Fulfilled Eschatology

[diakonos]

Anyone know do there are any churches near Rogers, Ar that teach fulfilled eschatology? Preferably partial preterism, but not completely opposed to fulfilled.

[Esaias]

There was one, but that was in the past... :)

[Amanah]

Anyone know do there are any churches near Rogers, Ar that teach fulfilled eschatology? Preferably partial preterism, but not completely opposed to fulfilled.

I feel for you Bro. Let me know if you hear of a oneness apostolic, sabbath-keeping, anti-pagan-holidays, historicism-eschatology group in my neck of the woods.

[Nicodemus1968]

I feel for you Bro. Let me know if you hear of a oneness apostolic, sabbath-keeping, anti-pagan-holidays, historicism-eschatology group in my neck of the woods.

I think you’re wanting to go to Esaias church.

[diakonos]

I think you’re wanting to go to Esaias church.

Oh the guy that can’t return a text

[Nicodemus1968]

Oh the guy that can’t return a text

???

[diakonos]

???

I sent a text weeks ago

[TGBTG]

I feel for you Bro. Let me know if you hear of a oneness apostolic, sabbath-keeping, anti-pagan-holidays, historicism-eschatology group in my neck of the woods.

Now you’re sabbath keeping??...wow

[Esaias]

I sent a text weeks ago

You going by a different name? What text? I checked my inbox and saw one from someone else, thought they had made this post, checked back and saw it was you instead.

So what text did I miss?

Edit: last pm I got from you was back in February. You asked about a church, I mentioned one, you said it was too far from you.

?????

[Esaias]

Now you’re sabbath keeping??...wow

Amazing how some Christians prefer God's calendar to the world's, right?

:thumbsup

[Amanah]

Now you’re sabbath keeping??...wow

If it's good enough for God, it's good enough for me

Genesis 2
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

[diakonos]

You going by a different name? What text? I checked my inbox and saw one from someone else, thought they had made this post, checked back and saw it was you instead.

So what text did I miss?

Edit: last pm I got from you was back in February. You asked about a church, I mentioned one, you said it was too far from you.

?????

I was like, “what are you smoking this morning?” Then I read the posts and see how we got here. My fault.

No. Nic is the guy that can’t return a text.

[Esaias]

I was like, “what are you smoking this morning?” Then I read the posts and see how we got here. My fault.

No. Nic is the guy that can’t return a text.

Ha! Got it.

:highfive

[TJJJ]

Most Sabbath Keepers don't understand that the Holy Ghost was the fulfilling of the Sabbath.

This is the REST! This is the REFRESHING!

Stammering lips and another tongue fulfilled the Sabbath.

When you are still stuck on a day of the week versus the fulfillment you end up being a lawkeeper versus a New Covenant believer.

[Esaias]

Most Sabbath Keepers don't understand that the Holy Ghost was the fulfilling of the Sabbath.

This is the REST! This is the REFRESHING!

Stammering lips and another tongue fulfilled the Sabbath.

When you are still stuck on a day of the week versus the fulfillment you end up being a lawkeeper versus a New Covenant believer.

Romans 3:31 KJV
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 2:12-16 KJV
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; [13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [14] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: [15] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) [16] In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Romans 6:1-18 KJV
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: [6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him , that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [7] For he that is dead is freed from sin. [8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: [9] Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. [10] For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. [11] Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? [17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 8:1-14 KJV
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. [9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. [10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. [11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. [12] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. [13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

[Esaias]

Most Sabbath Keepers don't understand that the Holy Ghost was the fulfilling of the Sabbath.

This is the REST! This is the REFRESHING!

Stammering lips and another tongue fulfilled the Sabbath.

When you are still stuck on a day of the week versus the fulfillment you end up being a lawkeeper versus a New Covenant believer.

1 John 3:2-10 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. [3] And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. [5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. [6] Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. [7] Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. [8] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. [9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10] In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 2:1-6 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. [5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. [6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Revelation 12:17 KJV
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[Esaias]

Most Sabbath Keepers don't understand that the Holy Ghost was the fulfilling of the Sabbath.

This is the REST! This is the REFRESHING!

Stammering lips and another tongue fulfilled the Sabbath.

When you are still stuck on a day of the week versus the fulfillment you end up being a lawkeeper versus a New Covenant believer.

What was the fulfilling of the first commandment? And the second and third? How about the fifth? 6th? 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th?

If having the Holy Ghost means you do not have to do what the 4th commandment says, then having the Holy Ghost means you don't have to do what the 5th commandment says either. Or any of the others for that matter.

So according to your reasoning, people who honour their mother and father are stuck being lawkeepers versus a new covenant believer. So, according to you, in order to be a saved Christian, you have to make sure you DON'T OBEY GOD, but instead you must TRANSGRESS GOD'S COMMANDMENTS.

Interesting doctrine you have there.