((MAJOR ALERT!!)) SECRET meetings being held by Ultra cons right now!!

[Thad]

Did you hear that the ultra cons are getting together and having a secret meeting to Discuss what they are going to do now ! ! ! ! !


I'm not kidding on this one - this is what a minister told me


he named a BIG NAME preacher from the west that's Heading it up right now

[pentecostisalive]

It was also posted on Wordshare, and has been heard from multiple sources. If it happens and if there are a couple of prominent ministers involved, then it could be very big news. It could provide a viable option to those moderate to slightly conservative who were against the resolution.

[redeemedcynic84]

I'm so glad that the UPC agrees on Important things...

I mean, imagine how big of a split there would be if we disagreed on something that matters when something so meaningless and stupid can cause such a huge rift...

[Thad]

It was also posted on Wordshare, and has been heard from multiple sources. If it happens and if there are a couple of prominent ministers involved, then it could be very big news. It could provide a viable option to those moderate to slightly conservative who were against the resolution.


This thread is joking aside. I know the from the source that this IS taking place ! ! ! ! !

thanks for verifying !

[AmazingGrace]

I will say like Carey said earlier and this is in no way meant in a mean spirit but good for them, because we dont need people in the org who are that disgruntled with it and if they dont want to be there their hearts will not be fully in it ever again.

[SDG]

It was also posted on Wordshare, and has been heard from multiple sources. If it happens and if there are a couple of prominent ministers involved, then it could be very big news. It could provide a viable option to those moderate to slightly conservative who were against the resolution.

Sad to see an org whose birth is over TV ... what will there about page on their website read ... we are against TV and so we decide to start an org?

[Esther]

Did you hear that the ultra cons are getting together and having a secret meeting to Discuss what they are going to do now ! ! ! ! !


I'm not kidding on this one - this is what a minister told me


he named a BIG NAME preacher from the west that's Heading it up right now

Must not be too secret?? :)

[Barb]

This thread is joking aside. I know the from the source that this IS taking place ! ! ! ! !

thanks for verifying !

From a West Coast observer, would you think that Bishop W would be in that mix, Thad?!

[AmazingGrace]

Must not be too secret?? :)

Pretty much still... not everyone on this forum has access to wordshare! :)

[Thad]

From a West Coast observer, would you think that Bishop W would be in that mix, Thad?!


I was told he is not there Barb and i just got that confirmed


remember , sis W's dad just passed and i think that has something to do with it

[bdlooney]

This is so distressing to me! It saddens my heart to know that we are possibly loosing good, solid brethren over this dumb box. Does anyone care?

[DividedThigh]

how sad and lame, but hey i am not in, so bye, dt:hypercoffee

[redeemedcynic84]

This is so distressing to me! It saddens my heart to know that we are possibly loosing good, solid brethren over this dumb box. Does anyone care?

The people staying probably care a lot more than the people leaving...

[StillStanding]

This is so distressing to me! It saddens my heart to know that we are possibly loosing good, solid brethren over this dumb box. Does anyone care?
I agree, folks leaving over a dumb box is....well....dumb! :)

[Esther]

This is so distressing to me! It saddens my heart to know that we are possibly loosing good, solid brethren over this dumb box. Does anyone care?

The saddest thing is the heart of the matter for division. Some of it is stubborn pride, IMO.

[DividedThigh]

The saddest thing is the heart of the matter for division. Some of it is stubborn pride, IMO.

no doubt true and right on target, makes me sad, dt:hypercoffee

[Thad]

well seriously, some believe it's going to open the pandora box for more and more. just saying what they feel is all

[StillStanding]

well seriously, some believe it's going to open the pandora box for more and more. just saying what they feel is all

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! :bliss

[dizzyde]

Did you hear that the ultra cons are getting together and having a secret meeting to Discuss what they are going to do now ! ! ! ! !


I'm not kidding on this one - this is what a minister told me


he named a BIG NAME preacher from the west that's Heading it up right now

Can we get initials?

[redeemedcynic84]

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! :bliss

maybe the sky should fall...

[Esther]

well seriously, some believe it's going to open the pandora box for more and more. just saying what they feel is all

This is true Thad. Not doubting that for a moment. And I wouldn't doubt that happens either.

But lets be honest, we have pastors in the pulpit that have made the headlines as well, in a not to positive light.

I just truly believe we are in the last days and should use every tool we can to reach as many people as possible.

JMO

[SDG]

I speculate JG is involved.

[Barb]

I was told he is not there Barb and i just got that confirmed


remember , sis W's dad just passed and i think that has something to do with it

Yes I know, but Sis. Mc and Sis. Haney are there, so I wondered...

[Dedicated Mind]

LET EM GO!! How can they evangelize the world with door-to-door knocking in gated communities, big city high rises, overpopulation and remote villages in foriegn countries?? They belong to the dino age.

[Margies3]

I have not been keeping up to date on all of this, but have a question to interject. Sorry for the :hijacked

I'm curious tho - does anyone know where Mark Jordan stands on the TV issue?

[Thad]

I speculate JG is involved.


JG ?? who ??

[Esther]

JG ?? who ??

I'm thinking of gold :)

[LaVonne]

The saddest thing is the heart of the matter for division. Some of it is stubborn pride, IMO.

I agree with you Esther. I don't know many who are happy to be losing good bretheren. However, many have been quite vocal about how they are going to walk out if res. 4...some have been threatening it since last year. Why stay if you cannnot agree?

[Thad]

I have not been keeping up to date on all of this, but have a question to interject. Sorry for the :hijacked

I'm curious tho - does anyone know where Mark Jordan stands on the TV issue?

he wrote a letter FOR R-4 last year

[bishoph]

I have not been keeping up to date on all of this, but have a question to interject. Sorry for the :hijacked

I'm curious tho - does anyone know where Mark Jordan stands on the TV issue?

He is 100% for it. In fact he was on the pro side of the committee.

[Thad]

LET EM GO!! How can they evangelize the world with door-to-door knocking in gated communities, big city high rises, overpopulation and remote villages in foriegn countries?? They belong to the dino age.



that didn't have a very kind tone

[J-Roc]

I speculate JG is involved.


JG?? Johnny Godair?

[Esther]

JG?? Johnny Godair?

My guess.

[James Griffin]

This is so distressing to me! It saddens my heart to know that we are possibly loosing good, solid brethren over this dumb box. Does anyone care?

With all due respect I believe "this dumb box" was not the true issue, it was to what degree will that org be willing to evolve, or I guess devolve depending on your viewpoint. The TV issue was merely the lightening rod

[dizzyde]

JG?? Johnny Godair?

But he's not West Coast, who is the "Big Name West Coast" preacher?

[James Griffin]

I speculate JG is involved.

what am I being accused of now??? :killinme:killinme

[Margies3]

he wrote a letter FOR R-4 last year

He is 100% for it. In fact he was on the pro side of the committee.

Thanks you. I'm not surprised, but just wanted to know that I was correct in my thinking.

[dizzyde]

what am I being accused of now??? :killinme:killinme


Funny!!!!! :lol

[J-Roc]

JG?? Johnny Godair?

JG ?? who ??

My guess.


Perhaps he meant, James Griffin? :killinme :driving

[J-Roc]

I see James himself beat me to it... lol

[UltraCon]

Well, I can't wait to get back to church on Sunday. I wasn't very shocked at the results today even though I had hope for the RES to fail. As for the future of the UPC or any other org being formed I just don't know. JG is my pastor's pastor and I know my pastor is with LB right now but I can't say what they are discussing. I will say this though: after reading through the post on this forum along with the post on the Goodbye Kansas Preacher forum I truely don't want to be in an org with people like the ones making those comments. Personally, I wish the UPC well. Today was just as much of a relief as it was anything else. The UPC has shown the way that they want to go and they have the right to follow that path. They will follow without me and without others. As the to the "dino age" comment made by an obviously unintelligent individual I say that you must think that the churches that Bro Wilson, Bro Booker, Bro Johnny King, Bro Tim Copeland, Bro Jerry Green, and Bro Godair pastor are irrelavent since they follow the teaching of the "dino age". It's okay to dissagree but to say that the anti TV crowd is in the "dino age" is crazy. Oh well, this is just my two cents... On Sunday it's back to business as usual, having church, praying people through, and preaching holiness. I hope that everone has a good trip home from GC.

[MissBrattified]

Well, I can't wait to get back to church on Sunday. I wasn't very shocked at the results today even though I had hope for the RES to fail. As for the future of the UPC or any other org being formed I just don't know. JG is my pastor's pastor and I know my pastor is with LB right now but I can't say what they are discussing. I will say this though: after reading through the post on this forum along with the post on the Goodbye Kansas Preacher forum I truely don't want to be in an org with people like the ones making those comments. Personally, I wish the UPC well. Today was just as much of a relief as it was anything else. The UPC has shown the way that they want to go and they have the right to follow that path. They will follow without me and without others. As the to the "dino age" comment made by an obviously unintelligent individual I say that you must think that the churches that Bro Wilson, Bro Booker, Bro Johnny King, Bro Tim Copeland, Bro Jerry Green, and Bro Godair pastor are irrelavent since they follow the teaching of the "dino age". It's okay to dissagree but to say that the anti TV crowd is in the "dino age" is crazy. Oh well, this is just my two cents... On Sunday it's back to business as usual, having church, praying people through, and preaching holiness. I hope that everone has a good trip home from GC.

1. Not everyone feels the same.

2. Give your own pastor room to change his mind, if he wants to. Some may be surprised that it passed, and may reconsider, especially considering res #3.

[MissBrattified]

Thad, obviously the meetings aren't all that secret....LOL!!! Private, maybe.

[HangingOut]

Do you think the format of a new conservative org would be much different than global?
It would take years to get anywhere near another format like the UPC. Ex. a GS who would give up a church, an HQ.

[Thad]

Well, I can't wait to get back to church on Sunday. I wasn't very shocked at the results today even though I had hope for the RES to fail. As for the future of the UPC or any other org being formed I just don't know. JG is my pastor's pastor and I know my pastor is with LB right now but I can't say what they are discussing. I will say this though: after reading through the post on this forum along with the post on the Goodbye Kansas Preacher forum I truely don't want to be in an org with people like the ones making those comments. Personally, I wish the UPC well. Today was just as much of a relief as it was anything else. The UPC has shown the way that they want to go and they have the right to follow that path. They will follow without me and without others. As the to the "dino age" comment made by an obviously unintelligent individual I say that you must think that the churches that Bro Wilson, Bro Booker, Bro Johnny King, Bro Tim Copeland, Bro Jerry Green, and Bro Godair pastor are irrelavent since they follow the teaching of the "dino age". It's okay to dissagree but to say that the anti TV crowd is in the "dino age" is crazy. Oh well, this is just my two cents... On Sunday it's back to business as usual, having church, praying people through, and preaching holiness. I hope that everone has a good trip home from GC.

I started that thread but please read my apology - i think it will explain that thread better

[rgcraig]

This is so distressing to me! It saddens my heart to know that we are possibly loosing good, solid brethren over this dumb box. Does anyone care?

Hey, it's not the box that's causing them to do this.