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Esaias
02-18-2019, 01:48 AM
...for the place you stand is holy ground.

Some Pentecostals and apostolics remove their shoes for church, or if approaching the altar area, pulpit, etc.

Anyone familiar with this?

shag
02-18-2019, 05:49 AM
Nope.

Although my son stationed in Japan is required to take his shoes off before entering his rental house he lives in...does that count? :D

Evang.Benincasa
02-18-2019, 06:29 AM
...for the place you stand is holy ground.

Some Pentecostals and apostolics remove their shoes for church, or if approaching the altar area, pulpit, etc.

Anyone familiar with this?

Yes, I came up in barefoot Apostolic churches.

bare feet and socks.

Not me though, I always kept my boots on. :D

diakonos
02-18-2019, 07:13 AM
I’ve only ever seen women do it. I thought it was because their shoes were uncomfortable.

Evang.Benincasa
02-18-2019, 10:25 AM
I’ve only ever seen women do it. I thought it was because their shoes were uncomfortable.


I’ve seen men and women do it. Never on the platform. I’ve seen preachers take off their suit jackets, take off neck ties, and unbutton their collar.

FlamingZword
02-18-2019, 11:24 AM
...for the place you stand is holy ground.

Some Pentecostals and apostolics remove their shoes for church, or if approaching the altar area, pulpit, etc.

Anyone familiar with this?

come on Esaias, I take my shoes off when I am at home.
the church is their home, so they just simply want to be comfortable. :)

votivesoul
02-19-2019, 12:26 AM
I have seen a few men do this, but never religiously. I've done it here and there, too.

I know a brother in the Lord, that years ago, always took his shoes off and prayed on a rug only, because he wanted a dedicated spot for prayer that was exclusively given over to God.

jediwill83
02-19-2019, 06:40 AM
I have seen a few men do this, but never religiously. I've done it here and there, too.

I know a brother in the Lord, that years ago, always took his shoes off and prayed on a rug only, because he wanted a dedicated spot for prayer that was exclusively given over to God.


◄ 1 Timothy 2:8 ►


I will therefore that men pray EVERYWHERE, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.


Im noticing a disturbing trend of fetishizing OT happenings and using it as a guidebook for NT saints.


When I read this, this is the scripture that came to mind but in answer to the original post...isnt that kind of behavior the same as worshipping something that God used one time only.?..I mean I dont ever see it on scripture other than the original account with Moses and the burning bush


Wouldnt this be a bit like taken the brazen serpents and making them into idols something that God legitimately used?


Heres my main question.


Do we have the authority to take something God used as a one time occurence and make a tradition or practice of it?


So Moses who did NOT have the Spirit of God was told to do a certain thing.


He was told to take off his shoes because he was standing on holy ground.


What made the ground holy?


It was the literal manifestation of an invisible God who was yet to enter into man for communion.


It seems as of God was wanting to break down anything that would separate Him from Moses.


Moses could not have touched the burning bush without being consumed but I beleive that God let him get as close as he could without actual contact....and that was just Moses standing barefoot...


What does that mean for a Spirit filled Christian?


For a Spirit filled Christian, shoes do not separate us from God...but sin does.


With Moses...removing his shoes could be seen as a type of removal of a barrier...such as the Temple veil...God was saying, "Anything that separates you from contact with me I want it out of the way."


So now we are Spirit filled and in our quest to be whispy and "spiritual" we get up and act out a high point from someones sermon


Why?


Is it spiritual virtue signalling or is it a pervasive ignorance about what exactly and WHO exactly we possess?

Esaias
02-19-2019, 12:02 PM
◄ 1 Timothy 2:8 ►


I will therefore that men pray EVERYWHERE, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.


Im noticing a disturbing trend of fetishizing OT happenings and using it as a guidebook for NT saints.


When I read this, this is the scripture that came to mind but in answer to the original post...isnt that kind of behavior the same as worshipping something that God used one time only.?..I mean I dont ever see it on scripture other than the original account with Moses and the burning bush


Wouldnt this be a bit like taken the brazen serpents and making them into idols something that God legitimately used?


Heres my main question.


Do we have the authority to take something God used as a one time occurence and make a tradition or practice of it?


So Moses who did NOT have the Spirit of God was told to do a certain thing.


He was told to take off his shoes because he was standing on holy ground.


What made the ground holy?


It was the literal manifestation of an invisible God who was yet to enter into man for communion.


It seems as of God was wanting to break down anything that would separate Him from Moses.


Moses could not have touched the burning bush without being consumed but I beleive that God let him get as close as he could without actual contact....and that was just Moses standing barefoot...


What does that mean for a Spirit filled Christian?


For a Spirit filled Christian, shoes do not separate us from God...but sin does.


With Moses...removing his shoes could be seen as a type of removal of a barrier...such as the Temple veil...God was saying, "Anything that separates you from contact with me I want it out of the way."


So now we are Spirit filled and in our quest to be whispy and "spiritual" we get up and act out a high point from someones sermon


Why?


Is it spiritual virtue signalling or is it a pervasive ignorance about what exactly and WHO exactly we possess?

I was just wondering how common the practice was. Apparently catholics and orthodox also do this to a limited degree.

BTW, Joshua 5:15 has Joshua being told to do the same thing.

Tithesmeister
02-19-2019, 12:22 PM
I was just wondering how common the practice was. Apparently catholics and orthodox also do this to a limited degree.

BTW, Joshua 5:15 has Joshua being told to do the same thing.

I don't know how common it is. I've seen women do so but I believe they were just getting comfortable.

However, if God told me in an audible voice to take off my shoes because I am on holy ground, guess what I'm going to do.

Yep.

Socks too.




So far He has never done that.

diakonos
02-19-2019, 12:31 PM
I take my shoes off at cell group because my feet feel like they are going to explode.

Evang.Benincasa
02-19-2019, 03:52 PM
I’ve been working in the Everglades. I’m cutting trees felling them in a river. Then I walk in cut’em up, haul’em out. Well, just the other day I got swamp water in my boot. I got to the river bank and dumped out the water. At the end of the day I took my boots off and walked inside. Everyone immediately walked outside.

jediwill83
02-19-2019, 04:10 PM
I was just wondering how common the practice was. Apparently catholics and orthodox also do this to a limited degree.

BTW, Joshua 5:15 has Joshua being told to do the same thing.




Did not know that. Thank you sir for the info!

jediwill83
02-19-2019, 04:12 PM
I don't know how common it is. I've seen women do so but I believe they were just getting comfortable.

However, if God told me in an audible voice to take off my shoes because I am on holy ground, guess what I'm going to do.

Yep.

Socks too.




So far He has never done that.


Oh heck yeah...me as well...Id be like,"For how long Lord?" Lol

jediwill83
02-19-2019, 04:14 PM
I’ve been working in the Everglades. I’m cutting trees felling them in a river. Then I walk in cut’em up, haul’em out. Well, just the other day I got swamp water in my boot. I got to the river bank and dumped out the water. At the end of the day I took my boots off and walked inside. Everyone immediately walked outside.


Keep them feet dry soldier...good way to get a bad case of foot rot and its gonna be difficult to slog through mud on peg legs...guess you could get some mini pontoon attatchments...lol

shag
02-19-2019, 04:17 PM
Oh heck yeah...me as well...Id be like,"For how long Lord?" Lol


Already thinking about putting them back on...you done failed the test :heeheehee

brostewart
02-19-2019, 05:57 PM
◄ 1 Timothy 2:8 ►


I will therefore that men pray EVERYWHERE, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.


Im noticing a disturbing trend of fetishizing OT happenings and using it as a guidebook for NT saints.


When I read this, this is the scripture that came to mind but in answer to the original post...isnt that kind of behavior the same as worshipping something that God used one time only.?..I mean I dont ever see it on scripture other than the original account with Moses and the burning bush


Wouldnt this be a bit like taken the brazen serpents and making them into idols something that God legitimately used?


Heres my main question.


Do we have the authority to take something God used as a one time occurence and make a tradition or practice of it?


So Moses who did NOT have the Spirit of God was told to do a certain thing.


He was told to take off his shoes because he was standing on holy ground.


What made the ground holy?


It was the literal manifestation of an invisible God who was yet to enter into man for communion.


It seems as of God was wanting to break down anything that would separate Him from Moses.


Moses could not have touched the burning bush without being consumed but I beleive that God let him get as close as he could without actual contact....and that was just Moses standing barefoot...


What does that mean for a Spirit filled Christian?


For a Spirit filled Christian, shoes do not separate us from God...but sin does.


With Moses...removing his shoes could be seen as a type of removal of a barrier...such as the Temple veil...God was saying, "Anything that separates you from contact with me I want it out of the way."


So now we are Spirit filled and in our quest to be whispy and "spiritual" we get up and act out a high point from someones sermon


Why?


Is it spiritual virtue signalling or is it a pervasive ignorance about what exactly and WHO exactly we possess?

I think whatever we do if it's as unto the Lord to honor Him and someone else in the Word did it why not? It's easy to be a pharisee, but who among you has no sin? Go ahead and pick up a rock and sling it at me, I hope the Lord will forgive you for you know not whatever you're of. By the way I don't take off my shoes, but I would when the shekinah puts the house on our faces where Jesus fixes us. Shalom.

diakonos
02-19-2019, 08:17 PM
I think whatever we do if it's as unto the Lord to honor Him and someone else in the Word did it why not? It's easy to be a pharisee, but who among you has no sin? Go ahead and pick up a rock and sling it at me, I hope the Lord will forgive you for you know not whatever you're of. By the way I don't take off my shoes, but I would when the shekinah puts the house on our faces where Jesus fixes us. Shalom.


Shekinah? Shekhinah? A feminine talmudic word. :nah

jediwill83
02-22-2019, 11:17 AM
I think whatever we do if it's as unto the Lord to honor Him and someone else in the Word did it why not? It's easy to be a pharisee, but who among you has no sin? Go ahead and pick up a rock and sling it at me, I hope the Lord will forgive you for you know not whatever you're of. By the way I don't take off my shoes, but I would when the shekinah puts the house on our faces where Jesus fixes us. Shalom.


Theres alot of "I think" going on where there should be scripture examined in context.


Lotta "I think" got a lot of people into some mess.


Remember that guy that promised God that if God gave him victory he'd sacrifice the first thing that came out to meet him?


Yeah...his daughter.


That was "Unto the Lord" in his mind as well...


We dont get to do whatever we want to "unto the Lord" just because someone else did it.


In doing such you act amiss not knowing what you do or why and in doing so can be led into idolotry and witchcraft.



We are commanded not to worship God as other religions worship their gods so you can be real sure Im gonna test every spirit to see whether it be of God.


You speak to me as though I am an enemy but you would do well not to heed the spirit of confusion that would turn you against those that wish no harm upon you and that are not serving evil.


Context is important my friend.


We must not just imitate what has happened but we must examine why.


Btw....that wasnt a rock...that was some truth. Just because words hurt doesnt mean that they are meant for your destruction.


Pharisee?


Really?


You wanna know my sins Ive been forgiven of and what God has set me free from?


How dare you blindly accuse someone of sin and evil sight unseen because you get some pushback and get your feelings hurt.


The Lord open your eyes truth and unstop your ears of ignorance and stop your lying tongue in Jesus name because you speak as an accuser of the brethren.

diakonos
02-22-2019, 01:04 PM
Shekinah? Shekhinah? A feminine talmudic word. :nah


Stewart?

jediwill83
02-22-2019, 08:00 PM
Stewart?
.

good samaritan
02-24-2019, 04:21 AM
We must take off some things if we are going to dwell in the presence of God. People too often want to come to God on there terms and when they get ready. You can only come to God when He calls, and it is on His terms. When the rich young ruler was asked to sell his possessions to give to the poor, he went away sorrowful. People don't want to take any thing off and reveal that stinky swamp water sin.

Evang.Benincasa
02-24-2019, 05:32 AM
We must take off some things if we are going to dwell in the presence of God. People too often want to come to God on there terms and when they get ready. You can only come to God when He calls, and it is on His terms. When the rich young ruler was asked to sell his possessions to give to the poor, he went away sorrowful. People don't want to take any thing off and reveal that stinky swamp water sin.

Drain the Swamp!