Are you ready?

[Esaias]

Homeland Security has recently suggested all citizens stock up on food, water, medicine, etc for a recommended 6 month supply due to power outages from catastrophic damage to equipment.

Meanwhile, Russia has placed strategic bombers in Venezuela, and more importantly has begun flying "training missions" over the Caribbean.

Put 2 and 2 together and you might come up with 4...

[Scott Pitta]

If nuclear war was on the horizon, I am quite certain other branches of government would be rather clear and outspoken about it.

End of the world ?? Bring it on.

[Esaias]

If nuclear war was on the horizon, I am quite certain other branches of government would be rather clear and outspoken about it.

End of the world ?? Bring it on.

This thread wasn't for you. Sorry!

[Amanah]

Homeland Security has recently suggested all citizens stock up on food, water, medicine, etc for a recommended 6 month supply due to power outages from catastrophic damage to equipment.

Meanwhile, Russia has placed strategic bombers in Venezuela, and more importantly has begun flying "training missions" over the Caribbean.

Put 2 and 2 together and you might come up with 4...

If this is the case I would recommend getting as fit and healthy as possible and trying to get off as many meds as possible.

Also, start a victory garden and have some chickens.

Be Informed:

https://www.ready.gov/be-informed

The Strategic Plan:

https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/1533052524696-b5137201a4614ade5e0129ef01cbf661/strat_plan.pdf

[jediwill83]

Homeland Security has recently suggested all citizens stock up on food, water, medicine, etc for a recommended 6 month supply due to power outages from catastrophic damage to equipment.

Meanwhile, Russia has placed strategic bombers in Venezuela, and more importantly has begun flying "training missions" over the Caribbean.

Put 2 and 2 together and you might come up with 4...




Links for references?

[Truthseeker]

Better start getting AR 15 and lots of ammo. You will have fight to keep what you stocked up.

[Michael The Disciple]

Nuclear war and the end of the world are not NECESSARILY the same. There could be nuclear war and then DECADES pass before the great tribulation scenario comes into play.

There might be several nuclear wars between now and then. At any rate it makes sense to stock up what you can. Just dont harden yourself toward the poor.

[Michael The Disciple]

Homeland Security has recently suggested all citizens stock up on food, water, medicine, etc for a recommended 6 month supply due to power outages from catastrophic damage to equipment.

Meanwhile, Russia has placed strategic bombers in Venezuela, and more importantly has begun flying "training missions" over the Caribbean.

Put 2 and 2 together and you might come up with 4...

In the past they only suggested 3 days of supplies.

[Michael The Disciple]

If nuclear war was on the horizon, I am quite certain other branches of government would be rather clear and outspoken about it.

End of the world ?? Bring it on.

Actually the government would try hard to keep you from thinking about it. They would say NEVER FEAR! CONTINUE TO SPEND!

Right up to the time when the bombers were on their way and the ICBM's were in the air. I am surprised Homeland Security issued the statement they did.

Think of it like this. TWICE since DT has been President we have sent warships to the Syrian coasts and fired missiles into territory where RUSSIAN SOLDIERS were nearby.

Did the government send out a warning to us that we might be hit in a retalitory strike? NO WAY! Not a word for us to prepare for the possibility of EMP or all out war.

Their GREATEST fear is that it might hurt the stock market. So they probably would give us no warning.

[Pressing-On]

Good luck holding on to your garden, your food stockpile, etc. Someone who is not stockpiling is going to take it. Try stopping a desperate person... It would be worse than Black Friday.

Better to trust in the Lord, the Maker of Heaven and Earth.

[Michael The Disciple]

Good luck holding on to your garden, your food stockpile, etc. Someone who is not stockpiling is going to take it. Try stopping a desperate person... It would be worse than Black Friday.

Better to trust in the Lord, the Maker of Heaven and Earth.

So if one stocks up what they can afford, and is still generous to those in need are they NOT trusting in the Lord, maker of heaven and earth?

[Michael The Disciple]

I think Preachers have been so soothing over the years they have rocked most to sleep to the possibility of living in a nation unprotected by the Constitution.

It would work 2 ways. Some it would cause to get closer to Jesus, seeking him in the secret place. Realizing their great need for Jesus they would do whatever they had to in order to make their calling and election sure.

On the other hand many, having been spoiled by the preaching of how God would NEVER allow his people to experience truly hard times, would turn back to the flesh and do whatever they had to to save their life IN THIS WORLD.

[KeptByTheWord]

Good luck holding on to your garden, your food stockpile, etc. Someone who is not stockpiling is going to take it. Try stopping a desperate person... It would be worse than Black Friday.

Better to trust in the Lord, the Maker of Heaven and Earth.

I agree. There is no way you could ever truly be prepared, without the help of the Lord. Makes me think of Joseph, and the famine Egypt faced. Without the help of the Lord showing them how to prepare, they would have all died. But the Lord granted mercy and knowledge to them as to how to prepare.

I believe He can still do the same today.

[Esaias]

A lot of people have the notion that doing nothing is "trusting in the Lord." If Noah had the faith they have, he and his family would have drowned.

Regarding the "it's futile to resist" idea that "someone will just come and take your stuff", if that were true it would be pointless to ever own anything, ever lock your door, build a fence, own a car, etc. The learned helplessness so many Americans wallow in is sad.

[Pressing-On]

So if one stocks up what they can afford, and is still generous to those in need are they NOT trusting in the Lord, maker of heaven and earth?

It is always great to be generous. Not such a problem if it is an area of the country, i.e. a county having a problem. You could always drive to another county or state to gather sustenance.

However, you get the whole country in the same situation, where do you go? This country wouldn't know what to do other than to act like a Black Friday gone bad.

You would have a whole lot of bad actors taking your stuff, pillaging your garden at night, etc. Just look how people acted during WWII. Turning against each other so that they could eat and have a place to sleep. They felt they had no choice, because they couldn't get out of their respective countries.

[Pressing-On]

A lot of people have the notion that doing nothing is "trusting in the Lord." If Noah had the faith they have, he and his family would have drowned.

Regarding the "it's futile to resist" idea that "someone will just come and take your stuff", if that were true it would be pointless to ever own anything, ever lock your door, build a fence, own a car, etc. The learned helplessness so many Americans wallow in is sad.

Glad you brought up Noah. He wouldn't have known what to do unless the Lord had directed him. Noah wouldn't have known anything was going to take place unless GOD had spoken to him.

So, the fearmongering is reminding me of Y2K. Our children wanted to know why we weren't stockpiling for the crash. We told them that God hadn't spoke to us about it, so we weren't doing anything and that they needed to be careful not to get caught up in fear. It can make you believe and do crazy things.

[Pressing-On]

And BTW, do you have any idea how hard it is to stock up on water for a hurricane? We are at the mercy of God.

[Jito463]

A lot of people have the notion that doing nothing is "trusting in the Lord." If Noah had the faith they have, he and his family would have drowned.

:nod

[Esaias]

Glad you brought up Noah. He wouldn't have known what to do unless the Lord had directed him. Noah wouldn't have known anything was going to take place unless GOD had spoken to him.

So, the fearmongering is reminding me of Y2K. Our children wanted to know why we weren't stockpiling for the crash. We told them that God hadn't spoke to us about it, so we weren't doing anything and that they needed to be careful not to get caught up in fear. It can make you believe and do crazy things.

:laffatu

[Esaias]

And BTW, do you have any idea how hard it is to stock up on water for a hurricane? We are at the mercy of God.

That's funny, I've never had a problem with that. The people who have problems like that are usually either broke and/or homeless, or else they wait till the last minute and then mysteriously find supplies are no longer available.

My heart goes out to the first group. Not so much to the second.

[jediwill83]

I admit im nowhere near prepared. Too many immediate needs that I focused on while feeling no real hope for the future.


Now that we are digging out, I really need to work on putting a plan into action.


Im thinking on getting a storage unit and get it yearly and use it to store supplies since we are pressed for space here.

[Scott Pitta]

So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.

[Esaias]

So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.

Of course that means you don't work, get paid, and buy things, right? Oh, wait...

[Esaias]

I admit im nowhere near prepared. Too many immediate needs that I focused on while feeling no real hope for the future.


Now that we are digging out, I really need to work on putting a plan into action.


Im thinking on getting a storage unit and get it yearly and use it to store supplies since we are pressed for space here.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Therefore, I'd be wary about off-site storage of necessary items. Just saying...

[Esaias]

I admit im nowhere near prepared. Too many immediate needs that I focused on while feeling no real hope for the future.


Now that we are digging out, I really need to work on putting a plan into action.


Im thinking on getting a storage unit and get it yearly and use it to store supplies since we are pressed for space here.

Also, "supplies" includes establishing key connections with other people in your area who can supply what you need. You just need to bring something to the table as well that they might need. A "mutual aid network" if you will. What folks used to call "community".

[Scott Pitta]

Hoarding in the name of religion is an activity I do not see in the book of Acts, nor anywhere else in the NT. Nor was it practiced by early Oneness Pentecostals in California.

Fearmonging is not a fruit of the Spirit.

[Esaias]

Hoarding in the name of religion is an activity I do not see in the book of Acts, nor anywhere else in the NT. Nor was it practiced by early Oneness Pentecostals in California.

Fearmonging is not a fruit of the Spirit.

Right, therefore you don't work, don't get paid, and don't have a refrigerator.

[Jito463]

Hoarding in the name of religion is an activity I do not see in the book of Acts, nor anywhere else in the NT.

We do see in the book of Acts, where the early church sold all they had and tried living in a communal lifestyle, even though Jesus never once commanded them to do so. Should we do the same?

Having supplies in case of emergency is not the same as "hoarding".

Fearmonging is not a fruit of the Spirit.

There's a vast difference between preparedness and fear mongering.

[Michael The Disciple]

We do see in the book of Acts, where the early church sold all they had and tried living in a communal lifestyle, even though Jesus never once commanded them to do so. Should we do the same?

And who were the LEADERS of the early Church when this having all things common episode took place?

Were THEY aware of it? Was it occuring apart from their knowledge?

[TJJJ]

In the book of Acts, we see that they sold all they had, those who lived in Jerusalem. The other parts of the known world did not do that.....

The reason that God moved on those in Jerusalem to sell all and give to a common good was that IT WAS GOING AWAY ANYWAY!!!

[Esaias]

They still had houses: Acts 5:42, Acts 8:3, possibly Acts 12:12. Further, the prophecy concerned not only the destruction of Jerusalem, but also of Judea (those in Judea were to flee), yet apparently there were Christians in Judea who owned houses. So then the selling of lands and houses is likely the selling of superfluous or investment type properties. The church in Jerusalem was not a homeless caravan.

[Esaias]

Moreover, the Law forbad the permanent sale of one's inherited land, to prevent permanent homelessness and being shiftless. Houses inside a city were generally not included in the prohibition. So nobody was becoming homeless.

[Michael The Disciple]

They still had houses: Acts 5:42, Acts 8:3, possibly Acts 12:12. Further, the prophecy concerned not only the destruction of Jerusalem, but also of Judea (those in Judea were to flee), yet apparently there were Christians in Judea who owned houses. So then the selling of lands and houses is likely the selling of superfluous or investment type properties. The church in Jerusalem was not a homeless caravan.

Agreed. My point was that the Apostles were quite aware of having all things common and were the ones directing it.

[Jito463]

The reason that God moved on those in Jerusalem to sell all and give to a common good was that IT WAS GOING AWAY ANYWAY!!!

Do you have Scripture for that? Because I've never read anywhere that God told them to do it, just that they took it upon themselves to do so. The only reason God killed Ananias and Sapphira, was because they agreed to do the same and then lied about it.

[Michael The Disciple]

Do you have Scripture for that? Because I've never read anywhere that God told them to do it, just that they took it upon themselves to do so.

So do you know they were laying the proceeds down at the APOSTLES FEET?

If that be true apparently the APOSTLES WERE DIRECTING IT.

Its true no one was forced to do it, nonetheless the apostles must have had a reason for what they were doing.

[Scott Pitta]

The activity of the believers at Jerusalem at the beginning of the church was local and temporary. No writer of NT literature encouraged it or even mentioned it.

Luke mentions it, but it ended there.

[Michael The Disciple]

The activity of the believers at Jerusalem at the beginning of the church was local and temporary. No writer of NT literature encouraged it or even mentioned it.

Luke mentions it, but it ended there.

So even tho the apostles were leading what happened at Jerusalem and the proceeds were laid at their feet you dont think they did any teaching on what they were doing?

[Jito463]

So do you know they were laying the proceeds down at the APOSTLES FEET?

If that be true apparently the APOSTLES WERE DIRECTING IT.

Its true no one was forced to do it, nonetheless the apostles must have had a reason for what they were doing.

But where is the Scriptural evidence that God told them to do it? I already know the Apostles were involved.

[Michael The Disciple]

I agree. There is no way you could ever truly be prepared, without the help of the Lord. Makes me think of Joseph, and the famine Egypt faced. Without the help of the Lord showing them how to prepare, they would have all died. But the Lord granted mercy and knowledge to them as to how to prepare.

I believe He can still do the same today.

The most serious part of preparation at least when something is GODS JUDGMENT is being perfect before God. Gods judgment on nations or localities is different to the saints than persecution.

When God is SENDING JUDGMENT we can by faith be spared IMO.

Note Ezekiel 9

1He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. 2And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.
3And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and
set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
5And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. 7And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city. 8And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?

Here God sends his angel to wreck judgment on sinners. The only ones that were SEALED FOR PROTECTION were those mourning and weeping over the sins around them.

Since the judgment started at his house he made no difference between those who went to Church and those who did not when it came to their manner of life. Going to Church which is crucial was not enough to save them from judgment.

They had to have a heart that was broken over the sins around them.

THEY and they alone were sealed or protected during the time of Gods judgment.

So we are NOT READY for the time of his judgment as long as there is sin in our lives, nor if it has not vexed our souls to see the people trample the truth under their feet.