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Steve Epley

07-17-2008 10:06 AM

Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 533005)

I will also use dancing in worship... just not SHOUTING.... there is a huge difference

Dancing is commanded - uncontrolled jerking is never commanded

The High Priest shook and jerked it seems the sheaf at firstfruits which is Pentecost do you suppose if the High Priest did that in type did it happen in reality on Pentecost? They SAW something Acts 2:33.

BrotherEastman

07-17-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 532292)

I am amazed that some seem to believe that "old time shouting" is out of order.

Do you believe in what the old timers called "shouting". I am talking about where the power of God falls in a service and folks start cutting a jig, or screaming? I am not talking about the Charismatic 2-step we see nowadays. But where one gets "lost" in the holy ghost. It used to be called "getting a blessing".

Uhhh, yeah. It's called expressive praise, hello people.

Dr. Vaughn

07-17-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 533011)

Matt already punched a big enough hole in your argument to drive a smie through.

I challenge you on that statement Elder

he actually agreed that the dance of David was not our type of shouting... go back and read brother.. again I challenge you to explain where he tore up my argument.

StillStanding

07-17-2008 10:42 AM

Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

Here's how i see it:

Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

I believe there is true worship and false worship. Some are truthfully worshiping God, and others are putting on a show!

Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

I believe we worship God in the following ways:

Prayer
Singing
Dancing
Praise
Giving
Preaching
Sacraments (e.g. communion)

Dr. Vaughn

07-17-2008 10:43 AM

Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 533022)

I am still waiting on those scriptures where God gave them dancing lessons.

RICO --- its not the instructions.. its the meaning of the word dance.. and it has nothing that resemebles SHOUTING OR JERKING... When David danced it was not SHOUTING ..... no Jewish dancing looks like shouting...

First of all there were no drums and David would have needed a good Apostolic BEAT to SHOUT...

BrotherEastman

07-17-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 532385)

All Jewish dancing is known commonly as a circle dance.. yes whirling,, very controlled, very common,, very NON PENTECOSTAL

Of course it was very non-Pentecostal, they didn't have the HG silly.

BrotherEastman

07-17-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 532395)

Why would I want to let people who have rejected Christ determine for me how I should dance before the Lord?

Good post Rico.

StillStanding

07-17-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 533106)

Of course it was very non-Pentecostal, they didn't have the HG silly.

:ursofunny

BrotherEastman

07-17-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 532387)

I think the following question would have been a more interesting thread title...

Does the NT support shouting in church?
Does the NT give us any examples of Pentecostal Shouting?
Does the NT give more instruction for church order or for pandemonium?

Does the NT prohibit expressive praise such as shouting? If so, please share the diluted doctrine so that we can blow it out of the proverbial saddle.

BrotherEastman

07-17-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 532397)

Actually he was not in his Undies.. he was in a Linen Ephod which was religious robes rather than royal robes....... the linen ephod would have been worn under his royal garments and then his underclothes under the linen ephod.. so he was not in his Undies.. he was not dancing so uncontrollably that he was in his underwear... he ABASED himself to the common man and was seen in an Ephod in public rather than his Royal Robes....

I will never understand how the Pentecostals can make any more out of that experience then what actually happened

If you have the Holy Ghost, you would understand it.

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