Sister Linda Gibson Johnson

[Bro Flame]

Sister Linda has written many Spirit-filled songs that are quite common to many Apostolic churches.

Some of them are:
"I'm One of Them"
"Funeral Plans"
"Didn't I Walk on the Water?"
"I Call Him My Everything"
"Tear Off the Roof"

I honestly hadn't any idea that Sister Linda had written the majority of these songs. The only one I knew for certain that she had penned was "I'm One of Them", but all the others I just unfairly assumed belonged to other artists. I could have sworn that "Didn't I Walk on the Water?" was written by the Dunaways, but I was wrong.

I was privileged to meet Sister Linda back on June 10, 2020, when my Pastors invited her to be with us at our three Sunday services on our first day back (to one of our churches at least) after the Covid-19 pandemic had us all quarantined, and we decided to do some interior remodeling.

The night Sister Linda was with us at our home church turned out to be the night I proposed to my girlfriend of over a year. I remember Sister Linda crying and later commenting at how sweet she thought it was that I wanted my proposal to be special and for doing it in front of (practically) our entire church family. Naturally, my fiancee and I had to get a picture with her to remember the occasion.

Have any of you meet this dear Sister?

[diakonos]

Sister Linda is Church of God.

[consapente89]

Pretty sure she is trinity.

[consapente89]

You refer to your pastors in the plural. Does your church have multiple pastors?

[Bro Flame]

Sister Linda is Church of God.
Was Church of God.

[Bro Flame]

Pretty sure she is trinity.
Was Trinitarian.

[consapente89]

Was Trinitarian.

Well Praise the Lord if that's the case! Good news! When was she baptized in Jesus name? Do you know?

[Bro Flame]

You refer to your pastors in the plural. Does your church have multiple pastors?
I say Pastors because my churches are co-pastored by a husband and wife that work in unity for God.

And I say churches because my Pastors are overseeing three separate churches (or buildings), but yet we're all in unity as one.

[consapente89]

I say Pastors because my churches are co-pastored by a husband and wife that work in unity for God.

And I say churches because my Pastors are overseeing three separate churches (or buildings), but yet we're all in unity as one.

oh

[Bro Flame]

Well Praise the Lord if that's the case! Good news! When was she baptized in Jesus name? Do you know?
I'm not aware of the exact date it took place, but I do know that she saw Jesus Name while she was visiting in Georgia last month.

She attended a UPC assembly in Valdosta, where my Pastors met her, and while she was there, the pastor there did a study on Oneness and baptism in the name of Jesus. From what Sister Linda told my Pastors, she was pricked in her heart about what the pastor taught, and after discussing it with her husband, they decided that their family needed to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus.

Once she went back home (to Kentucky?), she and her family have started attending an Apostolic church there.

She had told my Pastors that she had heard Jesus Name preached many times before, but it had always been taught with a harsh spirit. This gentleman in Valdosta broke the Truth with love, and it was this that pricked Sister Linda to see the necessity of being baptized in the name of the Lord.

[diakonos]

oh

You didn’t see that coming?

[diakonos]

I'm not aware of the exact date it took place, but I do know that she saw Jesus Name while she was visiting in Georgia last month.

She attended a UPC assembly in Valdosta, where my Pastors met her, and while she was there, the pastor there did a study on Oneness and baptism in the name of Jesus. From what Sister Linda told my Pastors, she was pricked in her heart about what the pastor taught, and after discussing it with her husband, they decided that their family needed to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus.

Once she went back home (to Kentucky?), she and her family have started attending an Apostolic church there.

She had told my Pastors that she had heard Jesus Name preached many times before, but it had always been taught with a harsh spirit. This gentleman in Valdosta broke the Truth with love, and it was this that pricked Sister Linda to see the necessity of being baptized in the name of the Lord.Yee-yeet! :hanky

[aegsm76]

I'm not aware of the exact date it took place, but I do know that she saw Jesus Name while she was visiting in Georgia last month.

She attended a UPC assembly in Valdosta, where my Pastors met her, and while she was there, the pastor there did a study on Oneness and baptism in the name of Jesus. From what Sister Linda told my Pastors, she was pricked in her heart about what the pastor taught, and after discussing it with her husband, they decided that their family needed to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus.

Once she went back home (to Kentucky?), she and her family have started attending an Apostolic church there.

She had told my Pastors that she had heard Jesus Name preached many times before, but it had always been taught with a harsh spirit. This gentleman in Valdosta broke the Truth with love, and it was this that pricked Sister Linda to see the necessity of being baptized in the name of the Lord.

Praise God!

[consapente89]

I'm not aware of the exact date it took place, but I do know that she saw Jesus Name while she was visiting in Georgia last month.

She attended a UPC assembly in Valdosta, where my Pastors met her, and while she was there, the pastor there did a study on Oneness and baptism in the name of Jesus. From what Sister Linda told my Pastors, she was pricked in her heart about what the pastor taught, and after discussing it with her husband, they decided that their family needed to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus.

Once she went back home (to Kentucky?), she and her family have started attending an Apostolic church there.

She had told my Pastors that she had heard Jesus Name preached many times before, but it had always been taught with a harsh spirit. This gentleman in Valdosta broke the Truth with love, and it was this that pricked Sister Linda to see the necessity of being baptized in the name of the Lord.

That's wonderful!!!! Praise God!

[consapente89]

You didn’t see that coming?

ehhhhh...no comment

[diakonos]

ehhhhh...no comment

I mean, I saw it from a mile away

[diakonos]

This is my favorite

https://youtu.be/5dbb7Yhp8b8

[Bro Flame]

I mean, I saw it from a mile away
I find it comforting that I'm so predictable for you all. :)

[MawMaw]

Sister Linda has written many Spirit-filled songs that are quite common to many Apostolic churches.

Some of them are:
"I'm One of Them"
"Funeral Plans"
"Didn't I Walk on the Water?"
"I Call Him My Everything"
"Tear Off the Roof"

I honestly hadn't any idea that Sister Linda had written the majority of these songs. The only one I knew for certain that she had penned was "I'm One of Them", but all the others I just unfairly assumed belonged to other artists. I could have sworn that "Didn't I Walk on the Water?" was written by the Dunaways, but I was wrong.

I was privileged to meet Sister Linda back on June 10, 2020, when my Pastors invited her to be with us at our three Sunday services on our first day back (to one of our churches at least) after the Covid-19 pandemic had us all quarantined, and we decided to do some interior remodeling.

The night Sister Linda was with us at our home church turned out to be the night I proposed to my girlfriend of over a year. I remember Sister Linda crying and later commenting at how sweet she thought it was that I wanted my proposal to be special and for doing it in front of (practically) our entire church family. Naturally, my fiancee and I had to get a picture with her to remember the occasion.

Have any of you meet this dear Sister?

I've never met her, but would love to! Love to hear her sing and worship!
I'm like you, I always thought the Dunaway's wrote, "Didn't I Walk On The Water"
So thankful to know she was shown more perfectly, the Word of God.

[consapente89]

Hopefully Sister Linda's conversion will cause quite a stir in the trinitarian movement she was a part of, and cause several others to follow suit!

[Bro Flame]

I've never met her, but would love to! Love to hear her sing and worship!
I'm like you, I always thought the Dunaway's wrote, "Didn't I Walk On The Water"
So thankful to know she was shown more perfectly, the Word of God.
She has an exceptionally powerful and anointed voice, which is exactly why her songs are so Spirit-filled, especially when she sings them. I've been Facebook friends with her for the past few years, and it was nice to finally meet her in person. She has such a sweet, compassionate, humble spirit. She's a dear, genuine Sister in the Lord with a God-given talent and ministry. She fit perfectly in with our churches. It was like she had always been there.

Yes, if I were a betting man, I would've almost put money on the Dunaways having written "Didn't I Walk on the Water?" It's a powerful song, and I've heard them sing it the most often. Maybe that's why I thought they had written it. Sister Linda sang it at one of our churches, and she explained the real-life inspiration behind it. It definitely made the song more personal to her when she sang it that day for us. (By the way, I'm sure everyone here is well-aware that the Dunaways are Apostolic as well.)

I was totally psyched when I was told that Sister Linda had saw Jesus Name and had decided in her heart to embrace it as Truth. Like I said, she's such a sweet and humble woman, that it was almost unthinkable that she hadn't already seen Jesus Name after meeting her. Her spirit clicked with our churches, and she was even led to pray for a young lady in our church that had got some concerning news from her doctor shortly after learning she was pregnant. The Holy Ghost moved powerfully as she laid hands on this Sister and asked God for a complete healing.

[Bro Flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsVAwaRd6g

Sister Linda shared this video on Facebook some weeks back, commenting how she loved this young group and their strong holiness standard for God. They are called The Meadows, and I'm not entirely sure if they're Apostolic or Pentecostal Holiness.

It's a good song regardless to what they are. I feel the Lord listening to it.

[navygoat1998]

Hopefully Sister Linda's conversion will cause quite a stir in the trinitarian movement she was a part of, and cause several others to follow suit!

:heeheehee

[Bro Flame]

:heeheehee
Well, it would certainly be a blessing if more Trinitarians saw Jesus Name and embraced it as Truth, but I'm afraid many of them have denied such doctrine long ago and are perhaps blinded from seeing it.

[diakonos]

Well, it would certainly be a blessing if more Trinitarians saw Jesus Name and embraced it as Truth, but I'm afraid many of them have denied such doctrine long ago and are perhaps blinded from seeing it.

Do you know why he is laughing?

[MawMaw]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsVAwaRd6g

Sister Linda shared this video on Facebook some weeks back, commenting how she loved this young group and their strong holiness standard for God. They are called The Meadows, and I'm not entirely sure if they're Apostolic or Pentecostal Holiness.

It's a good song regardless to what they are. I feel the Lord listening to it.

Great sound! Thanks for sharing! I didn't check to see if they had any cd's available or where you could get one if they did?

[diakonos]

Great sound! Thanks for sharing! I didn't check to see if they had any cd's available or where you could get one if they did?

https://themeadowsmusic.com/home

[Bro Flame]

Do you know why he is laughing?
Not really. I was just saying how it would be great if more Trinitarians saw Jesus Name and embraced it. I guess my reply could have went without quoting his, but it's too late for that now. :heeheehee

[Bro Flame]

Great sound! Thanks for sharing! I didn't check to see if they had any cd's available or where you could get one if they did?
They do have a very good sound. I enjoy what I've heard of their music.

[diakonos]

Not really. I was just saying how it would be great if more Trinitarians saw Jesus Name and embraced it. I guess my reply could have went without quoting his, but it's too late for that now. :heeheehee

He was UPCI. Now he’s A of G.

[consapente89]

A of the gs

[consapente89]

:heeheehee

repent

[diakonos]

A of the gs

That’s not nice and not quite accurate.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Pretty sure she is trinity.

And still is.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I say Pastors because my churches are co-pastored by a husband and wife that work in unity for God.

And I say churches because my Pastors are overseeing three separate churches (or buildings), but yet we're all in unity as one.

Husband and Wife both pastors, isn’t that swell.

[MawMaw]

https://themeadowsmusic.com/home

Thanks! :highfive

[MawMaw]

They do have a very good sound. I enjoy what I've heard of their music.

Me too! :thumbsup

[diakonos]

And still is.

So, Linda is lying. Or dude’s pastor and pastorette are lying. Or dude is lying.

[Bro Flame]

And still is.
Did she tell you she was?

[Bro Flame]

Husband and Wife both pastors, isn’t that swell.
I'm glad you agree. It is swell. I'm glad to be a part of an anointed, God-ordained church and ministry. Our church is full of love, compassion, and the Spirit of God, and it's shepherded by two pastors that love the Lord and His people.

[Bro Flame]

So, Linda is lying. Or dude’s pastor and pastorette are lying. Or dude is lying.
Certainly am not lying, but I guess I wouldn't know. :heeheehee

[Evang.Benincasa]

So, Linda is lying. Or dude’s pastor and pastorette are lying. Or dude is lying.

What I can’t doubt the whole story? Holy Roller is the Dude? Funny :heeheehee

[Evang.Benincasa]

Did she tell you she was?

I just know the drill. You just mount your trophys a little soon.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I'm glad you agree. It is swell. I'm glad to be a part of an anointed, God-ordained church and ministry. Our church is full of love, compassion, and the Spirit of God, and it's shepherded by two pastors that love the Lord and His people.

Do they have children?

[consapente89]

That’s not nice and not quite accurate.

Maybe you're right. However, it's more accurate than A of G.

[consapente89]

I just know the drill. You just mount your trophys a little soon.

I get that. Time will tell. Hopefully she fully embraces the oneness of God and Acts 2:38 and influences several other trinitarians.

[navygoat1998]

I get that. Time will tell. Hopefully she fully embraces the oneness of God and Acts 2:38 and influences several other trinitarians.


I personally do not go out of my way to sway Oneness folks one way or the other. I am an ordained Assembly of God minster and also a Florida Department corrections chaplain. There is a group of Apostolic inmates who talk to me all the time and they ask me Chap why did you leave the "truth" I tell them our story. I tell those men to just seek God and strive for the kingdom and walk in the understanding that Christ has given them. They are seeking more of Christ and for that I rejoice.

If you could please remember those men who are incarcerated in your prayers, I covet your prayers, in this season of Covid it is hard behind the fence.

I got the word that my worship leader from my last camp has passed away and to some he is just another convict, to me he was a man that I would work with regularly, he was always around the chapel. It hurt my heart!

[Bro Flame]

Do they have children?
Four daughters, one son.

[Bro Flame]

I just know the drill. You just mount your trophys a little soon.
Not trophies, brother. Just knowing what I know to be true. She saw Jesus Name and has corrected what she once believed.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I get that. Time will tell. Hopefully she fully embraces the oneness of God and Acts 2:38 and influences several other trinitarians.

When I was in Arcadia Florida I met with the nastiest Holiness Church of gods.
One of their pastors at Brownsville Church of gods in Desoto county preached that One God Apostolics had devils in them. That when we spoke in tongues it was due to demon possession. We baptized plenty CoG, but alas there are many variables which cause religious people not to take root. The woman in which this thread is dedicated to is a headliner? Correct? So she has a following? Again a lot of varibles. She got baptized in Jesus name? Great, but now and tomorrow is the true test of time. Blowing the trumpet goes all the way back for this movement. Ever since they parted ways with the (trying to) Assemble God.
Even back then AoG leadership got revelation, then in due time, back peddled because of own personal thoughts and feelings. Having more to do with love of political or popular position.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Not trophies, brother. Just knowing what I know to be true. She saw Jesus Name and has corrected what she once believed.

Bro, all you know is that someone got baptized in Jesus name.
Seriously that’s all you know.

[Bro Flame]

Bro, all you know is that someone got baptized in Jesus name.
Seriously that’s all you know.
Okay. :)

[Evang.Benincasa]

Four daughters, one son.

So, are they part of this All in the Family ministry?
I’m just trying to understand how the clergy includes a wife, logically would also include children, aunts, uncles? Was Peter’s wife a co Apostle?

[consapente89]

I’ve seen this man and wife pastoral team a lot in Charismatic churches, but not really in Apostolic ranks. At least not officially. I’ve seen a few churches where ....well nevermind.

So in a case such as this, you have Pastor Smith and Mrs. Pastor Smith? The Mrs. Pastor is also making decisions for the church and “correcting, rebuking and reproving”...the men also?

[consapente89]

So, are they part of this All in the Family ministry?
I’m just trying to understand how the clergy includes a wife, logically would also include children, aunts, uncles? Was Peter’s wife a co Apostle?

Maybe Peter’s wife was half his ministry. Wouldn’t that make Peter half an Apostle?

[diakonos]

I’m sorry (not really, just an expression), but co-pastor wife the pastorette gets to me AS MUCH AS this “First Lady” nonsense.

[aegsm76]

I’ve seen this man and wife pastoral team a lot in Charismatic churches, but not really in Apostolic ranks. At least not officially. I’ve seen a few churches where ....well nevermind.

So in a case such as this, you have Pastor Smith and Mrs. Pastor Smith? The Mrs. Pastor is also making decisions for the church and “correcting, rebuking and reproving”...the men also?

By pastoral team, do you mean "preaching"?

[diakonos]

By pastoral team, do you mean "preaching"?

He’s no longer here because Benincasa ran him off. Anyway, probably so. He has previously stated that his then girlfriend- now fiancé is a powerful woman of God (preacher).

[Evang.Benincasa]

He’s no longer here because Benincasa ran him off. Anyway, probably so. He has previously stated that his then girlfriend- now fiancé is a powerful woman of God (preacher).

What did I do? Didn't this happen once before? We got a good bye Forum thread? Then the Admin (all one of them) explained that we had to be a little more gentle with the young lad. I'll go look for the last thread HR gave us the left foot of fellowship.

[diakonos]

What did I do? Didn't this happen once before? We got a good bye Forum thread? Then the Admin (all one of them) explained that we had to be a little more gentle with the young lad. I'll go look for the last thread HR gave us the left foot of fellowship.

Yes. You weren’t gentle enough. You’re suavitel when we’re needing snuggle. Or downy.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Yes. You weren’t gentle enough. You’re suavitel when we’re needing snuggle. Or downy.

Still, I don't have the foggiest idea on what I could've done.

[diakonos]

Still, I don't have the foggiest idea on what I could've done.

You commented on his lady-man-of-God...

[Evang.Benincasa]

You commented on his lady-man-of-God...


Recently?

Last post dialogue between us I mentioned the whole scenario concerning the husband and wife joint pastoring team. I then asked the logical questions concerning the offspring of the two pastors. Since marriage alone causes a joint "calling" into eldership. I honestly wondered if we should explore the larger implications of the physical offspring of this ministerial union. If the calling covers the spouse, does it also include the "kids?" I don't know, but while one may be called of God, not everyone in that family have or are even required to be "ministry." Let alone, a pastor, an evangelist, a prophet, an apostle or a teacher. While the pastor, or elder is a whiz at theological subjects, his spouse may be at a loss to handle the word as well as her husband. Or expounding the word or the most important "leadership" while the husband may be an excellent called leader his wife may be totally unskilled to manage as well as her husband. Men lead men, women do a lousy job as men, and visa versa. Just asked the young man some questions. If that is where I commited a crime, so be it. I promise him, I won't be the last to ask the questions. May the Lord bless him to not be able to escape via the keyboard, and that he will have to deal with it face to face.

[Bro Flame]

Here we are some three years after I started this thread.

Sis Linda is still Jesus Name. She has came back to our church a few times, blessed us with her ministry of songs. She has testified of how some Trinitarian churches are now "hostile" towards her for being "too Apostolic". In her song, "I'm a Pentecostal," she sometimes sings now as "I'm an Apostolic" with too many things having changed in her "Apostolic mind".

My wife and I are blessed and moving forward in God. We've had a few valleys, some deep, deep valleys, but God's been faithful in pulling us through. We've both grown in the Lord and we've both allowed him to use us more and more.

My pastors, my in-laws, are still pushing ahead in leading our church towards Christ. We've had some good preaching, strong moves of the Spirit, you name it. We've had new families come in, get delivered, baptized in Jesus' name, filled with the Holy Ghost. Praise God!

Can't deny what God is doing and who He uses to do it!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Can't deny what God is doing and who He uses to do it!

The Bible one time mentions an Ass speaking with a man's voice to correct an individual. Yet, we don't enlist barnyard animals to preach to a congregation. Telling people we can't deny results and claiming those results are God ordained isn't wise. Reason being many "groups" can say the same thing, while looking over at your results and seeing them as poor. Mormons, Joe Witnesses, Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel Industrial Church Complex would say that we shouldn't deny what God is doing with them. Joe Smith's Elders are from sea to shining sea. Now, should we then use your measurement of "results" as the standard of Biblical truth?

[diakonos]

If she is “one of us” why is she still “one of them?”

[Bro Flame]

The Bible one time mentions an Ass speaking with a man's voice to correct an individual. Yet, we don't enlist barnyard animals to preach to a congregation. Telling people we can't deny results and claiming those results are God ordained isn't wise. Reason being many "groups" can say the same thing, while looking over at your results and seeing them as poor. Mormons, Joe Witnesses, Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel Industrial Church Complex would say that we shouldn't deny what God is doing with them. Joe Smith's Elders are from sea to shining sea. Now, should we then use your measurement of "results" as the standard of Biblical truth?

Brother, God can and does use who He wishes to spread the Word. Not some false, counterfeit gospel. But God uses men, women, children, and the like to spread this Jesus Name Acts 2:38 message.

If people weren't called because of their gender, then the anointing wouldn't fall when they preach.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Brother, God can and does use who He wishes to spread the Word. Not some false, counterfeit gospel. But God uses men, women, children, and the like to spread this Jesus Name Acts 2:38 message.

If people weren't called because of their gender, then the anointing wouldn't fall when they preach.

Actually, we blame God for a lot of nonsense He never advocated. Just like the false teachers I mentioned, sadly some Apostolic Pentecostals follow suit. God never ordained women or children to preach and teach married men, and their families. Romanticizing the idea that God will use women, children, and mules as eldership is unbiblical, and ridiculous. God used the donkey once, the child with his lunch basket once, the women at the grave once. Yet, none of the 12 apostles were donkeys, women, or children. Isaiah 3:12 wasn’t written by a woman, a donkey, or a child. The prophet was a man.

[Esaias]

Brother, God can and does use who He wishes to spread the Word. Not some false, counterfeit gospel. But God uses men, women, children, and the like to spread this Jesus Name Acts 2:38 message.

If people weren't called because of their gender, then the anointing wouldn't fall when they preach.

Please provide book, chapter, and verse from the Holy Bible where somebody preached and "the anointing fell".

[diakonos]

Please provide book, chapter, and verse from the Holy Bible where somebody preached and "the anointing fell".

Oh, this is a good one.

[Amanah]

Please provide book, chapter, and verse from the Holy Bible where somebody preached and "the anointing fell".

There is a presence of the Lord associated with the gospel.

1 Thessalonians 1:5

For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in POWER, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

Strong’s Definitions
δύναμις dýnamis, doo'-nam-is; from G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specially, miraculous power (usually by implication, a miracle itself):—ability, abundance, meaning, might(-ily, -y, -y deed), (worker of) miracle(-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work.

Acts 10:44
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost FELL on all them which heard the word.”

Strong’s Definitions
ἐπιπίπτω epipíptō, ep-ee-pip'-to; from G1909 and G4098; to embrace (with affection) or seize (with more or less violence; literally or figuratively):—fall into (on, upon) lie on, press upon.


Luke 4:18-19
King James Version
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath ANOINTED me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 5x
The KJV translates Strong's G5548 in the following manner: anoint (5x).

Outline of Biblical Usage
to anoint

consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with the necessary powers for its administration

enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit

............

Conclusion: the Holy Ghost "falls" on people when the gospel is preached for the purpose of commissioning, gifting, healing, and delivering believers.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Maybe Peter’s wife was half his ministry. Wouldn’t that make Peter half an Apostle?

:heeheehee

[Evang.Benincasa]

I’m sorry (not really, just an expression), but co-pastor wife the pastorette gets to me AS MUCH AS this “First Lady” nonsense.

:highfive

[Evang.Benincasa]

If she is “one of us” why is she still “one of them?”

:thumbsup

[diakonos]

I just visited her Facebook page. So she still sings at Trinidadian churches, and J guess some UPCI’s.

I find it odd… that UPCI would have her. Is it because of her… notoriety or whatever?

Shouldn’t a newb be benched until they grow in the faith? I guess it wouldn’t matter if they are PCI in doctrine, but, I can’t tell.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I just visited her Facebook page. So she still sings at Trinidadian churches, and J guess some UPCI’s.

I find it odd… that UPCI would have her. Is it because of her… notoriety or whatever?

Shouldn’t a newb be benched until they grow in the faith? I guess it wouldn’t matter if they are PCI in doctrine, but, I can’t tell.

UPC doesn’t mind using Trinitarians. A UPC assembly located in Cooper City Florida puts Rabbis on the platform. While not all UPC preachers will go for putting Christ denying Rabbis, and Three god preachers on their platforms. There are sadly those who will.

[Amanah]

UPC doesn’t mind using Trinitarians. A UPC assembly located in Cooper City Florida puts Rabbis on the platform. While not all UPC preachers will go for putting Christ denying Rabbis, and Three god preachers on their platforms. There are sadly those who will.

Why not? they put Christmas trees on their platforms and participate in pagan festivals. If they didn't allow women to help in ministry, the few men who do attend church would have quit streaming Netflix and Sports and get a prayer life, good luck with that.

[diakonos]

Why not? they put Christmas trees on their platforms and participate in pagan festivals. If they didn't allow women to help in ministry, the few men who do attend church would have quit streaming Netflix and Sports and get a prayer life, good luck with that.

Churches are designed for women. Everything from the decor to the songs.

It’s common to have Mother’s Day messages about the amazing super hero mom in a cape.
Father’s Day messages are about stupid cave men that are lacking in every way, and need to do better.
Not a UPCI issue, churches all across this nation.

[Amanah]

Churches are designed for women. Everything from the decor to the songs.

It’s common to have Mother’s Day messages about the amazing super hero mom in a cape.
Father’s Day messages are about stupid cave men that are lacking in every way, and need to do better.
Not a UPCI issue, churches all across this nation.


It's an issue in our culture in general.
Most of the problems in our society are due to homes with no husbands/Father's. Most people in prison, most suicides, most drug addicts come from fatherless homes.

[coksiw]

Please provide book, chapter, and verse from the Holy Bible where somebody preached and "the anointing fell".

Good point.

All demonstrations of the Spirit mentioned as result of a preaching are related with evangelistic preaching that God backs with signs and responds with the baptism of the Spirit to those that do not have it.

The power of God during regular meeting among believers are manifestations of the gifts of the Spirit among the congregation. The modern definition of “an anointed service”, or the “anointing fell”, as I have heard people use it, simply means, there was conviction, manifestation of gifts, great encouragement, someone converted, etc…

It reminds me of this verse:
Acts 15:32 (NKJV): Now Judas and Silas, themselves being prophets also, exhorted and strengthened the brethren with many words.

Anyways, Pentecostals use words today that are not very accurate, sometimes even not Biblical, and sometimes straight confusing especially to new converts that are just getting started reading the Bible.
That’s the Pentecostal lingo, which needs “interpretation” sometimes, lol.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Why not? they put Christmas trees on their platforms and participate in pagan festivals. If they didn't allow women to help in ministry, the few men who do attend church would have quit streaming Netflix and Sports and get a prayer life, good luck with that.

:thumbsup

[Evang.Benincasa]

Churches are designed for women. Everything from the decor to the songs.

It’s common to have Mother’s Day messages about the amazing super hero mom in a cape.
Father’s Day messages are about stupid cave men that are lacking in every way, and need to do better.
Not a UPCI issue, churches all across this nation.

Plus don't forget a system where the man is overruled in his family's leadership role by a pastor. Where some groups will say that the husband and father's decisions are second to the pastor. Causing spiritual castration.

[diakonos]

Plus don't forget a system where the man is overruled in his family's leadership role by a pastor. Where some groups will say that the husband and father's decisions are second to the pastor. Causing spiritual castration.

This right here!

[Tithesmeister]

Plus don't forget a system where the man is overruled in his family's leadership role by a pastor. Where some groups will say that the husband and father's decisions are second to the pastor. Causing spiritual castration.

Amen brother! I was explaining this to my wife in the past month or so.

People wonder why women lose their husbands in the apostolic church?

Because they have another man that they observe as their head!

The husband is disrespected, gets enough of it, leaves for another woman. The wife of course doesn’t understand. She has obeyed her head (aka her pastor) while disrespecting her head that she is supposed to follow (her husband).

Is is any wonder that she loses her husband, but retains her pastor? No, of course not! She has retained the man that she considers her leader. (Her pastor).

And she has lost the man that she didn’t regard as her leader. (Her husband).

False doctrine has consequences.

So does true doctrine.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Amen brother! I was explaining this to my wife in the past month or so.

People wonder why women lose their husbands in the apostolic church?

Because they have another man that they observe as their head!

The husband is disrespected, gets enough of it, leaves for another woman. The wife of course doesn’t understand. She has obeyed her head (aka her pastor) while disrespecting her head that she is supposed to follow (her husband).

Is is any wonder that she loses her husband, but retains her pastor? No, of course not! She has retained the man that she considers her leader. (Her pastor).

And she has lost the man that she didn’t regard as her leader. (Her husband).

False doctrine has consequences.

So does true doctrine.

So, what do you call a church that has a large group of women (varying ages) who are all submitted to the pastor? Don't get me wrong, I believe in leadership authority. Yet, that authority must govern scripturally. Wives submit yourselves unto your own husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. That is pretty plain. Just as a female cannot be a minister over married men, because it places everything in Biblical leadership on its head. A pastor cannot usurp the authority of a husband. It would be spiritual adultery. For the pastor to usurp the husband's authority and the husband to allow such behavior. It would be considered spiritual castration. Therefore a female pastor would take this scenario to the level of abomination. Almost makes one feel like they been washed in a cess pool.