Statements Apostolics do not Say

[jfrog]

Romans 1:8
First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all...

1 Corinthians 1:4
I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

2 Corinthians 1:3
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

Galatians 1:1
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Philippians 1:2
Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:3
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

1 Thessalonians 1:1
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 1:2
Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 1:2
Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

2 Timothy 1:2
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.

Titus 1:4
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Philemon 1:3
Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 1:1-2
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

James 1:1
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

2 Peter 1:2
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

1 John 1:3
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

2 John 1:3
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

Jude 1:1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

[Sister Alvear]

why would we not say these things?

[diakonos]

why would we not say these things?

I noticed that when some do, they go into an explanation of how the Son is really the Father. Anything to avoid sounding like a trinitarian.

[Nicodemus1968]

I noticed that when some do, they go into an explanation of how the Son is really the Father. Anything to avoid sounding like a trinitarian.

It’s True

[Michael The Disciple]

I noticed that when some do, they go into an explanation of how the Son is really the Father. Anything to avoid sounding like a trinitarian.

True

[jfrog]

why would we not say these things?

They all sound too trinitarian.

I've never heard a oneness apostolic speak of God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. Now I'm sure if challenged a oneness apostolic would do so to prove they aren't being unscriptural - but that doesn't change that they wouldn't naturally speak that way of their own free will absent such a challenge.

[Sister Alvear]

Most if I remember right use the Greek word KAi?

[Esaias]

Romans 1:8
First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all...

1 Corinthians 1:4
I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

2 Corinthians 1:3
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

Galatians 1:1
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Philippians 1:2
Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:3
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

1 Thessalonians 1:1
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 1:2
Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 1:2
Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

2 Timothy 1:2
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.

Titus 1:4
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Philemon 1:3
Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 1:1-2
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

James 1:1
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

2 Peter 1:2
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

1 John 1:3
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

2 John 1:3
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

Jude 1:1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

Get over yourself. I'm apostolic and never had a pronlem with any such Biblical terminology.

[jfrog]

Get over yourself. I'm apostolic and never had a pronlem with any such Biblical terminology.

Then why don't you naturally use it?

[Nicodemus1968]

I know of some that will not say Holy Spirit because it sounds charismatic.

[jfrog]

I know of some that will not say Holy Spirit because it sounds charismatic.

I recall that being a prevalent sentiment as well.

[coksiw]

It wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t for so many trinis out there, causing so many one true God apostolic pentecostal Christians fo get so defensive.

[Michael The Disciple]

Most if I remember right use the Greek word KAi?

Yes but "kai" doesnt ALWAYS work in the context.

[Esaias]

Then why don't you naturally use it?

I do..

[jfrog]

I do..

Then surely you realize you are a rare exception.

[jfrog]

It wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t for so many trinis out there, causing so many one true God apostolic pentecostal Christians fo get so defensive.

Hmmmm, are they defensive thinking the trins will mistake them for one of their own - or are they defensive thinking their oneness peers will mistake them for a trinitarian?

[Tithesmeister]

Hmmmm, are they defensive thinking the trins will mistake them for one of their own - or are they defensive thinking their oneness peers will mistake them for a trinitarian?

Yes

[Evang.Benincasa]

Yes but "kai" doesnt ALWAYS work in the context.

How long have you studied Greek?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Hmmmm, are they defensive thinking the trins will mistake them for one of their own - or are they defensive thinking their oneness peers will mistake them for a trinitarian?

I guess you people live in the Spider-Verse, because I have never ran into these issues. I guess it's the haters who experiences these things? :heeheehee

[Evang.Benincasa]

Then surely you realize you are a rare exception.


I guess not :laffatu

[diakonos]

I guess you people live in the Spider-Verse, because I have never ran into these issues. I guess it's the haters who experiences these things? :heeheehee

I’m a hater?

[Evang.Benincasa]

I’m a hater?

I'm usually more clearer when I section a person out to call them a hater?

is [you] a hater?

[consapente89]

I know of some that will not say Holy Spirit because it sounds charismatic.

Holy Ghost .

[Nicodemus1968]

I'm usually more clearer when I section a person out to call them a hater?

is [you] a hater?

I try to be a lover.

[Nicodemus1968]

Holy Ghost .

:heeheehee

[diakonos]

:heeheehee

I was a teen... was told that Holy “Ghost” sounds powerful... :lol

[Evang.Benincasa]

I try to be a lover.


Nostradamus1968 still isn't catching the "you" feature of the forum. :laffatu

[Evang.Benincasa]

I was a teen... was told that Holy “Ghost” sounds powerful... :lol

Spanish speakers don't have the hang up.

[diakonos]

Spanish speakers don't have the hang up.

Yes, I know

[Michael The Disciple]

Romans 1:8
First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all...

1 Corinthians 1:4
I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

2 Corinthians 1:3
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

Galatians 1:1
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Philippians 1:2
Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:3
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

1 Thessalonians 1:1
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 1:2
Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 1:2
Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

2 Timothy 1:2
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.

Titus 1:4
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Philemon 1:3
Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 1:1-2
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

James 1:1
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

2 Peter 1:2
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

1 John 1:3
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

2 John 1:3
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

Jude 1:1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

So is there any place in todays Apostolic Churches for "God and Jesus Christ"?

[Evang.Benincasa]

So is there any place in todays Apostolic Churches for "God and Jesus Christ"?

You mean God and His space suit called logos?
The logos who didn’t make everything which was made. Because he didn’t make himself?

[Nicodemus1968]

So is there any place in todays Apostolic Churches for "God and Jesus Christ"?

Yes sir.

[Michael The Disciple]

Yes sir.

So in light of post number 1 of the thread what is the place of God and Jesus Christ?

[Nicodemus1968]

So in light of post number 1 of the thread what is the place of God and Jesus Christ?

I’m not understanding the question, sorry?

[diakonos]

Yes sir.

What?

[consapente89]

Some things Apostolics don’t say:

Holy Spirit

[Michael The Disciple]

I’m not understanding the question, sorry?

Read the first post of the thread then tell the place God and Jesus Christ has in the Apostolic Churches. Are we to see any distinction between God and Jesus in the verses.

[Nicodemus1968]

Read the first post of the thread then tell the place God and Jesus Christ has in the Apostolic Churches. Are we to see any distinction between God and Jesus in the verses.

I noticed that several verses there keep saying, “God the Father”.
Shouldn’t it be Holy Ghost Father?

Matthew 1:18,20
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. [20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

[coksiw]

Some things Apostolics don’t say:

Holy Spirit

What do you mean? Pray to Him?

[consapente89]

What do you mean? Pray to Him?

Holy Ghost.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I noticed that several verses there keep saying, “God the Father”.
Shouldn’t it be Holy Ghost Father?

Matthew 1:18,20
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. [20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.



Doesn’t Mike remind you of Joseph Smith in the sacred grove?

[Nicodemus1968]

Doesn’t Mike remind you of Joseph Smith in the sacred grove?

Lol.