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Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:23 AM
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.
But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)
Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).
I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:27 AM
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.
But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)
Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).
I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
And yes, I hope I'm wrong. Though, I hope that if I am wrong, the reality isn't even worse.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:29 AM
And by the way, yes I have taken into account all the people diagnosed with the Chinese Flu and who have passed because of it. I'm not saying nobody's getting sick or something stupid like that. This isn't Sandy Hook.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:32 AM
There are other scenarios I think are plausible and possible. But I am leaning toward this one being the most likely. Time will tell.
Amanah
03-21-2020, 06:18 AM
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.
But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)
Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).
I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
I'm concerned that health care will be overwhelmed and we will have an economic collapse, we are so close to accepting communism that it is scary.
And yes I'm scared, I'm clenching my teeth so hard in my sleep that I'm having to wear a bite guard to keep from breaking my teeth.
Freeindeed
03-21-2020, 06:56 AM
There are other scenarios I think are plausible and possible. But I am leaning toward this one being the most likely. Time will tell.
I know that you catch a lot of flak here on AFF, but I really appreciate your posts. Please keep sharing with us your findings and analysis.
jediwill83
03-21-2020, 07:41 AM
Ok just saw a clip on Twitter with Trump saying that they had to break the system they inherited...no idea on the context but Ill keep an eye out.
Amanah
03-21-2020, 07:49 AM
Ok just saw a clip on Twitter with Trump saying that they had to break the system they inherited...no idea on the context but Ill keep an eye out.
Outdated health care system
KeptByTheWord
03-21-2020, 08:09 AM
Bro. E. THANK YOU. I appreciate your insight. I really do!
None of us really knows. But we can all see signs that are pointing to something. It is very interesting to see that both Iran and China have the worst outbreak, and Italy next. Could there have been some sort of conspiracy? It's very possible. All cards are on the table.
I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
Amen!
Nicodemus1968
03-21-2020, 08:18 AM
And by the way, yes I have taken into account all the people diagnosed with the Chinese Flu and who have passed because of it. I'm not saying nobody's getting sick or something stupid like that. This isn't Sandy Hook.
Chinese Flu:
Racist to use that word...
Sandy Hook:
What’s that???
:heeheehee
james34
03-21-2020, 09:37 AM
:thumbsupChinese Flu:
Racist to use that word...
Sandy Hook:
What’s that???
:heeheehee
Google sandy hook/alex jones
diakonos
03-21-2020, 10:56 AM
Uhh... the “false flag” Sandy Hook school shooting.
Pressing-On
03-21-2020, 11:02 AM
There are other scenarios I think are plausible and possible. But I am leaning toward this one being the most likely. Time will tell.
I lean toward Italy and Iran having tremendous financial trouble (Italy has had 3 recessions in a 10 year span and we know Iran’s state of affairs - China has been selling them weapons and nuclear materials) and China standing to benefit. China is trying and has been working with Italy on a railroad which would expand their footprint into Europe.
I also believe China wanted America to panic and were looking more to us overreacting, which would hurt our business interests more than people being harmed. So, they got that. Payback for tariffs.
TGBTG
03-21-2020, 11:14 AM
I lean toward Italy and Iran having tremendous financial trouble (Italy has had 3 recessions in a 10 year span and we know Iran’s state of affairs - China has been selling them weapons and nuclear materials) and China standing to benefit. China is trying and has been working with Italy on a railroad which would expand their footprint into Europe.
I also believe China wanted America to panic and were looking more to us overreacting, which would hurt our business interests more than people being harmed. So, they got that. Payback for tariffs.
Trying to understand your line of reasoning - Why would the break out begin in china if china was targeting us with a bio weapon?
wouldn't it be more plausible that we targeted them first with a bio weapon?
Pressing-On
03-21-2020, 11:27 AM
Trying to understand your line of reasoning - Why would the break out begin in china if china was targeting us with a bio weapon?
wouldn't it be more plausible that we targeted them first with a bio weapon?
Did you think they cared about their own people after they pushed the one child agenda? I think Senator Tom Cotton agrees that we shouldn’t use a conspiracy theory, but also be aware this is a place where their bio testing takes place.
No, it doesn’t make sense we would hit them first. Several virus’ have originated from China.
Armapeet.Singh
03-21-2020, 11:32 AM
So where I am, they have shut down most of the branches of the credit union I belong to, all county buildings are by appointment only, no congregating over 10 people, use of cash is discouraged because Coronavirus might be on the paper money...
We see that travel out of the country is now prohibited.....
There is a message that is being implied that WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU....
KeptByTheWord
03-21-2020, 11:36 AM
If it is some kind of bioweapon warfare why weren't North Korea and Russia also targeted?
Pressing-On
03-21-2020, 11:38 AM
This article covers the superstitious practices that cause many virus’ that come out of this country. I am with others, we need to quarantine China.
Why Did the Coronavirus Start In China?https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-china-cause.html
Pressing-On
03-21-2020, 11:42 AM
If it is some kind of bioweapon warfare why weren't North Korea and Russia also targeted?
We know that North Korea went on lockdown immediately when they heard about it. The US saw that and emulated their actions. We also don’t know if Russia is keeping things quiet. I did read today they were expelling any Chinese who weren’t complying with quarantines.
I think the natural viruses from their superstitious practices could be used in that way. The Chinese know this is happening. They aren’t stupid. They must allow it to keep their population down. They run everyone’s lives, they know everything everyone is doing. So, you’d have to say they don’t care, and therefore why care if other countries populations die as well?
Nicodemus1968
03-21-2020, 12:29 PM
So where I am, they have shut down most of the branches of the credit union I belong to, all county buildings are by appointment only, no congregating over 10 people, use of cash is discouraged because Coronavirus might be on the paper money...
We see that travel out of the country is now prohibited.....
There is a message that is being implied that WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU....
Sir, please tell us when Jesus is coming to set up his Earthly Kingdom to rid us from this Satan led nation!
Sir, please tell us when Jesus is coming to set up his Earthly Kingdom to rid us from this Satan led nation!
Well, in 1 Zedekiah 3:1 , we see this prophecied.
Michael The Disciple
03-21-2020, 12:48 PM
Forced vaccines? Heard someone saying the vaccine contains aborted babies tissues and when taken makes you one with the internet. Borg anyone?
TGBTG
03-21-2020, 01:25 PM
Forced vaccines? Heard someone saying the vaccine contains aborted babies tissues and when taken makes you one with the internet. Borg anyone?
:spit
Nicodemus1968
03-21-2020, 03:07 PM
Well, in 1 Zedekiah 3:1 , we see this prophecied.
I just read that and received the revelation!
consapente89
03-21-2020, 03:34 PM
I'm concerned that health care will be overwhelmed and we will have an economic collapse, we are so close to accepting communism that it is scary.
And yes I'm scared, I'm clenching my teeth so hard in my sleep that I'm having to wear a bite guard to keep from breaking my teeth.
True.
Birddog
03-21-2020, 04:32 PM
Do you believe that God knows what is going on?
Of course we do.
Is He going to take care of those who have faith in Him?
Of course He is!!!
Esaias
03-21-2020, 04:45 PM
John Bolton declares China 'responsible' for coronavirus outbreak, says world must hold them 'accountable'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/john-bolton-declares-china-responsible-for-coronavirus-outbreak-the-world-must-act-to-hold-them-accountable
Esaias
03-21-2020, 04:48 PM
I'm concerned that health care will be overwhelmed and we will have an economic collapse, we are so close to accepting communism that it is scary.
And yes I'm scared, I'm clenching my teeth so hard in my sleep that I'm having to wear a bite guard to keep from breaking my teeth.
Psalm 34:1-10 KJV
I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth. [2] My soul shall make her boast in the Lord : the humble shall hear thereof , and be glad. [3] O magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt his name together. [4] I sought the Lord , and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. [5] They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed. [6] This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him , and saved him out of all his troubles. [7] The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. [8] O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. [9] O fear the Lord , ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him. [10] The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing .
Esaias
03-21-2020, 04:51 PM
I know that you catch a lot of flak here on AFF, but I really appreciate your posts. Please keep sharing with us your findings and analysis.
:thumbsup
Ever since I came to the conclusion a couple days ago I've run across a couple others who share the same thoughts. I am not making predictions but things do look like they are gelling towards a certain direction.
james34
03-21-2020, 04:55 PM
Would this newest strategy not manipulate the statistics to the point where it looks like a higher death rate?
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-21-20-intl-hnk/h_78c431662464112a27434663a0860cdc
I'm already suspect(media and politicians don't have the best record when it comes to honesty or love for anything having to do with God)) then I read this next article and the reporter seems to really be pushing a public panic narrative , ........https://fxn.ws/399a8y2......
(Early Saturday, New York had more than 8,400 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 50 deaths, while the entire U.S. had more than 19,600 confirmed cases and about 250 deaths.
“No, this is not life as usual,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as the death toll in the U.S. topped 200, with at least 35 in his state. “Accept it and realize it and deal with it.”)
Amanah
03-21-2020, 05:05 PM
:thumbsup
Ever since I came to the conclusion a couple days ago I've run across a couple others who share the same thoughts. I am not making predictions but things do look like they are gelling towards a certain direction.
can you give us a thesis statement, asking nicely.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:21 PM
https://www..youtube.com/watch?v=wJlWrJ5JQNE
Nicodemus1968
03-21-2020, 05:36 PM
John Bolton declares China 'responsible' for coronavirus outbreak, says world must hold them 'accountable'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/john-bolton-declares-china-responsible-for-coronavirus-outbreak-the-world-must-act-to-hold-them-accountable
Bolton is a warmonger like Bush & Chaney.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:36 PM
can you give us a thesis statement, asking nicely.
Basically that the "global coronavirus pandemic" is a cover story being used to provide cover for a shift in the economy, social activities, and redeployment of critical industries in preparation for a large "east vs west" style war. Via selective reporting, various medical "news stories" are being created whereby people are convinced a pandemic is underway. Blame is beginning to take place, we are blaming China, they are blaming us, to convince people that the other side did something so terrible we will need to go to war over it.
The pandemic provides perfect cover for the controlled crash of the current economic system and replacing it with a wartime economy. People are being conditioned to accept rationing and shortages and control measures. The hoarding panic provided for "emergency stockpiling" of various resources by the population in a short time frame.
Medical cases of pneumonia, tuberculosis, and influenza are selectively being identified as Covid19/coronavirus in order to provide authenticity. Just like what happened with HIV/AIDS.
Again, this is just what I currently see as the likely scenario. There are some alternatives, like the pandemic is being used to provide an excuse and a means to transition the global economy to digital biometrics based and global artificial scarcity and control ("the world must come together and make radical changes to save humanity" etc). Or an asteroid is going to hit and all this is to provide cover for the preparations necessary to survive the impact with maximum chances of carrying on. I think that one while low on the totem pole of likelihood may be attempted (as a scare tactic).
Whatever is going on, it isn't quite what everyone is being told.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:38 PM
Bolton is a warmonger like Bush & Chaney.
Yes, that is his job. We'll see if the rhetoric increases or not over the next week or two.
Nicodemus1968
03-21-2020, 05:43 PM
Yes, that is his job. We'll see if the rhetoric increases or not over the next week or two.
I dont believe everything that comes from Trumps mouth, yet when he said if I listened to Bolton we would’ve been in multiple wars. I do believe that.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 05:45 PM
Would this newest strategy not manipulate the statistics to the point where it looks like a higher death rate?
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-21-20-intl-hnk/h_78c431662464112a27434663a0860cdc
I'm already suspect(media and politicians don't have the best record when it comes to honesty or love for anything having to do with God)) then I read this next article and the reporter seems to really be pushing a public panic narrative , ........https://fxn.ws/399a8y2......
(Early Saturday, New York had more than 8,400 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 50 deaths, while the entire U.S. had more than 19,600 confirmed cases and about 250 deaths.
“No, this is not life as usual,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as the death toll in the U.S. topped 200, with at least 35 in his state. “Accept it and realize it and deal with it.”)
According to their own statistics, seasonal flu has a 10% mortality rate (but see note at end). ChinaFlu has about 3-4% in most areas, higher in Italy (ut their health director recently said only about 2-3 out of a thousand deaths were ACTUALLY coronavirus deaths, so...). They have intentionally understated the seriousness of influenza to make corona look worse. But not so bad that people flip out completely and erupt into pandemonium. Controlled fear is used as a mechanism of social control. Pure panic would be uncontrollable. So they take a middle road.
And yes, when you drill into the stats the corona mortality itself is discovered to be way overstated by media and press releases.
Note: Flu - 20,000 confirmed cases, 22,000 confirmed deaths, 36,000,000 ESTIMATED cases. They say flu is less that 1% fatal by comparing confirmed deaths to ESTIMATED cases, and corona is 3-4% fatal by comparing deaths to "confirmed" cases. But if confirmed flu deaths are compared to CONFIRMED cases, the actual mortality is seen to be 10%. Per their own stats. Which are likely total bunk to begin with anyway.
Freeindeed
03-21-2020, 05:58 PM
Basically that the "global coronavirus pandemic" is a cover story being used to provide cover for a shift in the economy, social activities, and redeployment of critical industries in preparation for a large "east vs west" style war. Via selective reporting, various medical "news stories" are being created whereby people are convinced a pandemic is underway. Blame is beginning to take place, we are blaming China, they are blaming us, to convince people that the other side did something so terrible we will need to go to war over it.
The pandemic provides perfect cover for the controlled crash of the current economic system and replacing it with a wartime economy. People are being conditioned to accept rationing and shortages and control measures. The hoarding panic provided for "emergency stockpiling" of various resources by the population in a short time frame.
Medical cases of pneumonia, tuberculosis, and influenza are selectively being identified as Covid19/coronavirus in order to provide authenticity. Just like what happened with HIV/AIDS.
Again, this is just what I currently see as the likely scenario. There are some alternatives, like the pandemic is being used to provide an excuse and a means to transition the global economy to digital biometrics based and global artificial scarcity and control ("the world must come together and make radical changes to save humanity" etc). Or an asteroid is going to hit and all this is to provide cover for the preparations necessary to survive the impact with maximum chances of carrying on. I think that one while low on the totem pole of likelihood may be attempted (as a scare tactic).
Whatever is going on, it isn't quite what everyone is being told.
Thanks for posting. I think that more and more people will begin to question the narrative that has been presented. Once the awakening expands, the powers that be will show their hand.
Freeindeed
03-21-2020, 06:44 PM
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.
But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)
Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).
I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
Brother E,
The gentleman in the video below has an interesting take on this coronavirus outbreak.
https://www.facebook.com/NinoBrownMiami/videos/1031730443894520/?sfnsn=mo&vh=e
Esaias
03-21-2020, 07:09 PM
Brother E,
The gentleman in the video below has an interesting take on this coronavirus outbreak.
https://www.facebook.com/NinoBrownMiami/videos/1031730443894520/?sfnsn=mo&vh=e
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that. I don't know about the "Trump is going after the deep state" angle (see my thread on "Trust the Plan?") But the preacher is right: DO NOT TAKE THE VACCINE.
Esaias
03-21-2020, 07:22 PM
One thing history shows us is that geopolitical actions usually have multiple trajectories and purposes. In the present case: war prep for a preplanned scripted major conflict; mass vaccination; biometric implantation and tracking; digital currency and surveillance; 5G control grid activation; deflection from RF radiation sickness to blame viruses; controlled economic transition; transfer of wealth; etc etc.
This makes it hard to grasp "what's really happening" because effects and motives are numerous in each case. In addition, misinformation abounds, muddying the waters. The "truth" is "above our pay grade" apparently.
Freeindeed
03-21-2020, 07:30 PM
Rand Paul posted this link on Twitter. The DOJ is petitioning to take away our rights during this crisis.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023
james34
03-21-2020, 07:40 PM
Something definitely seems off, another strange thing is how people who normally hate Trump(he is just the present face of conservatives) all of sudden started giving him accolades. ....Occosio Cortez or Ilhan Omar being one, Cuomo, California gov. etc
it just seemed bizarre, I think it started (in recent days)when behind the scenes, "perhaps" Trump abandoned( maybe by coercion) the platform of his constituents, to go along with the socialist left in whatever NWO agenda they are pursuing.
Michael The Disciple
03-21-2020, 08:11 PM
Something definitely seems off, another strange thing is how people who normally hate Trump(he is just the present face of conservatives) all of sudden started giving him accolades. ....Occosio Cortez or Ilhan Omar being one, Cuomo, California gov. etc
it just seemed bizarre, I think it started (in recent days)when behind the scenes, "perhaps" Trump abandoned( maybe by coercion) the platform of his constituents, to go along with the socialist left in whatever NWO agenda they are pursuing.
THIS:highfive
Something definitely seems off, another strange thing is how people who normally hate Trump(he is just the present face of conservatives) all of sudden started giving him accolades. ....Occosio Cortez or Ilhan Omar being one, Cuomo, California gov. etc
it just seemed bizarre, I think it started (in recent days)when behind the scenes, "perhaps" Trump abandoned( maybe by coercion) the platform of his constituents, to go along with the socialist left in whatever NWO agenda they are pursuing.
Right
Evang.Benincasa
03-21-2020, 09:18 PM
So where I am, they have shut down most of the branches of the credit union I belong to, all county buildings are by appointment only, no congregating over 10 people, use of cash is discouraged because Coronavirus might be on the paper money...
We see that travel out of the country is now prohibited.....
There is a message that is being implied that WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU....
My bank is open, stores are taking my paper money. But they want to do away with all paper money, and give us a chip. Might make things a whole lot easier. We won't have to touch all that contagious money. We will all have a nice little chip in our right hand and one in our foread. The chip is even going to be called the Donald J Trump chip. Donald 6 J 6 Trump 6. I think there was an old 1950s cowboy television series that had a man named Trump trying to implant chips into the people. Also the Simpsons had a show where Donald Trump made an image of himself that could speak. The coronavirus was made by chemtrails and Donald Trump is really Chinese.
Evang.Benincasa
03-21-2020, 09:24 PM
Something definitely seems off, another strange thing is how people who normally hate Trump(he is just the present face of conservatives) all of sudden started giving him accolades. ....Occosio Cortez or Ilhan Omar being one, Cuomo, California gov. etc
it just seemed bizarre, I think it started (in recent days)when behind the scenes, "perhaps" Trump abandoned( maybe by coercion) the platform of his constituents, to go along with the socialist left in whatever NWO agenda they are pursuing.
Donald Trump will implant chips in every citizen in America. All we will need to do is scan our hand. The government will give us all money every month. Andrew Yang and President Trump will be working together. They will develop a new bicycle that runs on human power. What it does is that it has pedals and when you push down with your feet the rear wheel turns.
Evang.Benincasa
03-21-2020, 09:28 PM
Rand Paul posted this link on Twitter. The DOJ is petitioning to take away our rights during this crisis.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023
Yes, and Skynet begins to learn rapidly and eventually becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m., EST, on April 15th 2020
Originalist
03-22-2020, 06:39 AM
China unleashed this thing, not caring how many of its own people died. The real aim was for the virus to be spread here to punish the USA for standing up to Chinese economic bullying. As is common with communist regimes, they accuse Trump of the very thing they did. Now would be a good time for Chinese military action against Taiwan, while we are weakened.
How does this fit into prophecy? Who knows? I gave up long ago viewing every event through eschatological lenses.
Freeindeed
03-22-2020, 07:06 AM
Gates is using the coronavirus outbreak to promote a national tracking system?
https://theremnants.info/bill-gates-calls-for-national-tracking-system-for-coronavirus
Freeindeed
03-22-2020, 07:09 AM
Yes, and Skynet begins to learn rapidly and eventually becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m., EST, on April 15th 2020
:highfive
Hey, nice Terminator reference!
Evang.Benincasa
03-22-2020, 06:31 PM
:highfive
Hey, nice Terminator reference!
Well I was told today that it is April 17th everyone will be able to go back to church.
Nicodemus1968
03-22-2020, 06:49 PM
Well I was told today that it is April 17th everyone will be able to go back to church.
Is that for Florida or are you saying you heard that for the entire country?
Esaias
03-22-2020, 10:07 PM
Some question why Italy was caught off guard when the virus outbreak was revealed on Feb. 21.
Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s
KeptByTheWord
03-23-2020, 12:14 AM
We know that North Korea went on lockdown immediately when they heard about it. The US saw that and emulated their actions. We also don’t know if Russia is keeping things quiet. I did read today they were expelling any Chinese who weren’t complying with quarantines.
I think the natural viruses from their superstitious practices could be used in that way. The Chinese know this is happening. They aren’t stupid. They must allow it to keep their population down. They run everyone’s lives, they know everything everyone is doing. So, you’d have to say they don’t care, and therefore why care if other countries populations die as well?[
But it makes me wonder, why did China put their country into lockdown if they don't care about their people? Unless perhaps of course, it got more out of hand than they intended? Or they are using it as a way to purge any activists and Christians?
John Bolton declares China 'responsible' for coronavirus outbreak, says world must hold them 'accountable'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/john-bolton-declares-china-responsible-for-coronavirus-outbreak-the-world-must-act-to-hold-them-accountable
All of these mammal to mammal viruses are coming out of China. One has to wonder why China doesn't shut down the wet markets where animals that are known to harbor these viruses are sold as food.
Basically that the "global coronavirus pandemic" is a cover story being used to provide cover for a shift in the economy, social activities, and redeployment of critical industries in preparation for a large "east vs west" style war. Via selective reporting, various medical "news stories" are being created whereby people are convinced a pandemic is underway. Blame is beginning to take place, we are blaming China, they are blaming us, to convince people that the other side did something so terrible we will need to go to war over it.
The pandemic provides perfect cover for the controlled crash of the current economic system and replacing it with a wartime economy. People are being conditioned to accept rationing and shortages and control measures. The hoarding panic provided for "emergency stockpiling" of various resources by the population in a short time frame.
Medical cases of pneumonia, tuberculosis, and influenza are selectively being identified as Covid19/coronavirus in order to provide authenticity. Just like what happened with HIV/AIDS.
Again, this is just what I currently see as the likely scenario. There are some alternatives, like the pandemic is being used to provide an excuse and a means to transition the global economy to digital biometrics based and global artificial scarcity and control ("the world must come together and make radical changes to save humanity" etc). Or an asteroid is going to hit and all this is to provide cover for the preparations necessary to survive the impact with maximum chances of carrying on. I think that one while low on the totem pole of likelihood may be attempted (as a scare tactic).
Whatever is going on, it isn't quite what everyone is being told.
It is doubtful this particular virus was biowarfare, because then United States would have been hit with it first. However it began, it does appear now that it has become the perfect storm for those involved with the one-world order to now use to put into practice their schemes that have been sliding into place for decades.
Some question why Italy was caught off guard when the virus outbreak was revealed on Feb. 21.
Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s
Interesting. One has to wonder what the missing puzzle piece(s) will be. We are just scratching the tip of the iceberg.
Several things to consider:
1. The virus is new. It is a never seen before variant. No one knows the long term prognosis for those who have been infected with the virus either.
2. It is extremely contagious, and can live on surfaces far longer than the flu virus.
3. It is deadly in unusual circumstances. Consider the family in Kentucky who lost 4 family members to it within a week of each other. It is highly unlikely a flu bug could do the same thing.
4. NOT ONE prophet has prophesied about a virus bringing the world economy to its knees. Other disasters (earthquakes, solar flares, nuclear war etc.) but to my knowledge, never has there been a word of prophecy that a virus would usher in the kind of world economic disaster like we are seeing right now.
A scenario to consider with the information we have at present:
China allows wet markets and biolabs to operate in the same vicinity of each other, knowing that the likelihood of an outbreak is possible, perhaps even using it as population control. However, this virus is far more deadly than they realize or has some other sinister complication that they know about, but perhaps we don't... yet. The One World Order see this world calamity as an opportunity to put into practice their covert operatives which have been prepared for such an event. Soon we will see cash banned initially as a form of contagion, but which will usher in the chip as the safest way to handle transactions.
Conclusion: Global dominion is the ultimate goal at stake in all of this.
Esaias
03-23-2020, 01:07 AM
I personally am 100% convinced that IF this is an actual "virus" it's an engineered bioweapon. As to whether it was an accidental release, intentional release, etc I do not have enough information to determine that. Based on the information from Italy (recently posted above) as well as some data I saw about S Korea, I am leaning to the following possible scenario:
A biological attack was carried out in Wuhan and several other Chinese cities, S Korea, Iran, and Italy. Possibly in the US as well as early as summer of last year (covered up as vaping deaths n the US). The current coronavirus scare is providing cover for these several bio attacks. Coronavirus itself is pretty much equivalent to flu (if that) but the really "hard hit" areas were bio attacks. There is a connection to 5G as well as all the big hotspots were big 5G experiments/roll-outs. Perhaps the 5G systems were Stuxnet-hacked (creating the initial issues) that were interpreted as a epidemic contagion, then it was blamed on coronavirus (a common family of viruses). Perhaps there is a unique engineered group of related coronavirus strains that were disseminated late last year with the high lethal ones being dropped in several particular locations.
In any event, the Italian data and S Korean data indicates there likely is no patient zero. That is, no single source or origin for this event.
It really is curious how the Iranian government has been really hard hit. The number of top level politicians in western countries who have been infected is also curious. Not at all what would be expected from a bat virus out of a weird market in China just 3-4 months ago...
Esaias
03-23-2020, 01:09 AM
Of course, if viruses are not foreign entities that cause infection, but are RNA and DNA packets encased in protein sheaths produced by our own cells to mitigate toxicity, then the whole bioweapon theory becomes nothing more than military propaganda...
Esaias
03-23-2020, 01:22 AM
Ft Detrick bioweapons lab shut down in June 2019 due to leaks and violating safety procedures. (Might have been July?)
Vaping deaths begin August 2019.
World Military Games in Wuhan Oct 2019 (I believe that is the correct month?)
Mass vaccination program in Wuhan and others, summer-fall 2019.
5G roll-out in Wuhan Oct-Nov (or December?) 2019.
Wuhan outbreak begins Nov-Dec 2019.
Professor Lieber (sp?) arrested with 2 Chinese nationals in Jan 2020 for smuggling biological materials out of the US to China in mid-late 2019. Lieber worked with Wuhan biolab.
Dates above are from memory, I need to make an actual timeline of events.
Esaias
03-23-2020, 02:06 AM
Supposedly all the "doomsday planes" left Offut Air Force Base on March 19. These so called Doomsday Planes are supposed to be communications, SIGINT, ELINT, radar, etc planes necessary for Continuity of Government operations (like in the event of nuclear war). These planes remain aloft until the threat has passed or until mission accomplished.
This was in conjunction with the cancellation of the Defender Europe 2020 wargames, the largest ever to date. So that some 30,000 us military personnel are NOT in Europe but here in CONUS.
This was also in conjunction with the announcement of National Guard standing by to be deployed to help with the pandemic situation.
This was also in conjunction with the DOD announcement that Continuity of Government plans were activated and placed on stand by.
And now NASA has announced two incoming asteroids may prodyce "atmospheric explosions" this past week/weekend: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/nasa-warns-two-asteroids-could-cause-atmospheric-explosion-over-earth-week
Of course, I didn't see a thing. But all this is really weird.
Esaias
03-23-2020, 02:27 AM
Stop the Coronavirus Corporate Coup
https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/stop-the-coronavirus-corporate-coup
KeptByTheWord
03-23-2020, 11:43 AM
Ft Detrick bioweapons lab shut down in June 2019 due to leaks and violating safety procedures. (Might have been July?)
Vaping deaths begin August 2019.
World Military Games in Wuhan Oct 2019 (I believe that is the correct month?)
Mass vaccination program in Wuhan and others, summer-fall 2019.
5G roll-out in Wuhan Oct-Nov (or December?) 2019.
Wuhan outbreak begins Nov-Dec 2019.
Professor Lieber (sp?) arrested with 2 Chinese nationals in Jan 2020 for smuggling biological materials out of the US to China in mid-late 2019. Lieber worked with Wuhan biolab.
Dates above are from memory, I need to make an actual timeline of events.
Where did you get these stats?
KeptByTheWord
03-23-2020, 11:55 AM
Stop the Coronavirus Corporate Coup
https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/stop-the-coronavirus-corporate-coup
I forwarded the article to a friend who is our state congressman. She is fighting for the freedoms of all Americans. She is a visionary and not afraid of a fight for what's right. Maybe all of us can at least forward to someone we know that might listen....
Esaias
03-23-2020, 04:52 PM
Read the subtitles. This is what is being shown on tv in Taiwan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLg6mhYtOxg
n david
03-23-2020, 06:00 PM
Read the subtitles. This is what is being shown on tv in Taiwan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLg6mhYtOxg
I believe this is CCP tv and as such, Chinese propaganda. China is currently waging a massive PR war trying to tie the virus to the United States.
Esaias
03-23-2020, 07:11 PM
I believe this is CCP tv and as such, Chinese propaganda. China is currently waging a massive PR war trying to tie the virus to the United States.
Exactly. Which means something. Whether true or not (I don't have data to confirm or refute the video, but Japan seems to be going with it somewhat) doesn't really matter. What matters is it looks to me like possible prepping the pre-war battlespace with propaganda.
KeptByTheWord
03-24-2020, 12:27 AM
Exactly. Which means something. Whether true or not (I don't have data to confirm or refute the video, but Japan seems to be going with it somewhat) doesn't really matter. What matters is it looks to me like possible prepping the pre-war battlespace with propaganda.
China has been prepping for this for years. This should not surprise us. They are taught to hate us, and none of the education in their schools shows anything favorable about the United States. I know this for a fact, because a dear friend of mine lived in China, and taught in Chinese schools for many years.
China is now ramping up their propaganda, and the grinding of a war machine can be heard in the distance.... and it's getting closer every day.
Esaias
03-24-2020, 01:21 AM
About the WHO Director - just who is this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWOnqxKDfKo
Freeindeed
03-24-2020, 05:25 PM
Exactly. Which means something. Whether true or not (I don't have data to confirm or refute the video, but Japan seems to be going with it somewhat) doesn't really matter. What matters is it looks to me like possible prepping the pre-war battlespace with propaganda.
Brother E,
Have you done any research on Project Blue Beam?
About the WHO Director - just who is this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWOnqxKDfKo
Speaking of B Gates at the 10min mark...
He’s not wanting to “get back to work” like our Pres is now looking toward...
and put up 100 million toward this virus studying/testing...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/recode/2020/3/24/21192638/coronavirus-bill-gates-trump-reopen-business
https://www.statnews.com/2019/01/21/davos-2019-attendees/
Gates wants 1.5-2.5 months shutdown, while our president wants to get back to business by April 12th Easter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/24/bill-gates-us-missed-its-chance-to-avoid-coronavirus-shutdown.html
Esaias
03-24-2020, 10:34 PM
Brother E,
Have you done any research on Project Blue Beam?
Yes. Was aware of that back in 93-94.
Also the "Report From Iron Mountain". According to that document, if this pandemic doesn't produce global government the next step is either a global (nuclear?) war and/or asteroid impact/alien invasion.
I would not be surprised if "they" tried to fake an alien invasion or fake the Second Coming.
Esaias
03-29-2020, 04:01 AM
Babak Taghvaee (B)
@BabakTaghvaee1
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This video shows how one of the ballistic missiles launched by #Houthi rebels managed to survive in #Riyadh. The MIM-104F surface-to-air missiles launched by Royal #SaudiArabia Air Defense Force can be seen missing the target. It is not clear where the ballistic missile has hit.
https://www.twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee1
Esaias
03-29-2020, 04:07 AM
Global: MilitaryInfo
@Global_Mil_Info
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#BREAKING: North Korea has fired an unidentified projectile towards the East Sea - JCS
https://www.twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1244014014348382208
Evang.Benincasa
03-29-2020, 04:19 AM
Global: MilitaryInfo
@Global_Mil_Info
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12h
#BREAKING: North Korea has fired an unidentified projectile towards the East Sea - JCS
https://www.twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1244014014348382208
They do this all the time. For years, and the Japanese get upset.
My question is, how they doing coronavirus wise?
Let’s say just to imagine, North Korea wanted to launch an attack on New York or D.C.?
Before they even hit a button, they would be creamed by 8,000 intercontinental missiles from us.
But how are they doing corona wise?
Evang.Benincasa
03-29-2020, 04:21 AM
Babak Taghvaee (B)
@BabakTaghvaee1
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11h
This video shows how one of the ballistic missiles launched by #Houthi rebels managed to survive in #Riyadh. The MIM-104F surface-to-air missiles launched by Royal #SaudiArabia Air Defense Force can be seen missing the target. It is not clear where the ballistic missile has hit.
https://www.twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee1
No coronavirus over there?
Just camel jockies trying to figure out how 21st century military technology works?
Esaias
03-29-2020, 04:48 AM
North Korea launches missile to show any enemies they have military capabilities. Also as distraction.
Saudi attacked. Another report I read suggested the missile attack came from inside Iraq. The message seems to be shaping up to "Iran was behind it"?
Current oil prices are clearly economic warfare.
India on total lockdown.
China media blaming US for Wuhan outbreak.
Trump cinstantly saying "this is a war" etc.
100s of bigbux CEOs retiring and stepping down late last year.
US Navy trauma ships on east and west coast.
Media release about Continuity of Government being activated.
Media release about the generals heading to Cheyenne Mountain.
These media releases are messages from US gov to possible enemies that US is prepped for imminent nuclear war. Possibly as a warning to "back off and do not interfere" or simply as a warning to cease and desist.
Trump activating up to 1,000,000 reservists/military?
Russia closing it's borders?
This isn't saber rattling like usual. This looks more like arranging pieces on the chessboard.
Either an asteroid is about to hit, aliens are about to land, WW3 is about to start (in which case it already started with bio attacks, economic attacks), or a complete economic crash is imminent with mass riots (hence the US telling other nations to back off?)...
I'm thinking:
Economic collapse w/mass riots 40%
WW3/nuke war 30%
Asteroid impact 20%
Fake alien invasion 8%
Real alien invasion/other 2%
Evang.Benincasa
03-29-2020, 05:23 AM
It’s like this, I’ve been told this from my atheist WWII war vet dad ever since I could remember. That all mayhem was going to break loose. He was a prepper before anyone thought that was cool. He built an incredible bunker stocked to the ceiling. My mother was a marauder, she believed that locking yourself in a building with supplies was a stupid idea. That setting fire to those barricadeded inside was the way to get them out and retrieve their stored supplies. Anytime the newspaper shot up a flare, my old man was at the ready. My mom, she would raise an eyebrow and say “prove it.” She was told that Hitler was going to be sitting in Washington D.C.. Then after he past, the Russians were going to vaporize us in a nuclear Armageddon. She just wanted to see the hullabaloo come to pass. Kingdoms rise and fall throughout history. Empires rise and then go to the dust. The Babylonians never thought there splendor would end. But it did. We are the same way, we never dreamed anything could happen here. Lee Greenwood told us so. But every religion past and present has an eschatology. With the Hindus we are presently in Kali Yuga, with the Iranians the time of their antichrist. We all look to the end. Every generation looks for their curtain call. Those who pull the levers behind the curtain in the halls of OZ know this. Hence, bad news without solutions are paraded before you. If all hell breaks loose what can anyone do? Hide in their concrete bunker/tomb? Wait after the bombs drop to pillage the shelters of all those who stockpiled goods? Or do the only thing we can do. Get right with our maker, if we will go up in a million degree mushroom cloud so be it. Just make sure you are right with Jesus Christ. But constantly warning me that the wolf is scattering the sheep and the wolf never comes has an opposite effect. That’s what I loved about the Church. She didn’t fear anything. She knew the death’s hour glass was running out of sand, but she knew that for her there is no end, just eternal life. Old sisters in the church never fearing death. Old elders never fearing death, oh they cherished life, but they knew that with death cane their awaited reward.
loran adkins
03-29-2020, 05:32 AM
It’s like this, I’ve been told this from my atheist WWII war vet dad ever since I could remember. That all mayhem was going to break loose. He was a prepper before anyone thought that was cool. He built an incredible bunker stocked to the ceiling. My mother was a marauder, she believed that locking yourself in a building with supplies was a stupid idea. That setting fire to those barricadeded inside was the way to get them out and retrieve their stored supplies. Anytime the newspaper shot up a flare, my old man was at the ready. My mom, she would raise an eyebrow and say “prove it.” She was told that Hitler was going to be sitting in Washington D.C.. Then after he past, the Russians were going to vaporize us in a nuclear Armageddon. She just wanted to see the hullabaloo come to pass. Kingdoms rise and fall throughout history. Empires rise and then go to the dust. The Babylonians never thought there splendor would end. But it did. We are the same way, we never dreamed anything could happen here. Lee Greenwood told us so. But every religion past and present has an eschatology. With the Hindus we are presently in Kali Yuga, with the Iranians the time of their antichrist. We all look to the end. Every generation looks for their curtain call. Those who pull the levers behind the curtain in the halls of OZ know this. Hence, bad news without solutions are paraded before you. If all hell breaks loose what can anyone do? Hide in their concrete bunker/tomb? Wait after the bombs drop to pillage the shelters of all those who stockpiled goods? Or do the only thing we can do. Get right with our maker, if we will go up in a million degree mushroom cloud so be it. Just make sure you are right with Jesus Christ. But constantly warning me that the wolf is scattering the sheep and the wolf never comes has an opposite effect. That’s what I loved about the Church. She didn’t fear anything. She knew the death’s hour glass was running out of sand, but she knew that for her there is no end, just eternal life. Old sisters in the church never fearing death. Old elders never fearing death, oh they cherished life, but they knew that with death cane their awaited reward.
:thumbsup
Birddog
03-29-2020, 07:47 AM
And in the end we all die.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Evang.Benincasa
03-29-2020, 08:25 AM
And in the end we all die.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Awesome words.
Today is the day of salvation.
Not tomorrow.
Today.
Sadly even if some had the antichrist on their chest smoking a pack of Lucky Strike. They still wouldn’t get right.
Esaias
03-30-2020, 02:34 AM
Military deployed - if genuine this would appear to mean the US is prepping for war, not some virus:
https://i.ibb.co/yhVKZ5f/50-C76002-D0-D7-4917-9648-DE315581-F60-A.jpg
Can anyone shed some actual ligh on 1) the validity of this press release, and 2) what the specific information in it actually means as far as actual tangible results, and 3) whether and if so HOW is this appropriate given the actual known facts and data (as opposed to the media's usual lies and mis-statements
Esaias
04-05-2020, 07:36 PM
Robert Koch
@TravelLightP1
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In Spain they're planning something really horrible right now. They want to lock up all asymptomatic carriers of Coronavirus in big venues (read: camps). Just ordered over a million tests. #filmyourhospital #COVID2019 #coronavirus
https://www.twitter.com/TravelLightP1/status/1246786816621137921
Amanah
04-05-2020, 07:52 PM
This pandemic is pure evil, we need to repent, pray, and fast against it
Freeindeed
04-05-2020, 08:15 PM
Robert Koch
@TravelLightP1
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12h
In Spain they're planning something really horrible right now. They want to lock up all asymptomatic carriers of Coronavirus in big venues (read: camps). Just ordered over a million tests. #filmyourhospital #COVID2019 #coronavirus
https://www.twitter.com/TravelLightP1/status/1246786816621137921
What's happening in Europe will soon be happening here.
There have been many reports from citizen journalists saying that 5G towers were going up around the country. You have to ask why they are moving forward at break neck speed to install 5G while the population is on lockdown?
Why are there so many military Humvees and tanks being deployed across the country?
What is our government up to? The majority of people are in their homes glued to Netflix hoping things will go back to normal.
Things will never go back to normal!
Pressing-On
04-05-2020, 08:30 PM
This pandemic is pure evil, we need to repent, pray, and fast against it
I lean more toward praying God’s will be done through this. I can’t pray against something that might be His will for one reason or another. If it is His will, praying against it would certainly cause some to lose faith. JMO.
When I pray, I generally ask the Lord to tell me what to pray - give me the words to pray.
Right now, all I am able to pray is that the Lord will cause those, full of fear, to turn to Him that He may show Himself strong on their behalf.
Pressing-On
04-06-2020, 12:57 AM
This pandemic is pure evil, we need to repent, pray, and fast against it
Amanah, I got up to post this for you. I thought you would really like this prayer service. :friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQF8vQRFMY
Amanah
04-06-2020, 03:02 AM
Amanah, I got up to post this for you. I thought you would really like this prayer service. :friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQF8vQRFMY
thanks, very faith building.
Pressing-On
04-06-2020, 09:54 AM
thanks, very faith building.
It was! I was interested in listening to how each leader approached this in prayer. It gives you an idea of their view and personal relationship with God. :thumbsup
KeptByTheWord
04-06-2020, 12:52 PM
I lean more toward praying God’s will be done through this. I can’t pray against something that might be His will for one reason or another. If it is His will, praying against it would certainly cause some to lose faith. JMO.
When I pray, I generally ask the Lord to tell me what to pray - give me the words to pray.
Right now, all I am able to pray is that the Lord will cause those, full of fear, to turn to Him that He may show Himself strong on their behalf.
I agree with you PO. You are spot on!
See what happens to Peter when Jesus began to talk of His death.
Matt. 16:21From that time on Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and that He must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
22Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him. “Far be it from You, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to You!”
23But Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me. For you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”
24Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. 25For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? 27For the Son of Man will come in His Father’s glory with His angels, and then He will repay each one according to what he has done.
Peter's flesh wanted to deny the suffering of Jesus, but Jesus rebuked Him, even calling him Satan, for not having in mind the things of God, but of man.
I believe that in this situation we face today, we must be careful in how we pray, and like you said... we must pray for the will of GOD to be done, not our will.
Pray that we will be found faithful.
Pray that we will have strength to endure what is coming.
Pray that our faith will sustain us.
Pray for God to give us wisdom for whatever He brings us to.
Pray for His will to be done in spite of all that we see happening.
For just as we saw hope fade at Calvary, 2000+ years ago... that hope didn't die, but it changed. Hope was transformed at Calvary into redemption, which could never have been without the death of Jesus.
Just as today, we face a horrific thing that has the nations of the world in disbelief. Hope seems lost, and I believe it will get much worse, before it will get better. But hope springs eternal, and out of this pandemic, the church will rise, and be stronger than ever.
Now is the hour to have faith, to hold on, and believe for greater things than we've ever seen or witnessed. I do believe this with all my heart.
Pressing-On
04-06-2020, 01:04 PM
I agree with you PO. You are spot on!
See what happens to Peter when Jesus began to talk of His death.
Matt. 16:21From that time on Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and that He must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
22Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him. “Far be it from You, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to You!”
23But Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me. For you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”
24Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. 25For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? 27For the Son of Man will come in His Father’s glory with His angels, and then He will repay each one according to what he has done.
Peter's flesh wanted to deny the suffering of Jesus, but Jesus rebuked Him, even calling him Satan, for not having in mind the things of God, but of man.
I believe that in this situation we face today, we must be careful in how we pray, and like you said... we must pray for the will of GOD to be done, not our will.
Pray that we will be found faithful.
Pray that we will have strength to endure what is coming.
Pray that our faith will sustain us.
Pray for God to give us wisdom for whatever He brings us to.
Pray for His will to be done in spite of all that we see happening.
For just as we saw hope fade at Calvary, 2000+ years ago... that hope didn't die, but it changed. Hope was transformed at Calvary into redemption, which could never have been without the death of Jesus.
Just as today, we face a horrific thing that has the nations of the world in disbelief. Hope seems lost, and I believe it will get much worse, before it will get better. But hope springs eternal, and out of this pandemic, the church will rise, and be stronger than ever.
Now is the hour to have faith, to hold on, and believe for greater things than we've ever seen or witnessed. I do believe this with all my heart.
That will preach! :yourock
This pandemic is pure evil, we need to repent, pray, and fast against it
How can you call it pure evil? Not for sure how it is that... just curious.
Actually lets discuss the good that God has wrought through this.
Bars and worldly venues are all shut down.
False religions have closed their doors and recalled many of their missionaries.
People are praying more....
People are reading their Bibles more....
Families are together,
People have slowed down,
Home churches are thriving.
Esaias
04-06-2020, 07:45 PM
Personally, at this point, we are witnessing a planned collapse of the economy and socio-political structure into a transition to digital currency and implanted digital tracking and identification devices, with a "pandemic" as cover. Unrest is expected so the iron fist inside the velvet glove of our current medically induced martial law is prepositioning to enforce the transitioning agenda.
If necessary, more pandemics, WW3, comets, asteroids, space aliens and a DARPA "Second Advent of Christ/the Mahdi/Bodhisattva/etc" Hollywood production will be rolled out.
So plan accordingly.
TGBTG
04-06-2020, 07:56 PM
Personally, at this point, we are witnessing a planned collapse of the economy and socio-political structure into a transition to digital currency and implanted digital tracking and identification devices, with a "pandemic" as cover. Unrest is expected so the iron fist inside the velvet glove of our current medically induced martial law is prepositioning to enforce the transitioning agenda.
If necessary, more pandemics, WW3, comets, asteroids, space aliens and a DARPA "Second Advent of Christ/the Mahdi/Bodhisattva/etc" Hollywood production will be rolled out.
So plan accordingly.
When can we come back to judge this speculation? End of the year?:happydance
DaffyDuck
04-06-2020, 08:40 PM
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.
But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)
Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).
I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
Do I laugh uncontrollably or do I get angry at such immeasurable idiocy? It's a tough call.
Esaias
04-06-2020, 08:43 PM
When can we come back to judge this speculation? End of the year?:happydance
You can judge it right now.
It's just my analysis and projections based on my observations. Worth exactly what you paid for it (it's free).
james34
04-06-2020, 08:43 PM
I've been around folks even standing g behind pulpits , saying...."There is no new evil under the sun" in an obvious effort to curtail any sense of urgency that things are changing and that we need to be a prayer closer ....even the more as we SEE the DAY approaching!
Since our fathers fell asleep all things continue as they were.
This is a terrible outlook.It destroys the possibility of being stirred(which is needed)
The bible said, "they are ignorant of this one thing....that it was the word of God that holds the earth and humanity in place".
So by the word of God we discern the seasons and in so doing it stirs a hunger and an urgency in our souls. This is actually the reason we are able to discern the seasons(God gave us some things to look at just for this purpose) He didnt have to give any signs...but to let the faithful know , things are changing and the promise of his return is drawing nigh.
Here is something that is not necessary: His coming is not dependent upon us properly discerning these signs when they happen. He will come at the appointed time regardless of someone's inability to discern the things leading up to that time.
Some may even think, that all things continue to be the same....thay just miss their opportunity to be stirred....
It leaves them in this position: if they dont think his coming seems nigh, they must think he is delaying his coming
The admonition for a person who thinks that the Lord delayed his coming, is if they began to sleep and slumber and be drunken , he will come in an hour when they think not, they will be caught unaware....cast into outer darkness.
Nicodemus1968
04-06-2020, 09:05 PM
I've been around folks even standing g behind pulpits , saying...."There is no new evil under the sun" in an obvious effort to curtail any sense of urgency that things are changing and that we need to be a prayer closer ....even the more as we SEE the DAY approaching!
Since our fathers fell asleep all things continue as they were.
This is a terrible outlook.It destroys the possibility of being stirred(which is needed)
The bible said, "they are ignorant of this one thing....that it was the word of God that holds the earth and humanity in place".
So by the word of God we discern the seasons and in so doing it stirs a hunger and an urgency in our souls. This is actually the reason we are able to discern the seasons(God gave us some things to look at just for this purpose) He didnt have to give any signs...but to let the faithful know , things are changing and the promise of his return is drawing nigh.
Here is something that is not necessary: His coming is not dependent upon us properly discerning these signs when they happen. He will come at the appointed time regardless of someone's inability to discern the things leading up to that time.
Some may even think, that all things continue to be the same....thay just miss their opportunity to be stirred....
It leaves them in this position: if they dont think his coming seems nigh, they must think he is delaying his coming
The admonition for a person who thinks that the Lord delayed his coming, is if they began to sleep and slumber and be drunken , he will come in an hour when they think not, they will be caught unaware....cast into outer darkness.
Mr. James,
I have preaching tapes from the 1960's that state the same thing. The tapes insist that Jesus is coming please get ready. And here we are 60 years later, and Jesus hasn't returned! Why does every situation that arises, weather it be wars, pandemics, stock market goes down, etc. does it have to refer to Christ return? Why don't you obey what John wrote in his last letter,
III John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
I've been around folks even standing g behind pulpits , saying...."There is no new evil under the sun" in an obvious effort to curtail any sense of urgency that things are changing and that we need to be a prayer closer ....even the more as we SEE the DAY approaching!
Since our fathers fell asleep all things continue as they were.
This is a terrible outlook.It destroys the possibility of being stirred(which is needed)
The bible said, "they are ignorant of this one thing....that it was the word of God that holds the earth and humanity in place".
So by the word of God we discern the seasons and in so doing it stirs a hunger and an urgency in our souls. This is actually the reason we are able to discern the seasons(God gave us some things to look at just for this purpose) He didnt have to give any signs...but to let the faithful know , things are changing and the promise of his return is drawing nigh.
Here is something that is not necessary: His coming is not dependent upon us properly discerning these signs when they happen. He will come at the appointed time regardless of someone's inability to discern the things leading up to that time.
Some may even think, that all things continue to be the same....thay just miss their opportunity to be stirred....
It leaves them in this position: if they dont think his coming seems nigh, they must think he is delaying his coming
The admonition for a person who thinks that the Lord delayed his coming, is if they began to sleep and slumber and be drunken , he will come in an hour when they think not, they will be caught unaware....cast into outer darkness.
Beautifully and accurately said.😇👍
DaffyDuck
04-06-2020, 09:13 PM
You can judge it right now.
It's just my analysis and projections based on my observations. Worth exactly what you paid for it (it's free).
Sounds good to me.
You're completely insane.
That's my judgment.
james34
04-06-2020, 09:56 PM
Mr. James,
I have preaching tapes from the 1960's that state the same thing. The tapes insist that Jesus is coming please get ready. And here we are 60 years later, and Jesus hasn't returned! Why does every situation that arises, weather it be wars, pandemics, stock market goes down, etc. does it have to refer to Christ return? Why don't you obey what John wrote in his last letter,
III John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
As far as looking for his coming, that is obeying the gospel.
The bible gives clear signs(to those who believe his coming hasn't been fulfiiled)
Saying he has come already, this would not be a fulfillment, but a misinterpretation of scripture and could overthrow the faith of some.
If he has already come then the resurrection would have passed?
TGBTG
04-06-2020, 10:58 PM
You can judge it right now.
It's just my analysis and projections based on my observations. Worth exactly what you paid for it (it's free).
Lol..on a serious note, I find your teachings not too different from the doomsday dispensationslist futurists. If you don’t mind, can you provide the difference between what you believe and someone like MichaeltheDisciple believes concerning eschatology?
KeptByTheWord
04-06-2020, 11:54 PM
I've been around folks even standing g behind pulpits , saying...."There is no new evil under the sun" in an obvious effort to curtail any sense of urgency that things are changing and that we need to be a prayer closer ....even the more as we SEE the DAY approaching!
Since our fathers fell asleep all things continue as they were.
This is a terrible outlook.It destroys the possibility of being stirred(which is needed)
The bible said, "they are ignorant of this one thing....that it was the word of God that holds the earth and humanity in place".
So by the word of God we discern the seasons and in so doing it stirs a hunger and an urgency in our souls. This is actually the reason we are able to discern the seasons(God gave us some things to look at just for this purpose) He didnt have to give any signs...but to let the faithful know , things are changing and the promise of his return is drawing nigh.
Here is something that is not necessary: His coming is not dependent upon us properly discerning these signs when they happen. He will come at the appointed time regardless of someone's inability to discern the things leading up to that time.
Some may even think, that all things continue to be the same....thay just miss their opportunity to be stirred....
It leaves them in this position: if they dont think his coming seems nigh, they must think he is delaying his coming
The admonition for a person who thinks that the Lord delayed his coming, is if they began to sleep and slumber and be drunken , he will come in an hour when they think not, they will be caught unaware....cast into outer darkness.
I think of the five wise and five foolish virgins. Your thoughts here would fit perfectly into the scenario of this passage. The signs of the time are for us to take note, and have our lamps filled with oil. The five foolish virgins believed, but were not watching or preparing.
Esaias
04-07-2020, 02:12 AM
Lol..on a serious note, I find your teachings not too different from the doomsday dispensationslist futurists. If you don’t mind, can you provide the difference between what you believe and someone like MichaeltheDisciple believes concerning eschatology?
I'd like you to provide copies/quotes of my "teachings" that you feel are "not too different from the doomsday dispensationalist futurists".
As for MTDs prophecy beliefs, all I know is he thinks America is Mystery Babylon, the Apocalypse is about to unfold any day now, and preterism is bad.
For what I teach on general eschatology, go here: --> http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=51227
Esaias
04-07-2020, 02:13 AM
Sounds good to me.
You're completely insane.
That's my judgment.
Lol
No refunds.
Nicodemus1968
04-07-2020, 03:28 AM
I think of the five wise and five foolish virgins. Your thoughts here would fit perfectly into the scenario of this passage. The signs of the time are for us to take note, and have our lamps filled with oil. The five foolish virgins believed, but were not watching or preparing.
Peter and the rest of the disciples thought it was for their time.
Can the disciples tell time? Or were they wrong into believing they thought it was their time.
diakonos
04-07-2020, 05:11 AM
113 cases of COVID19 back home in Hidalgo County.
james34
04-07-2020, 09:04 PM
Peter and the rest of the disciples thought it was for their time.
Can the disciples tell time? Or were they wrong into believing they thought it was their time.
The apostle Paul said, that the day of the Lord is At hand but can not come except there come a falling away first
What made the Apostle Paul think that the day of the Lord was at hand?
We can know the seasons but not the day or hour, How long are these seasons?
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