View Full Version : Scientist says C19 is man-made or a fluke
aegsm76
05-29-2020, 10:10 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8356751/How-COVID-19s-unique-structure-means-man-made.html
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Coronavirus is so 'perfectly adapted' to infect humans that the possibility it was made in a Chinese lab can't be ignored, Australian vaccine researchers conclude.
Professor Nikolai Petrovsky said the virus was better at attaching itself to human cells than to any other animal, explaining why it has infected five million people.
Esaias
05-29-2020, 10:37 AM
Bioweapon... Made in China... that.barely works, if at all.
aegsm76
05-29-2020, 04:41 PM
Bioweapon... Made in China... that.barely works, if at all.
E - I know too many dead and recovering people to say that it barely works.
Was it worth shutting down the economy over?
At this point, I don't know.
But, it is real and can be deadly.
Esaias
05-29-2020, 08:12 PM
E - I know too many dead and recovering people to say that it barely works.
Was it worth shutting down the economy over?
At this point, I don't know.
But, it is real and can be deadly.
You know too many who have died? How many do you know who have died from COVID19? And considering it's now documented and common knowledge that practically everything is being labelled COVID19, and that the tests are completely bogus, just exactly how do you actually know anybody has/had and/or died from "it"?
jfrog
05-31-2020, 12:15 AM
E - I know too many dead and recovering people to say that it barely works.
Was it worth shutting down the economy over?
At this point, I don't know.
But, it is real and can be deadly.
:thumbsup
jfrog
05-31-2020, 12:24 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8356751/How-COVID-19s-unique-structure-means-man-made.html
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Coronavirus is so 'perfectly adapted' to infect humans that the possibility it was made in a Chinese lab can't be ignored, Australian vaccine researchers conclude.
Professor Nikolai Petrovsky said the virus was better at attaching itself to human cells than to any other animal, explaining why it has infected five million people.
The only issue is, the virus wasn't actually genetically altered in a lab.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-05-09/was-the-coronavirus-made-in-a-wuhan-lab-heres-what-the-genetic-evidence-shows
Note - this does not mean they hadn't found that virus in nature and were studying it in the lab and it escaped from the lab. It also doesn't mean they didn't allow numerous independent generations of the virus to evolve in the lab and kept the most dangerous one.
But in all of those possible scenarios they didn't create this coronavirus.
Steven Avery
06-01-2020, 12:07 AM
I know too many dead and recovering people to say that it barely works.... But, it is real and can be deadly. Largely iatrogenic. Ventilators killed thousands, and intubation as well. Wrong treatments, grossly misused.
Rarely, if even, do the institutions do a decent health program, which would utilize the outdoors, Vitamin C, zinc, maybe HCQ. garlic, saunas and compresses, elderberry syrup, good nutrition away from the sugar-carb-poisons SAD, and much, much more. Check the 5G.
They treated the wrong ailment with the wrong protocol. We must follow the protocol.
"The treatment was successful, but the patient died."
Please do not blame the "virus" (a theory of myths) for the lack of health of our vaxxed and confused elderly.
Chris Cuomo, and his wife Christina, recovered easily with natural remedies and his home sauna. His brother the Philosopher-King Andrew closed all the saunas for the peons and serfs. And tries to make people ill with masks, social distancing, lock-downs, etc. Comrade de Blasio has been even worse.
Cuomo did not quarantine those elderly ill, but forced them into the general nursing home, by fiat, demands and threats. When many died, he blamed the nursing homes for following his DEMANDS. You can't make this stuff up.
aegsm76
06-01-2020, 09:37 AM
You know too many who have died? How many do you know who have died from COVID19? And considering it's now documented and common knowledge that practically everything is being labelled COVID19, and that the tests are completely bogus, just exactly how do you actually know anybody has/had and/or died from "it"?
E - Three people that I knew on a personal basis have died.
All were in good health before contracting C19.
Two went down very rapidly and one took around 50 days.
I also knew 3 others (not on a personal level) who died.
And several others who were related to people that I know.
Also had two close relative who were in good health but were very sick after contracting C19. One spent 7 days in the hospital and the other had two visits to the hospital.
Also had several relatives who had it, but have recovered with no problems.
Almost everyone who I know that had it lost their taste and smell, for a while.
It is real, but I am still not sure it was worth shutting down the country over.
aegsm76
06-01-2020, 09:40 AM
And almost forgot. The relative that was in the hospital turned the corner after being put on Hydroxychlorquine and Zithromax.
Esaias
06-01-2020, 09:57 AM
E - Three people that I knew on a personal basis have died.
All were in good health before contracting C19.
Two went down very rapidly and one took around 50 days.
I also knew 3 others (not on a personal level) who died.
And several others who were related to people that I know.
Also had two close relative who were in good health but were very sick after contracting C19. One spent 7 days in the hospital and the other had two visits to the hospital.
Also had several relatives who had it, but have recovered with no problems.
Almost everyone who I know that had it lost their taste and smell, for a while.
It is real, but I am still not sure it was worth shutting down the country over.
But considering the now well known and thoroughly documented utter unreliability of both the tests and the diagnoses of "COVID19" why are you so certain these people all had a "novel coronavirus infection that produced all their symptoms"?
See that's what I am getting at. If voodoo witchdoctors make up a false diagnosis for people with flu like illness and say it's all caused by demons in their cupboards and the treatment is mumbo jumbo and herbal hallucinogenic teas, you wouldn't buy it for a second. How is this any different in any fundamental sense?
You report people losing taste and smell (kind of like what happens every time I've ever had a flu?) and others report vomiting, dry cough, toe discoloration and malforming (you've heard of COVID toes, right?), sudden inexplicable heart attack, stroke, vascular problems... Mmeanwhile people dying from alcohol poisoning are labelled COVID19, flu and pneumonia have practically and magically "disappeared" (redesignated COVID19?) and on and on it goes.
All the experts pushing the deadly pandemic meme are known frauds, liars, hucksters, communists, terrorists, and get paid big bux by China, Bill Gates, and the Clinton Foundation and related known communist front groups and serial liars. And numerous (100s!) of doctors, virologists, epidemiologists, and other health care workers have been exposing the lies, frauds, cover ups from day one. Then they all get censored everywhere. While Fauci himself reports to the NIH that corona is just a seasonal flu. Then gets on tv and scares all the toob watchers half to death. All while NOT wearing any mask or practicing "social distancing" himself.
I mean come on, this whole thing has S.C.A.M. written all over it.
Esaias
06-01-2020, 10:05 AM
And as many warned us months ago, since the coronaflu didn't result in what they wanted, they are now going with orchestrated riots. The same people condemning peaceful protests against the illegal lockdowns are openly supporting mass looting and rioting over a completely manufactured nothingburger.
And ALL of this scenario was planned and drilled months and years in advance. It's a very real overthrow of what's left of America, a foreign funded and subversive supported treasonous series of well planned and coordinated operations to destabilise the nation, destroy the economy, and pave the way for a globalist geopolitical order with China as the primary economic driver (aka international socialism aka COMMUNISM). We're in the final stages of the global communist Long March which began with WW1.
We as a nation were warned REPEATEDLY for literally a CENTURY but not enough people took it seriously. And still don't.
Once is a fluke. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. We're at three to the nth exponent now.
n david
06-08-2020, 10:15 AM
The hope that the dry and hot temps here in AZ would banish 'Rona was dashed as this past Friday recorded the largest number of positive results in AZ. Banner Health system has stated their ICU is at capacity.
My niece is a nurse with BH and said her hospital ER has been overwhelmed with new cases.
I'm ready for 2020 to end.
Friday evening we went to pick up some groceries and dinner and at 7pm in a metro, almost everything was shut down due to the curfew our Gov had in effect because of the riots and protests. The box stores and grocery stores shut down early to allow their employees time to get home before the 8pm curfew. It was ridiculous.
Evang.Benincasa
06-08-2020, 10:18 AM
The hope that the dry and hot temps here in AZ would banish 'Rona was dashed as this past Friday recorded the largest number of positive results in AZ. Banner Health system has stated their ICU is at capacity.
My niece is a nurse with BH and said her hospital ER has been overwhelmed with new cases.
I'm ready for 2020 to end.
Friday evening we went to pick up some groceries and dinner and at 7pm in a metro, almost everything was shut down due to the curfew our Gov had in effect because of the riots and protests. The box stores and grocery stores shut down early to allow their employees time to get home before the 8pm curfew. It was ridiculous.
Hey when did you move to Fort Lauderdale?
n david
06-08-2020, 10:39 AM
Hey when did you move to Fort Lauderdale?
Haha
I felt like I was back in small-town midwest. Except for the traffic. The nearby QT gas station was PACKED out after curfew because all the stores were closed.
coksiw
06-08-2020, 12:41 PM
Haha
I felt like I was back in small-town midwest. Except for the traffic. The nearby QT gas station was PACKED out after curfew because all the stores were closed.
The curfew ended today at 530am here in AZ.
n david
06-08-2020, 02:11 PM
The curfew ended today at 530am here in AZ.
Yeah, I was looking for any announcement of an extension, but so far I haven't found any.
Glad it's over.
Evang.Benincasa
06-08-2020, 06:39 PM
What’s this curfew for again?
n david
06-09-2020, 07:51 AM
What’s this curfew for again?
It was due to the protests and rioting.
Esaias
06-11-2020, 04:14 AM
https://www.twitter.com/SSG_PAIN/status/1270930181037801472?s=20
KeptByTheWord
06-11-2020, 11:54 AM
I'm waiting for the next "catastrophe" to appear. This one isn't really getting the results they are wanting. The riots and Seattle stunt is going to backfire. They're going to try something else. Buckle your seatbelts.
coksiw
06-11-2020, 01:34 PM
https://www.twitter.com/SSG_PAIN/status/1270930181037801472?s=20
My neighbors daughter had covid symptoms, including fever but three tests came back negative. The forth test was positive.
Another member in our church was also with a fever for two weeks, and coughing. Doctors told him they were convinced he had COVID, but two tests came back negative. He is recovered now.
There was a virus around before COVID that had very similar symptoms as COVID, that my wife and kids had. It includes fever, and persistent cough. The influenza test would come back negative. My wife also did the COVID antibody test and came back negative.
There was/is something else going around that it was not COVID or influenza, but not as deadly.
Another elder in our church got it and had bad pneumonia.
Esaias
06-11-2020, 02:57 PM
I'm waiting for the next "catastrophe" to appear. This one isn't really getting the results they are wanting. The riots and Seattle stunt is going to backfire. They're going to try something else. Buckle your seatbelts.
Asteroids from outer spaaaaaaaaaaaaace!!!!!!!!
Esaias
06-13-2020, 12:41 AM
UK whistle blower- 97% of corona vaccine recipients will become infertile.
https://lbry.tv/@JohnThor:0/Heavily-Censored-Video---The-Corona-Vaccine-is-Planned-Population-Reduction:4?fbclid=IwAR1L2ppvz0plw0mDpTOfeNDkHav7F Bouwg7rXEYhnyBbU1okThXFowMw9-8
Nicodemus1968
06-13-2020, 05:55 AM
- 97% of recipients of the corona vaccine will become infertile.
- male frogs have become gay
- chemicals in juice boxes are giving men breasts
- Adolf Hitler is alive and well in South America.
- FEMA camps have been set up in America
:itsover
TGBTG
06-13-2020, 12:14 PM
- 97% of recipients of the corona vaccine will become infertile.
- male frogs have become gay
- chemicals in juice boxes are giving men breasts
- Adolf Hitler is alive and well in South America.
- FEMA camps have been set up in America
:itsover
:highfive
Evang.Benincasa
06-14-2020, 06:26 PM
- 97% of recipients of the corona vaccine will become infertile.
- male frogs have become gay
- chemicals in juice boxes are giving men breasts
- Adolf Hitler is alive and well in South America.
- FEMA camps have been set up in America
:itsover
Xenoestrogens are real Hoss.
You can't laugh that off when you look in the mirror after a shower. :lol
james34
06-14-2020, 07:41 PM
:highfive
You forgot the riots and BLM events are because there is no systemic race problem
james34
06-14-2020, 07:44 PM
- 97% of recipients of the corona vaccine will become infertile.
- male frogs have become gay
- chemicals in juice boxes are giving men breasts
- Adolf Hitler is alive and well in South America.
- FEMA camps have been set up in America
:itsover
And there is a systemic race problem in the U.S.
Nicodemus1968
06-14-2020, 07:57 PM
Xenoestrogens are real Hoss.
You can't laugh that off when you look in the mirror after a shower. :lol
Then brother I suggest you throw away juice boxes, and all plastic material in your home. :heeheehee
Nicodemus1968
06-14-2020, 07:58 PM
And there is a systemic race problem in the U.S.
Not a race problem, just a slavery problem almost black folk.
Jito463
06-14-2020, 08:27 PM
You forgot the riots and BLM events are because there is no systemic race problem
And there is a systemic race problem in the U.S.
No, there's no "systemic racism" problem in the US. That's a false narrative ginned up by the media. What's your evidence for making such a claim? The police shootings?
Last year, there were more than 1,000 people shot by the police, and only 250 of those were black. The vast majority of those were proven to be justifiable. Out of those, only NINE black males were shot while unarmed (and that's a very broadly defined meaning of "unarmed"), wherein five were undoubtedly justified (they were attacking the police), two were determined to be justified, one is still under investigation and one more led to the firing of the officer.
Meanwhile, there were NINETEEN white males shot by the police while unarmed (that's more than twice as many, if you're mathematically challenged). Why are there no riots over those deaths?
I'm not saying cops can't abuse their power, and we should definitely hold them accountable for their actions, but there is zero evidence that the problem is "systemic". For that to be true, the entire system would have to be specifically designed to oppress non-whites, which it is not.
Evang.Benincasa
06-14-2020, 09:40 PM
Then brother I suggest you throw away juice boxes, and all plastic material in your home. :heeheehee
Nostradamus1986, xenoestrogens are real bro, I suggest you look into it. Half of the things you mentioned in your list may or may not have merit. But, if you just mock it without knowledge you look like the fool when someone serves it back at you. But, you go right ahead, I just hope you don't start lactating while you preach.
Esaias
06-15-2020, 03:04 AM
We are going to get what we deserve, as a society.
Too much class-a stupidity.
Nicodemus1968
06-15-2020, 05:45 AM
Nostradamus1986, xenoestrogens are real bro, I suggest you look into it. Half of the things you mentioned in your list may or may not have merit. But, if you just mock it without knowledge you look like the fool when someone serves it back at you. But, you go right ahead, I just hope you don't start lactating while you preach.
I guarantee you if I start lactating while I preach, I’ll start believing Hitler is alive in South America.
Evang.Benincasa
06-15-2020, 10:25 PM
I guarantee you if I start lactating while I preach, I’ll start believing Hitler is alive in South America.
Listen, what we tend to disbelieve is what we have no idea about. Hitler escaping to Argentina? Isn't as far fetched as one would think. Is he still alive? He would be 131 years old. So, which is more amazing that he escaped the bunker, and landed in Argentina? Or that he is 131 years old? Joseph Mengele managed to make it to Argentina, but all that Boys from Brazil scenario is where vivid imaginations take over. Make things sound stupid. Just because you never looked into something doesn't make it impossible, or not true. So, again, make sure you exercise regularly, lift heavy weights, and watch your weight. Because you may start believing in Hitler speaking Spanish, and eating eating Argentinian steaks.
Esaias
06-18-2020, 09:08 PM
EMPTY COFFINS – EMPTY HOSPITAL – Brazilian MPs Expose Biggest Covid-19 Hoax Known to Date
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/06/empty-coffins-empty-hospital-brazilian-mps-expose-biggest-covid-19-hoax-known-to-date/
n david
06-19-2020, 08:40 AM
"A church in northeast Oregon has been linked to the state’s largest single coronavirus outbreak to date, authorities confirmed, pushing daily counts to reach new records.
The outbreak at Lighthouse United Pentecostal Church in Union County’s Island City was linked to at least 236 COVID-19 cases, the deputy state epidemiologist, Tom Jeanne, confirmed."
https://www.foxnews.com/health/latest-oregon-coronavirus-outbreak-linked-to-church-authorities-say
diakonos
06-19-2020, 08:41 AM
That’s rough.
n david
06-19-2020, 08:44 AM
There's no way this is a natural disease.
AZ cases are still spiking. My Mayor is signing an order today requiring masks in public. I won't be going out much because I can't breathe after extended use in those things. Someone said, wear a light cloth mask ... what's the good in that?!? Last I read, the CDC keeps changing its mind over whether they actually do anything.
I'm done with 2020.
Esaias
06-19-2020, 02:25 PM
There's no way this is a natural disease.
AZ cases are still spiking. My Mayor is signing an order today requiring masks in public. I won't be going out much because I can't breathe after extended use in those things. Someone said, wear a light cloth mask ... what's the good in that?!? Last I read, the CDC keeps changing its mind over whether they actually do anything.
I'm done with 2020.
It's a scam. And, 2020 isn't done with any of us, yet...
diakonos
06-19-2020, 06:31 PM
Yeah, catching a virus is a scam.
Nicodemus1968
06-19-2020, 06:39 PM
Yeah, catching a virus is a scam.
Thats funny isn’t it. Not that you had the virus.
It’s a scam, the virus isn’t real... until we know someone that had it, then its no longer “make believe”. Or, someone that had it reminds them to come back to reality from their clouded life of conspiracy.
There is a gentleman that I believe had the virus back in November. He is going to the church we are converting, he was soo sick, had to go to the hospital, was sick for like 10 days straight. He made the comment, it was the worst form of the flu he has ever gotten. And we didn't know anything about Covid, or Wuhan flu then.
diakonos
06-19-2020, 09:15 PM
Thats funny isn’t it. Not that you had the virus.
It’s a scam, the virus isn’t real... until we know someone that had it, then its no longer “make believe”. Or, someone that had it reminds them to come back to reality from their clouded life of conspiracy.
There is a gentleman that I believe had the virus back in November. He is going to the church we are converting, he was soo sick, had to go to the hospital, was sick for like 10 days straight. He made the comment, it was the worst form of the flu he has ever gotten. And we didn't know anything about Covid, or Wuhan flu then.
Yeah... it was a scam that I was hospitalized. Scam that 3 coworkers and 3 roommates tested positive.
A scam that my aunt in Tennessee was recently hospitalized with covid.
A scam that Sis. Alvear’s son Michael was hospitalized with covid.
Huge scam that preachers are dying of covid.
Huge scam because YouTube videos say so.
Esaias
06-19-2020, 09:36 PM
Yeah, catching a virus is a scam.
Suppose I told you that what happened to you was you just had a vitamin deficiency, and lo and behold I sell the very vitamin you need? "Shuh, yeah, vitamin deficiency is a scam. Shuh, right!"
My point is that there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that there is something called "the coronavirus/SARS-COV" whatever they want to call it. There is PLENTY (big heap plenty) evidence that the entire "COVID19 pandemic" IS a scam, perpetuated for political and financial purposes, by people and organisations that are PROVEN LIARS AND SCAMMERS.
So you get sick, go to a doctor and take a "test", and are told "You got the Wuhan Flu, bro." So, let's look at the test. What test was it? Who developed it? Shall we ignore the fact that the very people creating and marketing these tests admit they have up to an 80% FALSE POSITIVE RATE? That they routinely detect ANY coronavirus and spit out a positive? There are hundreds of coronaviruses, are there not? And what about the fact that the tests themselves have NEVER BEEN PROVEN OR DEMONSTRATED TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY A VIRUS, of ANY KIND WHATSOEVER? And what about the fact that the people telling us there is a pandemic, telling us to all wear masks all the time, to "social distance ourselves", are the same people who have decided that communist antigovernment destablising protests, rioting, looting, and general criminal anarchy, are somehow NOT A BIG ISSUE? The coronavirus is a progressive democrat virus? Really?
How about the people who told us there is a pandemic, told us to wear masks, then quietly point out that wearing masks not only does nothing to prevent the spread of any virus, but actually long term creates the very symptoms of the virus due to lowered oxygen uptake into the lungs? OR how about the fact the people who told us there is a terrible pandemic that will wipe out humanity therefore we need to destroy the nations' economies and ruin millions upon millions of lives, have also noted in their medical journals that never seem to get reported by the main stream media that this pandemic is actually no more of an issue than a bad seasonal flu?
I mean it just goes on and on and on.
You got sick. You got a test. You got told you have COVID19. You might as well have went to the santero and let them kill a chicken and tell you you have a bad orisha. They'd actually probably be a little bit more accurate than the clowns in the white coats.
Esaias
06-19-2020, 09:41 PM
Yeah... it was a scam that I was hospitalized. Scam that 3 coworkers and 3 roommates tested positive.
A scam that my aunt in Tennessee was recently hospitalized with covid.
A scam that Sis. Alvear’s son Michael was hospitalized with covid.
Huge scam that preachers are dying of covid.
Huge scam because YouTube videos say so.
Sister Alvear? Isn't she in Brazil? Oh yeah, Brazil, where members of Parliament literally broke into a hospital there that was claiming it was overflowing with COVID patients, and found out the hospital was literally EMPTY and had no patients and wasn't even fully built? That the hospital administrators/owners were just raking in the cash for "COVID" treatments but the whole thing was literally a scam?
How about the numerous hospitals in the US that were reporting they were overflowing with COVID patients and people go to the hospital and discover the hospital is practically dead and nobody there has seen any COVID patients?
Good grief, you people will believe whatever you are told as long as it even remotely LOOKS like an authority figure.
Evang.Benincasa
06-21-2020, 09:16 AM
Yeah... it was a scam that I was hospitalized. Scam that 3 coworkers and 3 roommates tested positive.
A scam that my aunt in Tennessee was recently hospitalized with covid.
A scam that Sis. Alvear’s son Michael was hospitalized with covid.
Huge scam that preachers are dying of covid.
Huge scam because YouTube videos say so.
Bro, honestly, I stopped reading the news local and abroad. Stop listening to the radio, haven't watched any videos concerning news. So, I'm only focused with what is going on around me. Which is some mask wearing where it is mandatory. I have no relatives who have contracted this virus, no relatives or friends who have been hospitalized due to this virus. Brother Thomas Burk who recently passed away came up negative when tested for COVID 19. So I have no personal preacher friends who have recently died from COVID 19. Myself I haven't contracted this virus, neither anyone in my family. I deal with people everyday since the pandemic became popular. I love you, and I pray for you that you get over the virus with more strength. But you have to please forgive those around you who see this as more than a virus pandemic issue. Again, if I was stepping over the dead when I walked out my front door and if carrion birds were darkening the skies of Broward and Dade. I would see this with greater earnest, that it was indeed an issue where strong measures must be employed. But, I'm just not seeing it, and when I was posting with all of you while the circus act was raging on, in the media, I needed to stand back and look. This is more hype than hysteria. Rule by fear is the words which every dictatorship or government is focused on. This country is in trouble. It isn't just because of its decadence, and debauchery. It is because its lazy, stupid and very superstitious. I'm not saying that you are like those who believe in the goblins under every pew, or in every televised news report. I'm just saying when we back up from something and not allow ourselves to be filled with scary bed time stories which the news is so skilled at telling. We may get a different perspective. I think that is what is needful right now. Is it a scam? I believe it is more complicated that just saying that. I believe we have some dire things coming down the road. In which will be a surprise. But we are the frog in the kettle right now. The water is comfortable. Please forgive me, and I hope all will go well for you, your friends and your family members.
Evang.Benincasa
06-21-2020, 09:33 AM
Good grief, you people will believe whatever you are told as long as it even remotely LOOKS like an authority figure.
This is because we are group thinkers. Through laziness we follow the herd. Nothing has changed, going all the way back to ancient kings. They were the mouthpiece Of God, they were divinely seated, they were divinely chosen. The cast system in India is based and created from this. We still have it firmly in place today. So, we shut up and do what we are told, because it is our fate to do so. Be a good plebeian, a good machine, learn by the numbers. Edward Bernays became famous by teaching media how to sell. Teaching politicians how to convince people that they really care about us. Now it is a perfected art. An art where people can't even begin to question what is going on. Because they really don't know what questions to ask.
Churches locked their doors because of the lion might be in the streets. Then they left their buildings because they were told the lion may be in the building. We are currently floating in the water, we have no idea when the water will be turned up, or even realize it when it gets to full boil.
n david
06-22-2020, 03:26 PM
Yeah, catching a virus is a scam.
Thats funny isn’t it. Not that you had the virus.
It’s a scam, the virus isn’t real... until we know someone that had it, then its no longer “make believe”. Or, someone that had it reminds them to come back to reality from their clouded life of conspiracy.
There is a gentleman that I believe had the virus back in November. He is going to the church we are converting, he was soo sick, had to go to the hospital, was sick for like 10 days straight. He made the comment, it was the worst form of the flu he has ever gotten. And we didn't know anything about Covid, or Wuhan flu then.
Yeah... it was a scam that I was hospitalized. Scam that 3 coworkers and 3 roommates tested positive.
A scam that my aunt in Tennessee was recently hospitalized with covid.
A scam that Sis. Alvear’s son Michael was hospitalized with covid.
Huge scam that preachers are dying of covid.
Huge scam because YouTube videos say so.
I have personally met two Pastors and an Evangelist who have died from the Chinese WuhanVirus.
I know/have met several more who have fallen ill and either fully recovered or are in the hospital.
The disease isn't a scam. It's real. This isn't the typical "seasonal" flu. It's not common for someone to get the flu in the summer months, much less for hundreds of thousands here to get it. I don't believe this is a naturally occurring disease. I believe this was either lab-created or modified.
The scam is the hysteria and fomenting of fear from the media and medical institutions like the CDC.
diakonos
06-22-2020, 04:10 PM
I have personally met two Pastors and an Evangelist who have died from the Chinese WuhanVirus.
I know/have met several more who have fallen ill and either fully recovered or are in the hospital.
The disease isn't a scam. It's real. This isn't the typical "seasonal" flu. It's not common for someone to get the flu in the summer months, much less for hundreds of thousands here to get it. I don't believe this is a naturally occurring disease. I believe this was either lab-created or modified.
The scam is the hysteria and fomenting of fear from the media and medical institutions like the CDC.
Right. But a YouTube video says that there’s no evidence covid exists so “YOU people” believe anything by a supposedly authority figure.
n david
06-22-2020, 08:04 PM
Right. But a YouTube video says that there’s no evidence covid exists so “YOU people” believe anything by a supposedly authority figure.
Don’t people know not to believe everything you read/see on the interwebs???.
james34
06-22-2020, 08:09 PM
Suppose the virus is real and man made or man altered, and suppose you had a government that would purposely spread it around the country to create the need for government overreach. Suppose you knew this was the case. What would your reaction be? Would you adhere to the governments every command, knowing all the while your country and freedoms were being ripped away. Even more appalling is the call for silence. Dont say anything or its fear mongering.
james34
06-22-2020, 08:15 PM
Military test Edit
From September 20 to 27, 1950, the U.S. Navy released the pathogens off the shore of San Francisco. Based on results from monitoring equipment at 43 locations around the city, the Army determined that San Francisco had received enough of a dose for nearly all of the city's 800,000 residents to inhale at least 5,000 of the particles.[1][2][3]
Illnesses Edit
On October 11, 1950, eleven residents checked into Stanford Hospital for very rare, serious urinary tract infections. Although ten residents recovered, one patient, Edward J. Nevin, died three weeks later. None of the other hospitals in the city reported similar spikes in cases, and all 11 victims had urinary-tract infections following medical procedures, suggesting that the source of their infections lay inside the hospital.[1] Cases of pneumonia in San Francisco also increased after Serratia marcescens was released, though a causal relation has not been conclusively established.[4][5] The bacterium was also combined with phenol and an anthrax simulant and sprayed across south Dorset by US and UK military scientists as part of the DICE trials which ran from 1971 to 1975.[1][6]
The urinary tract outbreak was so unusual that the Stanford doctors wrote it up for a medical journal.[3]
There was no evidence that the Army had alerted health authorities before it blanketed the region with bacteria. Doctors later wondered whether the experiment might be responsible for heart valve infections around the same time as well as serious infections seen among intravenous drug users in the 1960s and 1970s.[7]
Senate subcommittee hearings Edit
In 1977 Senate subcommittee hearings, the U.S. Army disclosed the existence of the tests. Army officials noted the pneumonia outbreak in their testimony but said any link to their experiments was totally coincidental. The Army pointed out that no other hospitals reported similar outbreaks and all 11 victims had urinary-tract infections following medical procedures, suggesting that the source of their infections lay inside the hospital.[1]
Lawsuit Edit
In 1981 Nevin's surviving family members filed suit against the federal government, alleging negligence and responsibility for the death of Edward J. Nevin, as well as financial and emotional harm caused to Mr. Nevin's wife from the medical costs.
The lower court ruled against them primarily because the bacteria used in the test was unproven to be responsible for Mr. Nevin's death. The Nevin family appealed the suit all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which declined to overturn lower court judgments.[1][8][9]
Similar tests Edit
In Senate subcommittee hearings in 1977 the Army revealed:
Between 1949 and 1969 open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times. In 80 of those experiments, the Army said it used live bacteria that its researchers at the time thought were harmless. In the others, it used inert chemicals to simulate bacteria.
In the 1950s army researchers dispersed Serratia on Panama City and Key West Florida with no known illnesses resulting.
In the 1950s army researchers dispersed zinc cadmium sulfide (now a known cancer-causing agent) over Minnesota and other Midwestern states to see how far they would spread in the atmosphere. The particles were detected more than 1,000 miles away in New York state.
Bacillus globigii, never shown to be harmful to people, was released in San Francisco, New York, Washington, D.C., and along the Pennsylvania Turnpike, among other places.
In New York, military researchers in 1966 spread Bacillus subtilis variant Niger, also believed to be harmless, in the subway system by dropping lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto tracks in stations in midtown Manhattan. The bacteria were carried for miles throughout the subway system. Army officials concluded in a January 1968 report that: "Similar covert attacks with a pathogenic disease-causing agent during peak traffic periods could be expected to expose large numbers of people to infection and subsequent illness or death."
In a May 1965 secret release of Bacillus globigii at Washington's National Airport and its Greyhound Lines bus terminal more than 130 passengers were exposed to the bacteria traveling to 39 cities in seven states in the two weeks following the mock attack.[1
james34
06-22-2020, 08:19 PM
] By January 1942, he had decided that the Jews, Slavs, and other deportees considered undesirable should be killed.[332][e]
Hitler's order for Aktion T4, dated 1 September 1939
The genocide was organised and executed by Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich. The records of the Wannsee Conference, held on 20 January 1942 and led by Heydrich, with fifteen senior Nazi officials participating, provide the clearest evidence of systematic planning for the Holocaust. On 22 February, Hitler was recorded saying, "we shall regain our health only by eliminating the Jews".[333] Similarly, at a meeting in July 1941 with leading functionaries of the Eastern territories, Hitler said that the easiest way to quickly pacify the areas would be best achieved by "shooting everyone who even looks odd".[334] Although no direct order from Hitler authorising the mass killings has surfaced,[335] his public speeches, orders to his generals, and the diaries of Nazi officials demonstrate that he conceived and authorised the extermination of European Jewry.[336][337] During the war, Hitler repeatedly stated his prophecy of 1939 was being fulfilled, namely, that a world war would bring about the annihilation of the Jewish race.[338] Hitler approved the Einsatzgruppen—killing squads that followed the German army through Poland, the Baltic, and the Soviet Union[339]—and was well informed about their activities.[336][340] By summer 1942, Auschwitz concentration camp was expanded to accommodate large numbers of deportees for killing or enslavement.[341] Scores of other concentration camps and satellite camps were set up throughout Europe, with several camps devoted exclusively to extermination.[342]
Between 1939 and 1945, the Schutzstaffel (SS), assisted by collaborationist governments and recruits from occupied countries, was responsible for the deaths of at least eleven million non-combatants,[343][329] including about 6 million Jews (representing two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe),[344][f] and between 200,000 and 1,500,000 Romani people.[346][344] Deaths took place in concentration and extermination camps, ghettos, and through mass executions. Many victims of the Holocaust were gassed to death, while others died of starvation or disease or while working as slave labourers.[347] In addition to eliminating Jews, the Nazis planned to reduce the population of the conquered territories by 30 million people through starvation in an action called the Hunger Plan. Food supplies would be diverted to the German army and German civilians. Cities would be razed and the land allowed to return to forest or resettled by German colonists.[348] Together, the Hunger Plan and Generalplan Ost would have led to the starvation of 80 million people in the Soviet Union.[349] These partially fulfilled plans resulted in additional deaths, bringing the total number of civilians and prisoners of war who died in the democide to an estimated 19.3 million people.[350]
Hitler's policies resulted in the killing of nearly two million non-Jewish Polish civilians,[351] over three million Soviet prisoners of war,[352] communists and other political opponents, homosexuals, the physically and mentally disabled,[353][354] Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists, and trade unionists. Hitler did not speak publicly about the killings, and seems never to have visited the concentration camps.[355]
The Nazis embraced the concept of racial hygiene. On 15 September 1935, Hitler presented two laws—known as the Nuremberg Laws—to the Reichstag. The laws banned sexual relations and marriages between Aryans and Jews and were later extended to include "Gypsies, Negroes or their bastard offspring".[356] The laws stripped all non-Aryans of their German citizenship and forbade the employment of non-Jewish women under the age of 45 in Jewish households.[357] Hitler's early eugenic policies targeted children with physical and developmental disabilities in a programme dubbed Action Brandt, and he later authorised a euthanasia programme for adults with serious mental and physical disabilities, now referred to as
Esaias
06-22-2020, 11:57 PM
Suppose the virus is real and man made or man altered, and suppose you had a government that would purposely spread it around the country to create the need for government overreach. Suppose you knew this was the case. What would your reaction be? Would you adhere to the governments every command, knowing all the while your country and freedoms were being ripped away. Even more appalling is the call for silence. Dont say anything or its fear mongering.
It's fascinating. On the one hand the government and media are pathological liars, but on the other hand there's a pandemic because the government and media said so.
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james34
06-23-2020, 06:52 AM
It's fascinating. On the one hand the government and media are pathological liars, but on the other hand there's a pandemic because the government and media said so.
http://mortentolboll.weebly.com/uploads/6/3/9/3/6393206/14_2_orig.png
I've spent countless hours and innumerable posts it seems to say the above , this is the reality we are in.
mfblume
06-23-2020, 01:28 PM
Right. But a YouTube video says that there’s no evidence covid exists so “YOU people” believe anything by a supposedly authority figure.
I have a whole family who follows my ministry who are struck with COVID-19 with about 60 in their church who likewise got it. They asked for much prayer.
n david
06-23-2020, 02:32 PM
Suppose the virus is real and man made or man altered, and suppose you had a government that would purposely spread it around the country to create the need for government overreach. Suppose you knew this was the case. What would your reaction be? Would you adhere to the governments every command, knowing all the while your country and freedoms were being ripped away. Even more appalling is the call for silence. Dont say anything or its fear mongering.
Except this originated in China and is global.
diakonos
06-23-2020, 02:46 PM
I have a whole family who follows my ministry who are struck with COVID-19 with about 60 in their church who likewise got it. They asked for much prayer.
Pray their cases aren’t severe.
james34
06-24-2020, 09:46 PM
Except this originated in China and is global.
Ok so you dont want to play.
Evang.Benincasa
06-27-2020, 06:34 AM
What’s the game?
n david
07-06-2020, 02:23 PM
Makes no sense that a type of flu is exploding the way it is in Arizona in the middle of summer and 100-degree weather.
Two couples in my mother's small church have COVID19
At least 3 people from my church tested positive for COVID19
There are several others within the past week alone who have tested positive, a couple people are seriously ill -- one of whom is on a ventilator which is never good.
I'm frustrated and sick of it.
Sick of hearing about social distancing
Sick of masks
Sick of daily virus numbers
Sick of the barrage of bad news
Sick of wondering if/when I'll catch it
Sick of reading/hearing about churches having outbreaks
Sick of all the conference, camp meeting, and convention cancellations
Sick of the feeling I get when I read/hear of someone being put on a ventilator
At some point it would be great if this, too, would pass.
coksiw
07-06-2020, 03:20 PM
Makes no sense that a type of flu is exploding the way it is in Arizona in the middle of summer and 100-degree weather.
Two couples in my mother's small church have COVID19
At least 3 people from my church tested positive for COVID19
There are several others within the past week alone who have tested positive, a couple people are seriously ill -- one of which is on a ventilator which is never good.
I'm frustrated and sick of it.
Sick of hearing about social distancing
Sick of masks
Sick of daily virus numbers
Sick of the barrage of bad news
Sick of wondering if/when I'll catch it
Sick of reading/hearing about churches having outbreaks
Sick of all the conference, camp meeting, and convention cancellations
Sick of the feeling I get when I read/hear of someone being put on a ventilator
At some point it would be great if this, too, would pass.
My Church had 25 families affected by covid, three or four elders hospitalized. Two critical on ventilators. We haven't had services for 3 Sundays now.
n david
07-06-2020, 03:52 PM
My Church had 25 families affected by covid, three or four elders hospitalized. Two critical on ventilators. We haven't had services for 3 Sundays now.
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Esaias
07-06-2020, 07:50 PM
People all over the country (and apparently in the UK as well) are signing up to get tested. After waiting in line for an hour plus they decide to leave. So no test. Then they get notified they tested positive.
In related news, it has now come out how they are counting cases: if you are SUSPECTED (not CONFIRMED) to have coronaflu, they contact trace people you were in contact with and COUNT THEM AS COVID19 CASES. No tests needed. Plus, if you get tested, test positive, then take a confirmatory test, that counts as TWO CASES added to the statistics.
Meanwhile states are mandating masks everywhere but the WHO has stated they are practically useless and are NOT recommended.
The entire thing is a FARCE. The MAJORITY of coronadeaths are in nursing homes, people who are dying already anyway. The tests themselves are contaminated. The tests have up to an 80% false positive rate. The antibody tests result in positive if you EVER HAD A COLD OR FLU FROM ANY OF ABOUT 300 CORONAVIRUSES. The standard treatment (ventilator plus DNR order) practically guarantees the patient's death. News reports of overwhelmed ICUs in Houston get corrected by hospital admin saying they are running at NORMAL CAPACITY but the news never reports THAT.
Welcome to Soviet style mind controlled Amerika.
Esaias
07-06-2020, 08:09 PM
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
According to the latest immunological and serological studies, the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1% and thus in the range of a strong seasonal influenza (flu).
In countries like the US, the UK, and also Sweden (without a lockdown), overall mortality since the beginning of the year is in the range of a strong influenza season; in countries like Germany, Austria and Switzerland, overall mortality is in the range of a mild influenza season.
Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general population of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car ride to work. The risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild or no symptoms were not taken into account.
KeptByTheWord
07-07-2020, 11:31 PM
I have close family members who have had the covid. They all report it being the STRANGEST thing they have ever had. It is like the flu in one sense, but really not like the flu with all the other symptoms. One family member had to be hospitalized with chest pain, two other family members hospitalized for severe pneumonia; thankfully all have recovered.
Whatever is going on... this thing is NOT like the flu, but has been altered to affect parts of the body that the flu typically never does. Some members of the family reported weird body pains, extreme fatigue, blue toes, extreme back pain, and bands of chest tightness. Then there are the typical symptoms associated with this virus including the cough, sore throat, headache, loss of taste/smell etc.
Whatever went on in China to manufacture this thing... we need to be aware that there is no doubt something they will try next, since this one while being a strange dose, and fatal in some cases, has not had the predicted death rate.
KeptByTheWord
07-07-2020, 11:33 PM
Makes no sense that a type of flu is exploding the way it is in Arizona in the middle of summer and 100-degree weather.
Two couples in my mother's small church have COVID19
At least 3 people from my church tested positive for COVID19
There are several others within the past week alone who have tested positive, a couple people are seriously ill -- one of whom is on a ventilator which is never good.
I'm frustrated and sick of it.
Sick of hearing about social distancing
Sick of masks
Sick of daily virus numbers
Sick of the barrage of bad news
Sick of wondering if/when I'll catch it
Sick of reading/hearing about churches having outbreaks
Sick of all the conference, camp meeting, and convention cancellations
Sick of the feeling I get when I read/hear of someone being put on a ventilator
At some point it would be great if this, too, would pass.
I'm sick of it too. But... it could be a lot worse. I have a dreadful feeling that something far worse is on the horizon, since this thing has not had the predicted death rates initially given.
n david
07-08-2020, 11:07 AM
Whatever is going on... this thing is NOT like the flu, but has been altered to affect parts of the body that the flu typically never does. Some members of the family reported weird body pains, extreme fatigue, blue toes, extreme back pain, and bands of chest tightness. Then there are the typical symptoms associated with this virus including the cough, sore throat, headache, loss of taste/smell etc.
I've never been tested, though I wonder if I had this in January or even a mild case recently. Over the past month I've had some weird stuff going on but never any fever or even elevated temps.
For a couple weeks straight last month, I was having pains and tightness in my chest. It felt like deep bone or muscle aches. Sometimes it was in my sternum. Sometimes it would move to my pecs or the bottom of my rib cage. Sometimes on the side of my rib cage.
The past week I've had a new issue -- my joints hurt when I wake up in the morning. Elbow joints are the most painful, though my knee has hurt a few times as well. I turn 44 tomorrow, so I know I'm getting older and these things happen.
I've had many mornings with a sore throat that cleared up by early afternoon. I've had a ton of throat gunk and a lot of what I believe is normal stuffiness.
A friend from church tested positive. He lost taste/smell and had a low-grade fever for a day. He told me he's had worst seasonal flu or colds.
Another friend who tested positive said it was the worst thing he's ever experienced. Thought he was going to die. He had a lot of respiratory issues and had to be on oxygen but thankfully wasn't vented.
Symptoms are all over the map. Those I know personally who tested positive have some things in common, but the severity and symptoms vary.
Evang.Benincasa
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
How many months you all been talking about this?
Edward Bernays would be proud.
No one in my family, no one that I know personally, no one on the job, no one I have meant recently, has, or had COVID 19. Good God in Zion, turn off the television, shut off YouTube, get out of FaceBook. Hasn't had church in three Sundays???? Sweet love of God, this country deserves Joe Biden, and Donald Trump. They both should be president, and bring Barack Obama back to finish it off. I wonder how you all would fare without being on the internet one one week. :heeheehee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxUmrGsWIQ
KeptByTheWord
07-08-2020, 11:49 PM
I've never been tested, though I wonder if I had this in January or even a mild case recently. Over the past month I've had some weird stuff going on but never any fever or even elevated temps.
For a couple weeks straight last month, I was having pains and tightness in my chest. It felt like deep bone or muscle aches. Sometimes it was in my sternum. Sometimes it would move to my pecs or the bottom of my rib cage. Sometimes on the side of my rib cage.
The past week I've had a new issue -- my joints hurt when I wake up in the morning. Elbow joints are the most painful, though my knee has hurt a few times as well. I turn 44 tomorrow, so I know I'm getting older and these things happen.
I've had many mornings with a sore throat that cleared up by early afternoon. I've had a ton of throat gunk and a lot of what I believe is normal stuffiness.
A friend from church tested positive. He lost taste/smell and had a low-grade fever for a day. He told me he's had worst seasonal flu or colds.
Another friend who tested positive said it was the worst thing he's ever experienced. Thought he was going to die. He had a lot of respiratory issues and had to be on oxygen but thankfully wasn't vented.
Symptoms are all over the map. Those I know personally who tested positive have some things in common, but the severity and symptoms vary.
Your symptoms sound like your body is struggling with inflammation. Doubt it is the covid. You should look into taking curcumin and try to figure out why your body is dealing with all the inflammation. Don't just treat the symptoms, try to find out what could be the underlying cause.
And yes, I am sick and tired of the covid stuff, too.
KeptByTheWord
07-08-2020, 11:55 PM
How many months you all been talking about this?
Edward Bernays would be proud.
No one in my family, no one that I know personally, no one on the job, no one I have meant recently, has, or had COVID 19. Good God in Zion, turn off the television, shut off YouTube, get out of FaceBook. Hasn't had church in three Sundays???? Sweet love of God, this country deserves Joe Biden, and Donald Trump. They both should be president, and bring Barack Obama back to finish it off. I wonder how you all would fare without being on the internet one one week. :heeheehee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxUmrGsWIQ
Just because you haven't personally experienced it, doesn't make it something that is not real. I'll be the first to say I believe there is something very strange about this whole thing for sure. But to say that people aren't getting it, I have to disagree with you there.Too many family members have had it (sister, brother, aunt, uncle, niece and nephews!) to say that it is not real. It is a strange dose that can turn bad quickly.
I pray that the scientist who said that the covid virus is dying out is right.
I pray we don't come to the place where we are forced to take a vaccine or lose our rights and privileges if we don't.
I pray most of all for the Lord's will to be done, whatever His will is, and that HE will give us the strength and fortitude to get through this mess.
Esaias
07-09-2020, 06:50 AM
I have close family members who have had the covid. They all report it being the STRANGEST thing they have ever had. It is like the flu in one sense, but really not like the flu with all the other symptoms. One family member had to be hospitalized with chest pain, two other family members hospitalized for severe pneumonia; thankfully all have recovered.
Whatever is going on... this thing is NOT like the flu, but has been altered to affect parts of the body that the flu typically never does. Some members of the family reported weird body pains, extreme fatigue, blue toes, extreme back pain, and bands of chest tightness. Then there are the typical symptoms associated with this virus including the cough, sore throat, headache, loss of taste/smell etc.
Whatever went on in China to manufacture this thing... we need to be aware that there is no doubt something they will try next, since this one while being a strange dose, and fatal in some cases, has not had the predicted death rate.
The list of corona symptoms per the media is all over the map. So much so that some have concluded the symptoms of COVID19 are simply "everything, period." I guess that's why everything from vehicular accidents o suicides to alcohol poisoning are being classified as "cause of death: COVID19."
I find it really weird you have close family members who together have had practically all the symptoms, including the corona-toes thing. I mean, what are the odds?
Esaias
07-09-2020, 06:59 AM
The whole thing explained in five minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orLeIjRWsCA
Evang.Benincasa
07-09-2020, 07:48 AM
Just because you haven't personally experienced it, doesn't make it something that is not real.
Then let me say, that just because you have people who have contracted this virus, doesn't mean its at Zombie Apocalyptic proportions. Listen, I know personally no one. I know a lot of people because of the many things I'm involved in. Therefore I disconnected from all news for the most part, and especially this place. Because of the hive mentality, you guys (I love you all, may not like some of you, but I love you all) are most certainly pod people. Like Pavlov's dog, the bells ring and you all salivate. You make it happen, you actually make it all happen in your minds. Therefore like the Borg collective you start to fulfill the hysteria. Edward Bernays would be so proud. This is how cults work, the higher ups make the edict, and it is sold to you all as the TRUTH. You then defend the truth, without question. You then punish those who oppose the TRUTH. Yes, indeed it sounds like True religion, and what we hold dear and how we defend it. But there is the fine line, between light and darkness.We are being played, and if the president would of disappeared, then we wouldn't be going through this circus. November is down the road, and we are still stupid enough to continue to drool as they ring the bell, over and over again.
I'll be the first to say I believe there is something very strange about this whole thing for sure.
You think? But, while we did have flu season, we are in summer. We knew this would be a whopper of a flu season. But, 10,000 a day in Broward County? Are you serious?? Everyone in my home should have it! Masks ? Gloves? THE HOMELESS of Dade and Broward should be no where to be found!! They are the first to get sick, because they live and eat in filth. It is just NOT what they are saying it to be. Brother Thomas Burk just passed away, a prime candidate for this flu, and when they checked him he didn't have COVID 19. Sweet love of God, come on people, COVID 19 is the wind up monkey with the cymbals.
But to say that people aren't getting it, I have to disagree with you there.Too many family members have had it (sister, brother, aunt, uncle, niece and nephews!) to say that it is not real. It is a strange dose that can turn bad quickly.
But all my relatives, and friends in New York, Italy, and Greece never got it? Are we in alternate universes? Are you a Spiderbot? I don't believe you are, but it isn't adding up. You can't have truck loads of infected and sick people and I have none. The math is all wrong. But you and those like you continue the snowball rolling down the hill.
I pray that the scientist who said that the covid virus is dying out is right.
How can it die! You and those like you will most certainly keep this alive and well. I say this with love, and concern. Because you all have been hoodwinked, played like a violin.
I pray we don't come to the place where we are forced to take a vaccine or lose our rights and privileges if we don't.
Forced? You will line up willingly. The media has done its job well, Paul Joseph Goebbels would be be shouting down his, hair, and bobby pins. To see the way this country, and its people drank the Kool Aid.
I pray most of all for the Lord's will to be done, whatever His will is, and that HE will give us the strength and fortitude to get through this mess.
How can you pray for His will to be done when you don't know what His will is? Don't drop it in His lap, and then expect manna from heaven, with loaves and fishes. The need is to seek and hear His voice in all this, not the media, social or mainstream. Not the talking heads who are hell bent in destroying us all because they are having a civil war between their political groups. Jesus has to lead us, but we first need to know His voice and call, to navigate around the garbage we are being fed and told.
aegsm76
07-09-2020, 08:35 AM
I know many who have had it.
And know several who have died from it.
Our church has not had anyone with it and no one at work has either.
So, it is real, but I refuse to live in fear.
diakonos
07-09-2020, 01:03 PM
My mother’s friend was turned away from 2 hospitals and died of covid.
I don’t know anyone in CA who has it. Only recently someone (several) in my circle in Tx tested positive.
Esaias
07-09-2020, 01:42 PM
It's becoming a religion right before our eyes.
Esaias
07-09-2020, 01:50 PM
World Health Organization admits it was all a lie - nations wrecked, millions of lives destroyed, imposition of dystopian Orwellian totalitarian COMMUNISM across the board - for nothing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFEmmvLL7og
Esaias
07-09-2020, 02:40 PM
During lockdowns, childhood vaccinations dropped. So did infant deaths:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4sLNZ9TQz0
Evang.Benincasa
07-09-2020, 06:19 PM
I know many who have had it.
And know several who have died from it.
Our church has not had anyone with it and no one at work has either.
So, it is real, but I refuse to live in fear.
So are car accidents, but i am not understanding your point. Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world. Every day, almost 3,700 people are killed globally in road traffic crashes involving cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, trucks, or pedestrians. More than half of those killed are pedestrians, motorcyclists, and cyclists. I know several who have died from motor vehicle accidents, yet I still get behind the wheel of a car, ride a motorcycle, and a bicycle. We have had many viruses way worse than this one, people you may have known in the past may of died of one of those viruses. But since the Pavlovian bell wasn't rang furiously by our handlers you may of missed it. We are all currently seals being taught to play a tune on a series of horns, being thrown a fish when we bite down on the squeeze ball correctly on the end of each horn. Look, we are pretty much self maintaining. Our handlers don't need to reach down and crack the whip near our ear when we hit the wrong note. The seal right next to us will be more than happy to swat us with its flipper. Anyone questions the narrative which is given us by our handlers is met with stern correction by the rest of our colleagues. "I know plenty of people who died." Is the wall, that is spoken to curb the discussion.
Someone throwing a fit because their 11 year old pink cheeked niece died from the virus in a hospital. Therefore who ever questions the popular narrative is an unfeeling ghoul? A loved one died, it was labeled as COVID 19, and therefore we can't take our eyes off the bug on the leaf to see the Giant 50 foot Mantis which is bearing down on us? Sorry, I feel for any loss, but you can bet your boot straps I'm not following the congregation to Reverend Jones' Kool Aid stand. I guarantee you that we wouldn't of been going through any of this if the democrats won the election in November, 2019.
This would of swung a whole different direction if Killary made here way to the throne. Rahm Emanuel said, "never allow a good crisis to go to waste," or something along those lines. Believe me, the political powers that be live by that Machiavellian rule dynamic. We are still upside down from the scaredemic, and people are still the worse for it. The failed attempt to bring civil unrest with riots didn't go the way they wanted it either. So, what's next? November is still four months away. They aren't ready to put the dog and pony away yet, not by a long shot. Every crises no matter how big or small will be blown out of proportion by the media, by the social media, and the network media combined. We are so in trouble and we are using hand drills into the bottom of our life boats. We are like someone who has a contract out on their lives, and we are asked by a good friend to go get some cannolis for their mother. We climb into the Lincoln Town Car passenger seat, and never feel the bullet to the back of the head.
Esaias
07-09-2020, 07:00 PM
The information is straight up in everyone's face about what the "COVID death count" really is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDjjl41xHU
Evang.Benincasa
07-09-2020, 08:43 PM
The information is straight up in everyone's face about what the "COVID death count" really is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDjjl41xHU
Yeah, that was pretty helpful. :highfive
Too bad most be people will reject it, and continue to follow Dagon with their infants held high.
Esaias
07-09-2020, 09:09 PM
What's it all about?
Agenda 21/Agenda 2030.
Once you understand THAT, then you understand what the "Big Idea" is behind all the insanity going on.
Esaias
07-09-2020, 09:46 PM
What's it all about?
Agenda 21/Agenda 2030.
Once you understand THAT, then you understand what the "Big Idea" is behind all the insanity going on.
And The Big Question is how does all this fit with Scripture? What does the Bible teach about this, and what is the genuine apostolic Christian take on all this? And on our course of action?
Esaias
07-09-2020, 09:55 PM
And The Big Question is how does all this fit with Scripture? What does the Bible teach about this, and what is the genuine apostolic Christian take on all this? And on our course of action?
At this point most want to give their personal opinion of how Agenda 2030 meshes with the nuances of the Apocalyptic visions given to John. Unfortunately, I estimate about 90% of professing Christians lack the basic foundational Biblically-informed and guided paradigm or world-view to properly take that approach. As well as general lack of understanding what Agenda 2030/Global Governance/The Great Reset etc are actually about, let alone what Revelation is showing us.
The path to understanding begins, not in Revelation, but in Genesis.
KeptByTheWord
07-10-2020, 12:45 AM
Then let me say, that just because you have people who have contracted this virus, doesn't mean its at Zombie Apocalyptic proportions. Listen, I know personally no one. I know a lot of people because of the many things I'm involved in. Therefore I disconnected from all news for the most part, and especially this place. Because of the hive mentality, you guys (I love you all, may not like some of you, but I love you all) are most certainly pod people. Like Pavlov's dog, the bells ring and you all salivate. You make it happen, you actually make it all happen in your minds. Therefore like the Borg collective you start to fulfill the hysteria. Edward Bernays would be so proud. This is how cults work, the higher ups make the edict, and it is sold to you all as the TRUTH. You then defend the truth, without question. You then punish those who oppose the TRUTH. Yes, indeed it sounds like True religion, and what we hold dear and how we defend it. But there is the fine line, between light and darkness.We are being played, and if the president would of disappeared, then we wouldn't be going through this circus. November is down the road, and we are still stupid enough to continue to drool as they ring the bell, over and over again.
You think? But, while we did have flu season, we are in summer. We knew this would be a whopper of a flu season. But, 10,000 a day in Broward County? Are you serious?? Everyone in my home should have it! Masks ? Gloves? THE HOMELESS of Dade and Broward should be no where to be found!! They are the first to get sick, because they live and eat in filth. It is just NOT what they are saying it to be. Brother Thomas Burk just passed away, a prime candidate for this flu, and when they checked him he didn't have COVID 19. Sweet love of God, come on people, COVID 19 is the wind up monkey with the cymbals.
But all my relatives, and friends in New York, Italy, and Greece never got it? Are we in alternate universes? Are you a Spiderbot? I don't believe you are, but it isn't adding up. You can't have truck loads of infected and sick people and I have none. The math is all wrong. But you and those like you continue the snowball rolling down the hill.
How can it die! You and those like you will most certainly keep this alive and well. I say this with love, and concern. Because you all have been hoodwinked, played like a violin.
Forced? You will line up willingly. The media has done its job well, Paul Joseph Goebbels would be be shouting down his, hair, and bobby pins. To see the way this country, and its people drank the Kool Aid.
How can you pray for His will to be done when you don't know what His will is? Don't drop it in His lap, and then expect manna from heaven, with loaves and fishes. The need is to seek and hear His voice in all this, not the media, social or mainstream. Not the talking heads who are hell bent in destroying us all because they are having a civil war between their political groups. Jesus has to lead us, but we first need to know His voice and call, to navigate around the garbage we are being fed and told.
You are entertaining to read, to say the least :highfive And no, I'm not a bot... but I have been blood-bought :thumbsup
I'm with you on the mess that we're in with this stuff. But some things about it are real, and I know for the family members who had it, it wasn't a fun day in the park... it was far worse and much stranger than the flu. And they were scattered over the US too. Yet, here where I live, I know no one else who has had it.
It makes me wonder if they are spreading the virus in some form (spraying?) in certain areas to make it bad enough to work the public up.
Indeed, why the homeless aren't just dying by the hordes because of it?
More questions than answers, for sure.
Esaias
07-10-2020, 11:00 AM
Did you all notice the new COVID19 Contact Tracing app that was installed on your phones? That way "they" can track everyone you come into contact with, mapping out all your social networks. You know, just like we do in Iraq and Afghanistan tracking insurgents and building dossiers on everybody, showing who knows who, when and where they interact, etc.
Yeah, it's all about some "pandemic." Riiiiiight.
aegsm76
07-10-2020, 12:55 PM
So are car accidents, but i am not understanding your point. Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world. Every day, almost 3,700 people are killed globally in road traffic crashes involving cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, trucks, or pedestrians. More than half of those killed are pedestrians, motorcyclists, and cyclists. I know several who have died from motor vehicle accidents, yet I still get behind the wheel of a car, ride a motorcycle, and a bicycle. We have had many viruses way worse than this one, people you may have known in the past may of died of one of those viruses. But since the Pavlovian bell wasn't rang furiously by our handlers you may of missed it. We are all currently seals being taught to play a tune on a series of horns, being thrown a fish when we bite down on the squeeze ball correctly on the end of each horn. Look, we are pretty much self maintaining. Our handlers don't need to reach down and crack the whip near our ear when we hit the wrong note. The seal right next to us will be more than happy to swat us with its flipper. Anyone questions the narrative which is given us by our handlers is met with stern correction by the rest of our colleagues. "I know plenty of people who died." Is the wall, that is spoken to curb the discussion.
Someone throwing a fit because their 11 year old pink cheeked niece died from the virus in a hospital. Therefore who ever questions the popular narrative is an unfeeling ghoul? A loved one died, it was labeled as COVID 19, and therefore we can't take our eyes off the bug on the leaf to see the Giant 50 foot Mantis which is bearing down on us? Sorry, I feel for any loss, but you can bet your boot straps I'm not following the congregation to Reverend Jones' Kool Aid stand. I guarantee you that we wouldn't of been going through any of this if the democrats won the election in November, 2019.
This would of swung a whole different direction if Killary made here way to the throne. Rahm Emanuel said, "never allow a good crisis to go to waste," or something along those lines. Believe me, the political powers that be live by that Machiavellian rule dynamic. We are still upside down from the scaredemic, and people are still the worse for it. The failed attempt to bring civil unrest with riots didn't go the way they wanted it either. So, what's next? November is still four months away. They aren't ready to put the dog and pony away yet, not by a long shot. Every crises no matter how big or small will be blown out of proportion by the media, by the social media, and the network media combined. We are so in trouble and we are using hand drills into the bottom of our life boats. We are like someone who has a contract out on their lives, and we are asked by a good friend to go get some cannolis for their mother. We climb into the Lincoln Town Car passenger seat, and never feel the bullet to the back of the head.
EB - not sure I understand your response?
My overall point is that there a real virus out there, which makes people sick and die.
I am not volunteering to get it, but I am not stopping doing things or going places that I need to go, either.
The governmental cure seems much worse than the disease, at this point.
Esaias
07-10-2020, 01:34 PM
So now the Texas Office of Emergency Management is saying people need to wear masks, social distance, and isolate... IN THEIR OWN HOMES??????
How can people not see what is going on here?
Remember the schoolyard bully back in kindergarten? He would make the scared kids do retarded stupid stuff just to prove he was boss and they were cowed by him. Same same, folks.
Esaias
07-10-2020, 03:22 PM
Pawpaw fruits, goats, etc had the Chinaflu, now the shrimp have it. Wear your mask when eating shrimp!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-10/china-points-to-shrimp-as-covid-19-carrier-after-salmon-debacle
Esaias
07-10-2020, 11:24 PM
You are entertaining to read, to say the least :highfive And no, I'm not a bot... but I have been blood-bought :thumbsup
I'm with you on the mess that we're in with this stuff. But some things about it are real, and I know for the family members who had it, it wasn't a fun day in the park... it was far worse and much stranger than the flu. And they were scattered over the US too. Yet, here where I live, I know no one else who has had it.
It makes me wonder if they are spreading the virus in some form (spraying?) in certain areas to make it bad enough to work the public up.
Indeed, why the homeless aren't just dying by the hordes because of it?
More questions than answers, for sure.
It's amazing you still cling to a belief in "the virus" in spite of them practically admitting there is no such thing. The VERY SAME PEOPLE who tell you "there's this horrible virus going around" admit that almost everyone they claim has it, DOESN'T.
You and others are concerned about "them" crop dusting some phony virus on you when you ought to be concerned about the fact that LITERAL COMMUNISTS ARE LITERALLY TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND HAVE LITERALLY STATED THEY INTEND TO LITERALLY MASS MURDER YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDKIDS.
Mass murder, ethnic cleansing, and genocide are stark naked realities of communism. And now they are actually in the process of bringing their Bolshevik Red Revolution LARP of death to the US of A. More questions than answers? Friend, that's only because you've been asking the wrong questions. The answers are staring all of us in the face, and have been for decades.
McCarthy tried to warn us....
Jito463
07-11-2020, 01:07 PM
My mother’s friend was turned away from 2 hospitals and died of covid.
I don’t know anyone in CA who has it. Only recently someone (several) in my circle in Tx tested positive.
California has - despite being one of the most restrictive (yes, I said despite) - had very few deaths per million, assuming you believe the numbers provided. According to reports, they're sitting between Texas (105 D/M) and Florida (187 D/M) for deaths per million (163 D/M currently), with a total reported deaths of 6,445. Meanwhile, NY has reported 1,663 D/M (32.3k total), NJ has reported 1,748 D/M (15.5k total) and both Mass (8,268 total) and CT (4,348 total) are reporting around 1,200 D/M.
Did you all notice the new COVID19 Contact Tracing app that was installed on your phones? That way "they" can track everyone you come into contact with, mapping out all your social networks. You know, just like we do in Iraq and Afghanistan tracking insurgents and building dossiers on everybody, showing who knows who, when and where they interact, etc.
Yeah, it's all about some "pandemic." Riiiiiight.
No contact tracing app on my phone. Maybe it's just an iPhone thing? That wouldn't surprise me, as Apple people are generally Sheeple (no offense to Apple fans on this forum, but it's true, generally speaking).
It's certainly not on my Android phone.
Nicodemus1968
07-11-2020, 02:21 PM
California has - despite being one of the most restrictive (yes, I said despite) - had very few deaths per million, assuming you believe the numbers provided. According to reports, they're sitting between Texas (105 D/M) and Florida (187 D/M) for deaths per million (163 D/M currently), with a total reported deaths of 6,445. Meanwhile, NY has reported 1,663 D/M (32.3k total), NJ has reported 1,748 D/M (15.5k total) and both Mass (8,268 total) and CT (4,348 total) are reporting around 1,200 D/M.
No contact tracing app on my phone. Maybe it's just an iPhone thing? That wouldn't surprise me, as Apple people are generally Sheeple (no offense to Apple fans on this forum, but it's true, generally speaking).
It's certainly not on my Android phone.
Maybe it's just an iPhone thing? That wouldn't surprise me, as Apple people are generally Sheeple
Spoken from a true Android. I have no contact tracing app on my phone either.
Esaias
07-11-2020, 03:38 PM
California has - despite being one of the most restrictive (yes, I said despite) - had very few deaths per million, assuming you believe the numbers provided. According to reports, they're sitting between Texas (105 D/M) and Florida (187 D/M) for deaths per million (163 D/M currently), with a total reported deaths of 6,445. Meanwhile, NY has reported 1,663 D/M (32.3k total), NJ has reported 1,748 D/M (15.5k total) and both Mass (8,268 total) and CT (4,348 total) are reporting around 1,200 D/M.
No contact tracing app on my phone. Maybe it's just an iPhone thing? That wouldn't surprise me, as Apple people are generally Sheeple (no offense to Apple fans on this forum, but it's true, generally speaking).
It's certainly not on my Android phone.
I found it on my Android phone, unnanounced. Had to look for it, as it's kind of hidden. I "disabled" it. That's what the GUI says but who really knows?
Esaias
07-11-2020, 03:39 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/how-check-if-your-iphone-secretly-coronavirus-tracker
Esaias
07-11-2020, 03:48 PM
For android, click Settings, you should see "Google", tap that, it should list "Services". You may notice a "COVID 19 Exposure Notifications" listed.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6539&stc=1&d=1594504079
diakonos
07-11-2020, 05:06 PM
Maybe it's just an iPhone thing? That wouldn't surprise me, as Apple people are generally Sheeple
Spoken from a true Android. I have no contact tracing app on my phone either.
Same
diakonos
07-11-2020, 05:15 PM
Oh, found it.
diakonos
07-11-2020, 05:16 PM
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6540&stc=1&d=1594509344
diakonos
07-11-2020, 05:22 PM
Hopefully this one is clear
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6543&stc=1&d=1594509742
Evang.Benincasa
07-11-2020, 06:00 PM
Communism as far as classical isn't what they are looking for, it's a BORG thing. To assimilate, to join us all into a collective. Everyone thinking the same way, behaving the same way, and hating the same way. They need to create a people in their own image. You see, they know they cannot get us all on the same page with the barrel of a gun. Or, a boot stepping on the back of a head, crushing it into the dirt. Everything is as Aldous Huxley predicted, a self absorbed immature elitist bunch of know it alls. Who are mostly driven by their own carnal lustful desires. So, easily manipulated by their handlers, and the media which is focused to guide them straight off a cliff. Which we most certainly will kill each other to be the first one to leap to our deaths.
Jito463
07-12-2020, 09:59 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/how-check-if-your-iphone-secretly-coronavirus-tracker
Ah, I see. Mine already reports as off, probably because I typically keep BT & location services off unless I need them. It also reports that I need to "install or finish setting up a participating app". So that setting just appears to control the settings, it doesn't mean it actually is 'contact tracing'.
Esaias
07-13-2020, 11:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9ExjwOeik
Esaias
07-13-2020, 11:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9ExjwOeik
http://syntheticneurobiology.org/projects
Evang.Benincasa
07-13-2020, 09:19 PM
Blood harvesting?
Esaias
07-14-2020, 12:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn7UoxiLNk&feature=youtu.be
Esaias
07-14-2020, 12:23 PM
COVID-19 VACCINE “designed to make us into genetically modified organisms” says Dr. Carrie Madej
http://thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=210259
Esaias
07-14-2020, 12:28 PM
Meanwhile in Florida...
https://www.twitter.com/tribunal_watch/status/1283052421195935754
("ERRORS FOUND: Florida's positivity rate is skewed. #FOX35 went through #COVID19 test reports & found many clinics reporting 100% positivity.
@orlandohealth
admits their number is wrong, saying it shows 98% positive, but it's actually 9.4%.
@fox35orlando ")
https://www.twitter.com/Fox35Amy/status/1282982855430340610
Esaias
07-14-2020, 12:49 PM
Meanwhile in Florida...
https://www.twitter.com/tribunal_watch/status/1283052421195935754
("ERRORS FOUND: Florida's positivity rate is skewed. #FOX35 went through #COVID19 test reports & found many clinics reporting 100% positivity.
@orlandohealth
admits their number is wrong, saying it shows 98% positive, but it's actually 9.4%.
@fox35orlando ")
https://www.twitter.com/Fox35Amy/status/1282982855430340610
They are altering the data in real time:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6544&stc=1&d=1594752548
Evang.Benincasa
07-14-2020, 06:14 PM
EB - not sure I understand your response?
My overall point is that there a real virus out there, which makes people sick and die.
I am not volunteering to get it, but I am not stopping doing things or going places that I need to go, either.
The governmental cure seems much worse than the disease, at this point.
My point is that this virus is being embellished to be used as a manipulator. CDC has let us all know, if you die from another cause, but you had the virus. You will be in the category of COVID death. You used the word GOVERNMENT. That is our main focus, because this GOVERNMENT is afraid of its people. Therefore it has to make choices for its people. It is supposed to wbe WE the people. WE are the ones supposed to control the government but we don't. Also we don't really care, as long as Amazon delivers our packages on time. The revolution will not be televised, and it won't be on the internet. Our first revolution was fueled from the pulpit. But, that is no longer going to be the place where the words of liberty will be uttered.
Evang.Benincasa
07-14-2020, 06:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn7UoxiLNk&feature=youtu.be
You do know that oxygen-sensing biosensor is like shoe laces to a zipper. The technology which we are getting in place in our government does far more. Plus it never has to come in contact with your body. Furthermore, it can also be used to disable you, if that needs to be done. Ah yes, COVID ZOMBIE VIRUS, the Umbrella Corporation has already placed things in motion to find the unclean ones. those who need to be sterilized. Or at least, find who they are so they can ....be helped. That is what it is all about, isn't it? You are cycling, MeeMaw, Peepaw, needing medical attention. Solider fighting for freedom, and good to the core. Now he can be monitored by the collective. But we are shown the residential/commercial model, not the one which can look right down to your bones through the walls of your home.
It only gets worse from here. :thumbsup
Esaias
07-14-2020, 07:37 PM
You do know that oxygen-sensing biosensor is like shoe laces to a zipper. The technology which we are getting in place in our government does far more. Plus it never has to come in contact with your body. Furthermore, it can also be used to disable you, if that needs to be done. Ah yes, COVID ZOMBIE VIRUS, the Umbrella Corporation has already placed things in motion to find the unclean ones. those who need to be sterilized. Or at least, find who they are so they can ....be helped. That is what it is all about, isn't it? You are cycling, MeeMaw, Peepaw, needing medical attention. Solider fighting for freedom, and good to the core. Now he can be monitored by the collective. But we are shown the residential/commercial model, not the one which can look right down to your bones through the walls of your home.
It only gets worse from here. :thumbsup
I wonder why they banned lead paint? I wonder if lead paint caused problems for back-scatter x-ray and other surveillance technology?
Evang.Benincasa
07-16-2020, 05:47 PM
I wonder why they banned lead paint? I wonder if lead paint caused problems for back-scatter x-ray and other surveillance technology?
Well, lead was banned from paint, and fuel.
Esaias
07-17-2020, 08:54 AM
A recent article published by the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM), based at Oxford University, described the "statistical anomaly" which means that "no one can ever recover from COVID-19 in England".
"It seems that PHE regularly looks for people on the NHS database who have ever tested positive, and simply checks to see if they are still alive or not," said the article's authors Professor Yoon Loke, from the University of East Anglia, and Professor Carl Heneghan, from Oxford University.
"PHE does not appear to consider how long ago the COVID test result was, nor whether the person has been successfully treated in hospital and discharged to the community.
"Anyone who has tested COVID positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures.
"By this PHE definition, no one with COVID in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness.
"A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a COVID death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later."
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-health-secretary-matt-hancock-orders-urgent-review-into-public-health-england-death-data-12030392
Esaias
07-17-2020, 02:50 PM
Do you know why the viral pandemic case numbers are going up? In the middle of summer, contrary to all known viral seasons? No, it's not because "Wuhanflu is an engineered bioweapon". It's strictly due to 2 things: increased testing (more people tested = more opportunities to "find cases"), and - more importantly - DATA MANIPULATION BY ALTERING WHAT QUALIFIES AS A REPORTABLE CASE. Or in other words, LYING.
The following video is footage from Collin County, Texas hearings on the recent "redefinitions". First 3 minutes or so is all you need to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPhZGbvnT8
Esaias
07-17-2020, 02:58 PM
"... a probable case can also be determined without an FDA-approved test if someone meets definitions of certain clinical criteria and epidemiological links, Souri said.
“That still gets counted towards the case count,” she said. “It’s different. It’s not confirmed; it’s probable; but it’s still a case.”
Collin County Judge Chris Hill said he is worried COVID-19 cases will spike in a way that does not accurately represent the virus’s spread in the county.
“I fear that this is coming at a time when we’re just now starting to reopen,” he said during the meeting. “If the numbers jump in a false way, it’s going to start to be very concerning to our citizens that we’re actually going backwards.”
(edit: This was May 18. What has happened since? "Texas sees spike in COVID cases prompting renewed shutdown and mandatory muzzles for Texans"... Just like the judge said would happen...)
Additionally, a positive PCR test result will no longer be required to determine a COVID-19-related death, Souri said.
If COVID-19 was determined to be a possible cause of death—even among other possible causes—it will be counted as a COVID-19-related death, she said.
“That also has the opportunity for COVID deaths to go up dramatically,” Hill said.
Clinical criteria needed to meet the definition of a probable COVID-19 includes:
at least two of the following symptoms: fever that is measured or subjective, chills, rigors, myalgia, headache, sore throat, or new smell and taste disorders;
at least one of the following symptoms: cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing; or
severe respiratory illness with at least one of the following: clinical or radiographic evidence of pneumonia, or acute respiratory distress syndrome and no alternative more likely diagnosis.
Epidemiological links needed to meet the definition of a probable case includes:
close contact with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19;
close contact with a person with clinically compatible illness and linkage to a confirmed case of COVID-19; or
travel to or residence in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2.
Close contact, Souri said, is defined by being within 6 feet for at least a period of 10 minutes to 30 minutes or more depending on exposure.
“There are 15 different options on how you can be classified as a probable case,” she said.
https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort-worth/frisco/coronavirus/2020/05/19/new-covid-19-definitions-by-the-state-could-raise-case-counts-in-collin-county/
Esaias
07-17-2020, 03:00 PM
So the dramatic increase in Wuflu cases is a LIE. The fact that government, media, and health agencies are PUSHING THE LIE ought to tell you something: that this isn't about any virus. Real pandemics don't require lies, deceit, falsehoods.
Ah, but communist subversion DOES. Communism - it ain't just democrats.
Esaias
07-17-2020, 05:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtZJMGHXvLU
Esaias
07-17-2020, 05:27 PM
Meanwhile they are phasing out the coins (and with it the cash) so everybody has to use plastic - and so the noose tightens even further.
Esaias
07-18-2020, 06:48 PM
Heard on the Florida news (?) that a man who died in a crash was reported as a COVID19 death. Yup, better wear that muzzle, American!
Esaias
07-21-2020, 05:30 PM
The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
Esaias
07-21-2020, 05:33 PM
So the CDC has admitted they were massively inflating the numbers. Those numbers are the justification for wrecking millions of oeople's lives and destroying America.
So who is going to jail? Oh, that's right, YOU are likely going to jail if you don't continue to play along.
Meanwhile, just vote harder next time, right?
Evang.Benincasa
07-21-2020, 05:40 PM
So the CDC has admitted they were massively inflating the numbers. Those numbers are the justification for wrecking millions of oeople's lives and destroying America.
So who is going to jail? Oh, that's right, YOU are likely going to jail if you don't continue to play along.
Meanwhile, just vote harder next time, right?
https://i.gifer.com/U9e.gif
Jito463
07-22-2020, 09:00 AM
Meanwhile, despite no evidence to support it, the Queen of Lincoln, NE (a.k.a. the Mayor) has decreed that all subjects of the realm must wear masks while indoors in businesses. Exceptions include people at bars drinking, restaurants eating and those seeking federal aid....yeah, you read that right.
The governor has issued a statement that he will be fighting this, but who knows how long that will take. So now my boss is freaking out and making us wear a mask every time a customer comes in the store, despite the DHM even stating that we don't have to wear a mask if there's more than 6 feet of distance. If I didn't need the job, I'd just walk away. I suppose I do have some PTO built up that I could use.
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 09:39 AM
Meanwhile, despite no evidence to support it, the Queen of Lincoln, NE (a.k.a. the Mayor) has decreed that all subjects of the realm must wear masks while indoors in businesses. Exceptions include people at bars drinking, restaurants eating and those seeking federal aid....yeah, you read that right.
The governor has issued a statement that he will be fighting this, but who knows how long that will take. So now my boss is freaking out and making us wear a mask every time a customer comes in the store, despite the DHM even stating that we don't have to wear a mask if there's more than 6 feet of distance. If I didn't need the job, I'd just walk away. I suppose I do have some PTO built up that I could use.
Its better than a whip, and cheaper than bullets. We can't fight back, or take a stand. We need to make money, because that's how we survive. Only recourse is to take enough sick days until its over. But alas, this circus has had all three rings going full steam since March? Fort Lauderdale still has a curfew, technically we are still under Shelter in Place???
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 09:40 AM
https://i.gifer.com/U9e.gif
Jito463
07-22-2020, 04:04 PM
And in the next phase of insanity, a couple in Kentucky were given ankle bracelets after refusing to sign a document. The wife tested positive for C19, she was even willing to self-quarantine at home, but they wanted her to sign a document stating she would not get into an ambulance without first calling up the local health officials. She refused, and now they're forcing both of them to wear ankle monitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3urgEP_mE
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 04:18 PM
And in the next phase of insanity, a couple in Kentucky were given ankle bracelets after refusing to sign a document. The wife tested positive for C19, she was even willing to self-quarantine at home, but they wanted her to sign a document stating she would not get into an ambulance without first calling up the local health officials. She refused, and now they're forcing both of them to wear ankle monitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3urgEP_mE
https://i.imgur.com/WBBJWdc.gif
Jito463
07-22-2020, 04:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WBBJWdc.gif
Umm, I'm no fan of Trump, but what does he have to do with the story I posted? That was local tyrannical officials, not agents of the president.
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 04:39 PM
Umm, I'm no fan of Trump, but what does he have to do with the story I posted? That was local tyrannical officials, not agents of the president.
Well, uhm, how many other boys and girls got the house arrest bracelet? Just these two kiddies? Anyone else getting lojacked? The POTUS in the oval office isn't suspended in mid air. It is a big Machiavellian club, and the media (especially the internet) is the sharp stick to poke us in the right direction. So, how many more vids are out there? Is the line long or short for ankle monitors in Kentucky?
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 04:40 PM
https://i.gifer.com/U9e.gif
Esaias
07-22-2020, 05:10 PM
And in the next phase of insanity, a couple in Kentucky were given ankle bracelets after refusing to sign a document. The wife tested positive for C19, she was even willing to self-quarantine at home, but they wanted her to sign a document stating she would not get into an ambulance without first calling up the local health officials. She refused, and now they're forcing both of them to wear ankle monitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3urgEP_mE
I read about this a couple days ago I think it was. The couple brought their troubles on themselves, sad to say. She got tested although she had no symptoms and wasn't around anyone who was sick. She wanted to visit her mother or something so she voluntarily got tested. When you voluntarily stick your head in the lion's mouth, you should expect to get bit. Or at least damp from the saliva. Poking the anthill usually results in letting the ants know you are there, and on their radar. Just saying.
Jito463
07-22-2020, 05:12 PM
Well, uhm, how many other boys and girls got the house arrest bracelet? Just these two kiddies? Anyone else getting lojacked? The POTUS in the oval office isn't suspended in mid air. It is a big Machiavellian club, and the media (especially the internet) is the sharp stick to poke us in the right direction. So, how many more vids are out there? Is the line long or short for ankle monitors in Kentucky?
Huh? :blink
Can I get a translation for that? That just comes across as a jumbled mess.
Jito463
07-22-2020, 05:14 PM
I read about this a couple days ago I think it was. The couple brought their troubles on themselves, sad to say. She got tested although she had no symptoms and wasn't around anyone who was sick. She wanted to visit her mother or something so she voluntarily got tested. When you voluntarily stick your head in the lion's mouth, you should expect to get bit. Or at least damp from the saliva. Poking the anthill usually results in letting the ants know you are there, and on their radar. Just saying.
I agree that they shouldn't have done the testing, but the situation is still an example of extreme government overreach.
Esaias
07-22-2020, 05:46 PM
I agree that they shouldn't have done the testing, but the situation is still an example of extreme government overreach.
Well, yes, but the problem is we are living in a new normal of massive overreach. Therefore people need to act accordingly...
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 07:04 PM
Huh? :blink
Can I get a translation for that? That just comes across as a jumbled mess.
Where are the other people wearing ankle monitors?
You only have one case?
How's that for a skinny question?
Now how about a skinny answer.
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 07:05 PM
I agree that they shouldn't have done the testing, but the situation is still an example of extreme government overreach.
But bro, extreme government overreach on how many people?
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 07:06 PM
https://i.gifer.com/U9e.gif
Jito463
07-22-2020, 08:10 PM
Where are the other people wearing ankle monitors?
You only have one case?
How's that for a skinny question?
Now how about a skinny answer.
But bro, extreme government overreach on how many people?
What does it matter? Government abuse on one, is (or should be) an affront to us all. :foottap
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 09:46 PM
What does it matter? Government abuse on one, is (or should be) an affront to us all. :foottap
Ok, just as I thought. Homeland Gulf of Tonkin/Reichstag Fire to get everyone pointed in the right direction. Lion, Tigers, and bears, oh my. Tell, you what, when we have an entire city getting fitted for ankle monitors then I'll be interested. Until then...YAWN. :heeheehee
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 09:46 PM
https://i.gifer.com/U9e.gif
A million reps with one 15 lbs Iron Grip polyurethane dumbbell? Yet, his arm looks like a rotten tree branch. Uncle Sleepy Joe, needs to check out Frank Zane. An old guy who actually works out. Joe Biden is just another lying politician.
Esaias
07-22-2020, 09:54 PM
March 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG472OzJZto
Evang.Benincasa
07-22-2020, 11:18 PM
March 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG472OzJZto
I thought Omega Man did a better job. Or the beginning of the Television movie The Stand with don't Fear the Reaper BOC playing in the background.
n david
07-23-2020, 10:48 AM
Brad Parscale on Twitter just now:
I talked to a police officer today. He said a child was shot and killed in Florida. The child had covid after blood testing.
He was marked as a covid death.
If this is true, this madness must stop.
https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1286341104716193793
Michael The Disciple
07-23-2020, 01:15 PM
Brad Parscale on Twitter just now:
I talked to a police officer today. He said a child was shot and killed in Florida. The child had covid after blood testing.
He was marked as a covid death.
If this is true, this madness must stop.
https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1286341104716193793
It happens all the time. Theres a difference in dying "of Covid" and "with Covid".
Evang.Benincasa
07-23-2020, 05:48 PM
It happens all the time. Theres a difference in dying "of Covid" and "with Covid".
You think after the election that spaceship is going to land? :thumbsup
Jito463
07-23-2020, 08:46 PM
Ok, just as I thought. Homeland Gulf of Tonkin/Reichstag Fire to get everyone pointed in the right direction. Lion, Tigers, and bears, oh my. Tell, you what, when we have an entire city getting fitted for ankle monitors then I'll be interested. Until then...YAWN. :heeheehee
I just don't understand you, sometimes.
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Evang.Benincasa
07-23-2020, 09:57 PM
I just don't understand you, sometimes.
https://i.postimg.cc/yxN6d54x/Shaking-head-walk-away.gif
What's not to understand? You have nothing to alert us about. Population of Kentucky 4.468 million? COVID 19 cases in Kentucky? 25,788? But we need to focus on these two random folks? Because two out of 4.468 million have been made to wear ankle monitors? I asked how many MORE were recipients of this governmental overreach? You didn't have the number, but just wanted me to focus on Loretta Sue and Billy Ray having to wear a monitor? Jito? Good Job! There is an NSA spiderbot that doesn't have to work tonight because you already did its job. :heeheehee
Evang.Benincasa
07-23-2020, 10:36 PM
Uncle Joe Biden pounds out some reps
https://i.gifer.com/U9e.gif
So you don't have to America
jediwill83
07-24-2020, 05:20 AM
What's not to understand? You have nothing to alert us about. Population of Kentucky 4.468 million? COVID 19 cases in Kentucky? 25,788? But we need to focus on these two random folks? Because two out of 4.468 million have been made to wear ankle monitors? I asked how many MORE were recipients of this governmental overreach? You didn't have the number, but just wanted me to focus on Loretta Sue and Billy Ray having to wear a monitor? Jito? Good Job! There is an NSA spiderbot that doesn't have to work tonight because you already did its job. :heeheehee
Go google location monitoring bracelets for covid monitoring and look at all the articles detailing all the countries already rolling this out. This has already been planned and it will be implemented here and it already is. To just say that there are only 2 this is happening to is a gross underestimation and its surprising you're not seeing whats right in front of your face. Notice any changes in policy and people lately? Does it feel like things are going to bebop along like they always have? Always on the misery side of mediocrity?
Or are things taking a turn for the worst?
Gulf of Tonkin and Reichstag fire was to get people to trust their governments...not to alert them of overreach like Jito was pointing out.
The governments initiated or reported action had been initiated against them so that they could attack whoever it was to "blame".
What you're seeing is the government creating a system of scapegoats so they will feel justified in the crackdown when people snap...and itll all be for the greater good and dont you worry...those tracking bracelets are coming to a city near you sooner than you think.
Michael The Disciple
07-24-2020, 05:56 AM
You think after the election that spaceship is going to land? :thumbsup
Coincidence?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tucker-bomb-pentagon-set-to-release-classified-ufo-findings-off-world-vehicles-not-made-on-this-earth/
Evang.Benincasa
07-24-2020, 09:36 AM
Coincidence?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tucker-bomb-pentagon-set-to-release-classified-ufo-findings-off-world-vehicles-not-made-on-this-earth/
Yes, Mike, and here is some news from 1993 :thumbsup
Mike, you always know how to find the truth on whatever is going on around us. :nod
https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/adopts-baby630.gif
Michael The Disciple
07-24-2020, 09:51 AM
Yes, Mike, and here is some news from 1993 :thumbsup
Mike, you always know how to find the truth on whatever is going on around us. :nod
https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/adopts-baby630.gif
:highfive
n david
07-24-2020, 04:16 PM
My brother is a head chaplain at a PD. Two officers he's close with were scheduled to test for COVID, though they weren't exhibiting any symptoms. Because of that, they canceled the appointment. They both said that several days later they got a call from a lab stating they tested positive.
I've heard the same story from other friends on FB. Never tested, but received a call claiming they tested positive.
Evang.Benincasa
07-24-2020, 10:34 PM
My brother is a head chaplain at a PD. Two officers he's close with were scheduled to test for COVID, though they weren't exhibiting any symptoms. Because of that, they canceled the appointment. They both said that several days later they got a call from a lab stating they tested positive.
I've heard the same story from other friends on FB. Never tested, but received a call claiming they tested positive.
I have personally have heard quite a few people from Broward, and Dade with the same story.
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