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jediwill83
04-08-2020, 03:36 PM
In regards to communication platforms like Zoom possibly supplementing the act of physically going into church, Spell told TMZ: "It does not work.
"If it worked then why would America spends billions and billions of dollars on churches."


Not really the best reasoning he could have taken in my opinion...

Esaias
04-08-2020, 03:58 PM
You cannot replace in person congregational meeting. Virtual church is at best a bandaid on a gushing arterial bleed.

Amanah
04-08-2020, 04:11 PM
You cannot replace in person congregational meeting. Virtual church is at best a bandaid on a gushing arterial bleed.

Yes, it is sad :sad

Freeindeed
04-08-2020, 04:27 PM
You cannot replace in person congregational meeting. Virtual church is at best a bandaid on a gushing arterial bleed.

Amen

There is no comparison!

diakonos
04-08-2020, 05:09 PM
You cannot replace in person congregational meeting. Virtual church is at best a bandaid on a gushing arterial bleed.

:thumbsup

jediwill83
04-08-2020, 05:33 PM
You cannot replace in person congregational meeting. Virtual church is at best a bandaid on a gushing arterial bleed.




I get it...its not the same...but we didnt throw out Christianity because the Apostle Paul couldnt show up in person.

hometown guy
04-08-2020, 05:35 PM
In regards to communication platforms like Zoom possibly supplementing the act of physically going into church, Spell told TMZ: "It does not work.
"If it worked then why would America spends billions and billions of dollars on churches."


Not really the best reasoning he could have taken in my opinion...

Seems like they cut out the rest of his response...

Esaias
04-08-2020, 05:39 PM
I get it...its not the same...but we didnt throw out Christianity because the Apostle Paul couldnt show up in person.

The churches met without him.

Sadly many churches today couldn't function without Pastor Fancypants behind the pulpit.

So churches will learn and adjust, or go under.

votivesoul
04-09-2020, 02:42 AM
Make sure you get your "Communion Pick-up"!

EASTER SCHEDULE
During this challenging time as we help combat the spread of COVID-19, Parkway Church invites you to join us for a time of online worship and communion.

APRIL 10, 2020 - GOOD FRIDAY
5 PM - 7 PM - COMMUNION PICKUP
We will be providing a pre-packaged communion cup and wafer that will be available for pickup by drive through here at Parkway Church. We will take communion together during the live-streamed Easter Service.

10940 S Nicholson Road
Oak Creek, WI 53154

https://www.parkwayoc.com/easter

Michael The Disciple
04-09-2020, 06:02 AM
Make sure you get your "Communion Pick-up"!



https://www.parkwayoc.com/easter

Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.

aegsm76
04-09-2020, 07:02 AM
Here is a link to the latest article (I believe it is the latest, anyway)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-cases-balloon-louisiana-pastor-defies-orders-hosts-hundreds-at-church/

n david
04-09-2020, 07:39 AM
Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.
Seriously?

Freeindeed
04-09-2020, 08:04 AM
Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.

Wow!

diakonos
04-09-2020, 01:43 PM
Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.

Way out in left field. You need to step outside and taste the oxygen.

Esaias
04-09-2020, 04:04 PM
Make sure you get your "Communion Pick-up"!



https://www.parkwayoc.com/easter

Traditionally, shut ins and sick folk and others at home without being able to go to church for communion would have a minister actually come to their house to pray for/with them and bring them some of the communion bread and wine.

Without N95 masks and tyvek suits, even.

votivesoul
04-09-2020, 04:25 PM
Traditionally, shut ins and sick folk and others at home without being able to go to church for communion would have a minister actually come to their house to pray for/with them and bring them some of the communion bread and wine.

Without N95 masks and tyvek suits, even.

And that is the right(eous) way.

This whole thing has highlighted for me the so-called clergy/laity divide in many churches. The clergy, as the only active participants in the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if no one is in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection (since for them, ministry = talking). The laity, as the inactive/passive spectators and recipients of the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if they are the only ones in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection.

Why, you can even "take communion" all by your onesie in your living room without so much as a brother or sister within miles of your presence. Just have a camera and an internet connection.

A monolithic juggernaut can only move forward, I guess???

Esaias
04-09-2020, 04:33 PM
And that is the right(eous) way.

This whole thing has highlighted for me the so-called clergy/laity divide in many churches. The clergy, as the only active participants in the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if no one is in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection (since for them, ministry = talking). The laity, as the inactive/passive spectators and recipients of the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if they are the only ones in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection.

Why, you can even "take communion" all by your onesie in your living room without so much as a brother or sister within miles of your presence. Just have a camera and an internet connection.

A monolithic juggernaut can only move forward, I guess???

Exactly. Virtual religion for practically virtual people. How sad. Because many will discover they only had a virtual simulated salvation.

james34
04-09-2020, 05:11 PM
Exactly. Virtual religion for practically virtual people. How sad. Because many will discover they only had a virtual simulated salvation.

Ouch! The virtual reality pandemic, hopefully real Christian's wont be deceived by these "New Norms."
The Lord has never given permission to submit to an authority that changes the very fundamentals of Christianity, even though it be through the guise of necessity.
This is the problem when the state usurps authority that God didnt give. They in their power trip began to think they have power over the church, it is an impossibility. If it were possible the state would legislate unrighteousness and force the church to comply.
The world loves it's own, darkness hates light, because it shows forth its evil deeds.For this reason men often have had to make a decision to obey God and not man, even at the cost of their life.

Esaias
04-09-2020, 05:22 PM
Ouch! The virtual reality pandemic, hopefully real Christian's wont be deceived by these "New Norms."
The Lord has never given permission to submit to an authority that changes the very fundamentals of Christianity, even though it be through the guise of necessity.
This is the problem when the state usurps authority that God didnt give. They in their power trip began to think they have power over the church, it is an impossibility. If it were possible the state would legislate unrighteousness and force the church to comply.
The world loves it's own, darkness hates light, because it shows forth its evil deeds.For this reason men often have had to make a decision to obey God and not man, even at the cost of their life.

:thumbsup

Exactly. I believe some separation of wheat and chaff is taking place.

Evang.Benincasa
04-13-2020, 03:22 AM
I get it...its not the same...but we didnt throw out Christianity because the Apostle Paul couldnt show up in person.

The Apostle Paul didn’t have to show up at all. The churches were all elderships, and communal. Christianity survived because of community. You couldn’t leave one church and find another. That happened later in history. Early churches were communities, which were families. Hence the titles, elders, mothers, fathers, brothers, and sisters. We’ve been groomed for this event in the Pentecostal church. We are the First Church of the Internet. Moving the show over to Snap Chat is no big thing. Hey, it’s going to save on paying for air conditioning the churches this summer. While everyone is under house arrest.

Evang.Benincasa
04-13-2020, 03:27 AM
Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.

Spoken by the guy whose congregation is his wife and two dogs.

diakonos
04-13-2020, 01:03 PM
Spoken by the guy whose congregation is his wife and two dogs.

Gosh :lol

Michael The Disciple
04-14-2020, 06:51 AM
Spoken by the guy whose congregation is his wife and two dogs.

Blessings Dom.

CC1
04-14-2020, 04:31 PM
I don't know anybody that is claiming having church online compares to having church where people are gathered together. It is a temporary measure during a crisis and the people trying to make it something more should be ashamed of themselves. I have yet to see one person using this situation to say "see, we don't need church. Let's all just have it online!" yet I constantly see that premise put forth as if people are actually thinking that way.

hometown guy
04-14-2020, 04:52 PM
I don't know anybody that is claiming having church online compares to having church where people are gathered together. It is a temporary measure during a crisis and the people trying to make it something more should be ashamed of themselves. I have yet to see one person using this situation to say "see, we don't need church. Let's all just have it online!" yet I constantly see that premise put forth as if people are actually thinking that way.

The government is basically saying that. If something is considered non essential then it isn’t needed. They are saying our world will never be the same... when this thing takes off again who do you think is going to get the blame... the churches. The apostolic movement is a hands on type of religion. Other churches can do it and get their agenda done. The true church is founded on gathering.

diakonos
04-14-2020, 07:02 PM
“Many men in the Homes of the Scholars have had strange new ideas in the past . . . but when the majority of their brother Scholars voted against them, they abandoned their ideas, as all men must.”