' borders. These aren't the droids you're looking for.

Esaias
10-31-2018, 12:11 PM
If you talk about the multiple invader caravans, and oppose them, you apparently support killing old Jews in Pennsylvania synagogues:

https://vdare.com/articles/after-pittsburgh-dem-msm-complex-moves-to-suppress-caravan-debate-but-trump-won-t-let-them

Originalist
10-31-2018, 12:19 PM
Personal accounts.



Actually, most of these "refugees" would gleefully work for the cartels in Mexico.

n david
10-31-2018, 12:25 PM
Never fear ... I saw this on the Twitter this morning:

https://twitter.com/JFNYC1/status/1057477715991912448

:toofunny

If you really believe this was a train headed to the border, with M1 Abrams, no less, bless your heart.

houston
10-31-2018, 12:36 PM
Never fear ... I saw this on the Twitter this morning:

https://twitter.com/JFNYC1/status/1057477715991912448

:toofunny

If you really believe this was a train headed to the border, with M1 Abrams, no less, bless your heart.

LOL! :spit

jediwill83
10-31-2018, 03:53 PM
Really good video on Birthright Citizenship.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZyqQn2Uoo8

Pressing-On
10-31-2018, 04:03 PM
The Supreme Court has never ruled on Illegal Aliens in this country. The only thing I could clearly see as making sense is the case in 1898, Wong Kim Ark. The court ruled that the children were legal citizens under the 14th Amendment because the parents were "legal" permanent resident citizens.

houston
10-31-2018, 04:09 PM
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6376&stc=1&d=1541023773

Pressing-On
10-31-2018, 04:14 PM
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6376&stc=1&d=1541023773

"Subject to the 'jurisdiction' thereof" is going to be the legal point. An illegal is subject to our laws - stealing, speeding, etc., but not subject to our Constitution as a citizen would be.

jediwill83
10-31-2018, 05:14 PM
The Supreme Court has never ruled on Illegal Aliens in this country. The only thing I could clearly see as making sense is the case in 1898, Wong Kim Ark. The court ruled that the children were legal citizens under the 14th Amendment because the parents were "legal" permanent resident citizens.


There is another case used that is talked about in the video. It was called the Slaughterhouse something or another...cant remember exactly but it was involving the "citizenship" of a native american man and the argument made was that the united states could not sue the man because he was a citizen of a Native American and thus under the tribes authority and allegiance. So since he could not be sued he was not under the judicial jurisdiction of the US and thus was NOT a citizen.

FlamingZword
10-31-2018, 09:14 PM
There is another case used that is talked about in the video. It was called the Slaughterhouse something or another...cant remember exactly but it was involving the "citizenship" of a native american man and the argument made was that the united states could not sue the man because he was a citizen of a Native American and thus under the tribes authority and allegiance. So since he could not be sued he was not under the judicial jurisdiction of the US and thus was NOT a citizen.

The Native American tribes had a complicated arrangement with the US government. Technically they are independent nations within the U.S. and they have their own laws in their tribal areas, they even have their own police force and even their own courts. However since they are still within the United Sates the laws of the US still apply to them when they step outside of their nations.

They are still considered United States Citizens within its Judicial jurisdiction.

Esaias
11-02-2018, 04:11 AM
So Trump's plan to protect the borders and the territorial integrity of our nation is to let all these caravaning invaders come into the US, and stay in the tent cities he's going to build for them, where we the taxpayer's will feed, clothe, and essentially take care of these people, until a "determination" can be made in each person's case?

I mean, I may not understand 8 dimensional chess, but it seems to me that if we ended welfare for illegals, treated illegals like practically every other country does (deporting them), we could save a lot of money AND curb the flow of illegals into the country, all at the same time. But like I said, I'm not a Grandmaster of 8D chess.

Esaias
11-02-2018, 04:13 AM
The Native American tribes had a complicated arrangement with the US government. Technically they are independent nations within the U.S. and they have their own laws in their tribal areas, they even have their own police force and even their own courts. However since they are still within the United Sates the laws of the US still apply to them when they step outside of their nations.

They are still considered United States Citizens within its Judicial jurisdiction.


Indian Citizenship Act

Other short titles Indian Freedom Citizenship Suffrage Act of 1924
Long title An Act to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to issue certificates of citizenship to Indians.
Acronyms (colloquial) ICA
Nicknames Snyder Act
Enacted by the 68th United States Congress
Effective June 2, 1924
Citations
Public law 68-175
Statutes at Large 43 Stat. 253
Codification
Titles amended 8 U.S.C.: Aliens and Nationality
U.S.C. sections amended 8 U.S.C. ch. 12, subch. III § 1401b
Legislative history
Introduced in the House as H.R. 6355 by Homer P. Snyder (R-NY) on February 22, 1924
Committee consideration by House Indian Affairs, Senate Indian Affairs
Passed the House on March 18, 1924 (Passed)
Passed the Senate on May 15, 1924 (Passed)
Agreed to by the House on May 23, 1924 (Agreed) and by the on
Signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924


The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was proposed by Representative Homer P. Snyder (R) of New York and granted full U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States, called "Indians" in this Act. While the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines as citizens any persons born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction, the amendment had been interpreted to not apply to Native people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act

jfrog
11-02-2018, 09:14 AM
I don’t know what subject to the jurisdiction of legally means but it sounds to me like it is meant to exclude those born in the U.S. that are not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.

It definitely applies to foreign soldiers. It applies to diplomats as far as I know.

This is why the invaders talk is so important. If illegal immigrants truly are invaders then they clearly aren’t subject to U.S. jurisdiction. IMO. It all ties together.

Esaias
12-02-2018, 01:44 PM
Democratic Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (Wash.) joined the migrant caravan on Saturday in their attempt to cross the border, condemning President Donald Trump for "creating the crisis." She said she was able to help five asylum seekers gain access to the United States.


"I was able to successfully assist 5 asylum seekers – 2 unaccompanied minors, a mother and her 9 year old child, and a young man with a serious medical condition – into the United States," she wrote in a tweet.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-jayapal-joins-migrant-caravan-for-border-crossing-helps-5-asylum-seekers-enter-u-s/

Esaias
12-02-2018, 01:52 PM
Democratic Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (Wash.) joined the migrant caravan on Saturday in their attempt to cross the border, condemning President Donald Trump for "creating the crisis." She said she was able to help five asylum seekers gain access to the United States.


"I was able to successfully assist 5 asylum seekers – 2 unaccompanied minors, a mother and her 9 year old child, and a young man with a serious medical condition – into the United States," she wrote in a tweet.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-jayapal-joins-migrant-caravan-for-border-crossing-helps-5-asylum-seekers-enter-u-s/

So a democrat lawmaker engages in human trafficking of minors and possibly dangerously contagious sick people, brags about it publicly, and gets away with it.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6399&stc=1&d=1543783930

Esaias
12-27-2018, 02:14 PM
EL PASO, Texas (KFOX14) —
About 518 migrants are expected to be released by U.S Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Wednesday, according Annunciation House director Ruben Garcia.

That makes more than 1,000 migrants released in the past three days.

https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/about-500-migrants-released-by-ice-wednesday-over-1000-released-past-few-days

Esaias
05-18-2019, 01:01 AM
The Trump administration is preparing to send Central American migrants caught along the southern border to Border Patrol stations "across the entire nation," according to a senior Border Patrol official who confirmed the plans Friday.
With more than 4,500 people being caught each day crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, the agency has run out of room at its Border Patrol facilities in the four border states. The agency has started looking at its facilities around the country, which are mostly along the northern border with Canada and coastal states.

...

The CBP official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to brief reporters on the agency's internal discussions, said politics is not playing a role in its search for places to process and release migrant families despite President Donald Trump's comments that he wants to send migrants to so-called "sanctuary cities" that do not fully cooperate with federal immigration officials.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/17/border-patrol-cbp-release-central-american-migrants-across-entire-nation/3710025002/