The Chip-In Another Form

[Ron]

Hey, let's all get implanted. New uses for an implantable chip.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070626/hl_afp/ushealthsciencetechnology

[jwharv]

NO thanks.....................

[BrotherEastman]

NO thanks.....................
ditto....

[mfblume]

not again... lol

In the 1800's one preacher thought Revelation was being fulfilled when he noticed the warriers of his day rode horseback, and the "hair like women" was the mane of the horses, and the faces like men were the riders' faces leaning down where the horses' manes flowed in the wind, and the sulphur and brimstone was the gunpowder from their pistols.

Same trend again.

[Revelationist]

Hey, let's all get implanted. New uses for an implantable chip.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070626/hl_afp/ushealthsciencetechnology

This is a great idea... I won't have to put up with a pesky bracelet.....

[berkeley]

not again... lol

In the 1800's one preacher thought Revelation was being fulfilled when he noticed the warriers of his day rode horseback, and the "hair like women" was the mane of the horses, and the faces like men were the riders' faces leaning down where the horses' manes flowed in the wind, and the sulphur and brimstone was the gunpowder from their pistols.

Same trend again.

:lol:lol:lol

[jwharv]

not again... lol

In the 1800's one preacher thought Revelation was being fulfilled when he noticed the warriers of his day rode horseback, and the "hair like women" was the mane of the horses, and the faces like men were the riders' faces leaning down where the horses' manes flowed in the wind, and the sulphur and brimstone was the gunpowder from their pistols.

Same trend again.


I don't think this chip has anything to do with prophecy. I just don't want one. I am not to big on smart chips and all that. I would hate to die from a computer virus or a typo from whoever loads the data.............

[Sam]

not again... lol

In the 1800's one preacher thought Revelation was being fulfilled when he noticed the warriers of his day rode horseback, and the "hair like women" was the mane of the horses, and the faces like men were the riders' faces leaning down where the horses' manes flowed in the wind, and the sulphur and brimstone was the gunpowder from their pistols.

Same trend again.

Must've been a preterist.

j/k

[pelathais]

The use of a computer chip "in the right hand" and "in the forehead" as some expect is in fact not very likely at all, no matter if you're a preterist or not.

The chips need to be injected into a rather fleshy area like the thigh or upper arm. Special Forces troops that have radio locator responders implanted almost universally have them in their thighs. A few opt for the upper arm/shoulder area because of the belief that they'll get marginally better radio reception. And, the chips move around and tend to migrate up to the surface of the skin - like an old splinter. People will be scratching the things out in their sleep.

Can you imagine having anything implated in your forehead or the back of your hand (as Revelation 13 seems to suggest). This idea gets promoted a lot (http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/). On that site they've photoshopped a "chip" into a jpg of an x-ray of a human hand. No doctor would suggest such a sight for such an implant.

This just doesn't pass the feasibility test with me. It seems that something else was in mind as far as "the mark" is concerned (compare, for example, Deuteronomy 6:1-8), like maybe obedience to His word. In the case of Rev. 13, it would be disobedience to God's word and a willful complicity with the commands of the adversary.

Is God going to have angels implant microchips into the foreheads of the 144,000? (Revelation 7). No one ever preaches that. Yet to be consistent - if a "mark" must be an injected chip in Rev. 13, then "mark" must also be understood as an injected chip in Rev. 7.

If so, will there be some sort of Intel/AMD type of battle that has to be fought out before the time of the end? What if the angels (or even The Beast) have moved beyond the X86 architecture but the majority of humanity has failed to upgrade? Will there be some sort of firmware download that will make everyone compliant?

No, I believe God (and even the devil) has something in mind that will not even remotely resemble the evil of today's computer and electronics industry. And that is a blessed hope.

[Praxeas]

The use of a computer chip "in the right hand" and "in the forehead" as some expect is in fact not very likely at all, no matter if you're a preterist or not.

The chips need to be injected into a rather fleshy area like the thigh or upper arm. Special Forces troops that have radio locator responders implanted almost universally have them in their thighs. A few opt for the upper arm/shoulder area because of the belief that they'll get marginally better radio reception. And, the chips move around and tend to migrate up to the surface of the skin - like an old splinter. People will be scratching the things out in their sleep.

Can you imagine having anything implated in your forehead or the back of your hand (as Revelation 13 seems to suggest). This idea gets promoted a lot (http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/). On that site they've photoshopped a "chip" into a jpg of an x-ray of a human hand. No doctor would suggest such a sight for such an implant.

This just doesn't pass the feasibility test with me. It seems that something else was in mind as far as "the mark" is concerned (compare, for example, Deuteronomy 6:1-8), like maybe obedience to His word. In the case of Rev. 13, it would be disobedience to God's word and a willful complicity with the commands of the adversary.

Is God going to have angels implant microchips into the foreheads of the 144,000? (Revelation 7). No one ever preaches that. Yet to be consistent - if a "mark" must be an injected chip in Rev. 13, then "mark" must also be understood as an injected chip in Rev. 7.

If so, will there be some sort of Intel/AMD type of battle that has to be fought out before the time of the end? What if the angels (or even The Beast) have moved beyond the X86 architecture but the majority of humanity has failed to upgrade? Will there be some sort of firmware download that will make everyone compliant?

No, I believe God (and even the devil) has something in mind that will not even remotely resemble the evil of today's computer and electronics industry. And that is a blessed hope.

Bellingham entrepreneur Amal Graafstra has given a new meaning to hands-on technology.


In each hand, between his thumb and index finger, is a microchip implant, which he can use to open doors to his apartment and car and sign on to his computer.


The one in his left hand was designed for tracking wildlife, among other things.


He ordered both chips for less than $5 each on the Internet.
"I saw pets getting these things for years, and then I heard about people getting the chip implant," he said. "I wanted to use that technology so I don't have to carry any keys."


Graafstra, 29, is one of a small but growing number of people experimenting with RFID chips in their bodies. He plans to talk about his project at 7 p.m. today at an event called Dorkbot at Seattle's Center on Contemporary Art. At the event, a local cosmetic doctor will implant the chip in a Canadian robotics enthusiast.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002835871_chipimplant01.html

[Hoovie]

I made potato chips last night and implanted about 45 of them in my stomache.... do that count?

[Sheltiedad]

Let us know how it comes out. :D

[Sheltiedad]

I believe by the time they get to a global database of people, we will be fully into biometrics (using existing unique characteristics of each person to identify them - such as fingerprints, retina scans, etc.) making any chip irrelevant... no reason to store the data on the person as they expand the limits of database software and servers. Your unique identifier just lets you log in and probably some passcode or something to help prevent against someone trying to duplicate that characteristic.

You can already buy laptops with fingerprint readers and I believe some jobs use them as time clocks.

[Destiny2]

My pacemaker has a chip in it that has been programmed with pertinant information,even has the doctors name ,hospital chart number, ect,one thing about it is, that any hospital with a scanner could access my medical information.

[mfblume]

Just something to consider: The mark of the beast is on the right hand or forehead. Interpretation is made for this by reading the rest of the bible. One finds in Deut 6:5-8 where the law of God was to be so endearing to the people that it was said to be put in the heart, soul and might of the people, represented by the forehead (soul) and hand (might). The mark of the beast is SATAN'S ANSWER TO THE LAW OF GOD.

This was directed By Moses when God gave the ten commandments, and found the people worshipping an IMAGE OF A BEAST (golden calf), satan's answer to worship of God.

And the image of the beast is in the same Rev 13 that the mark is in. This is how I personally study these issues out. Find the same picture in the rest of the bible.

[berkeley]

This is how I personally study these issues out. Find the same picture in the rest of the bible.

which leads to Preterism.. LoL

[mfblume]

which leads to Preterism.. LoL

Properly reading the bible always leads to truth! Makes sense. :) Gotta let the bible speak for itself.

[berkeley]

Properly reading the bible always leads to truth! Makes sense. :) Gotta let the bible speak for itself.

Well, I may be off somewhere.. My posts did not lead you to Futurism... but we'll really never know where I am at today re: eschatology!! :haloplug