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Evang.Benincasa
11-22-2018, 06:59 AM
In 1948 Harry S Truman called Israel a nation. Not God, because God evicted one group who was legitimate, could prove who everyone was in their group.
They were evicted because they rebelled. No where in the Bible, do we have a rebellious nay saying people have land granted to them, especially if they had been kicked out. Kicked out by God. Also if they were even legitimate Judeans, and Israelites brought back by God (without Christ) we are now dealing with why? That is what needs to be explained? The Church would have to be separate entity then Israel.

Esaias
11-22-2018, 07:40 AM
Millions Now Living Will Ne----

Oh, wait, my bad, wrong thread.

:)

Evang.Benincasa
11-22-2018, 08:34 AM
Millions Now Living Will Ne----

Oh, wait, my bad, wrong thread.

:)

https://www.jwfacts.com/images/1914-The-Generation-that-will-not-pass-away.jpg

Evang.Benincasa
11-22-2018, 09:15 AM
In 1948 did the European Zionist Jews have the temple mount? No, do they have it today? No? We are told that God has a reconstruction plan Israel. We are also told by a member of this forum

TO YOU.....there is no Jewish nation in the world today. Everyone else who has been watching the news since 1948 knows how ludicrous this is.

No one is denying that there are people who are called Jews. But they aren't called Jews because they were born from the tribe of Judah, or in the land of Judea. A land which ceased to exist, as Canaan ceased to exist. No, the modern Jews today are either religiously Jewish, or culturally Jewish. Not Biblically Jewish, or legitimate Biblical Israelites to who the promises were made. The whole watching the news about Israel is a dispensationalist mantra. The reprobate John Hagee (I call him reprobate due to his book denying Christ as the real Jewish Messiah) make it that the American Church's job is still defend Israel to the very last American life. If asked, isn't the job of the church to convert the Jew out of his antichrist religion. The term antichrist is used to present the fact, that Rabbinical Judaism not only blasphemes by denying Christ, but goes further to disprove that He is indeed the Christ. Then the question must be asked to those who actually believe that the Jews living today are the real life descendants of Biblical Israel and Judah? How can they prove this? How is God elated to call them His own, while they curse Christ? While they like all Christ haters around the world actively seek to tare down Christ Rabbi Tovia Singer, and Jews for Judaism?
What sets the precedent? Why would God take a people He originally kicked out of the land for rejecting His Son, Matthew 21:41, Mark 12:9, Luke 20:16, 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16. Be brought back into the land again? So, Jesus can go to some greater length to prove Himself to them. Did Jesus perform something greater than His resurrection for Thomas? NO! Jesus offered Thomas the physical, but when Thomas refused and acknowledge Jesus as God, Jesus replied Then Jesus told him, "You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me." John 20:29.


Or is it a mere talking point for anti semite "Christians"?

That's a lie, because I have always defended Modern Jews against the accusations of those who want to make them accountable for the death of Christ. Or would try to make them out to be behind every single problem in the world today.

Evang.Benincasa
11-22-2018, 09:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KaDX6yjKt4&ab_channel=Sweettina2

Light
11-22-2018, 10:32 AM
That's a lie, because I have always defended Modern Jews against the accusations of those who want to make them accountable for the death of Christ. Or would try to make them out to be behind every single problem in the world today.

I think the man that God gave the KEYS to disagrees with you.

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye ( men of Israel ) have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Evang.Benincasa
11-22-2018, 12:00 PM
I think the man that God gave the KEYS to disagrees with you.

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye ( men of Israel ) have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

You obviously failed to read any of the thread.

Therefore your post is irrelevant.

P.S.

Say a special Thanksgiving prayer for the President of the United States as he makes this country Great Again!

Birddog
11-23-2018, 08:55 AM
Heh heh heh.

mfblume
11-23-2018, 09:10 AM
Millions Now Living Will Ne----

Oh, wait, my bad, wrong thread.

:)

:lol

Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2018, 11:27 AM
http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.html

Some more Fulfilled Prophecies: 1948 & Beyond
54 prophecies fulfilled in 60 years (Dr. Ken Johnson)

1948
Israel will be reestablished as a nation. Isaiah 11:11

British ships will be the first to bring the Jewish people home. Isaiah 60:9

Israel will come back as one nation, not two. Hosea 1:11; Ezekiel 37:18,19,22

Israel will be reestablished by a leader named David. Hosea 3:5

The revived state will be named Israel. Ezekiel 37:11

The Star of David will be on the Israeli flag. Isaiah 11:10

The nation will be reestablished in the ancient land of Canaan. Jeremiah 30:2,3; Ezekiel 37:12

Israel will no longer speak of being freed from Egypt. Jeremiah 16:14,15

Israel will not be restored as a monarchy. Micah 5:5

Israel will be established on the date predicted. Daniel 4; Ezekiel 4:4-6

The Hebrew language will be revived in Israel. Jeremiah 31:23

Jerusalem will be divided. Zechariah 14:1-3

JorDaniel will occupy the West Bank. Zephaniah 2:8; Zechariah 12:1-7

Israel will be initially restored without Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:1-7

Israel will have a fierce military (fire-pot). Zechariah 12:1-7; Isaiah 41

Israel will be reestablished by the fourth craftsman. Zechariah 1:18-21

The Jewish people will come back in unbelief. Ezekiel 37:7-8,11

First Shepherd will arise. Micah 5:5-8

1949
Yemenite Jews will return. Isaiah 43:3-7

1951
Israel will control Ashkelon. Zechariah 9:1-8

1953
Egypt will no longer have kings (Suez crises). Zechariah 10:9-11

1967
Second Shepherd will arise. Micah 5:5-8
The 1967 war will occur on the date predicted. Daniel 5
Five Egyptian cities will be conquered by the Israelis.Isaiah 19:16-18
JorDaniel will give up the West Bank. Zechariah 12:6
West Bank Jews will go home to Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:6

1968
Israel will control Ashdod. Zechariah 9:1-8

1973
Yom Kippur War will occur. Micah 5:5-8
Jerusalem will be a burden to all nations. Zechariah 12:2,3

1980
The shekel will be revived as Israeli currency. Ezekiel 45:1,2

1981
Third Shepherd will arise. Micah 5:5-8
Israel will attack Iraqi (Nuclear) facility. Micah 5:5-8

1982
Israel will give back the Sinai peninsula. Zechariah 10:6
First Lebanese War will occur (fire-pot). Zechariah 12:6

1989
The Berlin Wall will fall. Ezekiel 38:4-6

1990
Ethiopian Jews will be brought to Israel. Isaiah 18:1-7

~2000
Cities will be restored and Israel will have non-Jewish farmers. Isaiah 61:4,5; Zephaniah 2
Jerusalem will grow beyond its old walls. Zechariah 2:4,5
Land of Israel will be divided by its rivers and by Muslims. Isaiah 18:1-7
Tourists will fly in and support Israel. Isaiah 60:8-10; Isaiah 61
There will be constant planting and reaping (crops). Amos 9:13-15
Forests will reappear in Israel (cedar, etc). Isaiah 41:18-20
Desolate land and cities will be restored. Ezekiel 36:33-36
Five cities will stay desolate. Matthew 11:20-24
Muslims will not reckon Israel among nations. Numbers 23:9
Israel will inherit remnant of Edom/Palestinians. Amos 9:12
Satellite-Television Communication Systems invented. Revelation 17:8

2004
Sanhedrin will be reestablished. Matthew 24:15,20

2005
Palestinians will want Jerusalem as their capital. Ezekiel 36:2,7,10-11
Gaza will be forsaken. Zephaniah 2:4
Russia and Iran will sign a military defense pact. Ezekiel 38:3-8

2006
Second Lebanese War will occur. Psalm 83:1-18

2010
Turkey makes a military pact with Russia. Ezekiel 38:3-8

Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2018, 12:08 PM
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n66mTMVtyzw/WaVYRfT-oxI/AAAAAAAAAx0/eV0oL0_Z3WMpvGOS6SLGL1WX9Q-YwmutACPcBGAYYCw/s1600/1948.png



Most everyone knows that the re-birth of Israel occurred in 1948 (May 14th); but the significance of this date/number goes beyond just one date or event. In this article I will show how this number/date is related to scripture, marks the start of the final countdown to the end of days and is much more fascinating and significant than just one event. Here are the facts --

1) The 19th book and the 48th chapter in the Bible (Psalm 48) describes the re-birth of Israel and Jerusalem. It's also interesting that this chapter (48) has 14 verses and the fact that the rebirth of Israel took place on May 14th.

2) Psalm is the 19th book of the Bible (counting from the beginning - Genesis). If you go to the end of the Bible (beginning with Revelation) and count backwards then Psalm is the 48th book -- again you have 1948.

3) If you add 19 to 48 (19+48) you have 67. Is it a coincidence that the liberation of Jerusalem happened in 1967?

4) If you add the individual digits of 1948 together (1+9+4+8) you have a total of 22. Would it be a coincidence then that Revelation has 22 chapters? Would it also be a coincidence that the last 3 feasts yet to be fulfilled (Trumpets, Atonement, & Tabernacles) cover a period of 22 days from Tishri 1 through Tishri 22 on the Jewish calendar? To me this is like a confirmation that the re-birth of Israel is tied directly to the last days and fulfillment of Revelation.

5) The coming year of 2018 will be 1,948 years since the destruction of the second Temple in 70 A.D. To this one I must add the fact that this same year, 2018, will be exactly 70 years from the rebirth of Israel. We are told that the length of a generation is 70 years (80 if by strength/good health) in Psalm 90:10. Remember - we are told by the parable of the fig tree that the generation that sees the re-birth of Israel will not pas away until all things are fulfilled. See: Matthew 24:32-35, Mark 13:28-31, and Luke 21: 29-33.

The importance of the information above is that we, as Christians, who are watching (as we are told to do in Matthew 24:42-44, Mark 13:32-37, & Luke 21 34-36) should see these things as signs (in my opinion) that the end is very close. By seeing these things we should also have the sense of urgency we need to prepare ourselves and be getting busy "being about our Father's business"!

I would ask you to consider this -- What are the odds that the numbering of books in the Bible and the way that all these things add up and align with events could happen by chance; given the fact that these things were written thousands of years ago!!

As always - keep looking up and may God bless!

https://rev12daily.blogspot.com/2018/02/fascinating-insights-into-1948-and-bible.html

Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2018, 02:27 PM
https://mikeblume.com/regather.htm

jediwill83
11-23-2018, 05:15 PM
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n66mTMVtyzw/WaVYRfT-oxI/AAAAAAAAAx0/eV0oL0_Z3WMpvGOS6SLGL1WX9Q-YwmutACPcBGAYYCw/s1600/1948.png



Most everyone knows that the re-birth of Israel occurred in 1948 (May 14th); but the significance of this date/number goes beyond just one date or event. In this article I will show how this number/date is related to scripture, marks the start of the final countdown to the end of days and is much more fascinating and significant than just one event. Here are the facts --

1) The 19th book and the 48th chapter in the Bible (Psalm 48) describes the re-birth of Israel and Jerusalem. It's also interesting that this chapter (48) has 14 verses and the fact that the rebirth of Israel took place on May 14th.

2) Psalm is the 19th book of the Bible (counting from the beginning - Genesis). If you go to the end of the Bible (beginning with Revelation) and count backwards then Psalm is the 48th book -- again you have 1948.

3) If you add 19 to 48 (19+48) you have 67. Is it a coincidence that the liberation of Jerusalem happened in 1967?

4) If you add the individual digits of 1948 together (1+9+4+8) you have a total of 22. Would it be a coincidence then that Revelation has 22 chapters? Would it also be a coincidence that the last 3 feasts yet to be fulfilled (Trumpets, Atonement, & Tabernacles) cover a period of 22 days from Tishri 1 through Tishri 22 on the Jewish calendar? To me this is like a confirmation that the re-birth of Israel is tied directly to the last days and fulfillment of Revelation.

5) The coming year of 2018 will be 1,948 years since the destruction of the second Temple in 70 A.D. To this one I must add the fact that this same year, 2018, will be exactly 70 years from the rebirth of Israel. We are told that the length of a generation is 70 years (80 if by strength/good health) in Psalm 90:10. Remember - we are told by the parable of the fig tree that the generation that sees the re-birth of Israel will not pas away until all things are fulfilled. See: Matthew 24:32-35, Mark 13:28-31, and Luke 21: 29-33.

The importance of the information above is that we, as Christians, who are watching (as we are told to do in Matthew 24:42-44, Mark 13:32-37, & Luke 21 34-36) should see these things as signs (in my opinion) that the end is very close. By seeing these things we should also have the sense of urgency we need to prepare ourselves and be getting busy "being about our Father's business"!

I would ask you to consider this -- What are the odds that the numbering of books in the Bible and the way that all these things add up and align with events could happen by chance; given the fact that these things were written thousands of years ago!!

As always - keep looking up and may God bless!

https://rev12daily.blogspot.com/2018/02/fascinating-insights-into-1948-and-bible.html


Im all for digging and learning but chapters and verses were added to the Bible in the 1500's werent they?


Are we saying that further revelation was only able to be revealed once some guy broke up scripture into numbered fragments?


Just not a argument id use for that kind of revelation to be put forth...a little "Biblecody" for me.


Maybe Im wrong...I often am but this is whats jumping out at me while Im reading this.

Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2018, 06:40 PM
Im all for digging and learning but chapters and verses were added to the Bible in the 1500's werent they?


Are we saying that further revelation was only able to be revealed once some guy broke up scripture into numbered fragments?


Just not a argument id use for that kind of revelation to be put forth...a little "Biblecody" for me.


Maybe Im wrong...I often am but this is whats jumping out at me while Im reading this.

Here it is all in this little chart. :nod

http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/images/TIMELINE%20end%20of%20agesm.jpg

Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2018, 06:45 PM
Here is more.


http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/doctrine/TIMELINE%20endtimes.jpg

Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2018, 09:55 PM
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/chemical-engineering/10-571j-atmospheric-physics-and-chemistry-spring-2006/10-571js06.jpg

mfblume
11-24-2018, 09:12 AM
Most everyone knows that the re-birth of Israel occurred in 1948 (May 14th); but the significance of this date/number goes beyond just one date or event. In this article I will show how this number/date is related to scripture, marks the start of the final countdown to the end of days and is much more fascinating and significant than just one event. Here are the facts --

1) The 19th book and the 48th chapter in the Bible (Psalm 48) describes the re-birth of Israel and Jerusalem. It's also interesting that this chapter (48) has 14 verses and the fact that the rebirth of Israel took place on May 14th.

2) Psalm is the 19th book of the Bible (counting from the beginning - Genesis). If you go to the end of the Bible (beginning with Revelation) and count backwards then Psalm is the 48th book -- again you have 1948.

3) If you add 19 to 48 (19+48) you have 67. Is it a coincidence that the liberation of Jerusalem happened in 1967?

4) If you add the individual digits of 1948 together (1+9+4+8) you have a total of 22. Would it be a coincidence then that Revelation has 22 chapters? Would it also be a coincidence that the last 3 feasts yet to be fulfilled (Trumpets, Atonement, & Tabernacles) cover a period of 22 days from Tishri 1 through Tishri 22 on the Jewish calendar? To me this is like a confirmation that the re-birth of Israel is tied directly to the last days and fulfillment of Revelation.

5) The coming year of 2018 will be 1,948 years since the destruction of the second Temple in 70 A.D. To this one I must add the fact that this same year, 2018, will be exactly 70 years from the rebirth of Israel. We are told that the length of a generation is 70 years (80 if by strength/good health) in Psalm 90:10. Remember - we are told by the parable of the fig tree that the generation that sees the re-birth of Israel will not pas away until all things are fulfilled. See: Matthew 24:32-35, Mark 13:28-31, and Luke 21: 29-33.

The importance of the information above is that we, as Christians, who are watching (as we are told to do in Matthew 24:42-44, Mark 13:32-37, & Luke 21 34-36) should see these things as signs (in my opinion) that the end is very close. By seeing these things we should also have the sense of urgency we need to prepare ourselves and be getting busy "being about our Father's business"!

I would ask you to consider this -- What are the odds that the numbering of books in the Bible and the way that all these things add up and align with events could happen by chance; given the fact that these things were written thousands of years ago!!

As always - keep looking up and may God bless!

https://rev12daily.blogspot.com/2018/02/fascinating-insights-into-1948-and-bible.html

Lol. Unbelievable. Sighhhhhhh.

Evang.Benincasa
11-24-2018, 09:45 AM
Lol. Unbelievable. Sighhhhhhh.

This is from people not taking in the logical facts of what they are actually dealing with. Number one, who are the people who were originally ousted by God, and were not allowed to return for 70 years. That was the Judeans (and other tribal remnants) who were carried off into captivity. Nehemiah and Ezra both are witnesses to that return. They also made it mandatory for the descendants of the former inhabitants of Israel/Judea/Jerusalem to prove who they were, and their standing within the commonwealth. Without this information, no one could take lands, be priests, work in or around the temple construction and maintenance. A lot of things are involved in genealogy of the Israel/Judea/Jerusalem family governmental culture. God preserved them while they were in Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar family rule, then later with the Media Persian rule. Everyone was able to regroup in Jerusalem and stand before Judean officials and prove who they were, and who they were related. They were the descendants of the Mount Sinai group, therefore being the actual covenant recipients. In 70 A.D. under the Iron Beast with teeth like swords, and crashing feet, the Judeans, and remnants who rejected the son of the vineyard master , werre out of luck, and totally out of time. It is mind blowing that those who profess Jesus Christ as Lord and King, tend short circuit with the that rejection of the Messiah by the Judeans in the first century A. D. was super bad, and that God was totally over it already, that they filled up the cup to overflowing with trangeressions. Still God mercy endures and that Jesus' apostles warned as the ark was a building, and gathered the accepting remnant clean animals, with the Gentiles unclean animals into the domestic olive tree, the Body of Christ, the True Israel of God. Yet, unlike when Babylon smashed into Jerusalem, the Romans did far worst, they laid it even with the ground Luke 19:44. The Judeans (and Israeli tribal remnant) were blended into all the nations around them. A regathering in 1948? Sounds extremely dramatic and romantic, but absolutely impossible. Do you have a culturally Jewish nation called israel? Most certainly. Are they the lineage of the same group that was ousted, absolutely not.

Evang.Benincasa
11-24-2018, 09:53 AM
I cannot stress this point enough, if we take eschatology into the future, you need the same people group who was taken out of the land. Just like Jesus had a lineage to prove who He was. The same goes for those you would want for your eschatology in the future. Or else what is he significance of Jerusalem today? The Modern Jew today? You know that they are Japanese Jews, and Chinese Jews. But if the zionists in the turn of the century would of placed their nation in Uganda in 1948, a lot less would be hooping and hollering that it was Biblical Israel. Don't get me wrong, Dispensationalists would of Alley Ooped their way up and over that obstacle, to give you reasons the Bible condoned Israel in Africa.

Esaias
11-28-2018, 02:50 AM
This would be a more accurate futurist chart:

Esaias
11-28-2018, 02:57 AM
http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.html

Some more Fulfilled Prophecies: 1948 & Beyond
54 prophecies fulfilled in 60 years (Dr. Ken Johnson)

1948
Israel will be reestablished as a nation. Isaiah 11:11

British ships will be the first to bring the Jewish people home. Isaiah 60:9

Israel will come back as one nation, not two. Hosea 1:11; Ezekiel 37:18,19,22

Israel will be reestablished by a leader named David. Hosea 3:5

The revived state will be named Israel. Ezekiel 37:11

The Star of David will be on the Israeli flag. Isaiah 11:10

The nation will be reestablished in the ancient land of Canaan. Jeremiah 30:2,3; Ezekiel 37:12

Israel will no longer speak of being freed from Egypt. Jeremiah 16:14,15

Israel will not be restored as a monarchy. Micah 5:5

Israel will be established on the date predicted. Daniel 4; Ezekiel 4:4-6

The Hebrew language will be revived in Israel. Jeremiah 31:23

Jerusalem will be divided. Zechariah 14:1-3

JorDaniel will occupy the West Bank. Zephaniah 2:8; Zechariah 12:1-7

Israel will be initially restored without Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:1-7

Israel will have a fierce military (fire-pot). Zechariah 12:1-7; Isaiah 41

Israel will be reestablished by the fourth craftsman. Zechariah 1:18-21

The Jewish people will come back in unbelief. Ezekiel 37:7-8,11

First Shepherd will arise. Micah 5:5-8

1949
Yemenite Jews will return. Isaiah 43:3-7

1951
Israel will control Ashkelon. Zechariah 9:1-8

1953
Egypt will no longer have kings (Suez crises). Zechariah 10:9-11

1967
Second Shepherd will arise. Micah 5:5-8
The 1967 war will occur on the date predicted. Daniel 5
Five Egyptian cities will be conquered by the Israelis.Isaiah 19:16-18
JorDaniel will give up the West Bank. Zechariah 12:6
West Bank Jews will go home to Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:6

1968
Israel will control Ashdod. Zechariah 9:1-8

1973
Yom Kippur War will occur. Micah 5:5-8
Jerusalem will be a burden to all nations. Zechariah 12:2,3

1980
The shekel will be revived as Israeli currency. Ezekiel 45:1,2

1981
Third Shepherd will arise. Micah 5:5-8
Israel will attack Iraqi (Nuclear) facility. Micah 5:5-8

1982
Israel will give back the Sinai peninsula. Zechariah 10:6
First Lebanese War will occur (fire-pot). Zechariah 12:6

1989
The Berlin Wall will fall. Ezekiel 38:4-6

1990
Ethiopian Jews will be brought to Israel. Isaiah 18:1-7

~2000
Cities will be restored and Israel will have non-Jewish farmers. Isaiah 61:4,5; Zephaniah 2
Jerusalem will grow beyond its old walls. Zechariah 2:4,5
Land of Israel will be divided by its rivers and by Muslims. Isaiah 18:1-7
Tourists will fly in and support Israel. Isaiah 60:8-10; Isaiah 61
There will be constant planting and reaping (crops). Amos 9:13-15
Forests will reappear in Israel (cedar, etc). Isaiah 41:18-20
Desolate land and cities will be restored. Ezekiel 36:33-36
Five cities will stay desolate. Matthew 11:20-24
Muslims will not reckon Israel among nations. Numbers 23:9
Israel will inherit remnant of Edom/Palestinians. Amos 9:12
Satellite-Television Communication Systems invented. Revelation 17:8

2004
Sanhedrin will be reestablished. Matthew 24:15,20

2005
Palestinians will want Jerusalem as their capital. Ezekiel 36:2,7,10-11
Gaza will be forsaken. Zephaniah 2:4
Russia and Iran will sign a military defense pact. Ezekiel 38:3-8

2006
Second Lebanese War will occur. Psalm 83:1-18

2010
Turkey makes a military pact with Russia. Ezekiel 38:3-8

He forgot the parts about Israel being established by Nazi collaborators, the Irgun terrorism campaign, and that Israel would become the number one gay vacation hotspot in the world, as well as the human trafficking capital and sex-slave capital of the world...