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TakingDominion
05-20-2020, 10:48 PM
So we got a call this morning, a man in the church where we are in revival has tested positive for coronavirus. My boys and I were at their house Monday for haircuts. I sat next to him on the couch. I called the covid hotline today. They said since his test came back immediately it must have been an antibody test and those are unreliable. The nurse said the reliable tests take 8-10 days to get results back. She asked if we had symptoms, I said no. She asked if the state had called us, again the answer was no. She said as long as we don't show symptoms (cough, fever) in the next couple days, we should be in the clear.

I texted the man tonight. He is achy and feels like he has a "bug". His family is being quarantined for 2 weeks. I am scheduled to preach tomorrow night. Pray for us

Esaias
05-20-2020, 11:34 PM
Did he have symptoms before, or after, he got his test results?

Was the test a nasal swab or a blood draw?

Remember: according to the actual medical literature (not the news media, politicians, or internet bloggers) COVID19 is essentially a flu/cold. (Never mind the case numbers are completely inflated and worthless, the results are admitted to be wrong in up to 80% of tests, and the entire germ theory of viral infection has never been actually proven and is likely seriously flawed.)

If you're concerned, 5-10k IUs of Vitamin D3, Vitamin C to bowel tolerance in 1-2g doses every 1-3 hours, fresh air, and confident prayer is likely all you need (unless you have serious other pre existing conditions). I'd stay away from any shots, corticosteroids or other steroidal meds, antivirals, ventilators, and doctors/hospitals. Too much bad medicine and too many ulterior motive$ involved with this thing, in my opinion, to trust The System(tm) to do much of anything correctly.

jfrog
05-21-2020, 02:21 AM
So we got a call this morning, a man in the church where we are in revival has tested positive for coronavirus. My boys and I were at their house Monday for haircuts. I sat next to him on the couch. I called the covid hotline today. They said since his test came back immediately it must have been an antibody test and those are unreliable. The nurse said the reliable tests take 8-10 days to get results back. She asked if we had symptoms, I said no. She asked if the state had called us, again the answer was no. She said as long as we don't show symptoms (cough, fever) in the next couple days, we should be in the clear.

I texted the man tonight. He is achy and feels like he has a "bug". His family is being quarantined for 2 weeks. I am scheduled to preach tomorrow night. Pray for us

Some common sense: If the man is symptomatic and tested positive using any method then he likely has it regardless of whatever the hotline tells you. That means due to your vicinity and time spent around him that you have a good chance of having it as well.

Surely you aren't considering going to church to preach after learning this information?

TakingDominion
05-21-2020, 02:36 AM
Did he have symptoms before, or after, he got his test results?

Was the test a nasal swab or a blood draw?

Remember: according to the actual medical literature (not the news media, politicians, or internet bloggers) COVID19 is essentially a flu/cold. (Never mind the case numbers are completely inflated and worthless, the results are admitted to be wrong in up to 80% of tests, and the entire germ theory of viral infection has never been actually proven and is likely seriously flawed.)

If you're concerned, 5-10k IUs of Vitamin D3, Vitamin C to bowel tolerance in 1-2g doses every 1-3 hours, fresh air, and confident prayer is likely all you need (unless you have serious other pre existing conditions). I'd stay away from any shots, corticosteroids or other steroidal meds, antivirals, ventilators, and doctors/hospitals. Too much bad medicine and too many ulterior motive$ involved with this thing, in my opinion, to trust The System(tm) to do much of anything correctly.

He started showing symptoms Tuesday evening. Went for testing Wednesday. It was a nasal swab. We have no serious preexisting conditions.

TakingDominion
05-21-2020, 02:38 AM
Some common sense: If the man is symptomatic and tested positive using any method then he likely has it regardless of whatever the hotline tells you. That means due to your vicinity and time spent around him that you have a good chance of having it as well.

Surely you aren't considering going to church to preach after learning this information?

I actually read your chances of catching the virus even if someone in your household has it, is less than 30%.

I'm considering leaving it up to the pastor here.

TakingDominion
05-21-2020, 05:15 AM
After a night of fitful sleep. I woke up this morning with what I'll describe as a mild head cold (slight headache, low grade fever (99.4), small amount of phlegm in my throat and a stuffy nose). After showering, I feel a bit better. I will attempt again today to get tested.

I do not have a cough or any other symptoms.

votivesoul
05-21-2020, 05:24 AM
After a night of fitful sleep. I woke up this morning with what I'll describe as a mild head cold (slight headache, low grade fever (99.4), small amount of phlegm in my throat and a stuffy nose). After showering, I feel a bit better. I will attempt again today to get tested.

I do not have a cough or any other symptoms.

Echinacea tea or tincture, with eucalyptus essential oil diffuser as you sleep (careful if you have dogs). Camu powder matcha smoothies, too. Beef liver and eggs for Vitamin D. More sunlight.

https://www.healthline.com/health/echinacea-tea-benefits

https://www.healthline.com/health/essential-oils-for-copd

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/camu-camu

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-benefits-of-matcha-tea

coksiw
05-21-2020, 08:00 AM
After a night of fitful sleep. I woke up this morning with what I'll describe as a mild head cold (slight headache, low grade fever (99.4), small amount of phlegm in my throat and a stuffy nose). After showering, I feel a bit better. I will attempt again today to get tested.

I do not have a cough or any other symptoms.

May the Lord bless your health and make you recover quickly. Take care Brother.

jfrog
05-21-2020, 10:50 PM
I actually read your chances of catching the virus even if someone in your household has it, is less than 30%.

I'm considering leaving it up to the pastor here.

Better than that. Call and let everyone you know that will be there know what happened and the potential risk. Maybe that way they can at least make an informed decision about their lives instead of having you and your pastor do it for them.

jfrog
05-21-2020, 10:53 PM
After a night of fitful sleep. I woke up this morning with what I'll describe as a mild head cold (slight headache, low grade fever (99.4), small amount of phlegm in my throat and a stuffy nose). After showering, I feel a bit better. I will attempt again today to get tested.

I do not have a cough or any other symptoms.

If I was still into Church I would be taking that as a sign that God didn't want me to go preach that service. Wish you a speedy recovery.

Amanah
05-21-2020, 11:17 PM
To stay home when you have an infectious disease of any sort is courteous in my opinion.

diakonos
05-21-2020, 11:18 PM
After a night of fitful sleep. I woke up this morning with what I'll describe as a mild head cold (slight headache, low grade fever (99.4), small amount of phlegm in my throat and a stuffy nose). After showering, I feel a bit better. I will attempt again today to get tested.

I do not have a cough or any other symptoms.

Did you get tested?
(Were you able..?)

KeptByTheWord
05-21-2020, 11:28 PM
Hopefully you don't get the virus, but totally agree with the D3, vitamin C and sunlight recommendations. Prayers for wisdom in this situation.

TakingDominion
05-22-2020, 05:20 AM
The pastor here decided to cancel services for a week. I was able to get tested after alot of phone calls to the so called hotlines. I'm waiting for my results and staying in the trailer until I get them back. My symptoms are mild and I'm able to manage them with a couple extra strength Tylenol. I did take vitamin d and zinc. Also drinking lots of orange juice. This morning my fever is gone, but now it feels like I have an ear infection (pain in my inner ear).

Another man in the church tested positive and the pastor told me yesterday he wasn't feeling well. He's going to get tested today. Interesting enough, the two who got positive went to the same testing site at a local Baptist Church. I was told I couldn't get tested there because I'm not a resident of the state. I got tested at the hospital. Their results came back within a few hours. I was told 2-7 days.

Steven Avery
05-22-2020, 07:27 AM
Hi Taking Dominion,

blessings and health in Jesus name!

Natural Health

Can you be outside in the sun, on a porch, talking walks,etc. for at least a couple of hours every day? I would put that as #1. Make your own outdoor sanitarium, take naps there. Should be a colourful plant and tree area, if possible. Lawn chairs laid mostly flat, with or without cushions, is what I use.

Orange juice, to be helpful, MUST be fresh-squeezed, unpasterurized, sometimes available in supermarkets (or at home.) The regular store stuff is too much sugar for too little good, it should only be a minor part of any diet.

Drink water through the day. There are various mild sweetener methods, like Drink More Good herbal syrup, or mix 10% the high-class Ginger Ale, like Fever Tree or Q, Fever Tree Tonic Water, Indian, Lemon and regular, with quinine, is quite a product, too. The only pasteurized juice that I really love is Sambozen Acai, BJs, some supermarkets, very smooth, little or no gums, again it can be mixed with water (perhaps seltzer, but that is a complex personal decision issue, I do use it.)

Try to make the water during this period high-class, I like Topo Chico from Mexico, also a Romanian water from the Carpathian mountains showed up in my local store .. another, different, theory is distilled water, however most distillers leave the water a little flat. (Go go Willard Water .. lol). While you might balk at $2 for a regular size water, if it is healthy and tastes real good, I would put it on a health program. Glass beats plastic by a mile, especially if the water has been traveling a long way.

What they call an alkaline diet is something you can check out, but this opens up many vistas. Healthy home-made soups and the Japanese stuff, miso soup, salmon teriyaki, tempura, can often be a light food base. Generally pass on the steaks, burgers and chicken etc., especially when your body wants to restore. And LOW on sugars and carbs.

Fresh garlic, echinachea, elderberry etc

There is a great herbal thread on Facebook, now I have to search for it again :).

Saunas are great, used by Chris Cuomo and his wife Cristina, while his brother Andrew closed them for the peons and serfs. Even recommended by the president of Belarus, Lukashenko! :)

Not just smoothies, get the juicer out, and search out the best veggies (and apples, which is a neutral fruit.) Try to keep separate in time, hour or more away, from any fruit-based smoothies, which are excellent but should not be overdone.

I'll probably add a bit, I did have an earlier thread, which I will link in a minute, I am not reviewing that in preparing this one.

healthy living - natural remedies -pandemic prep
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=53861

The less you do with the establishment the better.

Check your breathing with deep breathing. If no problem there, excellent. If a little problem, shortness of breath, there is a little specialized study. VotiveSoul has an essential oil article below, think compresses also, then the lighter mechanical helps (NOT ventilator or intubation, avoid avoid avoid.)

If for some reason a hospital is ever necessary, try to make sure that you personally sign off on any treatment, and this is in writing. And do not allow vaccinations of any kind, in any way. Often, they will try to sneak them in. They have $$ reasons for many mal-treatments.

My friend George, and his wife Phyllis, who do missionary work and build wells in Malawi, use chloroquine (HCQ is a related one) along with lots of garlic, and no-vax, as the malaria preventative on his trips. So I think properly used, this may have a place in treatment, that Trump is partially right on that one. Malaria and the current condition (likely not really a virus in the modern faux terminology) can both have an oxygen deprivation effect on the blood, which is quite different than flu and pneumonia treatments. Taking us back to the outside, fresh air, #1, recommendation. Anyway, I can put anyone in touch with George, through Facebook to start, where I am Steven Avery, and if that is complex to find, look at the group called Pure Bible. The couple is 70 and plus, and I actually knew George from the early days of what is now Homestead Heritage, with Blair Adams. Similarly I appreciate the work from Centurion Health Ministries in TN, which has an historic Adventist base.

the results are admitted to be wrong in up to 80% of tests, and the entire germ theory of viral infection has never been actually proven and is likely seriously flawed.)

If you're concerned, 5-10k IUs of Vitamin D3, Vitamin C to bowel tolerance in 1-2g doses every 1-3 hours, fresh air, and confident prayer is likely all you need (unless you have serious other pre existing conditions).

I'd stay away from any shots, corticosteroids or other steroidal meds, antivirals, ventilators, and doctors/hospitals ...

Echinacea tea or tincture, with eucalyptus essential oil diffuser as you sleep (careful if you have dogs). Camu powder matcha smoothies, too. Beef liver and eggs for Vitamin D. More sunlight.

Echinacea Tea Benefits
https://www.healthline.com/health/echinacea-tea-benefits
Essential Oils for COPD
https://www.healthline.com/health/essential-oils-for-copd
Camu
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/camu-camu
Matcha Tea
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-benefits-of-matcha-tea

The pastor here decided to cancel services for a week. I was able to get tested after alot of phone calls to the so called hotlines. I'm waiting for my results and staying in the trailer until I get them back.

My symptoms are mild and I'm able to manage them with a couple extra strength Tylenol. I did take vitamin d and zinc. Also drinking lots of orange juice. This morning my fever is gone, but now it feels like I have an ear infection (pain in my inner ear).

TakingDominion
05-22-2020, 07:52 AM
Interesting to note, the second person that tested positive went to the doctor the day before being tested and was told he had an upper respiratory infection. They did not test him for coronavirus. After urging from friends and family he went and got tested and was told to be positive. Seems suspicious since you would think any doctor's office right now would be testing for covid-19 when dealing with a respiratory infection???

diakonos
05-22-2020, 08:01 AM
Interesting to note, the second person that tested positive went to the doctor the day before being tested and was told he had an upper respiratory infection. They did not test him for coronavirus. After urging from friends and family he went and got tested and was told to be positive. Seems suspicious since you would think any doctor's office right now would be testing for covid-19 when dealing with a respiratory infection???

You had a fever and sore throat. The E.R. did not test me for covid. I went to the clinic 3 days later and the doc was upset that I wasn’t tested at the E.R.

coksiw
05-22-2020, 08:31 AM
Interesting to note, the second person that tested positive went to the doctor the day before being tested and was told he had an upper respiratory infection. They did not test him for coronavirus. After urging from friends and family he went and got tested and was told to be positive. Seems suspicious since you would think any doctor's office right now would be testing for covid-19 when dealing with a respiratory infection???

You had a fever and sore throat. The E.R. did not test me for covid. I went to the clinic 3 days later and the doc was upset that I wasn’t tested at the E.R.

COVID fatigue, doctors are burning out. Too much talking, too much fear, too much panic, too much media, too much pressure to "save us", too much saturation of senses.

[Jer 17:5-8 NKJV] 5 Thus says the LORD: "Cursed [is] the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, Whose heart departs from the LORD. 6 For he shall be like a shrub in the desert, And shall not see when good comes, But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, [In] a salt land [which is] not inhabited. 7 "Blessed [is] the man who trusts in the LORD, And whose hope is the LORD. 8 For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters, Which spreads out its roots by the river, And will not fear when heat comes; But its leaf will be green, And will not be anxious in the year of drought, Nor will cease from yielding fruit.

Steven Avery
05-22-2020, 09:05 AM
Stay healthy!
Improve your terrain.

Parks and beaches, as well as the home suggestions above.

Try to have nothing to do with masks, 6’ anti-social distancing nonsense, testing, contact tracing, protocols, ventilators (killing machines) and intubation. The tests, for so-called virus or antibodies, are basically worthless and add to your faux-medicine load.

Esaias
05-22-2020, 10:58 PM
Saw people at WallyWorld wearing their masks - under their noses so they can breathe better.

It's a pandemic of silliness.

jfrog
05-23-2020, 09:41 PM
Saw people at WallyWorld wearing their masks - under their noses so they can breathe better.


I seen that at Lowe's today.

TakingDominion
05-25-2020, 01:07 PM
Test results came back today... Tested positive. My symptoms haven't changed. I'm taking a couple Tylenol a day. Drinking water mostly. Trying to get outside as much as I can. We've been pretty isolated since last week, thankfully.

Amanah
05-25-2020, 01:23 PM
Did your family test positive also? And if not will you need to isolate from them? Asking because I'm concerned how that all works.

hometown guy
05-25-2020, 02:53 PM
Glad it doesn’t sound to severe. Seems to be the normal for 90% of people ... Im interested to see if your family has it too to see how contiguous it is in the home... form what I read about 30% get it it with in the home after one gets it...

TakingDominion
05-25-2020, 03:47 PM
They haven't been tested. It's not really feasible for me to isolate from them. None of them are showing any signs of being sick and I've been infected a little over a week now.

Esaias
05-25-2020, 03:48 PM
All this depends on a test result - when the tests ate about as invalid as a quadriplegic Eskimo in a marathon run across the desert.

coksiw
05-25-2020, 05:25 PM
A distant relative of mine got it. The rest of the household didn’t. They did a good job isolating him in a room, though.

hometown guy
05-25-2020, 08:41 PM
A distant relative of mine got it. The rest of the household didn’t. They did a good job isolating him in a room, though.

Well according to how they make it sound you are contagious even before symptoms so seems everyone would already be exposed by the time symptoms start showing

coksiw
05-25-2020, 09:10 PM
Well according to how they make it sound you are contagious even before symptoms so seems everyone would already be exposed by the time symptoms start showing

It depends how long it takes to show symptoms. How an illness develops and when it starts exactly being contagious depends on many variables. Biology prediction is a complex subject. All we can do is observe it, and document commonalities and patterns.

TakingDominion
05-26-2020, 11:42 AM
Just about everyone from the church that has went to get tested, has tested positive. Noone is seriously sick so far. My cough was a little worse this morning and my throat was sore. My headache and fever are gone. I'm not having any trouble breathing. My family isn't showing any signs of being sick.

hometown guy
05-26-2020, 03:49 PM
Just about everyone from the church that has went to get tested, has tested positive. Noone is seriously sick so far. My cough was a little worse this morning and my throat was sore. My headache and fever are gone. I'm not having any trouble breathing. My family isn't showing any signs of being sick.

I remember when the swine flu went around we had 20 out sick on a Sunday and the 3 that went to the doctor all tested positive for the swine flu so guessing they all had it... church at that time only had about 100 people so it was a huge chunk.

Evang.Benincasa
05-27-2020, 08:40 PM
Some common sense: If the man is symptomatic and tested positive using any method then he likely has it regardless of whatever the hotline tells you. That means due to your vicinity and time spent around him that you have a good chance of having it as well.

Surely you aren't considering going to church to preach after learning this information?

https://www.globalresearch.ca/early-psychological-warfare-research-and-the-rockefeller-foundation/30594

Here is a video of Jfrog calling out for the government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxUmrGsWIQ&ab_channel=SosaiX

lily
06-03-2020, 08:37 PM
Just about everyone from the church that has went to get tested, has tested positive. Noone is seriously sick so far. My cough was a little worse this morning and my throat was sore. My headache and fever are gone. I'm not having any trouble breathing. My family isn't showing any signs of being sick.

I hope you are doing well!

TakingDominion
06-04-2020, 11:29 PM
I hope you are doing well!

Doing great thank you

diakonos
06-05-2020, 12:33 AM
Doing great thank you

Good!

Steven Avery
06-05-2020, 07:00 AM
Doing great thank you
Excellent.

Hopefully, everyone has avoided hospitals. They are very dangerous for your health. They still can be treating this condition as pneumonia, with ventilators and intubation, and in some places, like NYC, many have passed away under their "care". And if you ever do go to a hospital, for any reason, make sure there is a clear "no-vax" command prominent on the front page, in your handwriting. Make sure you retain a copy.

Also, there is a danger of contact tracers, depending on your state and city. They also can be very dangerous. Their goal is to hunt people down and then they can forcibly take them away. However, in the USA that is only in the early stages, my understanding is that Britain is more fascist at this point.

Take any tests with a grain of salt. They really are totally unreliable. The Tanzanian president John Magufuli said that they sent in a goat, quail and a fruit (paw paw, mango) and they got positive results.

Never, ever, take the forthcoming vaccine.

Natural therapies is the way to go .. pro-active and active - in almost all cases.

Stay healthy!

TGBTG
06-05-2020, 11:52 AM
Excellent.

Hopefully, everyone has avoided hospitals. They are very dangerous for your health. They still can be treating this condition as pneumonia, with ventilators and intubation, and in some places, like NYC, many have passed away under their "care". And if you ever do go to a hospital, for any reason, make sure there is a clear "no-vax" command prominent on the front page, in your handwriting. Make sure you retain a copy.

Also, there is a danger of contact tracers, depending on your state and city. They also can be very dangerous. Their goal is to hunt people down and then they can forcibly take them away. However, in the USA that is only in the early stages, my understanding is that Britain is more fascist at this point.

Take any tests with a grain of salt. They really are totally unreliable. The Tanzanian president John Magufuli said that they sent in a goat, quail and a fruit (paw paw, mango) and they got positive results.

Never, ever, take the forthcoming vaccine.

Natural therapies is the way to go .. pro-active and active - in almost all cases.

Stay healthy!
Early stages of forcibly taking people away in the USA for covid?? Good grief..:throwrock

diakonos
06-05-2020, 02:52 PM
Early stages of forcibly taking people away in the USA for covid?? Good grief..:throwrock

:lol

Esaias
06-05-2020, 05:25 PM
Early stages of forcibly taking people away in the USA for covid?? Good grief..:throwrock

You can good grief and throw rocks all you want. BUT it has already been proposed by people in power, and if I am not mistaken has ALREADY HAPPENED in the USA.

The USA you were taught about in school DOES NOT EXIST. Wake up.

We are in the opening stages of a literal VIOLENT MARXIST REVOLUTION/COUP in "the USA" right now. All the tin foil that was talked about from the 1920s to early this year has now been discovered to be in the oven and it's about ready to be taken off and they gonna baste that turkey. Dinner coming up soon.

So, better get you a fork and a knife.

TGBTG
06-05-2020, 06:27 PM
You can good grief and throw rocks all you want. BUT it has already been proposed by people in power, and if I am not mistaken has ALREADY HAPPENED in the USA.

The USA you were taught about in school DOES NOT EXIST. Wake up.

We are in the opening stages of a literal VIOLENT MARXIST REVOLUTION/COUP in "the USA" right now. All the tin foil that was talked about from the 1920s to early this year has now been discovered to be in the oven and it's about ready to be taken off and they gonna baste that turkey. Dinner coming up soon.

So, better get you a fork and a knife.

The problem is none of your stuff happens, and 20 years from now, you’ll be saying the same thing...You say your eschatology is historicism, but for all intents and purpose, you are practically a post trib futurist.

Oh well...

Evang.Benincasa
06-07-2020, 09:27 PM
The problem is none of your stuff happens, and 20 years from now, you’ll be saying the same thing...You say your eschatology is historicism, but for all intents and purpose, you are practically a post trib futurist.

Oh well...

What’s your eschatology?

Esaias
06-08-2020, 02:52 AM
The problem is none of your stuff happens, and 20 years from now, you’ll be saying the same thing...You say your eschatology is historicism, but for all intents and purpose, you are practically a post trib futurist.

Oh well...

LOL it's happening right before your eyes and you are chanting there's no place like home.

Take a knee while you're at it.

TakingDominion
06-08-2020, 10:24 PM
Or start a riot