Biggest Draw: Dora or Res. #4?

[Hoovie]

So, after all the critical analysis of Youth Congress, and the coup d'etat via Tampa, who had the larger crowds?

I have been told the GC numbers did not match the crowds of 17,000 at YC.

If a controversial General Conference cannot pull more numbers than a burgeoning youth gathering, what does it say of the UPC organization?

I note that most criticism of Youth Congress was simply brushed aside - with no real evidence of future events being less cutting edge.

The big draw on the GC biz session ended in a coup by the estimation of many - conservatives and liberals alike, with traditionalist conservatives taking second place.

I agree with S Epley and others when they say there is no turning back this tide.

The question is, Do we have more to gain in this than we have to lose???

[Hoovie]

Does anyone have numbers for the General Conference attendance?

[SDG]

GC is a waste of HQ's money IMO ... they should have the business meetings every year ... and invite the public/laity every 2 years ....

I know that would put a dent in their fund raising ... but if they learned to use the technology at their disposal they could find inventive ways to raise funds.... while still hitting ministers at the door.

[ChicagoPastor]

So, after all the critical analysis of Youth Congress, and the coup d'etat via Tampa, who had the larger crowds?

I have been told the GC numbers did not match the crowds of 17,000 at YC.

If a controversial General Conference cannot pull more numbers than a burgeoning youth gathering, what does it say of the UPC organization?

I note that most criticism of Youth Congress was simply brushed aside - with no real evidence of future events being less cutting edge.

The big draw on the GC biz session ended in a coup by the estimation of many - conservatives and liberals alike, with traditionalist conservatives taking second place.

I agree with S Epley and others when they say there is no turning back this tide.

The question is, Do we have more to gain in this than we have to lose???

We have more to gain. We are setting our sites on witnessing to Hannah Montana and SpongBob....we are not satisfied with just Dorah. :killinme

[pelathais]

So, after all the critical analysis of Youth Congress, and the coup d'etat via Tampa, who had the larger crowds?

I have been told the GC numbers did not match the crowds of 17,000 at YC.

If a controversial General Conference cannot pull more numbers than a burgeoning youth gathering, what does it say of the UPC organization?

I note that most criticism of Youth Congress was simply brushed aside - with no real evidence of future events being less cutting edge.

The big draw on the GC biz session ended in a coup by the estimation of many - conservatives and liberals alike, with traditionalist conservatives taking second place.

I agree with S Epley and others when they say there is no turning back this tide.

The question is, Do we have more to gain in this than we have to lose???
I think you hit the nail on the head there, Hoov. I was sort of feeling depressed because of the drag of the UC's on the movement, but now I think the movement is still on the move.

People are really tired of the shameful way the political game is played (the 1992 AS, the "life long heritage lost" when a 30 year ban is lifted...).

So instead of showing up for the train wreck, people are are jumping on the trains that are moving.

And I disagree about the "coup." I was surprised that #4 passed, but as I said before, I am pessimistic by nature. I think light is breaking through the clouds.

[lisafitzh2o]

GC is a waste of HQ's money IMO ... they should have the business meetings every year ... and invite the public/laity every 2 years ....

I know that would put a dent in their fund raising ... but if they learned to use the technology at their disposal they could find inventive ways to raise funds.... while still hitting ministers at the door.

They could advertise on TV!!!!!!!! :heeheehee sorry

[vrblackwell]

Does anyone have numbers for the General Conference attendance?

We had a little of 10,000 that registered.

[pelathais]

We had a little of 10,000 that registered.
whoa! 70% more in attendance at NAYC?

[Newman]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)

[Hoovie]

We have more to gain. We are setting our sites on witnessing to Hannah Montana and SpongBob....we are not satisfied with just Dorah. :killinme

sights, SpongeBob, Dora

Ideed we umst go froward.

[SoCaliUPC]

Stephen....ran into your wife at GC and had a nice chat with her. Hope she relayed my greetings!

[Hoovie]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)

This is all true, but General Conference is the only official national religious holiday of the UPCI.

I see meetings like NAYC taking on more of a defining role in the UPC rather than only the traditional social emphasis.

[Hoovie]

Stephen....ran into your wife at GC and had a nice chat with her. Hope she relayed my greetings!

Yes indeed! Also, she met Pastor Poster and Raven.

[pelathais]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)
LOL! There may be a lot of truth there! But I know couples who met at GC.

And the music at GC does tend to be selected for the "older" crowd. My wife has been asked to sing at GC several times- but never at NAYC! hmm... :)

[Steve Epley]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)

You are so smart you should be an attorney. Did the mormon polygamy verdict surprize you?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)


Imagine if they went back to Louisville and had a central location....

Oh nevermind.

GC is always lower the year they have NAYC. The marathon offerings and $25 door charge could have skeered a few away from registrations too.

[redeemedcynic84]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I knew I should have gone to NAYC!!!! me and my stupid... uh... stupidness??

:kicksrock:

[Ferd]

Also NYC is every 2 years while GC is every year. and If I am not mistaken NYC has been larger for a pretty long time.

[Brett Prince]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)
Now, THAT, is a post that is spot on!

[ILG]

Comparing apples to oranges here. On one hand we have married people (mostly ministers) choosing to go to a political conference over a fishing trip or sightseeing family vacation. :saycheese

On the other hand we have young people wanting to meet other single Pentecostal young people so they can find that special someone. Which means that they too will one day decide between General conference and a vacation rental in the mountains or some other vacation.

And without a stake or influence in the political ball game they are most likely to choose the fun vacation. ;)

I really do wish we would have spent more of our precious dollars and spare time doing things with the kids rather than going to these functions. Fortunately, we have been doing just that for about the past 5-7 years.