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GodIsGreat 11-22-2016 09:26 PM

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The Rock Church runs about 700-1000 on a good Sunday night. I believe that higher number is all the other works combined.

What I find funny is some of the saints of TRC, feel that The Rock Church is in direct competition with Pastor Holmes Church.

The truth is that The Rock Church is known for their leadership, while Pastor Holmes church is known for prayer.

The spirit of prayer bleeds through Pastor Holmes when he preaches.

Wilson and Young seem to think that they will win their city by having a church full of people with degrees. Both of them have said this over the pulpit. I was shocked!

I always thought that cities were won through a apostolic church where God IS in the driver seat (not by words but really in the driver seat), not by impressing a sin sick city with how "smart" their saints are by showing off a bunch of degrees.

Barb 11-22-2016 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GodIsGreat (Post 1457012)
The Rock Church runs about 700-1000 on a good Sunday night. I believe that higher number is all the other works combined.

What I find funny is some of the saints of TRC, feel that The Rock Church is in direct competition with Pastor Holmes Church.

The truth is that The Rock Church is known for their leadership, while Pastor Holmes church is known for prayer.

The spirit of prayer bleeds through Pastor Holmes when he preaches.

Wilson and Young seem to think that they will win their city by having a church full of people with degrees. Both of them have said this over the pulpit. I was shocked!

I always thought that cities were won through a apostolic church where God IS in the driver seat (not by words but really in the driver seat), not by impressing a sin sick city with how "smart" their saints are by showing off a bunch of degrees.

Do you have an ax to grind with TRC?

GodIsGreat 11-22-2016 10:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 1457013)
Do you have an ax to grind with TRC?

No. "An ax to grind" is pretty heavy, so no.

What I stated is very true. When you have a preacher who feel free to utterly bash and make fun of other apostolic schools in comparison to AST to someone (me) within minutes of just meeting me.

When you began to hear things come over the pulpit as "the way to go" or as okay, when they were once preached (and still is being preached against) ... homosexuals being tolorated as music directors, and their sin being justified in exchange for their talent ...

I can go on and on. It gets very old. However, we (saints) have been trained to sit down and shut up.

An ax to grind?

No. Pretty sick of the carnality, ungodly personalities, bold hypocrisy, high mindedness etc.. Yes.

Sister Alvear 11-23-2016 12:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GodIsGreat (Post 1457015)
No. "An ax to grind" is pretty heavy, so no.

What I stated is very true. When you have a preacher who feel free to utterly bash and make fun of other apostolic schools in comparison to AST to someone (me) within minutes of just meeting me.

When you began to hear things come over the pulpit as "the way to go" or as okay, when they were once preached (and still is being preached against) ... homosexuals being tolorated as music directors, and their sin being justified in exchange for their talent ...

I can go on and on. It gets very old. However, we (saints) have been trained to sit down and shut up.

An ax to grind?



No. Pretty sick of the carnality, ungodly personalities, bold hypocrisy, high mindedness etc.. Yes.

Are you from the Rock church?

houston 11-23-2016 03:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GodIsGreat (Post 1457015)
No. "An ax to grind" is pretty heavy, so no.

What I stated is very true. When you have a preacher who feel free to utterly bash and make fun of other apostolic schools in comparison to AST to someone (me) within minutes of just meeting me.

When you began to hear things come over the pulpit as "the way to go" or as okay, when they were once preached (and still is being preached against) ... homosexuals being tolorated as music directors, and their sin being justified in exchange for their talent ...

I can go on and on. It gets very old. However, we (saints) have been trained to sit down and shut up.

An ax to grind?

No. Pretty sick of the carnality, ungodly personalities, bold hypocrisy, high mindedness etc.. Yes.

so, there are gay musicians at TRC?

2theX 11-23-2016 03:52 AM

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:blah
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 626020)
Well, some have a sanctified term for lying.
We call it " evangelistically speaking."

O Lord help us, We're making mistakes as fast as we can.

Barb 11-23-2016 01:30 PM

Re: UPCI Mega Churches???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GodIsGreat (Post 1457015)
No. "An ax to grind" is pretty heavy, so no.

What I stated is very true. When you have a preacher who feel free to utterly bash and make fun of other apostolic schools in comparison to AST to someone (me) within minutes of just meeting me.

When you began to hear things come over the pulpit as "the way to go" or as okay, when they were once preached (and still is being preached against) ... homosexuals being tolorated as music directors, and their sin being justified in exchange for their talent ...

I can go on and on. It gets very old. However, we (saints) have been trained to sit down and shut up.

An ax to grind?

No. Pretty sick of the carnality, ungodly personalities, bold hypocrisy, high mindedness etc.. Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1457017)
Are you from the Rock church?

Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1457019)
so, there are gay musicians at TRC?

PROOF for it all, please...

2theX 11-24-2016 11:13 AM

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Im guessing Modesto Revival Center usually has about 5 to 900.
If there is a special event it can be up to 1500.
I wonder if they are counting daughter works?

2theX 11-24-2016 11:17 AM

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Just curious, why your interested in the numbers?
Maybe you could start your own blog website for us to see?
G-d Bless

Evang.Benincasa 11-24-2016 11:29 AM

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Homosexuals being tolerated as music directors, and their sin being justified in exchange for their talent?

GodIsGreat, I'm sorry, but the above statement is just an accusation based on your word and your word alone. Hence the reason the question was posed if you have an ax to grind? Coming to a forum, message board, Fake Book, etc and bringing this sort of stuff up doesn't prove anything. You are just blowing and going. Listen, you make a statement like Homosexuals being allowed on the platform blah, blah, blah, while never presenting evidence? This kills your whole post, weakening your credibility. If it is true then evidence would be provided. Other than that, you just make yourself look like a disgruntled church member, looking to kill those who offended you.


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