Dr's conference blows away pandemic lie

[Esaias]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx_lBLU

[acjcpastor]

Thanks for sharing

[Pressing-On]

Yes, thank you. I like sensible and factual things to listen to or read.

[coksiw]

Thanks for sharing. I couldn’t watch all of it. How does he explain the overwhelmed hospitals of NY, Spain and Italy? I had a hard time finding anything about it in the video. All I heard was that they were hotbeds.

This is inline with the WSJ article I shared before. There is something different than the flu about this, and I believe is the rate of transmission being real high and overwhelming hospitals, or something related with the number of hospitalizations (no death), but not sure.

[coksiw]

Flu hospitalization rate (whether you need a regular bed or ICU bed) from estimated data: 810,000 / 45,000,000 (symptomatic) = 1.8%
From here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Hospitalization rate for COVID:
I can't find only symptomatic cases. I can't find just the hospitalizations. However from looking at this data https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ in the USA, I can come up with some number:
892,800 (total cases, includes some no symptomatic) / 15,042 (Serious/Critical cases, exclude some hosp not serious) = 1.6% (USA)
In Spain, the number is 3.6%.

So the hospitalization rate could be similar to the flu at the end, but it seems that it may be a little bit more. Add to that the fact that it is coming quick in one-two months, vs the flu which is a whole year number, distributed in two seasons.

[coksiw]

The other possibility is that the flu numbers we get from the CDC are wrong for being overinflated to justify the flu vaccine. They are all estimates after all.

This is anecdotal, but again, I have never met a person that later on died of the flu, not even asthma. I have met people that have died of cancer, heart diseases, etc...

[Esaias]

The other possibility is that the flu numbers we get from the CDC are wrong for being overinflated to justify the flu vaccine. They are all estimates after all.

This is anecdotal, but again, I have never met a person that later on died of the flu, not even asthma. I have met people that have died of cancer, heart diseases, etc...

If the CDC is overinflating numbers to push a flu vaccine, then clearly they are being straight up honest with the corona numbers... right?

Did you watch the video? Or no?

[coksiw]

If the CDC is overinflating numbers to push a flu vaccine, then clearly they are being straight up honest with the corona numbers... right?

Did you watch the video? Or no?

I skipped through it as I need to go to work. It is 1h watch, I watched like 30mins total. I'll watch more tonight. The covid death at least are not accurate. That we all know.

[Esaias]

Long vids can be played at 1.5x speed. Helps imo.

[Tithesmeister]

Long vids can be played at 1.5x speed. Helps imo.

I watched the whole thing. These doctors make more sense than anybody I’ve heard lately. Maybe because they’re saying what I believe.

[coksiw]

Long vids can be played at 1.5x speed. Helps imo.

So I watched the whole thing. Thanks for the tip.

I think I got the answer I was looking for. He mentioned that in Spain, for instance, the chance of recovering without hospitalization is 95%. He also said that in a place I can’t remember but in USA (I think it was NY), your chance is 92%.

So the problem of this virus is hospitalization, not the death rate. Flu hospitalization rate of symptomatic cases in USA is 1.8% according to the data from CDC. COVID hospitalization rate is 100-92 in USA and 100-95 in Spain, basically 8%-5%, which is a lot higher.

It makes sense also from the initial news from China when they informed to the WHO that they were seeing an abnormal increase of pneumonia hospitalizations.

I definitely agree with those doctors regarding strategy, though.
I am glad we are getting more data and having a better understanding of this.

[coksiw]

What I see is that our prayer to give the leaders of our nation wisdom to handle this better for everyone is starting to be answered :)

Doctors speaking out, lawsuits piling up, all of that will help.

[KeptByTheWord]

That was a great video. Interestingly, someone today in my family shared it to our whole family in a group text, so the word is getting out. I hope more people listen, understand and see that there is a deeper motive and agenda at work here than what meets the eye.

[Jito463]

Long vids can be played at 1.5x speed. Helps imo.

Except with Ben Shapiro, I usually have to slow him down to 0.75 speed. :heeheehee

[coksiw]

This video has been removed by YouTube for violating Terms of Service. Seriously.

[Jito463]

This video has been removed by YouTube for violating Terms of Service. Seriously.

Yeah, we were discussing that in another thread. Fortunately, I saved the video before the Stasi took it down. I figured that was coming, so I planned ahead. I guess a number of people have been re-uploading the video anyway. I've even thought about making a fake account and uploading it myself.

[coksiw]

Yeah, we were discussing that in another thread. Fortunately, I saved the video before the Stasi took it down. I figured that was coming, so I planned ahead. I guess a number of people have been re-uploading the video anyway. I've even thought about making a fake account and uploading it myself.

Analysis from FoxNews: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6152742822001#sp=show-clips

[coksiw]

When this all started, and I watched the China ability to control people to the point of knowing who you met days ago and where you went so they can track the infection, and the drones and all that, I told a Democrat at work: this virus will go away, but what will remain is the precedent of people's move tracking, and the acceptance of it by the people as "necessary to safe lives".

We are headed to the end.

[jfrog]

Was this the video with the 2 California doctors?

[Jito463]

Was this the video with the 2 California doctors?

Yep.

[james34]

I watched the whole thing. These doctors make more sense than anybody I’ve heard lately. Maybe because they’re saying what I believe.

Anybody have a link to this video that hasn't been removed?

[Jito463]

Looks like I found another copy of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJprwe_rWeM

[james34]

Wow obvious even to honest doctors, this is a shamdemic!