View Full Version : Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
Esaias
04-03-2020, 12:48 PM
Will you take the soon to be released Corona Vaccine? The poll is anonymous.
consapente89
04-03-2020, 12:55 PM
I don't know.
hometown guy
04-03-2020, 01:01 PM
I don’t think I will..
Michael The Disciple
04-03-2020, 01:19 PM
After I have been knocked out and restrained.
Amanah
04-03-2020, 01:32 PM
Once I see how MTD does, I will think about it.
navygoat1998
04-03-2020, 02:49 PM
Only if it comes with a microchip :happydance
KeptByTheWord
04-03-2020, 03:19 PM
The vaccine most likely will come with a stipulation... unless you have it, you won't be able to fly, go into government buildings, or public places.
Nicodemus1968
04-03-2020, 03:24 PM
Once I see how MTD does, I will think about it.
:heeheehee
Nicodemus1968
04-03-2020, 03:24 PM
I will pass.
james34
04-03-2020, 03:37 PM
I think if you concede your right to assemble you will it.
My conviction is not tto take it.
Amanah
04-03-2020, 04:00 PM
I think if you concede your right to assemble you will it.
My conviction is not tto take it.
Brother, do you not take any vaccinations or see the doctor for anything? Or do you feel that this particular vaccination has a special significance?
Esaias
04-03-2020, 04:11 PM
ALL vaccines are a scam and lower your overall health. Many are deadly to many people.
n david
04-03-2020, 06:05 PM
If you take the flu vaccine or the pneumonia vaccine, you'll take the corona vaccine.
Like the flu vaccine, I doubt the corona vaccine will be very effective each year. Likely there will be some type of mutation that will render it ineffective.
Tithesmeister
04-03-2020, 06:17 PM
I have never taken the flu shot. It seems to me that I do better than most. I just can’t get excited about taking a shot to fix something that’s not broken. Now if I saw evidence of others not getting the flu, while I am? I might reconsider. But I have never seen that to be the case.
Nicodemus1968
04-03-2020, 06:30 PM
I have never taken the flu shot. It seems to me that I do better than most. I just can’t get excited about taking a shot to fix something that’s not broken. Now if I saw evidence of others not getting the flu, while I am? I might reconsider. But I have never seen that to be the case.
I agree. Haven’t had the flu shot since I was a child, and I think I got the flu ounce that I can remember
james34
04-03-2020, 08:14 PM
Brother, do you not take any vaccinations or see the doctor for anything? Or do you feel that this particular vaccination has a special significance?
I avoid the vaccinations if possible, I have had a tetanus once about 12 yrs ago,
It seems lately the government has been willing to cross the line and began mandating vaccinations.
Steven Avery
04-03-2020, 09:19 PM
Last I checked, I did not have a deficiency in aborted fetal tissue, random DNA, pus, monkey or animal innards, and supposed viruses, wanted dead or alive. Or Bill Gates microchips.
So I will pass, by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Esaias
04-03-2020, 11:51 PM
Last I checked, I did not have a deficiency in aborted fetal tissue, random DNA, pus, monkey or animal innards, and supposed viruses, wanted dead or alive. Or Bill Gates microchips.
So I will pass, by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.
:highfive
Esaias
04-03-2020, 11:52 PM
If you take the flu vaccine or the pneumonia vaccine, you'll take the corona vaccine.
Like the flu vaccine, I doubt the corona vaccine will be very effective each year. Likely there will be some type of mutation that will render it ineffective.
Vaccines are VERY effective. Just not in the way most people think.
Esaias
04-04-2020, 07:42 PM
11 people voted no they absolutely will not be taking Bill Gates' vaccine. (Even if it's made in Israel and already just about ready to go?)
Nobody has said they will or even might take it.
THAT'S some good news.
Now just stay away from the 5G and "WIGIG" 5G home routers etc.
diakonos
04-05-2020, 02:58 AM
If they’re passing out free nachos...
Hello all. Long time no see. I left nursing school when they tried to force me to take a flu shot in 2012.....and have not taken any vaccines since. I don't want one. If they make this mandatory.....take it or else no health care etc. if I did it it would be an exception to the rule and I would do it very grudgingly. I have a lot of concerns about it. I would try to get out of it any way I can.
Steven Avery
04-06-2020, 11:16 PM
If they’re passing out free nachos... Or a bowl of lentils?
Genesis 25:34
Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles;
and he did eat and drink, and rose up,
and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
KeptByTheWord
04-06-2020, 11:49 PM
Hello all. Long time no see. I left nursing school when they tried to force me to take a flu shot in 2012.....and have not taken any vaccines since. I don't want one. If they make this mandatory.....take it or else no health care etc. if I did it it would be an exception to the rule and I would do it very grudgingly. I have a lot of concerns about it. I would try to get out of it any way I can.
:highfive
diakonos
04-07-2020, 05:18 AM
Or a bowl of lentils?
Genesis 25:34
Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles;
and he did eat and drink, and rose up,
and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
No. I don’t like lentils.
Michael The Disciple
04-07-2020, 05:58 AM
Hello all. Long time no see. I left nursing school when they tried to force me to take a flu shot in 2012.....and have not taken any vaccines since. I don't want one. If they make this mandatory.....take it or else no health care etc. if I did it it would be an exception to the rule and I would do it very grudgingly. I have a lot of concerns about it. I would try to get out of it any way I can.
:highfive
Jito463
04-07-2020, 06:09 PM
I have never taken the flu shot. It seems to me that I do better than most. I just can’t get excited about taking a shot to fix something that’s not broken. Now if I saw evidence of others not getting the flu, while I am? I might reconsider. But I have never seen that to be the case.
I've never taken a vaccination shot in my entire adult life, and don't ever remember getting one as a kid. If I did, it was when I was much younger. My body has natural immunities built up. I may not have one for C19, but if I do get it, then my body will fight it off like it has any other infection.
My boss actually offered me a face mask to wear, I fervently declined the offer. The only time I might consider it, is if I had to make a visit to the retirement center near us, as a means to protect the elderly.
Esaias
04-19-2020, 04:53 AM
Just wondering how many who said no will buckle under and obey when told they MUST AND SHALL get Bill Gates' vaccine?
Michael The Disciple
04-19-2020, 05:15 AM
Just wondering how many who said no will buckle under and obey when told they MUST AND SHALL get Bill Gates' vaccine?
The same could be asked about the mark of the beast. If they are actually two things.
diakonos
04-19-2020, 05:16 PM
The same could be asked about the mark of the beast. If they are actually two things.
Uh, in YOUR eschatology people know they’re receiving the mark of whatever.
And where is the beast? The false prophet?
Is Bill Gates one of them?
votivesoul
04-19-2020, 10:39 PM
Uh, in YOUR eschatology people know they’re receiving the mark of whatever.
And where is the beast? The false prophet?
Is Bill Gates one of them?
And the Bill Gates of hell shall not prevail...???
diakonos
04-20-2020, 05:01 AM
And the Bill Gates of hell shall not prevail...???
:lol
Esaias
05-14-2020, 08:54 PM
Trump says military being mobilized NOW to give the vaccine to everybody at year's end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oqel5LZw
mfblume
05-14-2020, 09:37 PM
Trump says military being mobilized NOW to give the vaccine to everybody at year's end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oqel5LZw
That does not mean it is going to be mandatory, though. Just the military used to administer it.
mfblume
05-14-2020, 09:38 PM
The same could be asked about the mark of the beast. If they are actually two things.
I want the Lord's computer chip, vaccine, or whatever counters the recent form of the mark this year, on my forehead as per Rev 14:1 two verses later than the mark.
james34
05-14-2020, 10:46 PM
Trump says military being mobilized NOW to give the vaccine to everybody at year's end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oqel5LZw
Yeah and he seems excited about it, he's a puppet.
Scott Pitta
05-14-2020, 10:49 PM
There is currently no vaccine. I doubt there will be one anytime in the next year. Nor is there any guarantee there will ever be one.
james34
05-14-2020, 10:54 PM
That does not mean it is going to be mandatory, though. Just the military used to administer it.
This is looking at the glass "half full"
KeptByTheWord
05-14-2020, 11:17 PM
If Bill Gates and his cronies don't get a vaccine through with this round of covid, there will be another virus, or "crisis" with a vaccine that "will" work. It does seem to be the easiest way to track all mankind somewhat noninvasively. What will Christians do then?
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 05:23 AM
If Bill Gates and his cronies don't get a vaccine through with this round of covid, there will be another virus, or "crisis" with a vaccine that "will" work. It does seem to be the easiest way to track all mankind somewhat noninvasively. What will Christians do then?
The right question. What I hear is you will have to have proof you have taken it to buy and sell.
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 05:25 AM
There is currently no vaccine. I doubt there will be one anytime in the next year. Nor is there any guarantee there will ever be one.
Just my speculation but I think they had one ready from the git go. Just waiting until the people are on their knees begging for it.
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 05:28 AM
That does not mean it is going to be mandatory, though. Just the military used to administer it.
Is the military being used currently to administer vaccines? Have they ever before? We are so far gone as a society this doesn't even raise an eyebrow?
n david
05-15-2020, 10:00 AM
The right question. What I hear is you will have to have proof you have taken it to buy and sell.
:hmmm
KeptByTheWord
05-15-2020, 11:16 AM
I want the Lord's computer chip, vaccine, or whatever counters the recent form of the mark this year, on my forehead as per Rev 14:1 two verses later than the mark.
Could you expound your thoughts on this a little more?
mfblume
05-15-2020, 11:21 AM
Is the military being used currently to administer vaccines? Have they ever before? We are so far gone as a society this doesn't even raise an eyebrow?
Sure, we should raise an eyebrow and see what happens. But it did not say it would be mandatory. If it comes to do that, then it's certainly bad. But just because military is a involved does not mean it is mandatory. We had flooding up here in our region and military were used to place sandbags because they are at the disposal of being able to help and they're everywhere.
mfblume
05-15-2020, 11:23 AM
Could you expound your thoughts on this a little more?
lol
I meant that whatever the mark is, the consistency of the interpretation of the symbol must be maintained between it and the seal of God in the foreheads. There is God's ways and the devil's ways. This is beast's (not antichrist's by the way) mark and the seal of God, and both go on the forehead. If the mark is a computer chip, then we must maintain consistency and say God's seal is a computer chip.
The mark changes every year. One year it's the Universal Product Code. Next Year it's the SSN. Then it's the computer RFID chip. Now it's a VACCINE of all things!
mfblume
05-15-2020, 01:20 PM
Deut 6 says that the law of God would be as frontlets between the yes and bound to the hand. Some Jews literally put phylacteries on their forehead and hands.
God told Moses that people must love the Lord with heart, soul and might. Spirit soul, and body. And binding it to your forehead meant dedicating your will to obedience of God's law and the hand stood of committing your body to carry it out in your obedience.
Well, as Moses was getting this from God, Israel was below Mount Sinai committing idolatry with the IMAGE OF THE BEAST., A golden calf.
Satan had counterfeited the worship to God as worship to a beast. Satan has his answer to God's law. That is rebellion and symbolized by the mark of the beast in the forehead or hand, as opposed to God's law there.
You've actually got the entire Exodus pattern of events in Revelation, including the beast, its image and the mark. The Lamb's blood redeemed Israel out of Egypt and we read of that in Rev 5.
You've got the plagues similar to the Exodus wrath on Egypt.
And even the image of the beast being worshiped with satan's answer to God's law on theforehead and hand. And as Moses stood on Sinai and told those who were on the Lord's side to come to him, the 144,000 stand with the lamb on ZION. ANd as Moses told them to slay those who worshipped the image of he beast, and 3,000 "fell" in death that day, Rev 14 says that BABYLON IS FALLEN, while the 144,000 STOOD on ZION with the Lamb.
Exodus would end with Israel buildings temple in Jerusalem generations later, and Rev ends with the NEW Jerusalem, the bride in symbolic form, being established.
When you see this pattern in Exodus and Revelaiton, and then stop and think about a computer chip, vaccine or UPC code thought to be the mark, those things become quite ridiculous.
As the Law 's MARK (MARK is Greek for "ENGRAVING", as God ENGRAVED the law on stone) on the forehead and hand stood fo will and might committed to obey it, the devil's mark of the beast stood for will and might dedicated to rebellion and self exaltation and Israel dedicated themselves to serve CAESAR as their king rather than Christ in outright spiritual adultery against he Lord their groom who had come to the daughter of Zion. She adulterated with Rome, killed her groom and made the worst crime that could only be matched by the entire Church today denying Jesus as her groom .
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 02:27 PM
When you see this pattern in Exodus and Revelaiton, and then stop and think about a computer chip, vaccine or UPC code thought to be the mark, those things become quite ridiculous.
Some think of everything in scripture to be ONLY what they would call "spiritual". It never manifests itself in actuality. While there is a "spiritual" reality there is also a literal reality.
For instance the Holy Ghost is a "seal" to the Christian to the day of redemption. We already have this seal. Nonetheless is the seal or "earnest" all there is to the kingdom of God? Of course not.
Lets look at this mark of the beast from the Bible.
Rev. 13:11-18
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
It looks like there are 2 beings addressed. The beast and false prophet. Actual events are ascribed to them. The beast dies or comes close to death and lives again. We find out later he rules over 10 kings.
The false prophet has amazing power to do miracles. Calls down fire from heaven. An image is made to the beast. The false prophet causes men to worship the beast and his image and to take the mark of the beast.
If it is true that the right hand and forehead really ONLY means disobedience to God why does God put these things in context of a future time? All sinners would have been said to have the mark of the beast! All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. All have transgressed the law of God.
And if the mark of the beast is ONLY disobedience to God apart from the context of Revelation NO SINNER COULD BE SAVED!
Those who take the mark of the beast are said to be doomed. If you have it you CANNOT be saved.
So if the mark of the beast merely symbolizes rebellion against God why would the false prophet have to CAUSE men to take it? They would ALREADY HAVE IT.
It seems obvious that the mark has to do with more than just Israel. Perhaps in hyperbole but nonetheless it is told us that all "kindreds, tongues, and nations" shall worship him.
So this mark IN CONTEXT has to do with all nations at the time just before the glorious coming of Jesus Christ where he will gather the nations to fight against him.
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 02:35 PM
I am not persuaded at this time we are at the mark of the beast. We dont see the man of sin manifest or the false prophet. We dont see him taking rule of ten nations. So this may not be the time. It could still yet be future.
But on the other hand things can happen rapidly. Just think how fast America went from being a free country to where we are now. Other prophetic events could be just around the corner.
It certainly seems to me the vaccine question is valid. If men are given a vaccine that modifys their DNA are they still men? Perhaps THIS is the reason one cannot be saved after having taken it?
TGBTG
05-15-2020, 03:07 PM
The prophecies in the book of revelation does not revolve around america or modern day Europe...until people begin to see that, Obama or future democrat president or pope or middle eastern warlord, etc is the antichrist..:happydance
Been there, got the t-shirt..next!!:thumbsup
mfblume
05-15-2020, 03:51 PM
The prophecies in the book of revelation does not revolve around america or modern day Europe...until people begin to see that, Obama or future democrat president or pope or middle eastern warlord, etc is the antichrist..:happydance
Been there, got the t-shirt..next!!:thumbsup
Right!
mfblume
05-15-2020, 03:53 PM
Some think of everything in scripture to be ONLY what they would call "spiritual". It never manifests itself in actuality. While there is a "spiritual" reality there is also a literal reality.
Many spiritual things are physical, but you must also believe spiritual means non-physical.
For instance the Holy Ghost is a "seal" to the Christian to the day of redemption. We already have this seal. Nonetheless is the seal or "earnest" all there is to the kingdom of God? Of course not.
What is more about the seal of God that you consider to be a literal reality, and by that you must mean PHYSICAL reality?
Lets look at this mark of the beast from the Bible.
It looks like there are 2 beings addressed. The beast and false prophet. Actual events are ascribed to them. The beast dies or comes close to death and lives again. We find out later he rules over 10 kings.
The false prophet has amazing power to do miracles. Calls down fire from heaven. An image is made to the beast. The false prophet causes men to worship the beast and his image and to take the mark of the beast.
If it is true that the right hand and forehead really ONLY means disobedience to God why does God put these things in context of a future time? All sinners would have been said to have the mark of the beast! All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. All have transgressed the law of God.
And if the mark of the beast is ONLY disobedience to God apart from the context of Revelation NO SINNER COULD BE SAVED!
Those who take the mark of the beast are said to be doomed. If you have it you CANNOT be saved.
So if the mark of the beast merely symbolizes rebellion against God why would the false prophet have to CAUSE men to take it? They would ALREADY HAVE IT.
It seems obvious that the mark has to do with more than just Israel. Perhaps in hyperbole but nonetheless it is told us that all "kindreds, tongues, and nations" shall worship him.
So this mark IN CONTEXT has to do with all nations at the time just before the glorious coming of Jesus Christ where he will gather the nations to fight against him.
The mark did take a form. Caesar demanded worship of the COLOSSUS at the stadium entrance. ANd the AGORA required a paper for you to enter and buy and sell, showing allegiance to Caesar as GOD.
But there is so much to the pattern of Revelaiton and Exodus, and none of that is related in modern futurism. None of it.
What is the seal of God if more than the HOLY GHOST?
mfblume
05-15-2020, 03:58 PM
My view of the entire book of Revelation chapter by chapter in playlist on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzm_rtdV65NVlnLL78pdLyKekP39fqllb
diakonos
05-15-2020, 04:50 PM
:hmmm
Can’t buy or sell for refusing a vaccine, therefore the vaccine is the mark of the beast!??
Man, the way some people interpret the scripture... SMH
Esaias
05-15-2020, 04:50 PM
Bill Gates Explains that the Covid Vaccine will Use Experimental Technology and Permanently Alter Your DNA
May 15, 2020
https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/05/15/bill-gates-explains-that-the-covid-vaccine-will-use-experimental-technology-and-permanently-alter-your-dna/
Esaias
05-15-2020, 04:55 PM
FUTURISM: Made-for-TV prophecy hysterics.
Those who have bought into the lies of futurism have NO IDEA what's actually going on. Here's a clue:
Preacher: "The beast is gonna rise up, control everything, make everybody take the mark. And if you don't take the mark you're gonna be killed! You're gonna die! I'm not gonna take the mark! Hallelujah!"
Hello? Hello? Anybody home?
Esaias
05-15-2020, 05:04 PM
From a different perspective...
The Land beast or false prophet causes people to take a mark of ownership and identification or allegience to the (1st? Or 2nd beast?) while constructing an image of the first beast, empowering it to operate as though alive.
The mark, being a counterfeit of God's mark, thus includes a counterfeit holy day calendar (including a counterfeit weekly holy day) and a counterfeit collection of divine law (canon law). What entity arose to control the oikomenos (the territory of Greco-Roman civilisation), introduced changes to the liturgical calendar, including introducing a new weekly holy day called Day of the Sun(god), replacing Biblical authority with ecclesiastical authority or Canon Law? Which built a copy or image of Imperial Rome and empowered it to cause everyone to submit to said mark? That is, to enforce compliance with the new counterfeit religion?
Whose God is born on Dec 25th, and is thus clearly the Sun God known as Baal? Who always was a counterfeit "Lord" and "God"? Who was the God of Egypt (Amon-Ra) which was called a sea dragon (Isaiah 27:1ff)?
Which persecuted the true saints of God throughout the oikomenos for over a millennia? Which established its authority over men in large measure through "miracles, signs, and wonders" including apparitions of Mary, weeping statues, and other miracles attributed to relics and remains of dead "saints"?
Futurism was invented by the Jesuits as part of the Counter Reformation, as a means of countering and redirecting the growing resistance to papal tyranny.
Esaias
05-15-2020, 05:11 PM
From a different perspective...
The Land beast or false prophet causes people to take a mark of ownership and identification or allegience to the (1st? Or 2nd beast?) while constructing an image of the first beast, empowering it to operate as though alive.
The mark, being a counterfeit of God's mark, thus includes a counterfeit holy day calendar (including a counterfeit weekly holy day) and a counterfeit collection of divine law (canon law). What entity arose to control the oikomenos (the territory of Greco-Roman civilisation), introduced changes to the liturgical calendar, including introducing a new weekly holy day called Day of the Sun(god), replacing Biblical authority with ecclesiastical authority or Canon Law? Which built a copy or image of Imperial Rome and empowered it to cause everyone to submit to said mark? That is, to enforce compliance with the new counterfeit religion?
Whose God is born on Dec 25th, and is thus clearly the Sun God known as Baal? Who always was a counterfeit "Lord" and "God"? Who was the God of Egypt (Amon-Ra) which was called a sea dragon (Isaiah 27:1ff)?
Which persecuted the true saints of God throughout the oikomenos for over a millennia? Which established its authority over men in large measure through "miracles, signs, and wonders" including apparitions of Mary, weeping statues, and other miracles attributed to relics and remains of dead "saints"?
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 08:54 PM
What is more about the seal of God that you consider to be a literal reality, and by that you must mean PHYSICAL reality?
The Holy Ghost is an invisible seal that marks a believer UNITIL the day of redemption. There is a two fold manifestation of Gods work. The Spirit is the work of God here and now in the present.
Yet there is something even greater that the Spirit prepares one for. I do not call it "physical" but a better term for this discussion is ACTUAL.
The receiving of the Spirit makes a person spiritually minded and enables him to walk with God now. The greater aspect or the ACTUAL fulfillment of Gods work will come at the day of redemption. The day one actually (not just by faith) enters the kingdom of heaven.
2 Peter 1:10-11
10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
So the point is there is a FORETASTE of the kingdom by the Spirit now. There is a greater manifestation later as we in ACUALITY enter the heavenly kingdom.
The mark did take a form. Caesar demanded worship of the COLOSSUS at the stadium entrance. ANd the AGORA required a paper for you to enter and buy and sell, showing allegiance to Caesar as GOD.
So Caesar in your opinion fufills the role of Revelations beast? Who was his false prophet? What were his great miracles? How does buying and selling in Rome in century 1 fulfill Revelation 13 that all kindreds, tongues, and nations would worship the beast?
And most importantly if Caesar was the beast then you apparently must think Jesus came 2000 years ago and defeated him.
Rev. 19:19-20
19And I saw the beast, (NERO) and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20And the beast (NERO) was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
We what you call "futurists" kind of have a problem with this interpretation.
Nothing like this happened in the days of Nero. The real beast of Revelation 13 is defeated by Jesus and cast alive into the lake of fire. I dont think there are any historic witnesses of this taking place.
The kingdom of Rome went on existing and ruling the earth for hundreds of more years. So IMO partial preterism is not to be considered as a fulfillment of the beast, false prophet, and the mark of the beast.
Michael The Disciple
05-15-2020, 09:04 PM
FUTURISM: Made-for-TV prophecy hysterics.
Those who have bought into the lies of futurism have NO IDEA what's actually going on. Here's a clue:
Preacher: "The beast is gonna rise up, control everything, make everybody take the mark. And if you don't take the mark you're gonna be killed! You're gonna die! I'm not gonna take the mark! Hallelujah!"
Hello? Hello? Anybody home?
You call lies what Jesus revealed. The "preacher" in your joke apparently is more truthful than the modern day scoffers. He would be commended by Jesus for his faithfulness.
Esaias
05-15-2020, 09:19 PM
You call lies what Jesus revealed. The "preacher" in your joke apparently is more truthful than the modern day scoffers. He would be commended by Jesus for his faithfulness.
You are clueless, sorry you couldn't figure out what I was saying.
So, you go right on ahead with your plans TO DIE. Others of us have actually read The Master's Plan, and we intend to follow THAT instead of your goofy 17th century Jesuit propaganda.
jfrog
05-15-2020, 11:18 PM
May 15, 2020
https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/05/15/bill-gates-explains-that-the-covid-vaccine-will-use-experimental-technology-and-permanently-alter-your-dna/
I don't think that article adequately captures what that the RNA vaccine technology is doing. It doesn't involve actually changing your DNA. It's more like DNA is the processor and this is a new program for them to run.
Viruses reproduce by using RNA to take over a cell's function. RNA vaccines would work similarly to the virus in many ways (except hopefully not destroying the cell in the process).
It's an interesting vaccine method, but it's too soon to say what unintended side effects could occur from it.
jfrog
05-15-2020, 11:19 PM
You are clueless, sorry you couldn't figure out what I was saying.
What purpose does this rhetoric serve?
Esaias
05-16-2020, 01:45 AM
What purpose does this rhetoric serve?
It's purpose was served.
Do you have sources for your claims concerning rna vaccines?
Esaias
05-16-2020, 01:48 AM
New vaccines alter your DNA - this was before the plandemic, October last year:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=53593
Esaias
05-16-2020, 02:20 AM
Plandemic, a Film about the Global Plan to Take Control of Our Lives, Liberty, Health & Freedom
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TrHy61ug0tjz/
Esaias
05-16-2020, 02:35 AM
Just a conspiracy theory, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf9rd0xwrZM
jfrog
05-16-2020, 03:15 AM
It's purpose was served.
Which was?
Do you have sources for your claims concerning rna vaccines?
I didn't have one. Just having read about how viruses work and what these vaccines were doing was enough. But if you want a source I think this should be sufficient.
https://www.phgfoundation.org/briefing/rna-vaccines
There is another kind of rna virus as well. It contains RNA that inserts itself into the hosts DNA to make copies. HIV would be an example of this.
I can't find much detailing the differences between RNA vaccines and DNA vaccines - I'm assuming it's the difference between how an RNA virus like a coronavirus behaves and an RNA virus like HIV behaves. But I need to confirm.
jfrog
05-16-2020, 03:25 AM
Further research shows Wikipedia has decent articles on the 2 methods:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_vaccination
Of particular note on DNA vaccination:
Adverse effects[edit]
Risk of affecting genes controlling cell growth
Possibility of inducing antibody production against DNA
Compare with RNA Vaccine
Advantages over DNA vaccines[edit]
In addition to sharing the advantages of DNA vaccines over protein vaccines, RNA vaccination offers further benefits that make it a more viable alternative to DNA vaccines.
The mRNA is translated in the cytosol. Therefore there is no need for the RNA to enter the cell nucleus, and the risk of being integrated to the host genome is averted.[1]
mfblume
05-16-2020, 12:25 PM
The Holy Ghost is an invisible seal that marks a believer UNITIL the day of redemption. There is a two fold manifestation of Gods work. The Spirit is the work of God here and now in the present.
Yet there is something even greater that the Spirit prepares one for. I do not call it "physical" but a better term for this discussion is ACTUAL.
The receiving of the Spirit makes a person spiritually minded and enables him to walk with God now. The greater aspect or the ACTUAL fulfillment of Gods work will come at the day of redemption. The day one actually (not just by faith) enters the kingdom of heaven.
2 Peter 1:10-11
10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
So the point is there is a FORETASTE of the kingdom by the Spirit now. There is a greater manifestation later as we in ACUALITY enter the heavenly kingdom.
So Caesar in your opinion fufills the role of Revelations beast? Who was his false prophet? What were his great miracles? How does buying and selling in Rome in century 1 fulfill Revelation 13 that all kindreds, tongues, and nations would worship the beast?
And most importantly if Caesar was the beast then you apparently must think Jesus came 2000 years ago and defeated him.
Rev. 19:19-20
19And I saw the beast, (NERO) and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20And the beast (NERO) was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
We what you call "futurists" kind of have a problem with this interpretation.
Nothing like this happened in the days of Nero. The real beast of Revelation 13 is defeated by Jesus and cast alive into the lake of fire. I dont think there are any historic witnesses of this taking place.
The kingdom of Rome went on existing and ruling the earth for hundreds of more years. So IMO partial preterism is not to be considered as a fulfillment of the beast, false prophet, and the mark of the beast.
I have every answer to every question you posed. All in my 36-part video series in youtube posted here earlier. I could reiterate it here and take the time, but if you Sincerely want to know, check the videos. Each part in the list shows the verses covered.
Michael The Disciple
05-16-2020, 02:59 PM
I have every answer to every question you posed. All in my 36-part video series in youtube posted here earlier. I could reiterate it here and take the time, but if you Sincerely want to know, check the videos. Each part in the list shows the verses covered.
No thanks. If it takes 36 videos to answer a question about a few verses I'll pass..
mfblume
05-16-2020, 04:07 PM
No thanks. If it takes 36 videos to answer a question about a few verses I'll pass..
read what I said, I said each video is accompanied with a note of the verses covered in the video, in the overall entire list of them all, so you can go to the right video that deals with the very chapters and verses you're talking about. There's no need of going through all the videos. But I've already outlined everything in those videos, and it would be me taking the time to do in detail what I've already done. But you didn't even take the time to read my post that explained that.
diakonos
05-16-2020, 05:21 PM
No thanks. If it takes 36 videos to answer a question about a few verses I'll pass..
Then don’t post your long videos here
jfrog
05-16-2020, 05:46 PM
Futurism was invented by the Jesuits as part of the Counter Reformation, as a means of countering and redirecting the growing resistance to papal tyranny.
Maybe the problem is that the book was so unclear that they could make something like that up?
Michael The Disciple
05-16-2020, 07:59 PM
Then don’t post your long videos here
Mike offered the choice. He and I first discussed partial preterism on the Good News Cafe 20 years ago. We have done it various times here. I believe I have shown even in this thread it cannot be right. Now if he would answer the questions I put out in a shortened way I would read it. Otherwise I'll pass. The first Church I attended after repenting was a partial preterist Church.
When I put a video here you have a choice. Everyone else has a choice. I dont post anything here JUST for the regular people that are here.
I do get people contacting me who dont post at all. I solicit comments or questions on my videos from anyone here who wants to and is half way courteous.
We all have the choice to comment on threads or not. Thats a good thing.
Esaias
05-16-2020, 08:36 PM
Maybe the problem is that the book was so unclear that they could make something like that up?
So you believe the Bible is so unclear anyone can make anything up they want?
You know, in a sense, you're actually right. God gives man enough rope to climb out of the pit of ignorance and darkness... or hang himself with.
diakonos
05-16-2020, 09:31 PM
Now if he would answer the questions I put out in a shortened way I would read it. Otherwise I'll pass.
Yet, you avoided answering questions like the coro... like the plague. Rather, you created a thread about “magic.”
Michael The Disciple
05-16-2020, 09:56 PM
Yet, you avoided answering questions like the coro... like the plague. Rather, you created a thread about “magic.”
I dont recall not answering questions about it. And yet there is something to consider. If I have in the past given my answer and it is rejected, I see no need to go over and over the same disagreements.
I have many times answered question and had people say Im not answering their questions. Well I did they just rejected the answer. They have the right to disagree with me but if I give them an answer the best I know they shouldnt say I didnt answer.
Of course there are things I may have to just say Im not sure about.
As far as the MAGIC THREAD how disappointing to find out if one is "Apostolic" he can call himself a MAGICIAN and have an idol set up right behind his head while he teaches Bible study and no one is moved at all!
I DID contact his call screener and told what I wanted to talk about but guess what! Not a word back! Im so surprised.
jfrog
05-17-2020, 09:28 AM
So you believe the Bible is so unclear anyone can make anything up they want?
But I'm certainly not the one claiming that some group made something up that wasn't in the bible and convinced many others it was actually there.
If anyone believes that's possible it's apparently you.
Esaias
05-17-2020, 03:28 PM
But I'm certainly not the one claiming that some group made something up that wasn't in the bible and convinced many others it was actually there.
If anyone believes that's possible it's apparently you.
I bet you wear a coronamask when you go out. If not, you should. :thumbsup
jfrog
05-17-2020, 10:51 PM
I bet you wear a coronamask when you go out. If not, you should. :thumbsup
Probably should but I've been out so rarely over the last 2 months, and the places I go all involve minimal contact with anyone that I don't. I think I've been out maybe 4-5 times in the last 2 months.
I pretty much know I don't have it due to the frequency of my outings. Generally spaced out 2+ weeks apart.
james34
05-18-2020, 09:04 PM
Probably should but I've been out so rarely over the last 2 months, and the places I go all involve minimal contact with anyone that I don't. I think I've been out maybe 4-5 times in the last 2 months.
I pretty much know I don't have it due to the frequency of my outings. Generally spaced out 2+ weeks apart.
Is this due to fear of getting the ChineseFlu?
jfrog
05-18-2020, 11:33 PM
Is this due to fear of getting the ChineseFlu?
Define fear of getting the ChineseFlu?
Do I want to get it? No. Will I take reasonable precautions to help ensure I don't get it. Yes. Do I think I'm going to die if I get it? No. Do I think I'm going to pass it along to someone else if I get it? Besides my wife - No - but that's because of my precautions.
I think there's a small chance that we will see a 2nd wave in America for a brief time (months from now) - because eventually 90% of the population is likely going to be back to business as usual and this will still be here. But if that happens we will be in good shape to manage it and it won't last long.
Evang.Benincasa
05-27-2020, 10:53 PM
Define fear of getting the ChineseFlu?
WEARING A MASK WHEN YOU ARE IN YOUR CAR ALONE.
Do I want to get it?
Yes, because then you can say you died from it.
No.
Clearly your no, mean yes.
Will I take reasonable precautions to help ensure I don't get it.
Precautions? They aren't precautions, they are liberal bleeding heart fashion statements. Wearing a mask, wearing gloves, holding up a line of people, so you can look back self righteously as you rub yourself down in hand sanitizer.
Yes.
Oh this is the smug YES! That you proudly say to anyone who doubts the great and powerful OZ. Which dictates that we should propagate the stupid social distancing, and self quarantine circus.
Do I think I'm going to die if I get it? No.
Here is where stupid meets logic. Then why in the name of common sense were you self quarantining and mask wearing when we had other pandemics hit our shores???? You didn't, you didn't wear a mask, or want others to stay home and lose their jobs. To destroy a whole entire industry like cruise ships. Who all the people who once worked on them are unemployed. You flitterd your way through H1N1, Zeka, West Nile Virus, and Ebola. This world doesn't have to worry about a great tribulation or armageddon. Because everyone is riding the full blown stupid train. Oh, and don't worry about another country invading us, because they are just as stupid as we are.
Do I think I'm going to pass it along to someone else if I get it? Besides my wife - No - but that's because of my precautions.
There we go, Mr Hero American. I bet you stand akimbo as you say the above sentence. Do you wear a cape and keep repeating, "I'm batman." You taking precautions??? How stupid can we be??? Washing your hands? You mean to tell me you never washed your hands prior to 2020? You mean you been going all day without washing your hands? Newsflash, washing your hands isn't prevention my boy, because every joker around you doesn't wash their filthy mitts. matter of fact they pick their nose while they make your burger and fries. Preparing food should of been the first things they should of stopped, but they didn't. Homeless people kept soldiering on, the most contagious group of walking dead found in every city. spreading the disease. Social distancing???? What a laugh!!! Do you sleep 6 feet away from your wife? No matter how hard you try you can't stay 6 feet away from strangers all the time. Oh, but you are wearing a mask? You still have the largest organ on your body taking everything in, its the biggest filter. It is your skin!!!! Good grief I bet you hamsters never considered that, that is because you know nothing. Only what your godless media wants you to know.
I think there's a small chance that we will see a 2nd wave in America for a brief time (months from now) - because eventually 90% of the population is likely going to be back to business as usual and this will still be here. But if that happens we will be in good shape to manage it and it won't last long.
It wont last long? Bro, this was done to us and we have lemmings like you to thank. We won't ever storm the Bastille, because we have you and Scott Pitta to tell us that eating cake is a good option. Brave New World is here buddy boy, and the churches failed miserably. Great tribulation, Antichrist Mark of the Beast??? My lands the churches would be first in line to do whatever they are told by the television, the internet, or whatever spew font pours on them. It won't last long? Sunny Jim, we deserve nothing but fire and fury upon this land, we deserve the wheels of iron crushing our pygmy skulls. Because the fear of God is not among us. Outrage isn't just dead in this country, but it has been cremated and thrown to the four corners of the wind. Church closings and live streaming nonsense. While the atheists looked on and nodded their heads. The church is a paper tiger, once again. Yeah Jfrong you wear your mask and wash your hands to make your little contribution to the masses. Continue to tell us to go along with CDC, because after all they love us and care about our best interest. The higher ups hate our guts, we are a blight on the land. If they could push a button and we all go away they'd press it already. history is a great teacher, it teaches us there is only two classes the haves and the have nots. Coronavirus, good luck with that, we swallowed the hook, and we will bleed a long time to come.
james34
05-28-2020, 07:51 AM
!!Ouch!! Somebody just totally extinguished the flames of the Eutopian Pandemic with an overdue flood of reality water. This is the only way to cure those who have tarried too long at the Kool-aid, that is dilute it down to a level where it is no longer harmful by pouring in the TRUTH.
jfrog
05-31-2020, 12:32 AM
WEARING A MASK WHEN YOU ARE IN YOUR CAR ALONE.
Yes, because then you can say you died from it.
Clearly your no, mean yes.
Precautions? They aren't precautions, they are liberal bleeding heart fashion statements. Wearing a mask, wearing gloves, holding up a line of people, so you can look back self righteously as you rub yourself down in hand sanitizer.
Oh this is the smug YES! That you proudly say to anyone who doubts the great and powerful OZ. Which dictates that we should propagate the stupid social distancing, and self quarantine circus.
Here is where stupid meets logic. Then why in the name of common sense were you self quarantining and mask wearing when we had other pandemics hit our shores???? You didn't, you didn't wear a mask, or want others to stay home and lose their jobs. To destroy a whole entire industry like cruise ships. Who all the people who once worked on them are unemployed. You flitterd your way through H1N1, Zeka, West Nile Virus, and Ebola. This world doesn't have to worry about a great tribulation or armageddon. Because everyone is riding the full blown stupid train. Oh, and don't worry about another country invading us, because they are just as stupid as we are.
There we go, Mr Hero American. I bet you stand akimbo as you say the above sentence. Do you wear a cape and keep repeating, "I'm batman." You taking precautions??? How stupid can we be??? Washing your hands? You mean to tell me you never washed your hands prior to 2020? You mean you been going all day without washing your hands? Newsflash, washing your hands isn't prevention my boy, because every joker around you doesn't wash their filthy mitts. matter of fact they pick their nose while they make your burger and fries. Preparing food should of been the first things they should of stopped, but they didn't. Homeless people kept soldiering on, the most contagious group of walking dead found in every city. spreading the disease. Social distancing???? What a laugh!!! Do you sleep 6 feet away from your wife? No matter how hard you try you can't stay 6 feet away from strangers all the time. Oh, but you are wearing a mask? You still have the largest organ on your body taking everything in, its the biggest filter. It is your skin!!!! Good grief I bet you hamsters never considered that, that is because you know nothing. Only what your godless media wants you to know.
It wont last long? Bro, this was done to us and we have lemmings like you to thank. We won't ever storm the Bastille, because we have you and Scott Pitta to tell us that eating cake is a good option. Brave New World is here buddy boy, and the churches failed miserably. Great tribulation, Antichrist Mark of the Beast??? My lands the churches would be first in line to do whatever they are told by the television, the internet, or whatever spew font pours on them. It won't last long? Sunny Jim, we deserve nothing but fire and fury upon this land, we deserve the wheels of iron crushing our pygmy skulls. Because the fear of God is not among us. Outrage isn't just dead in this country, but it has been cremated and thrown to the four corners of the wind. Church closings and live streaming nonsense. While the atheists looked on and nodded their heads. The church is a paper tiger, once again. Yeah Jfrong you wear your mask and wash your hands to make your little contribution to the masses. Continue to tell us to go along with CDC, because after all they love us and care about our best interest. The higher ups hate our guts, we are a blight on the land. If they could push a button and we all go away they'd press it already. history is a great teacher, it teaches us there is only two classes the haves and the have nots. Coronavirus, good luck with that, we swallowed the hook, and we will bleed a long time to come.
Seems to me the Pharisees in the bible were the only people I've ever heard about that were depicted as mocking someone more than you.
Evang.Benincasa
05-31-2020, 07:37 AM
Seems to me the Pharisees in the bible were the only people I've ever heard about that were depicted as mocking someone more than you.
Jfrog, you live in Brigadoon. I just live in the real world, and deal with people who live and work in the streets. Oddly enough, the pandemic passed them by. Due to they having to deal with the day to day grind of survival. Things are in full swing here in Palm, Broward and Dade. People are getting sick and tired of the liberal media, and the let them eat crack attitude from people like you.
Amanah
11-12-2020, 09:08 PM
This is what we learned about at mid week bible study:
basically, don't take the vaccine or you will fry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggMGGWpeKc
Evang.Benincasa
11-13-2020, 04:47 AM
This is what we learned about at mid week bible study:
basically, don't take the vaccine or you will fry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggMGGWpeKc
Wow, unleash the flying monkeys!
Patent number 060606? Or is it WO2020060606A1? The interesting thing is this, when people selectively leave out information. Which one sounds more ominous? WO2020060606A1 or 060606? But looking deeper into this cow pie we see there is no mention of nano partical technology. No mention of any sort of interactive micro chip technology. RFID implants in hands, head, or hind quarters. Also in attempts to put fear into the listener the speaker uses the 060606 ( it only can work on a Christian audience) but the number in the NT is 666 not 060606, or WO2020060606A1. The later never mentioned because it doesn’t hold the same affect. Thank you Sister Amanah for posting this.
Jito463
11-14-2020, 07:25 AM
https://www.today.com/tmrw/ticketmaster-asking-future-concertgoers-covid-19-test-results-or-vaccine-t198908
Ticket Master wants you to provide evidence of taking the vaccine or show that you've been tested, before you can attend any future live events. Since the news broke, they've backpedaled and claimed it's just an "option" they're considering, and it would be up the event organizer.
However, the company is looking at how it can use technology as a tool to prevent concerts from turning into virus superspreader events. That plan could include asking ticket holders to share whether they've been vaccinated or have tested negative for the virus within a certain window of time, dependent on local rules, according to a Billboard report.
"We’re already seeing many third-party health care providers prepare to handle the vetting — whether that is getting a vaccine, taking a test, or other methods of review and approval — which could then be linked via a digital ticket so everyone entering the event is verified," Mark Yovich, president of Ticketmaster,
From the linked article:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/touring/9481166/ticketmaster-vaccine-check-concerts-plan/
Here's how it would work, if approved: After purchasing a ticket for a concert, fans would need to verify that they have already been vaccinated (which would provide approximately one year of COVID-19 protection) or test negative for coronavirus approximately 24 to 72 hours prior to the concert. The length of coverage a test would provide would be governed by regional health authorities -- if attendees of a Friday night concert had to be tested 48 hours in advance, most could start the testing process the day before the event. If it was a 24-hour window, most people would likely be tested the same day of the event at a lab or a health clinic.
Once the test was complete, the fan would instruct the lab to deliver the results to their health pass company, like CLEAR or IBM. If the tests were negative, or the fan was vaccinated, the health pass company would verify the attendee's COVID-19 status to Ticketmaster, which would then issue the fan the credentials needed to access the event. If a fan tested positive or didn't take a test to verify their status, they would not be granted access to the event. There are still many details to work out, but the goal of the program is for fans to take care of vaccines and testing prior to the concert and not show up hoping to be tested onsite.
Ticketmaster would not store or have access to fans' medical records and would only receive verification of whether a fan is cleared to attend an event on a given date.
The thing is, you could go in for a C19 test, and be infected minutes later by interacting with someone who has it, so what good does testing do? None. We actually had a customer Thursday who cancelled an on-site visit because he was "deathly afraid of catching Covid" (his words), and wouldn't let us come out until we were tested first. People put far too much faith in medicine and "science".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTpECvkyP8o
Jito463
11-14-2020, 07:29 AM
I just noticed one more thing from the article, that's worth noting:
To date, the Food and Drug Administration has not approved any third-party companies to provide the complex technology needed to deliver real-time vaccination results, but Ticketmaster president Mark Yovich expects the demand for digital screening services -- which will be needed for airline travel, employment verification and theme park entry -- will attract a new wave of investors and entrepreneurs to fuel the growth of a new COVID-19 technology sector.
Not a problem, never used Ticketmaster, probably won't fly , what is the problem?
So far, with just a couple of weeks to go before they have final results, the Pfizer trial is showing 90% efficacy rate which is great AND it is not made from any fetal matter.
As a diabetic with malignant cancer you can bet your sweet bippie I will be in line to get it as soon as i can. The Pfizer one is the two step one where you get one shot and then 21 days later a second one.
Esaias
11-22-2020, 12:36 PM
So apparently the new Trump vaccine against the KungFlu works by modifying your DNA so the virus doesn't recognise you as a human host. It also causes sterility (estimated to sterilize 97% of women who receive it). It also causes your feet to rot in place and psychologically damages you (one early vaccine recipient reported "I can't feel God anymore"???!!!).
Trump's Operation Warp Speed is supposed to give everybody the vaccine within a 24-48 hour period, all at once, with the help of the military of course.
Meanwhile something happened in Senegal that looks like an outbreak of something similar to smallpox. Remember, smallpox is real, and nobody has immunity. What did Bill Gates recently say? "People didn't take this pandemic very seriously. But they will definitely take the next one seriously."
jediwill83
11-22-2020, 01:32 PM
So apparently the new Trump vaccine against the KungFlu works by modifying your DNA so the virus doesn't recognise you as a human host. It also causes sterility (estimated to sterilize 97% of women who receive it). It also causes your feet to rot in place and psychologically damages you (one early vaccine recipient reported "I can't feel God anymore"???!!!).
Trump's Operation Warp Speed is supposed to give everybody the vaccine within a 24-48 hour period, all at once, with the help of the military of course.
Meanwhile something happened in Senegal that looks like an outbreak of something similar to smallpox. Remember, smallpox is real, and nobody has immunity. What did Bill Gates recently say? "People didn't take this pandemic very seriously. But they will definitely take the next one seriously."
Um no...thats a whole buncha nope.
diakonos
11-22-2020, 01:54 PM
Um no...thats a whole buncha nope.
Nope, you don’t believe his post, or..!?
Esaias
11-22-2020, 09:55 PM
If this vaccine alters DNA, I wonder how many other vaccines have had similar effects?
Will probably have to teach your kids not to marry anyone who got this vax.
Most of the Eloi won't bother of course. So there's probably going to be a split in the species.
Lemon
11-23-2020, 12:25 AM
Can anyone VERIFY if one of the vaccines really has th sterility, "mental health", and DNA altering effect previously mentioned?
I, for one, was planning to take one of the vaccines.
diakonos
11-23-2020, 12:33 AM
Can anyone VERIFY if one of the vaccines really has th sterility, "mental health", and DNA altering effect previously mentioned?
I, for one, was planning to take one of the vaccines.
Don’t hold your breath.
Esaias
11-23-2020, 02:48 AM
Can anyone VERIFY if one of the vaccines really has th sterility, "mental health", and DNA altering effect previously mentioned?
I, for one, was planning to take one of the vaccines.
1. Vaccine is mRNA vaccine, never before tested on humans. It contains mRNA genetic material that controls how your DNA operates. In other words, you become a human version of the ubiquitous GMO corn that produces its own pesticides. But of course, the entire main stream media and pharmaceutical companies are telling everyone its perfectly fine and will do nothing except keep you from getting the ChynaFlu, and of course they never lie and always have our best interests at heart.
2. Gates Foundation funded vaccines have been sterilizing people all over Africa (the world's guinea pig). Gates has been THE main pusher of the whole COVID19 and COVID19 Vaccine agenda from day 1. He has publicly stated he wants to use vaccines to reduce the world's population to more "manageable" levels.
Never mind the fact that SarsCov2 has never actually been isolated and therefore has never been proven medically to even exist, that COVID19 has a survival rate comparable to the flu, that the vast majority of "cases" aren't actual cases, that everyone has been caught lying about fatality rates and causes of death, that asymptomatic "carriers" are noncontagious, and that if the Ministry of Truth hadn't told you anything you'd never know a "pandemic" was even happening....
Esaias
11-23-2020, 03:07 AM
One promising approach aimed at dramatically increasing the immunogenicity of genetic vaccines involves making them ‘self-replicating’. This can be accomplished by using a gene encoding RNA replicase, a polyprotein derived from alphaviruses, such as Sindbis virus. Replicase-containing RNA vectors are significantly more immunogenic than conventional plasmids, immunizing mice at doses as low as 0.1 μg of nucleic acid injected once intramuscularly. Cells transfected with ‘self-replicating’ vectors briefly produce large amounts of antigen before undergoing apoptotic death. This death is a likely result of requisite double-stranded (ds) RNA intermediates, which also have been shown to super-activate DC. Thus, the enhanced immunogenicity of ‘self-replicating’ genetic vaccines may be a result of the production of pro-inflammatory dsRNA, which mimics an RNA-virus infection of host cells.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1986720/
What Is Transfection?
Transfection is the process of inserting genetic material, such as DNA and double stranded RNA, into mammalian cells. The insertion of DNA into a cell enables the expression, or production, of proteins using the cells own machinery, whereas insertion of RNA into a cell is used to down-regulate the production of a specific protein by stopping translation. While the site of action for transfected RNA is the cytoplasm, DNA must be transported to the nucleus for effective transfection. There, the DNA can be transiently expressed for a short period of time, or become incorporated into the genomic DNA, where the change is passed on from cell to cell as it divides.
https://www.jove.com/t/5068/an-introduction-to-transfection
Esaias
11-23-2020, 03:18 AM
Is this Bill Gates (edit: clearly not him, somebody else) talking about vaccinating people against "religious fundamentalism"? Lot of controversy about this one, it may be a propaganda piece designed for a mideast-oriented audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6nIndlsSo
Evang.Benincasa
11-23-2020, 05:12 AM
Is this Bill Gates (edit: clearly not him, somebody else) talking about vaccinating people against "religious fundamentalism"? Lot of controversy about this one, it may be a propaganda piece designed for a mideast-oriented audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6nIndlsSo
I think this might be David Bowie :heeheehee
jediwill83
11-23-2020, 08:37 AM
Is this Bill Gates (edit: clearly not him, somebody else) talking about vaccinating people against "religious fundamentalism"? Lot of controversy about this one, it may be a propaganda piece designed for a mideast-oriented audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6nIndlsSo
I remember this from a few years back!
Lemon
11-23-2020, 08:43 PM
Here is an article on some of the side effects of the vaccines.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/11/23/covid-vaccine-cdc-should-warn-people-the-side-effects-from-shots-wont-be-walk-in-the-park-.html
jediwill83
11-24-2020, 02:58 PM
Nope, you don’t believe his post, or..!?
Whole buncha nope that its not going in me or my families bodies.
Esaias
11-24-2020, 05:42 PM
Remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmpJbFEnUcs
Michael The Disciple
11-24-2020, 08:50 PM
Outrageous. So the answer Im sure is that we trust THEM to be the fact checkers. Censor (ban) the rest.
Jito463
11-25-2020, 06:33 AM
Remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmpJbFEnUcs
What is it that you think we should get from that video?
Nicodemus1968
11-25-2020, 06:44 AM
I remember this from a few years back!
There going to find a way to get that vaccine in you. It’s all apart of the BIG plan....
Remember MASK is one letter short of MARK.....
Cue creepy music....
Evang.Benincasa
11-25-2020, 08:11 AM
What is it that you think we should get from that video?
What did you think about the video?
Evang.Benincasa
11-25-2020, 08:13 AM
There going to find a way to get that vaccine in you. It’s all apart of the BIG plan....
Remember MASK is one letter short of MARK.....
Cue creepy music....
What’s the BIG plan?
It’s not a secret plan. Because everyone seems to know it.
So, what’s the BIG plan?
Jito463
11-25-2020, 09:04 AM
What did you think about the video?
Sounds like someone trying to make a big deal about a scripted promo. What else should I think about it?
Evang.Benincasa
11-25-2020, 09:59 AM
Sounds like someone trying to make a big deal about a scripted promo. What else should I think about it?
What were they all promoting?
Jito463
11-25-2020, 11:51 AM
What were they all promoting?
How about you stop with the twenty questions and just answer mine.
Esaias
11-25-2020, 03:14 PM
I don't know what to think about the anti-religion vax video. Some say it's a total farce and not real. But SOMEBODY spent some money to make it and put it out there.
The thing is, weird videos aside, injecting stuff into your body that starts messing with your DNA is not something I'd want to play around with. Especially considering the source, and the people promoting the thing.
Believing all is well really doesn't strike me as the smart thing to do.
Evang.Benincasa
11-25-2020, 06:51 PM
How about you stop with the twenty questions and just answer mine.
Answer your's? What else should you think about the video? Are you asking me to tell you what you should think about the video? Because that is what your question sounds like. Therefore I asked you to tell me what you think they are trying to promote?
Jito463
11-25-2020, 07:15 PM
Answer your's? What else should you think about the video? Are you asking me to tell you what you should think about the video? Because that is what your question sounds like. Therefore I asked you to tell me what you think they are trying to promote?
So I can't get a straight answer from you? Figures.
Evang.Benincasa
11-25-2020, 07:45 PM
So I can't get a straight answer from you? Figures.
Figures?
What does that mean?
Jito463
11-25-2020, 11:16 PM
Figures?
What does that mean?
It means I'm tired of playing this guessing game. You seem to want to elicit a certain response, or expect me to get a certain message out of it. I'm just asking you what you expect me to get from it. I already told you what I saw in it, just someone making too much out of a scripted promo. You haven't once answered my question. Either stop jerking me around or I'm done.
Evang.Benincasa
11-25-2020, 11:26 PM
It means I'm tired of playing this guessing game.
It's called having a discussion. No guessing game. I explained myself.
You seem to want to elicit a certain response, or expect me to get a certain message out of it.
No, because I asked you to clarify yourself, instead of me telling you what I think you think.
I'm just asking you what you expect me to get from it.
Which I replied "what are your thoughts?" What are they promoting since you stated it was a promo.
I already told you what I saw in it, just someone making too much out of a scripted promo.
Hence the reason why I asked you, what were they promoting?
You haven't once answered my question.
I did better, I explained myself to why I asked you a question?
Either stop jerking me around or I'm done.
Yes, you are done. Tough guy. :laffatu
good samaritan
11-28-2020, 10:16 PM
I couldnt answer the pole because there wasn't an option that fit my position. I may would take the covid vaccine, but it would be after a wait and see time period. Also I want to see how that it is gonna be implemented. Vaccinations should never be mandated. The left uses the phrase "it is a womans body" to excuse abortion. I would say that argument is valid for vaccinations.
Evang.Benincasa
11-28-2020, 10:57 PM
I couldnt answer the pole because there wasn't an option that fit my position. I may would take the covid vaccine, but it would be after a wait and see time period. Also I want to see how that it is gonna be implemented. Vaccinations should never be mandated. The left uses the phrase "it is a womans body" to excuse abortion. I would say that argument is valid for vaccinations.
Waiting to see the side effects?
Esaias
11-29-2020, 03:34 AM
I couldnt answer the pole because there wasn't an option that fit my position. I may would take the covid vaccine, but it would be after a wait and see time period. Also I want to see how that it is gonna be implemented. Vaccinations should never be mandated. The left uses the phrase "it is a womans body" to excuse abortion. I would say that argument is valid for vaccinations.
Option 2 "Yes, but I'll wait to see how it's working."
Esaias
11-29-2020, 05:09 AM
Study shows COVID-19 has not increased the death rate in the USA at all.
https://simplyamerica.net/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19/
good samaritan
11-29-2020, 08:26 AM
Waiting to see the side effects?
Yes, side effects and implementation process. If they try to mandate the vaccine that is a red flag. I personally don't have a problem with peoples option of taking the vaccine, but I am pro choice on the matter. I have heard some conspiracy theories about requiring vaccine ids in order to work, travel, etc.. I don't know how the mark of the beast will truly be implemented, but I want to take every percaution.
good samaritan
11-29-2020, 08:36 AM
Study shows COVID-19 has not increased the death rate in the USA at all.
https://simplyamerica.net/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19/
I recently was involved in a funeral service in our local communty. The funeral home employees said that they have had about 5 times the funeral services since this covid. The strange thing is that they said very few were actually covid related. Death toll is strangely high around here, but it isn't necessarily the covid. I personally believe that psychologically people are being made venerable to sickness. I have never seen so much hypocondria. I personally believe if you think enough that you are going to get sick, it may just cause you to become sick. If you simply live life and don't get caught up in the hysteria, I personally believe your odds are better. At the same time, we will go when God is ready.
Nicodemus1968
11-29-2020, 09:16 AM
Yes, side effects and implementation process. If they try to mandate the vaccine that is a red flag. I personally don't have a problem with peoples option of taking the vaccine, but I am pro choice on the matter. I have heard some conspiracy theories about requiring vaccine ids in order to work, travel, etc.. I don't know how the mark of the beast will truly be implemented, but I want to take every percaution.
Around here in Utah some have been given “essential workers” badges while they drive for work. I know in the trades (electrical, HVAC, Plumbing) they’re asking for us to consider the vaccine since we’re in and out of peoples homes quite often.
Scott Pitta
11-29-2020, 09:25 AM
Yes, I will take it. And why not ? It beats dying of a preventable disease.
A stitch in time saves nine.
jediwill83
11-29-2020, 01:40 PM
Study shows COVID-19 has not increased the death rate in the USA at all.
https://simplyamerica.net/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19/
Japan has more deaths by suicide than Covid.
Evang.Benincasa
11-29-2020, 02:32 PM
Yes, I will take it. And why not ? It beats dying of a preventable disease.
A stitch in time saves nine.
Scott, will you drink the water in Flint Michigan?
Evang.Benincasa
11-29-2020, 02:33 PM
Japan has more deaths by suicide than Covid.
It’s a suicide culture.
diakonos
11-30-2020, 04:50 AM
It’s a suicide culture.
Yep.
Jito463
12-01-2020, 05:57 PM
CNN finally admits that China lied about the C19 numbers. The funniest part is just after the 10 minute mark. Remember when people were getting mad about Trump calling it the "Wuhan virus"? Well, he has a pretty big collection of CNN talking heads calling it the "Wuhan virus".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RmiPEDE5t4
Evang.Benincasa
12-01-2020, 09:44 PM
https://www.uakron.edu/dotAsset/46ae78b3-9caf-46f4-9f25-32db74282b85.pdf
Esaias
12-01-2020, 09:53 PM
https://www.uakron.edu/dotAsset/46ae78b3-9caf-46f4-9f25-32db74282b85.pdf
Everybody gave up on sticking to the Constitution a long long time ago. Party of Lincoln, and all that. Now it's all just lip service.
The USSR had a Constitution, too.
Evang.Benincasa
12-01-2020, 10:26 PM
Everybody gave up on sticking to the Constitution a long long time ago. Party of Lincoln, and all that. Now it's all just lip service.
The USSR had a Constitution, too.
Constitutions are only as good as the people who follow them.
No self respecting oligarchy ever allowed a constitution to stand in their way.
It was the guys who got carried off to the detention center who believed that a constitutional rule was being broken. That in some way it was like a crucifix being held up before the vampire. The law of the land is the badge and the gun. It's like Sheriff Buford Pusser being asked if he had a warrant. In which he replied "yes, it's right here in my boot." then he kicked the door in and started breaking heads. When you come up on their radar, and they need to get your attention. They do it, and no piece of parchment is going to stand in their way.
Esaias
12-07-2020, 10:57 PM
What's in the COVID vaccine? The mRNA vaccine that takes over your genes?
https://www.twitter.com/wait_what_memes/status/1330931628097605639
Full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTtIPBPSv0U
james34
07-16-2021, 05:58 PM
Y’all haven’t been good enough, so the People who care about your health more than you will meet you at your front door.
Will you take the jab or get on their naughty list?
Evang.Benincasa
07-16-2021, 06:17 PM
Y’all haven’t been good enough, so the People who care about your health more than you will meet you at your front door.
Will you take the jab or get on their naughty list?
They are handing out literature, and if you would feel inclined they will have people available to vaccinate you. But haven't been informed if they are taking names.
Evang.Benincasa
07-16-2021, 06:23 PM
I just found out that a sister had changed churches because the church she used to be in got vaccinated. Vaccine a fellowship issue? I just think it is just a an isolated case. :hmmm
Jito463
07-16-2021, 09:21 PM
I just found out that a sister had changed churches because the church she used to be in got vaccinated. Vaccine a fellowship issue? I just think it is just a an isolated case. :hmmm
Maybe there was a personality conflict with those who did take it?
Evang.Benincasa
07-16-2021, 09:29 PM
Maybe there was a personality conflict with those who did take it?
That seems to be the case across the board. Here in Broward, Dade, and Palm Beach.
brotherjason
07-17-2021, 07:43 AM
Y’all haven’t been good enough, so the People who care about your health more than you will meet you at your front door.
Will you take the jab or get on their naughty list?
I'm curious to see how this plays out in the "Red States". I will not take it. They can raise my taxes, they can start wars and they can throw me in the pokey, I feel that falls under "render unto Ceasar", but it's "my body my choice" right?
Esaias
07-18-2021, 01:40 PM
Does anyone here see the significance of this tweet? Does anyone here even know who this guy is?
https://www.twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1416723981864947712
Esaias
07-18-2021, 01:48 PM
And remember:
"You need the vaxx to protect you from the Coof. If everybody gets vaxxed, there will be no more Coof. But if you get vaxxed, any unvaxxed person can spread the Coof and are a danger to you."
Translation: "The vaxx doesn't protect you or anybody from anything, we just need you to inject this stuff into your body so we can get PAID."
Esaias
07-18-2021, 01:52 PM
If vaccines work, then why would any vaxxed person worry about the unvaxxed? Y'all are SAFE, right? Isn't that what a vaccine is for?
"Oh it doesn't stop the spread, it just reduces your symptoms."
Like all those "asymptomatic corona cases" we kept hearing about last year?
Esaias
07-18-2021, 01:55 PM
I just found out that a sister had changed churches because the church she used to be in got vaccinated. Vaccine a fellowship issue? I just think it is just a an isolated case. :hmmm
Vaccination is pharmakeia, plain straight and simple. Poisoning with a heap big bucket of voodoo thrown in for good measure.
The sister is right.
Nicodemus1968
07-18-2021, 02:09 PM
Does anyone here see the significance of this tweet? Does anyone here even know who this guy is?
https://www.twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1416723981864947712
I listened to him on Glenn Becks radio show a couple weeks back. Very knowledgeable Doc.
Esaias
07-18-2021, 08:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_1zCsuDd4
Esaias
07-18-2021, 08:45 PM
The new increases in Coof variants/cases are simply the direct results of the genetic engineering experimental shot:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1415989536933490688.html
jediwill83
07-18-2021, 08:51 PM
The new increases in Coof variants/cases are simply the direct results of the genetic engineering experimental shot:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1415989536933490688.html
Am I vaccinated? Yes...."By HIS stripes you are healed."
Steven Avery
07-18-2021, 09:30 PM
Does anyone here see the significance of this tweet? Does anyone here even know who this guy is?
https://www.twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1416723981864947712 Yes. The tweet is the normal concern that pharma-$-thugs could act. Robert Malone is a bit unusual, with controversial claims that he actually started the mRNA "vaccine" stuff.
Some think Kary Mullis was subject to a hit in 2019, I really don't know, he was 75 with some unhealthy habits.
====================
Canadian Doctor: 62% of Patients Vaccinated for COVID Have Permanent Heart Damage
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/07/no_author/canadian-doctor-62-of-patients-vaccinated-for-covid-have-permanent-heart-damage/
And I am impressed with Charles Hoffe.
Please, if you have been jabbed, especially mRNA, resolve to learn about detox and health and no mas, please get off the jab-a-thon train.
====================
Debate Vaccines - a decent sub-reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/
You can build up a Twitter base of informed tweeters, even with the censorship active.
Facebook, a couple of groups are good, but they can always be Biden'd.
====================
james34
07-19-2021, 06:08 PM
Vaccination is pharmakeia, plain straight and simple. Poisoning with a heap big bucket of voodoo thrown in for good measure.
The sister is right.
Yep I agree , pharmakeia and that is kind of a justification for what is basically witchcraft.
Jito463
07-19-2021, 07:19 PM
Apparently the FBI is going after a local "vaccine" provider in California that wasn't actually providing vaccines, but was rather giving people small samples of C19 (effectively the same principle as a vaccine) and then providing them with vaccine cards which they could use to move about freely, since Commiefornia requires them in certain scenarios. Here's an interesting legal breakdown of the situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Dm8dW1ICY
diakonos
07-19-2021, 08:48 PM
Yep I agree , pharmakeia and that is kind of a justification for what is basically witchcraft.
Do you not take any meds whatsoever?
Esaias
07-19-2021, 10:19 PM
Do you not take any meds whatsoever?
Vaccines aren't medicine. There is a difference between medicine and poison marketed by superstition.
votivesoul
07-21-2021, 08:49 AM
Who is subsidizing all these free vaccines?
Virtually everywhere I go, the covid 19 vaxx is free to the recipient.
Even a local grocery chain which has only like four stores in the state, and nowhere else, started offering the shot at no cost to the customer.
I know these places are not eating the cost, so, who is? Is it the US government? The Pharma folks aren't doing this for free.
Evang.Benincasa
07-21-2021, 11:46 AM
Who is subsidizing all these free vaccines?
Virtually everywhere I go, the covid 19 vaxx is free to the recipient.
Even a local grocery chain which has only like four stores in the state, and nowhere else, started offering the shot at no cost to the customer.
I know these places are not eating the cost, so, who is? Is it the US government? The Pharma folks aren't doing this for free.
In history, when a government guns down their people, who pays for the bullets?
Evang.Benincasa
07-26-2021, 11:14 PM
11 people voted no they absolutely will not be taking Bill Gates' vaccine. (Even if it's made in Israel and already just about ready to go?)
Nobody has said they will or even might take it.
THAT'S some good news.
Now just stay away from the 5G and "WIGIG" 5G home routers etc.
I wonder how the voters are doing now?
james34
07-27-2021, 09:47 PM
Do you not take any meds whatsoever?
None whatsoever, but I don’t think it is sin ( although I am open to the suggestion that it might be)
My position is it might be sin if it’s not of faith.
I preached on faith a few weeks back , and I said Going to the doctors and faith are two different things. I don’t believe the gifts of healing are through the medical/health industry, but rather in the body of Christ. If God is using the doctors , then don’t call for the elders of the church, let God use the doctors.
I have taken a couple of ibuprofen for headaches or sore throat about once a year. But I tend to think it’s a weakness in faith.
When I go to a dentist , I take medicine. But I don’t confuse the mind by saying God gave me doctors and therefore it’s faith, nope it’s leaning on the arm of flesh.
I’m concerned faith is used so little that most professed Christians won’t have enough to endure any kind of hardness.
Esaias
10-21-2021, 10:02 PM
I wonder if anyone who voted "Absolutely not" had a change of heart and got their experimental gene therapy provided by our kind loving and totally trustworthy Big Brother?
Jito463
10-21-2021, 11:03 PM
I wonder if anyone who voted "Absolutely not" had a change of heart and got their experimental gene therapy provided by our kind loving and totally trustworthy Big Brother?
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can unequivocally say that I have not and will not get it. Natural immunity trumps weak faux immunity any day.
diakonos
10-22-2021, 04:53 AM
I wonder if anyone who voted "Absolutely not" had a change of heart and got their experimental gene therapy provided by our kind loving and totally trustworthy Big Brother?
Half vaxed. :foottap
:lol
Scott Pitta
10-22-2021, 06:24 AM
3 of my friend felt they did not need the shot. Now they are at the hospital on ventilators. Other friends died of covid. I wonder how many more of my friends will not survive this pandemic ?
Get the shot. Medicine does good like a merry heart.
All the harsh rhetoric cannot bring my friends back from the dead.
Evang.Benincasa
10-22-2021, 06:45 AM
3 of my friend felt they did not need the shot. Now they are at the hospital on ventilators. Other friends died of covid. I wonder how many more of my friends will not survive this pandemic ?
Get the shot. Medicine does good like a merry heart.
All the harsh rhetoric cannot bring my friends back from the dead.
Scott, how much kick back do you get from Pizer? Scott, your "friends" didn't die from COVID. Your "friends" died from complications which were brought on by their weakened immune systems. Their immunity or lack of it, was already failing before they got COVID. Also medicine that does good like a merry heart wasn't an administering of a portion of a virus being given to a patient in Bible times. The English word "medication" which is used in Proverbs 17:22 actually is the word "cure" not medication, as pharmaceuticals as we know today. Healing cures were herbal, and came in the form as drink, and food. But you wouldn't know that, because you don't care about using the Bible correctly and in its context.
Scott, should someone get a vaccine if they had already contracted COVID and now have the antibodies? As far as science and medicine the answer is a resounding no. But what do YOU say?
Tithesmeister
10-22-2021, 07:07 AM
3 of my friend felt they did not need the shot. Now they are at the hospital on ventilators. Other friends died of covid. I wonder how many more of my friends will not survive this pandemic ?
Get the shot. Medicine does good like a merry heart.
All the harsh rhetoric cannot bring my friends back from the dead.
I realize that this is not a direct quote. But you are obviously referencing Proverbs 17:22, except you got it backwards.
Proverbs 17:22
King James Version
22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.
Or as Readers Digest put it “Laughter, The Best Medicine“.
Evang.Benincasa
10-22-2021, 07:11 AM
I realize that this is not a direct quote. But you are obviously referencing Proverbs 17:22, except you got it backwards.
Proverbs 17:22
King James Version
22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.
Or as Readers Digest put it “Laughter, The Best Medicine“.
A merry heart doeth good like a vaccine from Johnson & Johnson: but a broken spirit drieth the bones. ~Scott Pitta Version
diakonos
10-22-2021, 02:40 PM
My grandmother will be 89 years old in February. She has not got COVID, that we know. My ain’t is visiting her and came down with covid 1 week into her trip.
Only a fool will take the vaccine ....
diakonos
10-22-2021, 04:12 PM
Only a fool will take the vaccine ....
Thanks.
Evang.Benincasa
10-22-2021, 05:27 PM
Thanks.
He doesn't mean you. :thumbsup
diakonos
10-22-2021, 05:32 PM
He doesn't mean you. :thumbsup
Maybe he does
Evang.Benincasa
10-22-2021, 07:49 PM
Maybe he does
No he doesn't.
diakonos
10-22-2021, 08:19 PM
No he doesn't.
He sent me a text. He was indeed talking about me.
Jito463
10-22-2021, 10:15 PM
3 of my friend felt they did not need the shot. Now they are at the hospital on ventilators.Now, how many more of your friends got it and survived? How many didn't even know they got it in the first place? I had it and got through it just fine. Never even went to the hospital, much less got ventilated....or is that went on a ventilator? I get those two confused so easily.
Other friends died of covid. I wonder how many more of my friends will not survive this pandemic?Do you think your friends should have the choice whether to get the jab or not? Do you believe you should tie them down and jab the J&J into their veins? Or maybe use a blow dart, like the FDA guy suggested?
You know, I had three good friends die over the past year, Pat, Connie and Anthony, yet not a single one of them died from C19. Not. A. Single. One. Every one of them died of cancer. Do you have a vaccine for cancer? No? Well, I guess we just trust and believe in God then, and let Him work it out. Just like I do with the "pandemic".
Get the shot. Medicine does good like a merry heart.That's a negative, Ghost Rider.
All the harsh rhetoric cannot bring my friends back from the dead.And all the petty threats from goobermint can't make me change my mind. Yet the more they push for the jab, the more people will and are resisting. This country was founded on the principle of resisting tyranny. There will always be those like yourself who succumb to it, but there will be many more of us who refuse to concede and bow the knee to an earthly king.
I'm not telling you not to get the jab. If you feel your life is so fragile that an unproven vax, designed in record time from an unproven mRNA tech, is what you need to survive, then you go right ahead. I'm not judging you, just being straight with you. As for me, I'll trust in God and the immune system he gave my body.
Thanks.
C, I was not meaning you directly, actually it was pointed to Scott !
Forgot that you had been vaccinated.
But.... now that we are on the subject....
:heeheehee
diakonos
10-23-2021, 12:30 PM
C, I was not meaning you directly, actually it was pointed to Scott !
Forgot that you had been vaccinated.
But.... now that we are on the subject....
:heeheehee
:lol
Evang.Benincasa
10-23-2021, 04:00 PM
:lol
I told you :foottap
diakonos
10-23-2021, 08:36 PM
I told you :foottap
I was trolling.
(Probably already been talked over again and again…)
But our military people are having to choose, take it or walk. Ridiculous to say the very least.
Many have served for a long time, and losing their retirement if they don’t take the vaccine.
Difficult situation to be in.
For example one mentioned it in men’s prayer yesterday morning, unsure of what to do. He’s been in for probably 20-25 I’d say.
I think around 500,000 out of all of our military, give or take, have refused.
Esaias
10-24-2021, 08:27 AM
(Probably already been talked over again and again…)
But our military people are having to choose, take it or walk. Ridiculous to say the very least.
Many have served for a long time, and losing their retirement if they don’t take the vaccine.
Difficult situation to be in.
For example one mentioned it in men’s prayer yesterday morning, unsure of what to do. He’s been in for probably 20-25 I’d say.
I think around 500,000 out of all of our military, give or take, have refused.
I thought if Uncle Sam wanted his boys to have a choice, it would have been issued to them back in Basic or something?
Jito463
10-24-2021, 11:57 AM
(Probably already been talked over again and again…)
But our military people are having to choose, take it or walk. Ridiculous to say the very least.
Many have served for a long time, and losing their retirement if they don’t take the vaccine.
Difficult situation to be in.
For example one mentioned it in men’s prayer yesterday morning, unsure of what to do. He’s been in for probably 20-25 I’d say.
I think around 500,000 out of all of our military, give or take, have refused.
Lori Light-in-the-head in Chicago has threatened to withhold some retirement benefits for those who choose early retirement over taking the jab.
Meanwhile, surrounding Sherriff departments have refused her calls to provide additional manpower for the city.
It's either stupidity personified, or it's intentionally meant to drive the uncooperative out.
Esaias
10-24-2021, 12:38 PM
Bill Gates wants to use those GMO mosquitos to deliver vaccines: https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/03/10/bill-gates-wants-to-deploy-genetically-modified-mosquitoes-to-inject-vaccines/
mizpeh
10-25-2021, 02:58 PM
I already did back in December 2020 and January 2021, waiting to take the booster.
Evang.Benincasa
10-25-2021, 04:13 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NJ1bnDa9EwBR/
I already did back in December 2020 and January 2021, waiting to take the booster.
My 90 yr. old mum and I had the 1st in March and the 2nd in April, and are getting the booster soon.
I got my Johnson & Johnson Covid Vaccine last March 11th then today, 4/25/21, got the J&J booster shot. While I could still get a breakthrough case of Covid the chance of me being hospitalized or dying from it is greatly reduced with the vaccine so I am thankful to God for the brilliant minds who developed these vaccines.
Evang.Benincasa
10-25-2021, 09:37 PM
I still have yet to get the "virus" same goes for my family. While I could still get a case of COVID, the chance of me being hospitalized or dying from it is greatly reduced with my natural immune system.
Esaias
10-26-2021, 12:45 AM
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/fully-vaccinated-are-suffering-far-higher-rates-of-infection-than-the-unvaccinated-and-it-is-getting-worse/
Esaias
10-26-2021, 12:49 AM
"Brilliant minds" indeed:
https://www.altheal.org/toxicity/house.htm
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NJ1bnDa9EwBR/
Wow
Thanks for sharing that
Amanah
10-26-2021, 12:57 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NJ1bnDa9EwBR/
Fact checking:
https://www.science.org/content/article/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
Esaias
10-26-2021, 02:36 PM
Fact checking:
https://www.science.org/content/article/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
We've seen how the "fact checkers" simply regurgitate the standard party line. I have no opinion on Dr Mikovits. But I find it interesting that any expert, doctor, viroligist, scientist etc who disagrees with globalist anti-freedom policies is de facto classed as a fringe kook by those same policy supporters. Makes my default position to be "if the known proven liars are all for something, then the rational position is to be against it."
The article says her videos were taken down by social media "because of numerous inaccuracies." That's a laugh. So they acknowledge a coordinated censorship campaign to limit free speech that goes against the party line. This is LITERALLY like Pravda "fact checking" Solzhenitsyn. Why didn't they fact check the media reports using mannequins and proven actors to push a false medical narrative?
Doesn't matter though. Pretty much everybody is on one side or the other, and aren't budging no matter what. So the fact checkers are just repeating themselves in their shrinking echo chamber. And will keep doing so until the Nuremberg 2.0 trials commence.
Even on Judgment Day there will be "gnashing of teeth", which is a Biblical phrase meaning cursing and castigating. So even then, people will still try persisting in their lies. Humanity is basically stupid.
coksiw
10-26-2021, 02:48 PM
Fact checking:
https://www.science.org/content/article/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
There are some good information there to consider, however, this part of the fact check is incorrect:
Scientific estimates suggest the closest virus to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is a bat coronavirus identified by the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Its "distance" in evolutionary time to SARS-CoV-2 is about 20 to 80 years. There is no evidence this bat virus was manipulated.
The truth (from the WSJ, moderate right, even left at times):
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184
The Science Suggests a Wuhan Lab Leak
The Covid-19 pathogen has a genetic footprint that has never been observed in a natural coronavirus.
(click on the listen to audio to see more information than what you can see behind the paywall)
You can't trust the "there is no evidence" phrases nowadays.
Amanah
10-26-2021, 02:52 PM
There are some good information there to consider, however, this part of the fact check is incorrect:
Scientific estimates suggest the closest virus to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is a bat coronavirus identified by the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Its "distance" in evolutionary time to SARS-CoV-2 is about 20 to 80 years. There is no evidence this bat virus was manipulated.
The truth:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184
The Science Suggests a Wuhan Lab Leak
The Covid-19 pathogen has a genetic footprint that has never been observed in a natural coronavirus.
(click on the listen to audio to see more information than what you can see behind the paywall)
You can't trust the "there is no evidence" phrases nowadays.
I agree. I'm looking at various narratives skeptically at this point.
coksiw
10-26-2021, 03:16 PM
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Even on Judgment Day there will be "gnashing of teeth", which is a Biblical phrase meaning cursing and castigating. So even then, people will still try persisting in their lies. Humanity is basically stupid.
That's a good insight I didn't know about. I had that one wrong. I thought it was an expression of suffering from pain or something.
Holman Bible Dictionary:
Grating one's teeth together. In the Old Testament, gnashing of teeth was an expression of anger reserved for the wicked and for one's enemies (Job 16:9; Psalm 35:16; Psalm 37:12; Lamentations 2:16 ). In the New Testament, gnashing of teeth is associated with the place of future punishment (for example, Matthew 8:12; Matthew 13:42 ,Matthew 13:42,13:50 ). There the gnashing of teeth is perhaps an expression of the futility of the wicked before God's judgment or else a demonstration of their continuing refusal to repent and acknowledge the justness of God's judgment. (Compare Revelation 16:9 , Revelation 16:11 .) See Hell; Punishment, Everlasting.
:thumbsup
Evang.Benincasa
10-26-2021, 03:22 PM
We've seen how the "fact checkers" simply regurgitate the standard party line. I have no opinion on Dr Mikovits. But I find it interesting that any expert, doctor, viroligist, scientist etc who disagrees with globalist anti-freedom policies is de facto classed as a fringe kook by those same policy supporters. Makes my default position to be "if the known proven liars are all for something, then the rational position is to be against it."
The article says her videos were taken down by social media "because of numerous inaccuracies." That's a laugh. So they acknowledge a coordinated censorship campaign to limit free speech that goes against the party line. This is LITERALLY like Pravda "fact checking" Solzhenitsyn. Why didn't they fact check the media reports using mannequins and proven actors to push a false medical narrative?
Doesn't matter though. Pretty much everybody is on one side or the other, and aren't budging no matter what. So the fact checkers are just repeating themselves in their shrinking echo chamber. And will keep doing so until the Nuremberg 2.0 trials commence.
Even on Judgment Day there will be "gnashing of teeth", which is a Biblical phrase meaning cursing and castigating. So even then, people will still try persisting in their lies. Humanity is basically stupid.
Fauci and Mikovits are not friends, and everyone who was following the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the 1980s in New York heard these two names. Also before I ever watched the video of Dr. Mikovits I read all the mud slinging first. It's like this, if an entire media program can be launched against Joe Rogan and Dave Chappell, both comedians, you know the agenda is geared to shut you up. When NATURAL IMMUNITY is demonized or as Fauci put it, when asked by Sanja Gupta, "its something to look into." You know something is rotten in Denmark. Anyone who doesn't parrot the taking points of the PRO COVID VACCINE alliance, are ground to powder. This country is getting exactly what it deserves, because it is chuck full of Christ haters. Most of them are parked on pews, and perched in pulpits. The enemies of this country are looking at us like hungry dogs looking at fresh red meat. Everyone has to do their own research. I'll put things out there for the remnant. Because the remnant already know what side is up, and they know the indicators, how to dodge the bullets. Because they aren't guided by personal feelings, or the madding crowd. They hear the still small voice. The voice which had led men throughout history. I use to have a bumper sticker on all my vehicles "Kill your Television." It's not about moving pictures, it's not about video, the killing of the television is the killing the voices, the theatrics, the manipulation, propaganda, that the media puts forward into the minds of men. I saw it happen. When the pandemic became cool in the United States. The Donald did WARP SPEED and became the father of the vaccine. Then Sleepy Joe took it to a new level. The Christians in the United States followed in lock step, through lock downs, church closers, live stream puppet shows and Sunday morning breakfast in bed. Mid week services while you are seated in the bathroom with your lap top. From Brush Arbor to Comatose for Jesus. Why? Because Pentecost believed the media, believed the politics and the doctors. Well, it was all down hill from there. Thank you for the post Brother Esaias :thumbsup
Evang.Benincasa
10-26-2021, 03:36 PM
Fact checking:
https://www.science.org/content/article/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
They also said that there wasn't a lab leak from Wuhan China. Dr Fauci was America's Hero. Soon to be America's Zero. :heeheehee
Thank you for the input Sister :thumbsup
mizpeh
10-26-2021, 05:09 PM
My 90 yr. old mum and I had the 1st in March and the 2nd in April, and are getting the booster soon.
:thumbsup
Evang.Benincasa
10-28-2021, 06:52 AM
Austrian MP Eva Holzleitner collapses in the middle of a parliamentary session. She announced on Instagram that she had been vaccinated, stating that "vaccine skepticism is unfounded". Ladies and Gentlemen, vaccines are saf.....
https://gloria.tv/post/txMnDUFqtjWv2eY4d4v44Wakf
Yep, this is sure what I want. :lol
Evang.Benincasa
10-28-2021, 08:35 AM
Looks like the Amish, void of the Holy Ghost, who believe God speaks German, out did the Pentecostals in the "No Fear" department. Good God in ZION!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ9eQEW7VOU&ab_channel=CharlieKirk
coksiw
10-28-2021, 11:22 AM
Looks like the Amish, void of the Holy Ghost, who believe God speaks German, out did the Pentecostals in the "No Fear" department. Good God in ZION!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ9eQEW7VOU&ab_channel=CharlieKirk
That's what basically happened in my church. It only took one party, in the middle of high covid cases in Arizona, with lots of families involved, to have one half of the church get it simultaneously. Around 100 people. The other half has been getting it since then, here and there. Now the entire church has herd immunity. We had two elders died. One of them was very close to me and my family. That was tough.
Tithesmeister
10-28-2021, 12:24 PM
Looks like the Amish, void of the Holy Ghost, who believe God speaks German, out did the Pentecostals in the "No Fear" department. Good God in ZION!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ9eQEW7VOU&ab_channel=CharlieKirk
I watched this video about a week ago. This makes perfect sense to me.
Esaias
10-28-2021, 12:31 PM
They also don't stay glued to the boob tube, so the "pandemic" basically passed them by (except for pesky news reporters trying to poke around).
Evang.Benincasa
10-28-2021, 02:17 PM
They also don't stay glued to the boob tube, so the "pandemic" basically passed them by (except for pesky news reporters trying to poke around).
https://img.ifunny.co/images/2e9e202f8d0841710a77167fd3b004a233ccb4e10b861a203c baf7b61725c1ab_1.jpg
Jito463
10-29-2021, 10:50 AM
Waterford city in Ireland has a massive 99.7% vaccination rate (classified as fully vaccinated even) among adults 18 and over, yet is now experiencing the worst rate of C19 infections per 100k in Ireland, at over 3 times the national average.
But don't forget to get the jab!
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/waterford-city-district-has-state-s-highest-rate-of-covid-19-infections-1.4707344
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-irish-county-with-99-7-vaccination-rate-has-highest-covid-case-rate
Evang.Benincasa
10-29-2021, 02:58 PM
Waterford city in Ireland has a massive 99.7% vaccination rate (classified as fully vaccinated even) among adults 18 and over, yet is now experiencing the worst rate of C19 infections per 100k in Ireland, at over 3 times the national average.
But don't forget to get the jab!
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/waterford-city-district-has-state-s-highest-rate-of-covid-19-infections-1.4707344
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-irish-county-with-99-7-vaccination-rate-has-highest-covid-case-rate
But we are called "ignorant."
Right on.
Evang.Benincasa
10-29-2021, 10:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhGaqxiEprA&ab_channel=MillerTimeMusic
Jito463
10-30-2021, 02:18 PM
So, a new study was done and shows 91% effectiveness in children ages 5-11! Huzzah! Oh, wait. How did they come to that conclusion? Well, let's see.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/22/pfizer-says-covid-vaccine-more-than-90percent-effective-in-kids-.html
A Pfizer study tracked 2,268 kids in that age group who got two shots three weeks apart of either a placebo or the low-dose vaccine. Each dose was one-third the amount given to teens and adults.Okay, that seems like a pretty decently sized study group. What was their methodology for determining the results?
Researchers calculated the low-dose vaccine was nearly 91% effective, based on 16 Covid-19 cases in youngsters given dummy shots versus three cases among vaccinated children.Wait, so only 19 kids were used to determine the 91% effectiveness? What about the other 2,249? Nothing? Huh, that's interesting.
There were no severe illnesses reported among any of the youngsters but the vaccinated ones had much milder symptoms than their unvaccinated counterparts.Wait, so no severe illnesses among any of the children, yet we're told we have to vaccinate them for their safety? Heck, why not vaccinate newborns?
Pfizer and Moderna are studying even younger children as well, down to 6-month-olds. Results are expected later in the year.Oops, they want to do that, too.
Amanah
10-31-2021, 12:25 AM
Natural immunity vs vaccines
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/immune-system-and-health#
Jito463
10-31-2021, 06:34 AM
Natural immunity vs vaccines
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/immune-system-and-health#
That link discusses the standard vaccine, which relies on giving you a small dose of the particular virus it's meant to protect you against. This vaccine operates differently, in that instead it tries to reprogram your system.
Vaccinated with the J&J shot last March 11th and about a week ago got my J&J booster shot. Thankful to God that he has given doctors and scientists the knowledge to develop these vaccines to protect people against hospitalization and death to a large part.
Vaccinated with the J&J shot last March 11th and about a week ago got my J&J booster shot. Thankful to God that he has given doctors and scientists the knowledge to develop these vaccines to protect people against hospitalization and death to a large part.
Do you support the national mandate of the vaccine within our military, hospitals, schools etc that they are doing, or rather “pro-choice” of it?
Evang.Benincasa
10-31-2021, 06:41 PM
Vaccinated with the J&J shot last March 11th and about a week ago got my J&J booster shot. Thankful to God that he has given doctors and scientists the knowledge to develop these vaccines to protect people against hospitalization and death to a large part.
Since the age of 11, I've been working out with weights and about a week ago started working out with a 80 pound fat bar. Thankful to God that he had given me parents who respected health with exercise and people who are Apostolic with the knowledge to develop health and physical fitness in their own lives. Which protect them against hospitalization and death to a large part.
:thumbsup
Evang.Benincasa
10-31-2021, 07:52 PM
It is sad, and by next year we may have posts of people proclaiming they just had their fifth booster shot. I still haven't gotten the virus, my wife hasn't gotten the virus. But invoking God with thanks concerning He has given doctors and scientists the knowledge to develop these vaccines to protect people against hospitalization and death to a large part. Is horrifying. Why? Because these are "Christians" who say these things. But to their defense, they say these things because of the media which they are heavily influenced by. They are pretty much clueless when it comes to biology, let alone virology. If we would have checked their health before anyone even knew COVID 19, we would find that they are among the people who are most vulnerable. So, I understand why they post that they are vaccinated and will get as many boosters as they are allowed. Look, these brothers lean more towards the medical solution when it comes to health. Next time you have a "Christian" tell you that they are pleased as punch that they have been jabbed twice and are chafing at the bit to get a booster. Ask them how many different meds they are on? Meds which they had way prior to this virus. You know COVID 19 isn't our first pandemic in recent history. But the Pentecostal Vaccinenites who give the CDC sainthood, aren't following THE SCIENCE, but the MEDIA. It doesn't make them bad people, just scared people.
Amanah
10-31-2021, 11:09 PM
I believe in prayer, faith, and healing. I have seen and even experienced miraculous healing.
For myself, I eat healthy, run 3 miles three times a week, do strength training, ect. I believe natural immunity is superior to vaccination. But, I have loved ones with serious health problems who for them CV19 might be a death sentence.
I think saying the vaccine is the "Mark" is ridiculous. But, I believe there is something nefarious about the origin of this virus and how it is being used to control people and destroy our economy.
About the vaccine, I think it may be a legitimate way to save lives for those over 65 with health issues, particularly those who may die rather than achieve natural immunity.
I'm skeptical about some of the conspiracy theory surrounding vaccinations. I believe vaccinations have their place.
These are my thoughts. I don't care to elaborate or debate. I respect other viewpoints, even ones that I don't currently share. I'm still at the point of trying to gain understanding.
Esaias
11-01-2021, 02:32 AM
Vaccinated with the J&J shot last March 11th and about a week ago got my J&J booster shot. Thankful to God that he has given doctors and scientists the knowledge to develop these vaccines to protect people against hospitalization and death to a large part.
The doctors and scientists are saying the vaccine doesn't protect people against hospitalization and death. Quite the opposite. It's the boob tube pharma salespeople saying it works great and you need a lifetime annual subscription service to their latest products to stay alive. Oh and they also say your vaccine shots and boosters don't work unless *I* get them all, too.
Funny bout that...
Esaias
11-01-2021, 02:43 AM
CC1 won't watch this video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/f5h6fNebapNu/
Jito463
11-01-2021, 06:39 AM
About the vaccine, I think it may be a legitimate way to save lives for those over 65 with health issues, particularly those who may die rather than achieve natural immunity.I don't begrudge anyone who's older or has existing health issues that chooses to get the jab, I do question anyone who's healthy that does it, though.
I'm skeptical about some of the conspiracy theory surrounding vaccinations. I believe vaccinations have their place.Even though I don't get vaccinations personally (e.g. the flu vaccine), I've never questioned their use before now, because the government has never tried forcing it on people before now. Any time the government is gung-ho about making you get something - particularly something that's injected into our bodies - it behooves us to step back and question what their motivations are.
Evang.Benincasa
11-01-2021, 08:53 AM
This person actually believes that her own country would turn on its own people? That what is happening right now is some sort of precursor to a totalitarian regime. Come on, it can't happen here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zk5uDYIyDU&ab_channel=ThePatriotNurse
Evang.Benincasa
11-01-2021, 09:20 AM
Vaccinated with the J&J shot last March 11th and about a week ago got my J&J booster shot. Thankful to God that he has given doctors and scientists the knowledge to develop these vaccines to protect people against hospitalization and death to a large part.
Here is a 39 year old woman who got the J&J vaccination, but she didn't make out as well as you. You see it isn't only about vaccine, but it is about how the vaccine is administered. Which is how they inject the vaccine into a muscle, not a vein. History and God will judge us all on what we advocated during this portion of time. This virus was created through Gain of Function research. Therefore it doesn't only create a plethora of variants, but gets stronger with each variant. That is virology, yet a virology of making animal virus more contagious, and transmittable to humans. Now, the vaccine was rushed. Any virologist will tell you that vaccines take at least five years to be used on the public. We also have history of medications which passed FDA regulation ended up killing and maiming people then were taken off the shelves. That's the facts, but you have no complications from the shot CC1? Bravo, time proves all things. You are such a rebel, a member of this forum (and others) raging against the machine (Old Time Pentecost) only to be swallowed up by a much more bigger cult, the Umbrella Corporation and its ministers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67outE0pTZg&ab_channel=Zaywakeup222G
Jito463
11-01-2021, 09:30 AM
Now, the vaccine was rushed. Any virologist will tell you that vaccines take at least five years to be used on the public.Not to mention that EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) is only supposed to occur when no other remedy is available, yet many people have anecdotally reported using medicines like Ivermectin (a.k.a. the "horse paste") to treat their symptoms. However, this data was suppressed by the media, the medical establishment and the government. :hmmm
Evang.Benincasa
11-01-2021, 09:41 AM
Not to mention that EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) is only supposed to occur when no other remedy is available, yet many people have anecdotally reported using medicines like Ivermectin (a.k.a. the "horse paste") to treat their symptoms. However, this data was suppressed by the media, the medical establishment and the government. :hmmm
This is a good point. Because that is how it was initially set up. The arguments that many virologists, nurses, MDs, and other biologists are now saying, is that where was the pre-care? People would go to the hospitals and there was nothing as far as pre-care. This made light bulbs go on. Yet, the vaccine was the main focus and Anthony Fauci let us know this through all his flip flopping. He is quoted as saying he didn't believe there would ever be a mandate to vaccinate all of humanity. But since Ivermectin is made by everyone and their mother, and is cheap. That natural immunity and a healthy lifestyle doesn't make as much money as hospitals and vaccines. The vaccine was made the golden bullet and every single human on the planet must take it. Big Pharma wins!!!
Amanah
11-01-2021, 02:03 PM
CC1 won't watch this video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/f5h6fNebapNu/
Thanks Esaias! Dr Peter McCullough seems credible. His assessment that the vaccine has failed in that it isn't reliably effective against delta and other variants seems correct. That along with the myocarditis and other serious side makes the vaccine questionable in a risk/benefit analysis.
The doctors and scientists are saying the vaccine doesn't protect people against hospitalization and death. Quite the opposite. It's the boob tube pharma salespeople saying it works great and you need a lifetime annual subscription service to their latest products to stay alive. Oh and they also say your vaccine shots and boosters don't work unless *I* get them all, too.
Funny bout that...
By "the doctors" I assume you mean the very few outlier doctors not the vast majority who affirm that the vaccines do greatly reduce hospializations and deaths from Covid19. I am sure you think there is some kind of giant conspiracy that all of the hospitals, doctors, scientists, etc are all a part of and lying when they report this data. I am sure lifting weights is going to protect you from Covid19 so looks like you have nothing to worry about.
Evang.Benincasa
11-07-2021, 12:21 AM
By "the doctors" I assume you mean the very few outlier doctors not the vast majority who affirm that the vaccines do greatly reduce hospializations and deaths from Covid19. I am sure you think there is some kind of giant conspiracy that all of the hospitals, doctors, scientists, etc are all a part of and lying when they report this data. I am sure lifting weights is going to protect you from Covid19 so looks like you have nothing to worry about.
CC1, what are you talking about? Don't assume, just try to strengthen your argument.
Few outlier doctors? Vast majority? Great conspiracy, overwhelming data? People lying? etc, etc, etc? It's like this, when we respond to a post, we should have something, at the very least substantial to refute the post we believe is falsehood. Esaias brought forth information, you respond with talking points from MSNBC, and a dash of CNN? The vaccine is primarily for people like you, who are at risk. Poor health, and the elderly. Not people with strong immunities, or have the antibodies, young children, teenagers, and healthy adults. They don't need the vaccines. Listen, COVID 19 will not be going away, everyone alive will sooner or later get it, if they haven't already.
Do you know anything about monoclonal antibodies? CDC advise that was the way to treat the virus in 2020. Did you hear about it on Jimmy Kimmel? Did Don Lemon care to mention it? No, because if you'd stop clutching your pearls for a moment, you would realize just south of you in the Sunshine state that Florida is leading the nation. On how to combat the situation with science. You know the stuff you were taught in High School biology? But you were too occupied over how your church wouldn't let you play Monopoly with real dice. :heeheehee
So, Doctors? How about scientists, who have been beating the drum from Israel to Sweden, that those who have contracted the virus, now have an immune system which is stronger than any vaccine to fight off variants. Are these scientists "outliers?" Are they some sort of weird conspiracy loons from the internet? No, and if you were following this issue, instead of being intellectually lazy. You would know what I'm saying.
Oh, and lifting weights? Maybe if you exercised, and did a little weight training yourself. You wouldn't of had to ditch the Goldwing because it got to heavy for you. Listen brother, don't make fun of people who are physically fit. Your distain proves that the only hard exercise you tackle, is getting on and off the toilet in the morning.
Hey, I love you, really I do. I wouldn't take the time to eagerly reply to your posts If I didn't :heart
Esaias
11-07-2021, 03:43 AM
By "the doctors" I assume you mean the very few outlier doctors not the vast majority who affirm that the vaccines do greatly reduce hospializations and deaths from Covid19. I am sure you think there is some kind of giant conspiracy that all of the hospitals, doctors, scientists, etc are all a part of and lying when they report this data. I am sure lifting weights is going to protect you from Covid19 so looks like you have nothing to worry about.
Obviously you didn't watch the video. As expected.
Evang.Benincasa
11-07-2021, 06:51 AM
Obviously you didn't watch the video. As expected.
To quote a quote CC1 has for his signature;
"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice."
I think this really sums it up well for CC1, and others who are caught in the stranglehold of fear of the COVID 19 pandemic. Their main source of information wasn't what they were taught in school. Basic biology class gave enough tools to figure out even the basics in virology. But, like church, they found things to discount. Even felt certain items could be discarded, or forgotten. Also he and some others have skin in the game, because they were vaccinated. It boils down to the mantra of, us vs them. He for one understands that lens well. Old Time Pennycost vs Barefoot Pastor On The Platform. He is free, and we are conspiracists, end of conversation. No need for him to watch a video, read an article, review a paper by Israeli scientists.
No, he's good, and therefore is secure to spout the basic "VACCINATE THE PLANET" το τέλος.
Evang.Benincasa
11-07-2021, 03:12 PM
By "the doctors" I assume you mean the very few outlier doctors not the vast majority who affirm that the vaccines do greatly reduce hospializations and deaths from Covid19. I am sure you think there is some kind of giant conspiracy that all of the hospitals, doctors, scientists, etc are all a part of and lying when they report this data. I am sure lifting weights is going to protect you from Covid19 so looks like you have nothing to worry about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa9ZfmuWSR4&ab_channel=bloomfieldpres
coksiw
11-07-2021, 05:17 PM
CC1 won't watch this video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/f5h6fNebapNu/
Good. :thumbsup
Jito463
11-07-2021, 07:35 PM
The Director of the CDC won't say how many employees are currently vaccinated. :hmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QabAtYBnqro
Evang.Benincasa
11-08-2021, 04:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almHc5TWVJU&ab_channel=TheObamaWhiteHouse
Esaias
11-08-2021, 06:25 AM
Look at this raving tinfoil hat wearing lunatic! Does he even lift?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvM5meOXk9o
Evang.Benincasa
11-08-2021, 08:19 AM
Look at this raving tinfoil hat wearing lunatic! Does he even lift?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvM5meOXk9o
Well, wasn't that a bit of logic. But the CC1s, Mizpehs, a Scott Pittas of the world would rather do this ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te_xIzQE0hc&ab_channel=504Cut
Jito463
11-08-2021, 12:53 PM
Well, wasn't that a bit of logic. But the CC1s, Mizpehs, a Scott Pittas of the world would rather do this ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te_xIzQE0hc&ab_channel=504Cut
Ahahahaha, that was awesome. Props to the pilot and the stewardess for their professionalism and refusal to back down.
Jito463
11-08-2021, 07:42 PM
The British Medical Journal - so not just some random rag (like the New York Times) - has come out with information from a whistleblower showing that Pfizer's testing sites falsified C19 vaccine testing data. On top of that, Pfizer themselves were informed of the issue and failed to address it, leading to the whistleblower contacting the FDA, which subsequently led to her being fired over the "leak".
https://thelibertyloft.com/2021/11/05/pfizer-faked-trial-data-according-to-british-medical-journal/
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/11/03/whistleblower-pfizer-phase-3-clinical-trial-falsified-data.html
https://www.newsplate.org/2021/11/05/pfizer-drug-trial-faked-data-according-to-british-medical-journal/
Evang.Benincasa
11-08-2021, 09:26 PM
The British Medical Journal - so not just some random rag (like the New York Times) - has come out with information from a whistleblower showing that Pfizer's testing sites falsified C19 vaccine testing data. On top of that, Pfizer themselves were informed of the issue and failed to address it, leading to the whistleblower contacting the FDA, which subsequently led to her being fired over the "leak".
https://thelibertyloft.com/2021/11/05/pfizer-faked-trial-data-according-to-british-medical-journal/
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/11/03/whistleblower-pfizer-phase-3-clinical-trial-falsified-data.html
https://www.newsplate.org/2021/11/05/pfizer-drug-trial-faked-data-according-to-british-medical-journal/
Bravo Jito463, bravo. CC1, (also others who may hold his opinion) in order for us to have an intelligent discussion concerning the vaccine. One must be willing to look into all the data. I understand you are vulnerable due to health issues, therefore you and your physician (I'm guessing here) have deemed it prudent for you to get vaccinated. But understand where we and the rest of the world are coming from. Myself, was very skeptical of this "pandemic" since the beginning. I lived through the Swine Flu scare of 1970s, and the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s, then N1H1 of the Obama era, no masks, no wanting to politicize that virus. Even when people started to flip out during the 1980s with the AIDS epidemic we still got passed it. But you understand that AZT treatment for AIDS early on ended up killing a lot of people. Swine Flu vaccine caused deaths, and the well documented cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome. Ronald Reagan once said; "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." We remember that quote because it's the truth. Believe it or not, they actually don't have our best interests in mind. Why do I say that? Because I watched them, and viewed history during my lifetime and listened to them lie, watched them steal, and where did I find it all out? Not from the Internet, because as you well know, we didn't have internet in the 70s, and the 80s.
Remember when we had a president say this; "People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I earned everything I've got." His administration was involved in the Watergate scandal. Now, lets get back to pharmaceuticals. These companies have a long and lengthy history of messing things up, and WE pay for it. Mainstream media is brought to you by PFIZER!!!! CBS Health Watch, Anderson Cooper 360, ABC News Nightline, Making A Difference, CNN Tonight, Early Start, Erin Burnett Out Front, ABC’s This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Good Morning America’s Weather Report, Today’s Countdown to the Royal Wedding, CBS Sports Update, Meet The Press, CBS This Morning, and last but not least 60 Minutes. So, when a The British Medical Journal a weekly peer-reviewed medical trade journal, published by the trade union the British Medical Association. Which is one of the world's OLDEST general medical journals. Reports on Pfizer’s clinical trials were poorly managed and data was falsified. That a whistleblower leaked this all to them. Its time to pay attention. Because they aren't a very few outlier doctors, who are reporting some kind of giant conspiracy. No, here we have The British Medical Journal saying that it's the pharmaceutical company that is "lying about the data"
Evang.Benincasa
11-08-2021, 09:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slrnLklkf_I&ab_channel=ZayRighteousWarrior
Esaias
11-09-2021, 01:54 AM
The British Medical Journal - so not just some random rag (like the New York Times) - has come out with information from a whistleblower showing that Pfizer's testing sites falsified C19 vaccine testing data. On top of that, Pfizer themselves were informed of the issue and failed to address it, leading to the whistleblower contacting the FDA, which subsequently led to her being fired over the "leak".
https://thelibertyloft.com/2021/11/05/pfizer-faked-trial-data-according-to-british-medical-journal/
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/11/03/whistleblower-pfizer-phase-3-clinical-trial-falsified-data.html
https://www.newsplate.org/2021/11/05/pfizer-drug-trial-faked-data-according-to-british-medical-journal/
The last video I posted was from an editor of the BMJ. :thumbsup
Bravo Jito463, bravo. CC1, (also others who may hold his opinion) in order for us to have an intelligent discussion concerning the vaccine. One must be willing to look into all the data. I understand you are vulnerable due to health issues, therefore you and your physician (I'm guessing here) have deemed it prudent for you to get vaccinated. But understand where we and the rest of the world are coming from. Myself, was very skeptical of this "pandemic" since the beginning. I lived through the Swine Flu scare of 1970s, and the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s, then N1H1 of the Obama era, no masks, no wanting to politicize that virus. Even when people started to flip out during the 1980s with the AIDS epidemic we still got passed it. But you understand that AZT treatment for AIDS early on ended up killing a lot of people. Swine Flu vaccine caused deaths, and the well documented cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome. Ronald Reagan once said; "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." We remember that quote because it's the truth. Believe it or not, they actually don't have our best interests in mind. Why do I say that? Because I watched them, and viewed history during my lifetime and listened to them lie, watched them steal, and where did I find it all out? Not from the Internet, because as you well know, we didn't have internet in the 70s, and the 80s.
Remember when we had a president say this; "People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I earned everything I've got." His administration was involved in the Watergate scandal. Now, lets get back to pharmaceuticals. These companies have a long and lengthy history of messing things up, and WE pay for it. Mainstream media is brought to you by PFIZER!!!! CBS Health Watch, Anderson Cooper 360, ABC News Nightline, Making A Difference, CNN Tonight, Early Start, Erin Burnett Out Front, ABC’s This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Good Morning America’s Weather Report, Today’s Countdown to the Royal Wedding, CBS Sports Update, Meet The Press, CBS This Morning, and last but not least 60 Minutes. So, when a The British Medical Journal a weekly peer-reviewed medical trade journal, published by the trade union the British Medical Association. Which is one of the world's OLDEST general medical journals. Reports on Pfizer’s clinical trials were poorly managed and data was falsified. That a whistleblower leaked this all to them. Its time to pay attention. Because they aren't a very few outlier doctors, who are reporting some kind of giant conspiracy. No, here we have The British Medical Journal saying that it's the pharmaceutical company that is "lying about the data"
Good post.
Sesame Street brainwashing children to poison their bodies….
No surprise there
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPlhRUF2aXA
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6325602001
Evang.Benincasa
11-09-2021, 07:09 AM
Sesame Street brainwashing children to poison their bodies….
No surprise there
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPlhRUF2aXA
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6325602001
Judgement is coming, and I am making that statement without having to have a dream about President George Washington with his arm around Donald Trump. With all the states looking towards Philadelphia. No, this sickens me to my soul. Adults can do what they very well please. If you all want to strap IVs to your back filled with the vaccine, then have at it. But fearful parents who are motivated by media, and idiotic group think, is diabolical. Children can't pick their parents, they end up with whatever or whoever their lot falls.
Furthermore, children are in the lowest, and I mean the lowest percentile of having major issues when contracting this virus.
May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on our souls. The pharmaceutical companies are laughing their heads off, as they pass our children through the fires of Moloch.
Evang.Benincasa
11-09-2021, 07:13 AM
Come on people do better, be critical on this issue. This vaccine is sketchy on so many levels. Are you all ready to be taking this medication for the rest of your lives??? Seriously???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLHo0kSwVMU&ab_channel=FactsMatterwithRomanBalmakov
Evang.Benincasa
11-09-2021, 02:10 PM
Where's Gavin? California Governor Newsom disappears from public view for 10 DAYS and skips COP26 summit to deal with 'family obligations' – but posts a Halloween snap in pirate costume with his wife and kids
Newsom was last seen publicly getting a COVID booster shot on October 27
On October 29, he abruptly canceled plans to attend COP26 in Scotland
Spokesperson cited 'family obligations' and said he would attend virtually
No further details on those 'obligations' have been shared
Newsom has not yet made a video appearance at the climate summit
He has been seen only in a pre-recorded Diwali message and Halloween photo
Newsom posed in pirate costume with wife and kids in photo posted on Monday
A spokeswoman says Newsom has been working from the Capitol this week
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10172023/Wheres-Gavin-California-Governor-Newsom-disappears-public-view-10-days.html
Amanah
11-09-2021, 10:06 PM
Pfizer's new anti-viral for Covid is extremely similar to ivermectin. The main difference being that Pharma can make a fortune off their new drug.
https://youtu.be/ufy2AweXRkc
Evang.Benincasa
11-10-2021, 07:06 AM
Pfizer's new anti-viral for Covid is extremely similar to ivermectin. The main difference being that Pharma can make a fortune off their new drug.
https://youtu.be/ufy2AweXRkc
Dr. John Campbell explains how money makes the world go around. :happydance
votivesoul
11-10-2021, 08:37 AM
Where's Gavin? California Governor Newsom disappears from public view for 10 DAYS and skips COP26 summit to deal with 'family obligations' – but posts a Halloween snap in pirate costume with his wife and kids
Newsom was last seen publicly getting a COVID booster shot on October 27
On October 29, he abruptly canceled plans to attend COP26 in Scotland
Spokesperson cited 'family obligations' and said he would attend virtually
No further details on those 'obligations' have been shared
Newsom has not yet made a video appearance at the climate summit
He has been seen only in a pre-recorded Diwali message and Halloween photo
Newsom posed in pirate costume with wife and kids in photo posted on Monday
A spokeswoman says Newsom has been working from the Capitol this week
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10172023/Wheres-Gavin-California-Governor-Newsom-disappears-public-view-10-days.html
He skipped the conference to go trick or treating:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/gavin-newsom-i-just-skipped-the-climate-conference-for-trick-or-treating/
votivesoul
11-10-2021, 09:32 AM
This vid says it all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuAG07-5Yo
Evang.Benincasa
11-10-2021, 10:15 AM
This vid says it all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuAG07-5Yo
Exactly, the frog in the kettle.
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