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Steve Epley
02-25-2007, 07:48 PM
Years ago I was pastoring in Ky. for a season over a month all I could preach was deliverance-healing-signs-miracles-faith-etc. our building filled we were sitting out folding chairs. I could not preach anything else it was all that God gave me. We were busting at the seams. Then one Sunday night the Lord gave me the message on "The Divine Prescription" from the story of Naaman boy things were high as a kite but when I got to "when he dipped according to the saying of the man of God he was made clean" and preached the plan we were able to seat everyone without a problem the next week. God allowed that to happen to me to let me know it was NOT myself or my ministry that hampered growth but the MESSAGE. My ministry and soul is not being put on the altar of popular opinion and money. I bought the truth and it is NOT for sale!:bliss :bliss

hammondb3klingon1
02-25-2007, 08:55 PM
I believe that there is a "Divine Prescription" where the Man of God teaches the word. The standards that come from the word are right and true. I have a problem when the Man of God starts dictation on everything the saints do. I have seen where the Pastor had to be asked permission to go out of town, which job to take, I don't mean asking to pray about it. I know personally of a case where the saint had a job making 6 figures, the pastor told him to quit, the saint quit, then asked the pastor why and the pastor said "No reason". This is not hearsay.

Having said that, When it comes to the preached word of the Lord, I do my best to obey. I have done things, even if I did not understand, just out of obedience and I believe I was blessed for that. SO, where is the line between the "Divine Prescription" and "Lording over the heritage of God". I ask this not in any way accusatory. I ask with a heavy heart due to a situation close to me.

Steve Epley
02-25-2007, 11:27 PM
I believe that there is a "Divine Prescription" where the Man of God teaches the word. The standards that come from the word are right and true. I have a problem when the Man of God starts dictation on everything the saints do. I have seen where the Pastor had to be asked permission to go out of town, which job to take, I don't mean asking to pray about it. I know personally of a case where the saint had a job making 6 figures, the pastor told him to quit, the saint quit, then asked the pastor why and the pastor said "No reason". This is not hearsay.

Having said that, When it comes to the preached word of the Lord, I do my best to obey. I have done things, even if I did not understand, just out of obedience and I believe I was blessed for that. SO, where is the line between the "Divine Prescription" and "Lording over the heritage of God". I ask this not in any way accusatory. I ask with a heavy heart due to a situation close to me.
The Divine Prescription I was preaching about was the new birth of water and the Spirit not asking permission to work.

Steve Epley
02-26-2007, 10:37 AM
The Name is the dividing line Jesus said "ye shall be hated of all nations for my NAME'S sake." Men today yet blaspheme that worthy name.

Rhoni
02-26-2007, 11:34 AM
The Name is the dividing line Jesus said "ye shall be hated of all nations for my NAME'S sake." Men today yet blaspheme that worthy name.

I agree...and always wonder that if it ever came down to sufferring persecution would we be able to stand. I have thought long and hard about the baptism thing...and I would have to say I would die standing for Jesus name baptism.

Blessings, Rhoni

Steve Epley
02-26-2007, 11:51 AM
I am reluctant to post this because it looks as if I am boasting or promoting self. But we can only speak from experience and mine is this. My father pastored a large Charismatic Baptist church that had thousands of members with a regular attendance of about 2,000 on Sunday with a large multi-media
outlet and I was his heir apparent. However my stand for truth cost me but I have never looked back.

Malvaro
02-26-2007, 12:06 PM
I am reluctant to post this because it looks as if I am boasting or promoting self. But we can only speak from experience and mine is this. My father pastored a large Charismatic Baptist church that had thousands of members with a regular attendance of about 2,000 on Sunday with a large multi-media
outlet and I was his heir apparent. However my stand for truth cost me but I have never looked back.

Elder E, your stand cost you very little in regards to this world, as you gained truth and life eternal.... if your father remained in false-doctrine, he is the one that paid a much, much higher cost.... eternity always helps us keep proper perspective....

God bless.... keep the truth....

Steve Epley
02-26-2007, 12:53 PM
Elder E, your stand cost you very little in regards to this world, as you gained truth and life eternal.... if your father remained in false-doctrine, he is the one that paid a much, much higher cost.... eternity always helps us keep proper perspective....

God bless.... keep the truth....

Temporal riches here or eternal riches later where neither thief nor moth and corrupt.

OneAccord
02-26-2007, 05:05 PM
Good testimony. I remember your dad. He use to come on the radio when I was frist converted in Miami. Use to listen to him , Don Stewart, R.G. Hardy, Bro. Schambach, Rev. Ike (now he was a character!). and many others. I was wondering, and hope you don't mind my asking, how did you, having grown up in the healing, salvation, prosperity era of big tents and big ministries, get into the Apostolic Movement? I know the Lord led you, but was wondering how you moved from that atmosphere into where the Lord has led you?

Garfield
02-26-2007, 05:13 PM
Good testimony. I remember your dad. He use to come on the radio when I was frist converted in Miami. Use to listen to him , Don Stewart, R.G. Hardy, Bro. Schambach, Rev. Ike (now he was a character!). and many others. I was wondering, and hope you don't mind my asking, how did you, having grown up in the healing, salvation, prosperity era of big tents and big ministries, get into the Apostolic Movement? I know the Lord led you, but was wondering how you moved from that atmosphere into where the Lord has led you?

I understand that SE didn't meet the height requirement and so he went with the Apostolics.

Steve Epley
02-26-2007, 05:15 PM
Good testimony. I remember your dad. He use to come on the radio when I was frist converted in Miami. Use to listen to him , Don Stewart, R.G. Hardy, Bro. Schambach, Rev. Ike (now he was a character!). and many others. I was wondering, and hope you don't mind my asking, how did you, having grown up in the healing, salvation, prosperity era of big tents and big ministries, get into the Apostolic Movement? I know the Lord led you, but was wondering how you moved from that atmosphere into where the Lord has led you?

My father and mother were divorced when I was small I have no memory of them living together, my mother was a devout Southern Baptist. My grandmother was Pentecostal(that no doubt had never heard of the PCI) but that was her mindset she was baptized in Jesus Name in 29. I was filled with the Holy Ghost at 11 years old in Febuary and baptized in Jesus Name in March. We did not have a Oneness church in our town but a church bus picked up folks like me it took a month of begging before mother would allow me to get on that church bus and go a whole 10 miles to church.

OneAccord
02-26-2007, 05:27 PM
Thank you, Bro. Epley. I was converted just after A. A. Allen died and, living in the Miami area, we went to all the crusades that came to town. Stewart, Schambach, Milton Perry and scores of others. I began attending Bro. Dunns church on 119th Street and he and Bro. Phillips baptized me in Jesus Name. I attended Schambachs meeting (much to Bro Dunns disapproval) and recieved the Holy Ghost. I listened to all the preachers back then on the radio and, because I was so young, really didn't understand the different teachings and doctrines, but they, including your dad, helped me a lot in my Christian walk. Later. I left Miami and returned to southern Indiana where I was raised. I attended Branham Tabernacle for a while and got pretty heavily involved in "the Message" for a time. But, through it all, I never strayed too far from the Apostolic Truth I heard at "the church on 119th St". Thank you for your testimony.

Steve Epley
02-26-2007, 05:41 PM
Thank you, Bro. Epley. I was converted just after A. A. Allen died and, living in the Miami area, we went to all the crusades that came to town. Stewart, Schambach, Milton Perry and scores of others. I began attending Bro. Dunns church on 119th Street and he and Bro. Phillips baptized me in Jesus Name. I attended Schambachs meeting (much to Bro Dunns disapproval) and recieved the Holy Ghost. I listened to all the preachers back then on the radio and, because I was so young, really didn't understand the different teachings and doctrines, but they, including your dad, helped me a lot in my Christian walk. Later. I left Miami and returned to southern Indiana where I was raised. I attended Branham Tabernacle for a while and got pretty heavily involved in "the Message" for a time. But, through it all, I never strayed too far from the Apostolic Truth I heard at "the church on 119th St". Thank you for your testimony.

The 119 the St. Church was truly a great church in it's day. Do you remember the Glossons he got involved with the Branham business and was out of that church also?

OneAccord
02-26-2007, 05:50 PM
That was so long ago... the only people I can remember was Bro. Dunn and two brothers by the name of Williams. I was just a kid then... I remember the women coming to church with their hair all up and, during church, their hair got "shouted down" I always thought they had shrunk during the service. Some of them seemed to be a foot or two shorter after church! LOL

Yeah, it was a great church... Bro. Dunn was a good man.