View Full Version : Nurse speaks out about COVID19
Esaias
04-28-2020, 11:17 PM
https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/nurse-testament-patients-left-to-rot-and-die-never-seen-so-much-neglect-no-one-cares-murder_UwavDetATs8JmDQ.html
Original Facebook page (just removed): https://www.facebook.com/sara.98222?__tn__=%2CdlC-R&eid=ARDoiPEf7tfFx-jPd_ba50PHf_g1qkED3D74JX5pVXMhIMlBKQ7w1rifche1bO7V cgI9n5a6oflbu6Hi&hc_ref=ARRIBtT1SBnHLSu5m84oSnneuQzWJInQoh2-lVH-k3q3fyL1nYd0F-S5qEd1arEaLO8
Original video (just removed): https://www.facebook.com/sara.98222/videos/10105710349919968/
Youtube version (recently censored by youtube to blur the person speaking): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUd8A4AOxFc
KeptByTheWord
04-29-2020, 02:02 PM
Thanks for sharing the video.... hopefully more people will speak out about this!
n david
04-29-2020, 02:45 PM
So which is it? COVID19 real and overwhelming the hospitals or it's a hoax and in order to get number up, Drs have to lie about patients having COVID19?
Esaias
04-29-2020, 03:22 PM
So which is it? COVID19 real and overwhelming the hospitals or it's a hoax and in order to get number up, Drs have to lie about patients having COVID19?
Silly rabbit, trix are for kids.
mfblume
04-29-2020, 03:36 PM
Please encourage people not to fear with faith in God, since a plethora of these posts does cause fear in man.
:thumbsup
Esaias
04-29-2020, 04:12 PM
Please encourage people not to fear with faith in God, since a plethora of these posts does cause fear in man.
:thumbsup
Information causes fear in people who haven't pre-planned and who are prone to normalcy bias. This nurse isn't saying anything many of us haven't known for DECADES already. The hospital is about the WORST place you can be in just about ANY situation except heart attack or broken limbs or blunt trauma or penetration wounds. And even those are sketchy situations anyway.
I do not understand why a person with a fever would go to the doctor much less a hospital (unless they are already in fragile condition to begin with).
I do not understand why information/news (much less an internet post) would cause anyone to be afraid - UNLESS it's bad news about something they haven't prepared for. And even then?
I guess some people's default response is to run in circles and panic while the rest of us respond appropriately and calmly? Are people too fragile to handle reality?
And Christians? How is it even possible for a Christian to fear news? Seems if that's the case that person's problem isn't the news, it's something more fundamental.
Is your problem hard? Be harder than your problem.
Maybe everyone needs to spend 6 months in a boxing gymn sometime in their life.
Jito463
04-29-2020, 06:43 PM
Information causes fear in people who haven't pre-planned and who are prone to normalcy bias. This nurse isn't saying anything many of us haven't known for DECADES already. The hospital is about the WORST place you can be in just about ANY situation except heart attack or broken limbs or blunt trauma or penetration wounds. And even those are sketchy situations anyway.
I do not understand why a person with a fever would go to the doctor much less a hospital (unless they are already in fragile condition to begin with).
I do not understand why information/news (much less an internet post) would cause anyone to be afraid - UNLESS it's bad news about something they haven't prepared for. And even then?
I guess some people's default response is to run in circles and panic while the rest of us respond appropriately and calmly? Are people too fragile to handle reality?
And Christians? How is it even possible for a Christian to fear news? Seems if that's the case that person's problem isn't the news, it's something more fundamental.
Is your problem hard? Be harder than your problem.
Maybe everyone needs to spend 6 months in a boxing gymn sometime in their life.
There was a woman at work today - during a conversation about wearing masks - who was talking about how she is afraid because of C19, and didn't understand how we (the employees) couldn't be afraid. I immediately responded that I simply put my trust in God. It was like a light suddenly went on, and the realization just dawned on her.
People who trust in God have no need to fear, whether it be famine, pestilence, plague, violence or even death. It's not even about preperation, though there's certainly no harm (and much good) in doing so. It all boils down to our relationship with our Creator.
I know you weren't trying to say otherwise, I was just using your comments as a springboard for my post.
james34
04-29-2020, 06:59 PM
Please encourage people not to fear with faith in God, since a plethora of these posts does cause fear in man.
:thumbsup
You mean the fear of covid19?
Why are we not calling out the real fear mongers, the media/goverment?
What is scarier than telling people if they want to live stay home?
I dont understand how we look past this and rather call the one pointing out the truth (using facts, testimonies, not bad models and projections) as the fear monger?
mfblume
04-29-2020, 08:46 PM
You mean the fear of covid19?
Why are we not calling out the real fear mongers, the media/goverment?
What is scarier than telling people if they want to live stay home?
I dont understand how we look past this and rather call the one pointing out the truth (using facts, testimonies, not bad models and projections) as the fear monger?
People become afraid of ALL such things and must be encouraged to have faith. I never said the media and government are not fearmongers.
mfblume
04-29-2020, 08:48 PM
Information causes fear in people who haven't pre-planned and who are prone to normalcy bias. This nurse isn't saying anything many of us haven't known for DECADES already. The hospital is about the WORST place you can be in just about ANY situation except heart attack or broken limbs or blunt trauma or penetration wounds. And even those are sketchy situations anyway.
I do not understand why a person with a fever would go to the doctor much less a hospital (unless they are already in fragile condition to begin with).
I do not understand why information/news (much less an internet post) would cause anyone to be afraid - UNLESS it's bad news about something they haven't prepared for. And even then?
I guess some people's default response is to run in circles and panic while the rest of us respond appropriately and calmly? Are people too fragile to handle reality?
And Christians? How is it even possible for a Christian to fear news? Seems if that's the case that person's problem isn't the news, it's something more fundamental.
Is your problem hard? Be harder than your problem.
Maybe everyone needs to spend 6 months in a boxing gymn sometime in their life.
Whether we understand it or not, it does cause fear. This world is so fear prone that constant reference to a conspiracy freaks them out. So, I am just saying we need to encourage faith.
james34
04-29-2020, 08:54 PM
People become afraid of ALL such things and must be encouraged to have faith. I never said the media and government are not fearmongers.
No but I dont see the media and government being labeled as such through all of this.
Jito463
04-29-2020, 08:58 PM
The video's been pulled from Youtube. Also, the video you posted about the doctors (ironically, posted from an ABC channel) has been pulled, as well. The latter one I had saved to my computer, and am finally getting around to watching it.
mfblume
04-29-2020, 09:29 PM
No but I dont see the media and government being labeled as such through all of this.
That doesn't mean they are not. The media is not here. We are.
Esaias
04-29-2020, 10:09 PM
The video's been pulled from Youtube. Also, the video you posted about the doctors (ironically, posted from an ABC channel) has been pulled, as well. The latter one I had saved to my computer, and am finally getting around to watching it.
Amazing, isn't it? Pravda and Izvestia, in the "free world".
Esaias
04-29-2020, 10:10 PM
There was a woman at work today - during a conversation about wearing masks - who was talking about how she is afraid because of C19, and didn't understand how we (the employees) couldn't be afraid. I immediately responded that I simply put my trust in God. It was like a light suddenly went on, and the realization just dawned on her.
People who trust in God have no need to fear, whether it be famine, pestilence, plague, violence or even death. It's not even about preperation, though there's certainly no harm (and much good) in doing so. It all boils down to our relationship with our Creator.
I know you weren't trying to say otherwise, I was just using your comments as a springboard for my post.
:thumbsup
n david
04-30-2020, 08:43 AM
Silly rabbit, trix are for kids.
Question remains.
There are posts on here on how this is just a big elaborate hoax. And then there's this. Which is it?
Esaias
04-30-2020, 09:51 AM
Question remains.
There are posts on here on how this is just a big elaborate hoax. And then there's this. Which is it?
That's like saying "There are posts on here claiming it's raining, and then there's THIS post that claims water is falling from the clouds and making everything wet. So which is it?"
Esaias
04-30-2020, 09:53 AM
https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/nurse-testament-patients-left-to-rot-and-die-never-seen-so-much-neglect-no-one-cares-murder_UwavDetATs8JmDQ.html
Original Facebook page (just removed): https://www.facebook.com/sara.98222?__tn__=%2CdlC-R&eid=ARDoiPEf7tfFx-jPd_ba50PHf_g1qkED3D74JX5pVXMhIMlBKQ7w1rifche1bO7V cgI9n5a6oflbu6Hi&hc_ref=ARRIBtT1SBnHLSu5m84oSnneuQzWJInQoh2-lVH-k3q3fyL1nYd0F-S5qEd1arEaLO8
Original video (just removed): https://www.facebook.com/sara.98222/videos/10105710349919968/
Youtube version (recently censored by youtube to blur the person speaking): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUd8A4AOxFc
The video is still up at the first link.
Jito463
04-30-2020, 12:11 PM
Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire has addressed the pulled doctors video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY0kYr-ourk
james34
04-30-2020, 03:56 PM
That doesn't mean they are not. The media is not here. We are.
It means the media is not being called out on here. Here is where I am saying I'm not hearing it.
Unless of course one believes the media and justifies what they say as truth.(IOW unavoidable fear)I suppose we could debate that idea.
So this would really be about who has the truth, or if your a bible believer with a different perspective from ,mainstream media(even though it's a fact based perspective) then you are not allowed to share it as it may cause fear.
It seems the battle cry has changed and as the church(church=as far as a public worship place/regardless of denomination) has accepted worldly religion, has no use for a trutkand noptcCgbut the truth position. It's no wonder the Holy Ghost is leading Godly people to gather and fellowship in home churches and away from the secular religious environment found in most Pentecostal churches, where often bible truths are not welcomed.
I would be surprised if in 10yrs there is any public worship, unless they are fully government compliant and fully immersed into political correctness. This type of atmosphere is hostile toward the truth of Gods word and he doesnt force his presence where he is not wanted.
mfblume
04-30-2020, 03:59 PM
It means the media is not being called out on here. Here is where I am saying I'm not hearing it.
Unless of course one believes the media and justifies what they say as truth.(IOW unavoidable fear)I suppose we could debate that idea.
So this would really be about who has the truth, or if your a bible believer with a different perspective from ,mainstream media(even though it's a fact based perspective) then you are not allowed to share it as it may cause fear.
It seems the battle cry has changed and as the church(church=as far as a public worship place/regardless of denomination) has accepted worldly religion, has no use for a trutkand noptcCgbut the truth position. It's no wonder the Holy Ghost is leading Godly people to gather and fellowship in home churches and away from the secular religious environment found in most Pentecostal churches, where often bible truths are not welcomed.
I would be surprised if in 10yrs there is any public worship, unless they are fully government compliant and fully immersed into political correctness. This type of atmosphere is hostile toward the truth of Gods word and he doesnt force his presence where he is not wanted.
We are believers here and I believe no one here thinks the media is pure as the driven snow.
So, truths not being welcomed include how the media is a farce?
Okaaay.
Esaias
04-30-2020, 08:02 PM
We are believers here and I believe no one here thinks the media is pure as the driven snow.
So, truths not being welcomed include how the media is a farce?
Okaaay.
What's interesting to me is on the one hand people say the media is not to be believed, then on the other hand those same people believe the media about certain things. Like the infection rate of coronaflu, the value of isolation and shutting down church meetings, etc. Truly it seems like examples of doublethink.
What is really disconcerting is the extent to which professing Christians and Pentecostals allow the secular government to dictate matters which are wholly church matters, like whether or not the Lord's Supper is a "core element" of worship, etc. The overreach by the secular power is blatant and must be defied by the churches, otherwise the churches lose ALL credibility whatsoever.
I think honestly this is a generation that is too far gone to be of any value or use, overall. I think the next two or three generations will be the ones that experience revival and reformation. I'd love to be wrong, but I suspect the beatings will continue until morale improves. Our job is seems to be to keep the spark of truth lit until a generation arrives that is willing to fan it into a flame.
Steven Avery
05-01-2020, 12:14 AM
So which is it? COVID19 real and overwhelming the hospitals or it's a hoax and in order to get number up, Drs have to lie about patients having COVID19? The nurse, and some others, point out that they are killing people with wrong treatment, too early, and usually totally unnecessary, ventilators and intubation. There are far crisper and non-invasive methods to handle the symptom of oxygen deprivation, certain oxy masks (avoided partly because of their transmission myths), good ol chloroquinine and its compatriots, and simple natural therapies, as done by Chris Cuomo. Cuomo included his home sauna, while his brother Andrew (Gimme 40K ventilators, NOW! Whine whine) outlawed saunas for the peons and serfs who usually do not have one at home.
This death treatment (numbers have been quoted of 80% and 90% for the ventilators) occurs after they have one of many symptoms (they recently added 6 more symptoms, making it easier to call just about anything covid) or one of the bogus tests.
The young lady was emotional about the fact that people were simply being killed by 'ze protocol', that brings in lots of moolah to the hospitals. $$$$, as Pink Floyd sang.
Remember, you can get any symptom or test you want, at the covid restaurant.
Afaik, she did not say that there is any real pandemic.
Keep in mind that sometimes even the good guys and gals have seen bogus video, like the one staged at Elmhurst Hospital, or the one at the pauper's burial ground on Hart Island, and thus think that "over there" the situation actually is real bad.
End the sham-demic.
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Do NOT wear masks, they cut off your wonderful oxygen.
The Ledger Report, Graham Ledger, OAN, gave a number of other reasons, the symbolism, etc.
If you do wear them, make it a few minutes, and preferably just cover your mouth, or nothing. Just pretend, many of the people know this is a charade. And place a note "Jesus never wore a mask" or "Tyranny Cuomo" on the mask.
And develop your own home sanitarium response team.
The best defense is a good offense -- stay healthy!
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james34
05-04-2020, 07:19 AM
We are believers here and I believe no one here thinks the media is pure as the driven snow.
So, truths not being welcomed include how the media is a farce?
Okaaay.
It's not about the media being as pure as the driven snow, it's about once someone or something has established themselves to any level of dishonesty, they have earned the right to be questioned on everything they say and do. To quote them and rely on them , or to use information they reported and then expect that narrative to float by unchallenged is simply laughable.
To pretend none of this(shamdemic) exists by remaining silent and then abide by the rules
That have been put in place because of it, is evidentiary that one doesnt deny its existence while at the same time doesnt want to objectively thnk their way through it.....Objective thinking maybe brings to light uncomfortable realities?
So in short it's not the things skeptical people say that keeps this going, it's the "ACTIONS" of those who just assume the "pandemic"must be exactly As the ("MEDIA GODS and Beurocratic arms Government...such as CDC, WHO, FAUCCI, GATES etc.) says. This proven by their unwavering obedience to every new social guideline that surfaces during this time. This is the TRUE FEAR MONGERING! The uncomfortable thing would be to acknowledge the fear and the fact that it exposes a place where faith should be.
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