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Hoovie
06-23-2007, 07:30 PM
I often hear people say someone is of "another faith" meaning they are a part of another Christian denomination. I have on occaision used the term myself.

Is this not in effect saying they are teaching another gospel??

Is there not just one faith??

I wonder how this term came about??

I have determined to not use the term unless I mean it.
Steve Epley
06-23-2007, 07:34 PM
I often hear people say someone is of "another faith" meaning they are a part of another Christian denomination. I have on occaision used the term myself.

Is this not in effect saying they are teaching another gospel??

Is there not just one faith??

I wonder how this term came about??

I have determined to not use the term unless I mean it.

I have a saying there is ONLY ONE faith and over 900 UNBELIEFS.
For example the Baptist unbelief, Methodist unbelief, Assembly of GodS unbelief.
Hoovie
06-23-2007, 07:35 PM
I have a saying there is ONLY ONE faith and over 900 UNBELIEFS.
For example the Baptist unbelief, Methodist unbelief, Assembly of GodS unbelief.

So you don't use the term "another faith" when making reference to other denominations?
Timmy
06-23-2007, 08:47 PM
I have a saying there is ONLY ONE faith and over 900 UNBELIEFS.
For example the Baptist unbelief, Methodist unbelief, Assembly of GodS unbelief.

Uh huh. We know, only you and those who believe exactly like you are true believers. Uh huh. Everyone who doesn't believe exactly like you do "doesn't love truth". Uh huh. Everyone who sincerely searches will be sent a Oneness Pentecostal preacher to lead them to the truth. Uh huh. We understand. And nobody can be saved except through a Oneness Pentecostal preacher, we get it. Thanks.
Hoovie
06-23-2007, 08:54 PM
SE is one voice... What do you think Timmy?
Timmy
06-23-2007, 09:05 PM
SE is one voice... What do you think Timmy?

Ooooh, some people may wish you hadn't asked! :lol

Seriously, though, I'm not sure what my faith is right now. I am working it out. Researching things, trying to learn about different beliefs, one of which being Oneness Pentecostal. (To render my opinion here on OP would be in violation of the rules! :sshhh)
Hoovie
06-23-2007, 09:10 PM
Ooooh, some people may wish you hadn't asked! :lol

Seriously, though, I'm not sure what my faith is right now. I am working it out. Researching things, trying to learn about different beliefs, one of which being Oneness Pentecostal. (To render my opinion here on OP would be in violation of the rules! :sshhh)

Actually I am asking you opinion regarding the original post... It is really not about Oneness Pentecostals in particular.
Sherri
06-23-2007, 09:17 PM
I often hear people say someone is of "another faith" meaning they are a part of another Christian denomination. I have on occaision used the term myself.

Is this not in effect saying they are teaching another gospel??

Is there not just one faith??

I wonder how this term came about??

I have determined to not use the term unless I mean it.
I would never use the term another faith unless it was about people who don't believe that Jesus is the way to salvation.
Hoovie
06-23-2007, 09:21 PM
I would never use the term another faith unless it was about people who don't believe that Jesus is the way to salvation.

Glad to hear this. You have heard it used as I described??
Sherri
06-23-2007, 09:25 PM
Glad to hear this. You have heard it used as I described??
Yes, but I've also heard Methodists using it about Baptists, etc., like it was a denomination. It's not just Pentecostals who say it, although they are mainly the ones who think everyone else is hellbound.
Hoovie
06-23-2007, 09:27 PM
Yes, but I've also heard Methodists using it about Baptists, etc., like it was a denomination. It's not just Pentecostals who say it, although they are mainly the ones who think everyone else is hellbound.

This is what I am saying. I won't comment about the last statement there are plenty of those threads.
Timmy
06-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Actually I am asking you opinion regarding the original post... It is really not about Oneness Pentecostals in particular.

:doh

I have no problem using the term "faith" to indicate someone's (anyone's) religion or spiritual beliefs, whether I agree with them or not. Standard English definition, seems to me.
Hoovie
06-23-2007, 10:10 PM
:doh

I have no problem using the term "faith" to indicate someone's (anyone's) religion or spiritual beliefs, whether I agree with them or not. Standard English definition, seems to me.

The question though is regarding the term "ANOTHER Faith".
Timmy
06-23-2007, 10:23 PM
The question though is regarding the term "ANOTHER Faith".

No problem with that, either. There are many "faiths". OP is a faith, Islam is a faith. You hold to your faith, Muslims hold to "another faith".
berkeley
06-23-2007, 10:26 PM
"one Lord, ONE FAITH, one baptism..."
Timmy
06-23-2007, 10:27 PM
No problem with that, either. There are many "faiths". OP is a faith, Islam is a faith. You hold to your faith, Muslims hold to "another faith".

Oh, and if you mean specifically calling a differnt Christian (so claimed, anyway) belief "another faith", yep. No problem with that, even. There are so many differences among Christian belief systems, it is not a stretch (IMO) to consider them different "faiths", and again, you hold to your faith, and other, non-OP Christians (self-proclaimed) hold to "another faith". No big deal, seems to me.
Timmy
06-23-2007, 10:28 PM
"one Lord, ONE FAITH, one baptism..."

I think it's implied that that means one true faith. Other "faiths" (whether you like the term or not) may be as wrong as wrong can be, but they are still faiths. Again, it's a normal English word with a common definition.
berkeley
06-23-2007, 10:29 PM
I think it's implied that that means one true faith. Other "faiths" (whether you like the term or not) may be as wrong as wrong can be, but they are still faiths. Again, it's a normal English word with a common definition.

Right. I threw that in there to see if an UC will come in and cheer.
Ronzo
06-23-2007, 10:41 PM
Timmay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Timmy
06-24-2007, 08:02 AM
Right. I threw that in there to see if an UC will come in and cheer.

:killinme
Steve Epley
06-24-2007, 11:49 AM
What to call any church that is NOT Apostolic????????????? A false church.

I had a person ask me once "If you was not Apostolic what would you be?"

I said "Nothing like everyone else."
TalkLady
06-24-2007, 11:51 AM
What to call any church that is NOT Apostolic????????????? A false church.

I had a person ask me once "If you was not Apostolic what would you be?"

I said "Nothing like everyone else."

What's wrong with a person saying that he or she is a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ - Oneness" ..........There are Lutherans and Catholics who equate Apostolic with a Catholic organization. I know that sounds weird to us, but there are some out there who do. I'm not saying don't call yourself Apostolic, but I can't see that it is wrong to say Church Of Jesus Christ - Oneness.
Steve Epley
06-24-2007, 11:53 AM
What's wrong with a person saying that he or she is a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ - Oneness" ..........There are Lutherans and Catholics who equate Apostolic with a Catholic organization. I know that sounds weird to us, but there are some out there who do. I'm not saying don't call yourself Apostolic, but I can't see that it is wrong to say Church Of Jesus Christ - Oneness.

Not a thing wrong with that.

It is NOT the Name over the door but the message preached in the pulpit-the experience recieved by the members and the lifestyle they live that determines the True Faith.
TalkLady
06-24-2007, 12:02 PM
Not a thing wrong with that.

It is NOT the Name over the door but the message preached in the pulpit-the experience recieved by the members and the lifestyle they live that determines the True Faith.

I don't think that having the name over the door is essential (as some do) but I think it's the best name to have associated with the church. Also, I agree - the people living for God make "The Church" - not a sign.
Steve Epley
06-24-2007, 12:14 PM
I don't think that having the name over the door is essential (as some do) but I think it's the best name to have associated with the church. Also, I agree - the people living for God make "The Church" - not a sign.

By the way the name of the church I pastor is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Mitchell." The name over the door is "The Church of Jesus Christ." But I do not think the scriptures give us a name to place over the door nor an exact designated name of the church.
stmatthew
06-24-2007, 02:11 PM
I have no problem with using the term "of another faith". I think in this context normally the word "faith" can be interchanged with the word "doctrine". It signifies a belief system rather than just a belief in Jesus.
Hoovie
06-28-2007, 10:16 PM
I have a saying there is ONLY ONE faith and over 900 UNBELIEFS.
For example the Baptist unbelief, Methodist unbelief, Assembly of GodS unbelief.

I have no problem with using the term "of another faith". I think in this context normally the word "faith" can be interchanged with the word "doctrine". It signifies a belief system rather than just a belief in Jesus.

Here are two different views of it.


I guess my own view is almost a third view - that the various denominations are a part of the One Faith [that of Christ Jesus] not so much because they all agree but in spite of the differences.

It is the faith and belief that Jesus Christ is the only true Son of God, who came to suffer and die on a cross for the sin of mankind.
OP_Carl
06-29-2007, 07:09 AM
By the way the name of the church I pastor is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Mitchell." The name over the door is "The Church of Jesus Christ." But I do not think the scriptures give us a name to place over the door nor an exact designated name of the church.

And it's not too awful far of a drive from "The Church of Jesus Christ with Signs Following and Snakes Slithering." ;)
MrsMcD
06-29-2007, 07:29 AM
I have never heard the term "another faith." What does it mean?
Hoovie
06-29-2007, 07:34 AM
I have never heard the term "another faith." What does it mean?

The definition is what this thread is about. It is apparant it means different things to different people.

The way I have often heard it used is like this... "Our nieghbors were very nice people but of a different faith than us" (meaning a different Christian denomination)

I think it is only used correctly when the faith in reference is one that does not believe in Jesus.
MrsMcD
06-29-2007, 07:38 AM
The definition is what this thread is about. It is apparent it means different things to different people.

The way I have often heard it used is like this... "Our neighbors were very nice people but of a different faith than us" (meaning a different Christian denomination)

I think it is only used correctly when the faith in reference is one that does not believe in Jesus.

I see. I was thinking people could mean denomination or doctrine.
Hoovie
06-29-2007, 07:46 AM
I see. I was thinking people could mean denomination or doctrine.

Right it apparantly is used that way by many. I am thinking this type of language is an unnecessary barrier between Christians.

Used in that context it could be said many I go to church with even some ministers, are of a different faith.
Steve Epley
07-01-2007, 04:09 PM
ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism. Eph 4:5
Hoovie
07-01-2007, 04:57 PM
ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism. Eph 4:5

SE, guess we sort of agree on the one faith part when it comes to defining Christians.

I think it's apparant my definition of "the faith" is broader and more inclusive.
tv1a
07-01-2007, 05:11 PM
Another faith is way of saying they ain't one of us, but they ain't charismatic.
Hoovie
07-02-2007, 04:11 PM
Another faith is way of saying they ain't one of us, but they ain't charismatic.

LOL!
CupCake
07-02-2007, 06:54 PM
Uh huh. We know, only you and those who believe exactly like you are true believers. Uh huh. Everyone who doesn't believe exactly like you do "doesn't love truth". Uh huh. Everyone who sincerely searches will be sent a Oneness Pentecostal preacher to lead them to the truth. Uh huh. We understand. And nobody can be saved except through a Oneness Pentecostal preacher, we get it. Thanks.

Timmy~ There are some on here who preach another way unto Christ, thought man made dress coeds of standards and traditions, other then by Gods perfect Agape and Grace (Jesus)! I believe they are dammed due to adding and taken from Gods true message of (Jesus) ~

For me it comes down to preaching another Gospel, as well as another faith, one of man~
Timmy
07-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Timmy~ There are some on here who preach another way unto Christ, thought man made dress coeds of standards and traditions, other then by Gods perfect Agape and Grace (Jesus)! I believe they are dammed due to adding and taken from Gods true message of (Jesus) ~

For me it comes down to preaching another Gospel, as well as another faith, one of man~

Oh, I don't know, maybe God's grace extends even to the exclusivists! :winkgrin
CupCake
07-03-2007, 10:59 PM
Oh, I don't know, maybe God's grace extends even to the exclusivists! :winkgrin

Now Timmy~:killinme:winkgrin
CC1
07-04-2007, 08:35 AM
Mr. Hoover Vacuum,

I can see Oneness Pentecostals from the PAJC perspective viewing other Christians as having "another faith" since they are not fulfilling their basic 3 step requriements for salvation. Most Christians "faith" is in Christ and his work at Calvary where most OP's "faith" is centered on Acts 2:38 and standards. For them anyone not obeying Acts 2:38 as they see it or adhering to their application of scriptures regarding dress code are then "of another faith".

What I don't see is this lunacy of some saying that Chrisitans who are not Oneness Pentecostals worship "another God".
philjones
07-04-2007, 11:17 AM
Here are two different views of it.


I guess my own view is almost a third view - that the various denominations are a part of the One Faith [that of Christ Jesus] not so much because they all agree but in spite of the differences.

It is the faith and belief that Jesus Christ is the only true Son of God, who came to suffer and die on a cross for the sin of mankind.

Do you have a problem including LDS in that statement? They believe what you said but the majority of mainstream Christians consider Mormonism to be "another faith".

Also, Bro. Stephen, do you have a problem with use of the term "another belief" as opposed to "another faith"?

Also also, the use of the scripture "one Lord, one Faith...." is not applicable. The same Bible that says this also says there are lords many and gods many. I submit that there are also faiths many and I have no problem using the term!
Hoovie
07-04-2007, 11:58 AM
Do you have a problem including LDS in that statement? They believe what you said but the majority of mainstream Christians consider Mormonism to be "another faith".

Also, Bro. Stephen, do you have a problem with use of the term "another belief" as opposed to "another faith"?

Also also, the use of the scripture "one Lord, one Faith...." is not applicable. The same Bible that says this also says there are lords many and gods many. I submit that there are also faiths many and I have no problem using the term!


I could not include LDS.

"Belief" works better because it implies a belief about anything... I still would not use it in this context.

Right, there has to be some definitions somewhere...

Let me just say I am not comfortable in using terms like "They are of another Faith" when refering to Steve Epley, CC1, AOG, Baptists, and most others who confess that Jesus was/is God come in flesh and trust in His blood for salvation, in spite of the fact most of them do not agree with my interpretation of the New Testament.
ILG
07-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Let me just say I am not comfortable in using terms like "They are of another Faith" when refering to Steve Epley, CC1, AOG, Baptists, and most others who confess that Jesus was/is God come in flesh and trust in His blood for salvation, in spite of the fact most of them do not agree with my interpretation of the New Testament.

I agree.