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StillStanding
10-01-2007, 07:18 AM
Please rate from 1 thru 7 (in order of priority) how important each of the following are in determining which churches you fellowship. SAYING THAT ALL IS EQUAL IS NOT ALLOWED!!!
Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
Church organization affiliation
Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan or PCI salvation plan
Lively Worship
Holiness Standards (Many or few))
TVs in saints homes
Church uses TV for outreach
For example, this is mine (Liberal):
1. Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
2. Few holiness standards
3. Lively Worship
4. Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan or PCI salvation plan
5. Church organization affiliation
6. Church uses TV for outreach
7. TVs in saints homes
Coonskinner
10-01-2007, 07:21 AM
A man's doctrine, character, and ethics.
I fellowship on different levels.
I preach for men who are quite a bit more liberal than I am, and I have some of them preach for me because they are respectful of my pulpit.
One God, Acts 2:38, basic Apostolic Holiness standards are all non-negotiable.
StillStanding
10-01-2007, 07:25 AM
A man's doctrine, character, and ethics.
I fellowship on different levels.
I preach for men who are quite a bit more liberal than I am, and I have some of them preach for me because they are respectful of my pulpit.
One God, Acts 2:38, basic Apostolic Holiness standards are all non-negotiable.
You didn't answer the question!
I am asking how you determine fellowship BEFORE character or ethics are allowed to enter the equation! :) We all know of folks with high character and ethics that we would never fellowship because one of the seven reason listed!
I understand that this exercise is very tough for UCs, as some consider all as equal importance. But.. in reality, priorities are made! :)
chseeads
10-01-2007, 07:30 AM
1. Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
2. Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan
3. Holiness Standards (Many or few)
4. Lively Worship
5. TVs in saints homes
6. Church uses TV for outreach
7. Church organization affiliation
5-7 are totally irrelevant to me.
You didn't answer the question!
I am asking how you determine fellowship BEFORE character or ethics are allowed to enter the equation! :) We all know of folks with high character and ethics that we would never fellowship because one of the seven reason listed!
I think we go by a certain "look". hair up in a twist, dresses, no ornamental jewelry & makeup.
if that's the specifics you are looking for, i think that's it in a nut shell. traditional pentecost goes by appearance but then again you do too PM . maybe in another way but you do .
StillStanding
10-01-2007, 07:35 AM
1. Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
2. Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan
3. Holiness Standards (Many or few)
4. Lively Worship
5. TVs in saints homes
6. Church uses TV for outreach
7. Church organization affiliation
5-7 are totally irrelevant to me.
:thumbsup
philjones
10-01-2007, 07:36 AM
1. Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
2. Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan
3. Holiness Standards (Many or few)
4. Lively Worship
5. TVs in saints homes
6. Church uses TV for outreach
7. Church organization affiliation
5-7 are totally irrelevant to me.
Wow... great minds think alike. This would be my determination as well... almost.
After further review, being from the South, I would probably reverse 3 and 4. #3 is a little difficult to place.
Chseeads,
I didn't know you were an UC :killinme:killinme:killinme
StillStanding
10-01-2007, 07:38 AM
I think we go by a certain "look". hair up in a twist, dresses, no ornamental jewelry & makeup.
if that's the specifics you are looking for, i think that's it in a nut shell. traditional pentecost goes by appearance but then again you do too PM . maybe in another way but you do .
That nutshell is covered in "Holiness Standards (Many or few)"
I expect this to be high on conservative's and some liberal's lists!
Please rate the seven!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Falla39
10-01-2007, 07:54 AM
I think we go by a certain "look". hair up in a twist, dresses, no ornamental jewelry & makeup.
if that's the specifics you are looking for, i think that's it in a nut shell. traditional pentecost goes by appearance but then again you do too PM . maybe in another way but you do .
This reminds me of a story a well-known missionary, told about a
denominal lady telling a apostolic lady that all their ladies looked alike.
To which the apostolic lady replied, "Well, you all do too".
God said that man looketh on the outward appearance but God
looks on the heart. He wasn't talking to ladies when He said it either.
Looks can indeed be very deceiving but God knows and sees where
no man can. If you want to know where a person is coming from, just
listen, or read. From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Sometimes our fingers "do the talking".
This is not directed to anyone! It's just a fact!
Blessings,
Falla39
DividedThigh
10-01-2007, 08:08 AM
one thru four are ok, the last 3 are not important, holiness standards are useless to anyone who doesnt have him in there heart and follow it, a lot of food keeps me coming back,lol,dt:hypercoffee
StillStanding
10-01-2007, 09:35 AM
I think we go by a certain "look". hair up in a twist, dresses, no ornamental jewelry & makeup.
if that's the specifics you are looking for, i think that's it in a nut shell. traditional pentecost goes by appearance but then again you do too PM . maybe in another way but you do .
This is my GUESS on how UCs prioritize fellowship:
1. Holiness Standards
If you don't have the "look" of American holiness, there's no need to even examine the rest!
2. Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan
If you don't line up at this level, no need to go any farther!
3. Church uses TV for outreach
If you pass the first two tests, but use TV for outreach, no need to go farther!
4. TVs in saints homes
Some UCs will fellowship churches where some saints may have TVs, but some draw the line here!
5. Lively Worship
Even if you pass all of the above, some will not fellowship if your services are not lively.
6. Church organization affiliation
Some UCs will not fellowship you because you are guilty by association!
7. Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
If you don't make it this far, you might as well be Buddist or Muslim!
How did I do?????? :)
This is my GUESS on how UCs prioritize fellowship:
1. Holiness Standards
If you don't have the "look" of American holiness, there's no need to even examine the rest!
2. Strong Acts 2:38 3 step salvation plan
If you don't line up at this level, no need to go any farther!
3. Church uses TV for outreach
If you pass the first two tests, but use TV for outreach, no need to go farther!
4. TVs in saints homes
Some UCs will fellowship churches where some saints may have TVs, but some draw the line here!
5. Lively Worship
Even if you pass all of the above, some will not fellowship if your services are not lively.
6. Church organization affiliation
Some UCs will not fellowship you because you are guilty by association!
7. Apostolic (Pentecostal) in Doctrine
If you don't make it this far, you might as well be Buddist or Muslim!
How did I do?????? :)
you pretty well summed it up
I agree with NO. 4 - however, this is more the case with a Con not an ultra con.
seriously, many UCs give people 2 weeks to get rid of their TVs. if you don't, you're a gonner.
StillStanding
10-01-2007, 09:51 AM
you pretty well summed it up
I agree with NO. 4 - however, this is more the case with a Con not an ultra con.
seriously, many UCs give people 2 weeks to get rid of their TVs. if you don't, you're a gonner.
I believe you!
As far as standards, for myself it doesn't matter how strict the members look as long as they don't require the same from me or my family! :)
Nahum
10-01-2007, 10:12 AM
Easy, I only fellowship those who are willing to pick up the check.:saycheese
delta soundman
10-01-2007, 10:26 AM
There are really only 6 people who I could careless about fellowshiping with. If you are NOT one of those 6, let's fellowship. Any color, religion, nationality, we are all God's children.
copyman59
10-01-2007, 10:54 AM
There are really only 6 people who I could careless about fellowshiping with. If you are NOT one of those 6, let's fellowship. Any color, religion, nationality, we are all God's children.
I hope that I am not one of those 6 delta soundman! It would pain me to know I didn't make the list! It's bad enough that the UPC has to pass a resolution to blacklist people. As far as I'm concerned, they've been doing it for years!
Sister Alvear
10-01-2007, 12:24 PM
Hope I am not one of those six either...
How do I determine who I fellowship?
The first sign I look for in a person is the LOVE of GOD...for by this shall all men know ye are HIS disciples...
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