Looks like UPCI is finally taking a good turn. TV, no-standards, ect..

[COOPER]

PRAISE JESUS UPCI IS CHANGING!!!!


I love that UPCI is changing!





Many good folks will be going back if the cruel cons are gone.:hypercoffee

[stmatthew]

Many good folks will be going back if the cruel cons are gone.:hypercoffee

The Standards have not been done away with..............yet.

[RevDWW]

Many good folks will be going back if the cruel cons are gone.:hypercoffee

Where'd you come up with UPCI and "no standards" ????:poetic

[COOPER]

The Standards have not been done away with..............yet.

.............yet........:driving

[RevDWW]

.............yet........:driving

Where there are no standards chaos if king. Why I would imagine you actually have some standards in your life...........:sshhh

[chosenbyone]

I think this is just sad! Most people would label me a liberal, but my personal standards won't be compromised by the passing of Res. # 4. What God has placed in my life won't fade away with time either!

[COOPER]

Where'd you come up with UPCI and "no standards" ????:poetic

With all of the TV hating control people out of the org; standards will be next.

Thats why they are leaving anyway. They see it coming.

They realize saint's are not dumb sheep any more.

[COOPER]

I think this is just sad! Most people would label me a liberal, but my personal standards won't be compromised by the passing of Res. # 4. What God has placed in my life won't fade away with time either!
Wiil you leave and follow those that leave too?

What if one day your pastords wife wears pants to wal-mart?

[stmatthew]

With all of the TV hating control people out of the org; standards will be next.

Thats why they are leaving anyway. They see it coming.

They realize saint's are not dumb sheep any more.


sounds to me like you still have not gotten over that bitterness.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

With all of the TV hating control people out of the org; standards will be next.

Thats why they are leaving anyway. They see it coming.

They realize saint's are not dumb sheep any more.

Coop, is TV the only issue keeping you out?
Then you are a dumb sheep.

What is in your heart to still allow such hatred after all this time?
- hatred breeds bitterness and then evil has full reign.

I thought you were past your UPC bashing phase.

[COOPER]

Where there are no standards chaos if king. Why I would imagine you actually have some standards in your life...........:sshhh

Yes of coarse, I keep my shirt on and my kids are clean and modestly dressed.

[COOPER]

sounds to me like you still have not gotten over that bitterness.

I was never bitter.
I was never hurt by UPC....in fact I loved it very much and I loved the standards.
Then one day, BAM! ..............God showed me something was not right.

[chosenbyone]

Wiil you leave and follow those that leave too?

What if one day your pastords wife wears pants to wal-mart?

Oh, boy! Another pot stirrer! Just what we needed today. Brother, I have no intentions of leaving where God has placed me. If I were to leave, it would be by his guidance and not what others would be wearing or doing!

By the way, I don't judge anyone in regards to standards, because I feel it is the leading of God's Spirit that should dictate where the lines should be drawn for each individuals' spiritual health.

[Dedicated Mind]

what was your "revelation"? what standards don't you agree with?

[COOPER]

Coop, is TV the only issue keeping you out?
Then you are a dumb sheep.

What is in your heart to still allow such hatred after all this time?
- hatred breeds bitterness and then evil has full reign.

I thought you were past your UPC bashing phase.
No, I am waiting for the day that UPCI get their heads screwed on right so the church can move on past the junk....then I might come back to my home.


I am not bashing UPCI, I am praising and exited about the con's leaving.

If they leave then God can have his way. This is Hope.

I love it!:driving

[COOPER]

Oh, boy! Another pot stirrer! Just what we needed today. Brother, I have no intentions of leaving where God has placed me. If I were to leave, it would be by his guidance and not what others would be wearing or doing!

By the way, I don't judge anyone in regards to standards, because I feel it is the leading of God's Spirit that should dictate where the lines should be drawn for each individuals' spiritual health.

I love you.

[COOPER]

what was your "revelation"? what standards don't you agree with?

Well, most of the stuff is man made.


God showed me a woman will not go to hell over a hair cut or pants or make up. Hello?:telephone

[The Dean]

Yipee! Another anti-UPC thread that serves no real purpose other than to be an anti-UPC thread. :drama

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Well, most of the stuff is man made.


God showed me a woman will not go to hell over a hair cut or pants or make up. Hello?:telephone

Yipee! Another anti-UPC thread that serves no real purpose other than to be an anti-UPC thread. :drama

For the new ones here who did not remember 101 ways Coop is angry at the UPC it will provide distraction.

The rest of us still hope our friend can come to peace with himself someday.

:hypercoffee

[chosenbyone]

For the new ones here who did not remember 101 ways Coop is angry at the UPC it will provide distraction.

The rest of us still hope our friend can come to peace with himself someday.

:hypercoffee


AMEN

[COOPER]

I love and support change in the UPC!



Yipee! Another anti-UPC thread that serves no real purpose other than to be an anti-UPC thread. :drama

This a pro- UPCI thread in hope for good change!
:congrats:bdayparty:amen:shockamoo

[chaotic_resolve]

Dumb thread . . .

[mfblume]

Where there are no standards chaos if king. Why I would imagine you actually have some standards in your life...........:sshhh

Following a written rule is a far cry from allowing the Spirit to change your nature so as to disallow you from doing something. Nothing wrong with concern over appearances. The Bible teaches modesty. But to have written rules is the problem. It disables people and does not encourage seeking God to change one's heart. Following a written rule in order to live right is a counterfeit of the Spirit's work, and is actually useless. If it's still in the heart.... that is how God judges us.

God wants us to live right, but it cannot be born of flesh by way, for example, of following written rules, or "standards". It must be a work of the Spirit.

[COOPER]

Dumb thread . . .

:chat

[COOPER]

Following a written rule is a far cry from allowing the Spirit to change your nature so as to disallow you from doing something. Nothing wrong with concern over appearances. The Bible teaches modesty. But to have written rules is the problem. It disables people and does not encourage seeking God to change one's heart. Following a written rule in order to live right is a counterfeit of the Spirit's work, and is actually useless. If it's still in the heart.... that is how God judges us.

God wants us to live right, but it cannot be born of flesh by way, for example, of following written rules, or "standards". It must be a work of the Spirit.

:driving post

[Praxeas]

PRAISE JESUS UPCI IS CHANGING!!!!


I love that UPCI is changing!





Many good folks will be going back if the cruel cons are gone.:hypercoffee
First of all I need to say it is changing, but not necessarily to get rid of all the standards you don't like.

Second, can we can the hate rhetoric already? It gets old

[stmatthew]

Following a written rule is a far cry from allowing the Spirit to change your nature so as to disallow you from doing something. Nothing wrong with concern over appearances. The Bible teaches modesty. But to have written rules is the problem. It disables people and does not encourage seeking God to change one's heart. Following a written rule in order to live right is a counterfeit of the Spirit's work, and is actually useless. If it's still in the heart.... that is how God judges us.

God wants us to live right, but it cannot be born of flesh by way, for example, of following written rules, or "standards". It must be a work of the Spirit.

Please make sure to throw your bible away.











:D

[stmatthew]

PRAISE JESUS UPCI IS CHANGING!!!!


I love that UPCI is changing!





Many good folks will be going back if the cruel cons are gone.:hypercoffee

sounds to me like you still have not gotten over that bitterness.


I rest my case.

[mfblume]

Please make sure to throw your bible away.


:D

Do you really consider the New Testament to be set of written rules like the Law? Bro, that is the whole issue in Romans 7.

The issue is righteousness.

The bible contains LAW and New Testament. The entire concept of the New testament is that LAW's means of righteousness does not work. Law is THOU SHALT NOT. If we believe the New Testament is a set of rules as the Law is, then we have missed something huge. The entire concept of walking after the Spirit is seeing the Spirit change our hearts by writing law in them. This causes our natures to change so as to not dare think to do certain things.

As I said, when we obey rules that are written on paper then it is flesh accomplishing something. When the New Testament says anything about our lifestyle, and lifestyle is the issue, it is saying this is what occurs when you are properly being led of the Spirit. We are not to mimmick the work of the Spirit by blindly obeying any written rules. We must never turn the New Testament into another Old Testament set of rules.

At this point, everyone asks, "Does this mean we can sin?"... as though obeying written rules is the only way to speak against sin. That is the same question Paul was always challenged with when he was misunderstood in his teachings of grace. God forbid.

[stmatthew]

Do you really consider the New Testament to be set of written rules like the Law?

The issue is righteousness.

The bible contains LAW and New Testament. The entire concept of the New testament is that LAW's means of righteousness does not work. Law is THOU SHALT NOT. If we believe the New Testament is a set of rules as the Law is, then we have missed something huge. The entire concept of walking after the Spirit is seeing the Spirit change our hearts by writing law in them. This causes our natures to change so as to not dare think to do certain things.

As I said, when we obey rules that are written on paper then it is flesh accomplishing something. When the New Testament says anything about our lifestyle, anhd loifestyle is the issue, it is saying this is what occurs when you are properly being led of the Spirit. We are not to mimick the work of the Spirit by blindly obeying any written rules. We must never turn the New Testament into another Old Testament set of rules.

Does this mean we sin? That is the same question Paul was always challenged with when he was misunderstood in his teachings of grace. God forbid.

HAHAHA!!!! I knew I would get you going a little. I do understand your post, Bro, and agree that all the written law in the heavens and earth will matter little to a man if they are not written upon the tables of his heart.

[mfblume]

HAHAHA!!!! I knew I would get you going a little. I do understand your post, Bro, and agree that all the written law in the heavens and earth will matter little to a man if they are not written upon the tables of his heart.

(sigh of relief) ;)

["GL"]

:drama

[COOPER]

:drama
Life is a highway!:driving

[COOPER]

I rest my case.
:sshhhMe too

[BrotherEastman]

I love the UPC, I doubt that they will get rid of standards.

[RevDWW]

Life is a highway!:driving

Which road we travel makes a world of difference as to our final destination!

[philjones]

With all of the TV hating control people out of the org; standards will be next.

Thats why they are leaving anyway. They see it coming.

They realize saint's are not dumb sheep any more.

if you are the evidence this statement is true.. I am not worried about the UPCI!:killinme:killinme

[philjones]

I was never bitter.
I was never hurt by UPC....in fact I loved it very much and I loved the standards.
Then one day, BAM! ..............God showed me something was not right.

WOW, Coop, you are the big cheese with God!

Out of all the UPCI people, he chose to show YOU that something was not right. how does it feel to be a big shot and so important?:hypercoffee:hypercoffee

[philjones]

No, I am waiting for the day that UPCI get their heads screwed on right so the church can move on past the junk....then I might come back to my home.


I am not bashing UPCI, I am praising and exited about the con's leaving.

If they leave then God can have his way. This is Hope.

I love it!:driving

So, although you, according to your words, are not UPCI bashing... you are without a doubt CON bashing!

You just have to bash someone don't you?:bedtime:bedtime It is a good thing you are not bitter or suffering the malaise of hate or you would really be bashing!

[BrotherEastman]

if you are the evidence this statement is true.. I am not worried about the UPCI!:killinme:killinme
And you rebuke me for my insensitivities?:shifty:ranting

[philjones]

I love and support change in the UPC!





This a pro- UPCI thread in hope for good change!
:congrats:bdayparty:amen:shockamoo

Let me finish your statement, Coop:

BECAUSE PRESENTLY IT IS SO STINKIN' BAD!:gclock:gclock

[philjones]

And you rebuke me for my insensitivities?:shifty:ranting

Did you not see the smilies?:hypercoffee:hypercoffee

And besides, it's Coop and he is not a backslider.... is he?:killinme:killinme

[BrotherEastman]

Did you not see the smilies?:hypercoffee:hypercoffee

And besides, it's Coop and he is not a backslider.... is he?:killinme:killinme
I'll have to use smilies more often. LOL!:D:D:D

[tv1a]

There's a scripture which says they that hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be filled. Maybe Coop got a taste of what rightesousness is really about...


WOW, Coop, you are the big cheese with God!

Out of all the UPCI people, he chose to show YOU that something was not right. how does it feel to be a big shot and so important?:hypercoffee:hypercoffee

[Michael Phelps]

With all of the TV hating control people out of the org; standards will be next.

Thats why they are leaving anyway. They see it coming.

They realize saint's are not dumb sheep any more.

You mean like the ALJC? When they let up on TV, the standards just went down the tube!

Come on, Coop, you're really stretching here........the ALJC Articles of Faith are stricter than the UPC's on some things........I know the nay sayers will say, "Well TV is in, everything else is out", but it doesn't necessarily work that way.

[Admin]

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