Majority of Americans now believe you can't change being gay!!!

[SDG]

Gay man, former lesbian on whether they can change


By Taylor Gandossy
CNN


(CNN) -- After five years of trying to date girls and to conform and conceal his sexuality, 18-year-old Steven Field told his friends and family that he was gay.


http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/LIVING/personal/06/29/poll.reaction/art.steven.field.jpg

Steven Field, now 25, came out to his friends and family when he was 18.


"I wasn't being honest to myself," Field, now 25, said of his closeted high school years in the suburbs of Chicago, Illinois.

Being gay was natural for him, Field, who lives in Washington, said in a Thursday phone interview. "I didn't choose to be gay anymore than straight people choose to be straight."

Full article: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/06/29/poll.reaction/index.html

[Hoovie]

Field says you don't choose who you love....

I disagree. Love is not strictly an emotion. Ones intellect and choosing is very much a part of the decision.

[mfblume]

Love is not a feeling, it's an act of your will.

Otherwise we would not be told to lay up our treasures in heavenly places, for where our treasure is there will our hearts be also.

[Hoovie]

Love is not a feeling, it's an act of your will.

Otherwise we would not be told to lay up our treasures in heavenly places, for where our treasure is there will our hearts be also.



:thumbsup:thumbsup

[ReformedDave]

As with much of the English language we must define our terms.....What do we mean by the word "love"?

[Old Paths]

:vomit

[crakjak]

Shows the power of the leftist media to brainwash a foundationless society! History shows pervasive homosexuality to be the final stages of a culture. All established institutions eventually fail due to the self absorption.
When men and women so seek after their own lusts no matter what nature, tradition or the scriptures teach, that culture is not far from destruction.

[Praxeas]

they didn't poll me...you have to wonder if there would be different results if someone else was doing the polling.

Also, the liberal medial does not want people to believe gays can change, so they hide stories about those that have changed but hype stories of those that tried and later on fell. That does not show me gays can't change. It shows me humans will always be humans..if a former thief, after years of not thieving, backslides and steals something, do we say thieves were born that way and can't change?

[OP_Carl]

According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Wednesday, 56 percent of Americans believe that gays and lesbians could not change their sexual orientation even if they wanted to do so -- the first time that a majority has held that belief regarding homosexuality since CNN first posed the question nearly 10 years ago.

Here is the true power of television.

Next they'll convince us Santa Claus doesn't really exist!

And notice something subtle: They don't cite research data, they cite public opinion. It's a dangerous trend in our society that we are encouraging debate in important public matters to devolve into popularity contests and uninformed mob rule.

Even Chan provided some data in the course of a previous debate here on the topic: A figure of 4% of homosexuals who try to change to heterosexual succeed, but almost all of them are involved in homosexual conversion ministry.

[Brother Price]

This is a CNN poll. Problem is, who did they poll? They probably did not poll all throughout the nation a random sampling. They polled those who would probably be more biased to the gay agenda.

You can change being gay. If you claim you were born gay, then you need to get born again. But, no one is born gay. This is a bald faced lie used to influence people to accept this sinful and abominable lifestyle. CNN is nothing more than a puppet of the leftist political structure, and needs to be ignored.

[AGAPE]

the old song says

"what can wash away my sin??? nothing but the blood of Jesus"

[KwaiQ]

Gay man, former lesbian on whether they can change


By Taylor Gandossy
CNN


(CNN) -- After five years of trying to date girls and to conform and conceal his sexuality, 18-year-old Steven Field told his friends and family that he was gay.
....

this really does not surprise me. Part of the moral decay and decadence spiraling out of control in America which is no longer a Christian nation IMHO.

[Rico]

These poll results don't surprise me one bit.

[Chan]

Here is the true power of television.

Next they'll convince us Santa Claus doesn't really exist!

And notice something subtle: They don't cite research data, they cite public opinion. It's a dangerous trend in our society that we are encouraging debate in important public matters to devolve into popularity contests and uninformed mob rule.

Even Chan provided some data in the course of a previous debate here on the topic: A figure of 4% of homosexuals who try to change to heterosexual succeed, but almost all of them are involved in homosexual conversion ministry.But by a Christian who has this unnatural homosexual attraction (who is also seeking the healing of that attraction and is not embracing it and acting on it) goes home to be with the Lord, he or she will be healed of that attraction!

The important issue here isn't the underlying attraction* (which was caused during childhood; no one is born with sexual/romantic attraction and no one chooses to have such attraction), it's what one does with the attraction. Homosexuals who respond to the gospel call must then come to the place of agreeing with God that their homosexual attraction is contrary to God's created design for male and female and, thus, is something for the Lord to heal. They must then seek that healing (even if the Lord spends the rest of their lives here on Earth healing the unnatural attraction, it will be healed by the time they go home to be with the Lord). Now, that's an entirely separate issue from homosexual sin, which is everything that occurs after the point of attraction. Homosexual sin must be repented of and forsaken - it is something over which victory must be gained and maintained. In my church's ex-gay ministry, it is this gaining and maintaining victory that is our focus when dealing with people wanting to come out of homosexuality.

*attraction in this context is narrowly defined as the autonomic physiological/emotional response to sexual/romantic stimuli.

[Trouvere]

Basically what the man is saying in the article is that he gives up an gives in.I believe he is right because without the Holy Ghost its impossible,with the Holy Ghost however he can get the victory over his flesh.

[Chan]

Basically what the man is saying in the article is that he gives up an gives in.I believe he is right because without the Holy Ghost its impossible,with the Holy Ghost however he can get the victory over his flesh.He's not merely giving in, he's going on to actually embrace his homosexual attraction as part of his identity. He's gleefully siding with the enemy.

[CupCake]

It still comes down to loving the sinner! Let God handle it~

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Here is the true power of television.

Next they'll convince us Santa Claus doesn't really exist!

And notice something subtle: They don't cite research data, they cite public opinion. It's a dangerous trend in our society that we are encouraging debate in important public matters to devolve into popularity contests and uninformed mob rule.

Even Chan provided some data in the course of a previous debate here on the topic: A figure of 4% of homosexuals who try to change to heterosexual succeed, but almost all of them are involved in homosexual conversion ministry.

Are you suggesting Santa is not real?

[mfblume]

Just preached last night about how we can go beryond forgiveness for sins and mistakes, and ask God to create a new clean heart within us. That way the cause of the sins is dealt with so we cease doing them again. :) Most people only know forgiveness. David went beyond that! :D

[philjones]

Just preached last night about how we can go beryond forgiveness for sins and mistakes, and ask God to create a new clean heart within us. That way the cause of the sins is dealt with so we cease doing them again. :) Most people only know forgiveness. David went beyond that! :D

I call that beyond healing to wholeness!

Good message you preached. Very needful!

[Trouvere]

He's not merely giving in, he's going on to actually embrace his homosexual attraction as part of his identity. He's gleefully siding with the enemy.

Gleefully siding with the enemy? Did the article say he was apostolic? I missed that somehow.

[Chan]

Gleefully siding with the enemy? Did the article say he was apostolic? I missed that somehow.
He doesn't have to have been Apostolic to choose to side with the enemy.

[Trouvere]

He doesn't have to have been Apostolic to choose to side with the enemy.

Sorry but if he isn't saved he already belongs to the enemy unless your enemy is more than the devil.How could you expect sinners to think any differently than this man?

[Chan]

Sorry but if he isn't saved he already belongs to the enemy unless your enemy is more than the devil.How could you expect sinners to think any differently than this man?There are "sinners" who believe homosexual attraction is abnormal and that homosexuals can choose to change.

[Trouvere]

There are "sinners" who believe homosexual attraction is abnormal and that homosexuals can choose to change.

very few that I have ever met.Remember I live in the land of Gay Fest.

[Praxeas]

Sorry but if he isn't saved he already belongs to the enemy unless your enemy is more than the devil.How could you expect sinners to think any differently than this man?
So then how is that not siding with the enemy? :Nhl_crash