Literal tyranny in our time

[Jito463]

I'm sure we've all seen the draconian measures implemented in places like China, Australia, Canada, etc., trying to force people into getting the jab. Even worse is the level of propaganda being pushed on people, like this horrifying clip (at the bottom) of kids being used to push the idea that the unvaxxed should be criminalized.

However, things aren't looking so good here in the States, either. A new Rasmussen poll (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_ against_unvaccinated) (and I do acknowledge that polls are largely unreliable, but it's still worth noting), reports that:

– Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
More than half of the polled Dems think we should be locked up if we don't get the jab. On the flip side:
Such a proposal is opposed by 61% of all likely voters, including 79% of Republicans and 71% of unaffiliated voters.
While I'd like to say those numbers are promising, I'm still concerned that there are that many - regardless of political affiliation - that think this is okay. And on top of that:
55% of Democratic voters would support...a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine.And if locking us up in our homes wasn't enough:
Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.And finally, we get to the Australia method:
Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

And here's the video I mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l92Qkh1qmps

[coksiw]

That's terrible. Thankfully we have lots of conservatives in this country.

At the end God's will will be done:

Psa 33:10-11 NKJV - 10 The LORD brings the counsel of the nations to nothing; He makes the plans of the peoples of no effect. 11 The counsel of the LORD stands forever, The plans of His heart to all generations.

[Nicodemus1968]

God will judge this country.

Yet, the church is going to prosper, even through the hardest of times. Jesus will provide for his bride.

We can all understanding the dividing of the country, but we're also seeing the dividing among brethren (believers) as well.

I seen a preacher quoting all these statistics about how many preachers during the covid pandemic have decided to either quit the ministry all together and or resign. How UPC church attendance in churches comparing pre pandemic to post pandemic is like 60-70% back to what it was. Some Churches are only having services twice a month, Ive heard this phrase, "internet revival", a church in California is now baptizing people in another country over FaceTime, the person self dunks, and the person on the phone says, "I now baptize you in Jesus name".

I find that more alarming than the direction this country is going.

There is coming a division among believers from that believe and those that play church. And God will let you choose what side you're one.

[votivesoul]

God will judge this country.

Yet, the church is going to prosper, even through the hardest of times. Jesus will provide for his bride.

We can all understanding the dividing of the country, but we're also seeing the dividing among brethren (believers) as well.

I seen a preacher quoting all these statistics about how many preachers during the covid pandemic have decided to either quit the ministry all together and or resign. How UPC church attendance in churches comparing pre pandemic to post pandemic is like 60-70% back to what it was. Some Churches are only having services twice a month, Ive heard this phrase, "internet revival", a church in California is now baptizing people in another country over FaceTime, the person self dunks, and the person on the phone says, "I now baptize you in Jesus name".

I find that more alarming than the direction this country is going.

There is coming a division among believers from that believe and those that play church. And God will let you choose what side you're one.

Brother, will you provide some documentation to the church in Cali doing baptisms this way? I would like to know more.

[Esaias]

I'm sure we've all seen the draconian measures implemented in places like China, Australia, Canada, etc., trying to force people into getting the jab. Even worse is the level of propaganda being pushed on people, like this horrifying clip (at the bottom) of kids being used to push the idea that the unvaxxed should be criminalized.

However, things aren't looking so good here in the States, either. A new Rasmussen poll (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_ against_unvaccinated) (and I do acknowledge that polls are largely unreliable, but it's still worth noting), reports that:


More than half of the polled Dems think we should be locked up if we don't get the jab. On the flip side:

While I'd like to say those numbers are promising, I'm still concerned that there are that many - regardless of political affiliation - that think this is okay. And on top of that:
And if locking us up in our homes wasn't enough:
And finally, we get to the Australia method:


And here's the video I mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l92Qkh1qmps

"Democrat voters" are basically communists.

Everyone loves a witch hunt... as long as it's the other side's witches being hunted.

[Nicodemus1968]

Brother, will you provide some documentation to the church in Cali doing baptisms this way? I would like to know more.

I’ll pm you.

[coksiw]

"Democrat voters" are basically communists.

Everyone loves a witch hunt... as long as it's the other side's witches being hunted.

That's so true.

[james34]

FDA , CDC, WHO all oppose the use of Ivermectin, Mayo clinic declines interviews on the subject

but lets discuss incentives that hospitals receive to go along with the government murder scheme:

- $12000(New York), $156,000 in Tennessee hospitals, up to $471,000 in West Virginia for every hospitalized Covid patient
- other incentives and kick backs for using Remdesivir and other drugs more favored by the government. They say Ivermectim doesnt have enough studies to show strong conclusive results, so how many studies have been done for the top drugs being used to treat Covid?
First you should know that the Cares Act is the piece of legislation that has given way to the present murder scheme, as it granted power to the CMS(Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) to provide waivers to hospitals allowing them to disregaurd patients "Bill of Rights" , but CMS is also responsible for the huge payouts for hospitals that follow the death protocols.
Also the Prep Act is being used to make medical personnel immune from liability.
you dont need all of this protection if you expect a good outcome.
This thing is designed to kill people until they pay the political ransom ( relinquish your freedom) and in order to get your fellow man (doctors, nurses, and medical staff) to go along , it takes money and a lot of it. Therefore treatment that works or shows promise is frowned upon and brought to an abrupt halt, such as the monoclonal antibody infusions.
.....But back to the incentives...that seem to be turning every day medical personnel into hitmen for hire....

-Remdesivir-(also now authorised for out patient use...!!!BEWARE!!!) 20% add on bonus from CMS to the total hospital bill for the use of this drug , plus Phizer and Merck releasing new untested drugs ( but dont want ivermectin or hydroxychloroquin)

-$39,000 to hospitals for every Covid patient put on a ventilator
-Paxlovid- has 2 studies and cost 700$ per treatment
-Ivermectin- 73 studies and less than 1$ per treatment
-molnupiravir -6 studies/The original list price reported for a 5-day course of molnupiravir was about $700
-Remdesivir-27 studies(mostly bad) 3100$ per treatment

....Good podcast , click link below...

AJ DEPRIEST OF TN LIBERTY NETWORK DISCUSSES THE STRUGGLES OF FAMILIES TO GET LOVED ONES MEDICAL TREATMENT, COVID INCENTIVES FOR HOSPITALS, AND WORK ON ALTERNATIVES TO CMS MANDATES

https://afr.net/podcasts/sandy-rios-in-the-morning/2022/january/aj-depriest-of-tn-liberty-network-discusses-the-struggles-of-families-to-get-loved-ones-medical-treatment-covid-incentives-for-hospitals-and-work-on-alternatives-to-cms-mandates/

[Nicodemus1968]

That's terrible. Thankfully we have lots of conservatives in this country.

At the end God's will will be done:

Psa 33:10-11 NKJV - 10 The LORD brings the counsel of the nations to nothing; He makes the plans of the peoples of no effect. 11 The counsel of the LORD stands forever, The plans of His heart to all generations.

Conservative? That’s not the saving grace.

[Nicodemus1968]

FDA , CDC, WHO all oppose the use of Ivermectin, Mayo clinic declines interviews on the subject

but lets discuss incentives that hospitals receive to go along with the government murder scheme:

- $12000(New York), $156,000 in Tennessee hospitals, up to $471,000 in West Virginia for every hospitalized Covid patient
- other incentives and kick backs for using Remdesivir and other drugs more favored by the government. They say Ivermectim doesnt have enough studies to show strong conclusive results, so how many studies have been done for the top drugs being used to treat Covid?
First you should know that the Cares Act is the piece of legislation that has given way to the present murder scheme, as it granted power to the CMS(Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) to provide waivers to hospitals allowing them to disregaurd patients "Bill of Rights" , but CMS is also responsible for the huge payouts for hospitals that follow the death protocols.
Also the Prep Act is being used to make medical personnel immune from liability.
you dont need all of this protection if you expect a good outcome.
This thing is designed to kill people until they pay the political ransom ( relinquish your freedom) and in order to get your fellow man (doctors, nurses, and medical staff) to go along , it takes money and a lot of it. Therefore treatment that works or shows promise is frowned upon and brought to an abrupt halt, such as the monoclonal antibody infusions.
.....But back to the incentives...that seem to be turning every day medical personnel into hitmen for hire....

-Remdesivir-(also now authorised for out patient use...!!!BEWARE!!!) 20% add on bonus from CMS to the total hospital bill for the use of this drug , plus Phizer and Merck releasing new untested drugs ( but dont want ivermectin or hydroxychloroquin)

-$39,000 to hospitals for every Covid patient put on a ventilator
-Paxlovid- has 2 studies and cost 700$ per treatment
-Ivermectin- 73 studies and less than 1$ per treatment
-molnupiravir -6 studies/The original list price reported for a 5-day course of molnupiravir was about $700
-Remdesivir-27 studies(mostly bad) 3100$ per treatment

....Good podcast , click link below...

AJ DEPRIEST OF TN LIBERTY NETWORK DISCUSSES THE STRUGGLES OF FAMILIES TO GET LOVED ONES MEDICAL TREATMENT, COVID INCENTIVES FOR HOSPITALS, AND WORK ON ALTERNATIVES TO CMS MANDATES

https://afr.net/podcasts/sandy-rios-in-the-morning/2022/january/aj-depriest-of-tn-liberty-network-discusses-the-struggles-of-families-to-get-loved-ones-medical-treatment-covid-incentives-for-hospitals-and-work-on-alternatives-to-cms-mandates/

What should a believer be doing right now? With all this horrible info, where do we stand?

[coksiw]

Conservative? That’s not the saving grace.

You are right, but at least they have some leverage to keep some conservative representative in congress, and appoint conservative judges once in a while. It contains the evil at least a little bit, for now.
Is it sufficient? no. I'm just comparing to other countries where the progressive population is so overwhelmingly large that there is literally no restrain.

[Monterrey]

Folks, this is going to get worse before it gets better. The wonderful thing is that God is in control.

[Esaias]

You are right, but at least they have some leverage to keep some conservative representative in congress, and appoint conservative judges once in a while. It contains the evil at least a little bit, for now.
Is it sufficient? no. I'm just comparing to other countries where the progressive population is so overwhelmingly large that there is literally no restrain.

Conservatism is good at conserving gas as we drive off the cliff.

[Esaias]

What should a believer be doing right now? With all this horrible info, where do we stand?

Live by God's Word and you will be the alternative society you are looking for. The rest can burn like the chaff it is.

[Amanah]

Live by God's Word and you will be the alternative society you are looking for. The rest can burn like the chaff it is.

Psalm 119:165
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

[Esaias]

https://coronacircus.com/2022/02/11/season-of-sacrifice/

[n david]

While we were watching Canada, 4 GOP Senators (Romney, Graham, Inhofe, and Burr) skipped a vote that would have defunded Biden's mandates.

And then after watching that vote go down, 19 GOP Senators voted FOR funding mandates. Most don't surprise me, though I was surprised that Kennedy from LA voted to fund the vax or be fired mandates.

Barrasso (WY)
Blunt (MO)
Capito (WV)
Cassidy (LA)
Collins (ME)
Cornyn (TX)
Hagerty (TN)
Hyde-Smith (MS)
Kennedy (LA)
McConnell (KY)
Moran (KS)
Murkowski (AK)
Portman (OH)
Rounds (SD)
Rubio (FL)
Shelby (AL)
Tillis (NC)
Wicker (MS)
Young (IN)

And the GOP has been hoping to run on freedom from COVID tyranny in the midterms? Hard to do that when 1/3 of your own party, including the SML McConnell are voting to continue funding vax mandates.

[Esaias]

It's all an act, they are all puppets, bought and paid for, following the script.

[votivesoul]

There is always "literal tyranny in our time", in every one of us every day we wake up and look in the mirror and examine our hearts. Like Adam and Eve before us, we all want to be gods. Some of us, but not enough of us, have been graced with the great fortune of being granted repentance from such delusions. The rest, however, just keep plugging away.

[Evang.Benincasa]

While we were watching Canada, 4 GOP Senators (Romney, Graham, Inhofe, and Burr) skipped a vote that would have defunded Biden's mandates.

And then after watching that vote go down, 19 GOP Senators voted FOR funding mandates. Most don't surprise me, though I was surprised that Kennedy from LA voted to fund the vax or be fired mandates.

Barrasso (WY)
Blunt (MO)
Capito (WV)
Cassidy (LA)
Collins (ME)
Cornyn (TX)
Hagerty (TN)
Hyde-Smith (MS)
Kennedy (LA)
McConnell (KY)
Moran (KS)
Murkowski (AK)
Portman (OH)
Rounds (SD)
Rubio (FL)
Shelby (AL)
Tillis (NC)
Wicker (MS)
Young (IN)

And the GOP has been hoping to run on freedom from COVID tyranny in the midterms? Hard to do that when 1/3 of your own party, including the SML McConnell are voting to continue funding vax mandates.

I did not know this?

These people are messed up.

[Monterrey]

I believe that Trump has made a deal and this is why he won by such a large margin.

After the assassination attempt he decided to play ball. Trump 2.0 will be different than Trump 1.0

Trump 1 went in as a business man, 2.0 is now a politician. He made a deal with the deep state and is going to be yanked around as any other before him.

I say this because of the momentous shift that has happened in the last few weeks. The number of billionaires who have control of various media outlets have shifted over to working with him. I believe that this is indicative of an agreement.

Trump 2 is not the same as 1. Not saying that he won't get some things done but I still don't trust him anymore than the others.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I believe that Trump has made a deal and this is why he won by such a large margin.

After the assassination attempt he decided to play ball. Trump 2.0 will be different than Trump 1.0

Trump 1 went in as a business man, 2.0 is now a politician. He made a deal with the deep state and is going to be yanked around as any other before him.

I say this because of the momentous shift that has happened in the last few weeks. The number of billionaires who have control of various media outlets have shifted over to working with him. I believe that this is indicative of an agreement.

Trump 2 is not the same as 1. Not saying that he won't get some things done but I still don't trust him anymore than the others.

Will he be allowed to sworn in on January 21st?

[Monterrey]

I think so, he's playing along now.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I think so, he's playing along now.

:highfive

[Evang.Benincasa]

I’ll pm you.

Hey could you PM me that information?