Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 930448)

Of course they do.....the UPCI's definition of grace and justification & faith! They can say anything they want until the terms are defined. :D

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930176)

Once again then moves on to testimonies substantiating the practice of laying hair ....
Woman who prayed for her father who's organs were failing and reminded God of her submission .... OUT OF THE HOSPITAL IN TWO DAYS

You can't fight RESULTS.
You can fight my theology but you can't fight my results.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930181)

(Paraphrasing)

A preacher said to him:

Brother Stoneking, We like your results but don't agree with your methods.

I told him why do you always have me come to your church and preach?

Your methods don't work, mine do.

Until you get better methods, I don't want to hear anything you have to say.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930192)

Spoke of the Southern California meeting, which was met with opposition (speaking of Larsen and Gray?) where he preached this meeting and spoke of the Allard hair miracle that resulted right after the service ..... in which Bro. Allard's son was injured .... in car wreck ...

Intestines a mess .... requiring surgery.

A woman in the audience called Sister Allar and preached LS message to Sister Allard on the phone ....

Sister Allard went to hospital and laid her long snow white hair....

Said: God I have been obedient, heal my boy
Doctor came .... checked Keith .... canceled surgery.


Ladies, apostolic .... We have hold of something that is more powerful than this world has ever seen

Ladies there is something we can do .... this is not a doctrine ... it is something YOU CAN DO ... IT HAS BEEN DONE.

Part of the gift of faith.

You can lay hands ... we can have healing lines

But ... We are beyond that ....

and need to get hold of the gift of faith (circa 1:50)

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930207)

This would seem as condemnation over Segraves as well.

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 930496)

Again he is trying to make the church effeminate..where does he quote miracles about a man believing God? It's all about women? How does THAT mesh with the order of creation?

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 930489)

God "cleaned" his head?

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 930491)

So the result was hair not faith? Hair not prayer?

Ah...LS should remind himself of something he has preached in the past on alter working. I remember him talking about our bad methods and then saying when people got the Holy Ghost they got it INSPITE of us not because of us...same goes with this Hair voodoo stuff...God is working on faith and prayer, their misguided Hair practice is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with their hair.

Why not quote testimonies of people being healed where a woman did NOT "lay hair" on the subject or "remind God"?

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930506)

Sufficed to say .....where are the miracles in which he lays his bald head on folks and reminds God of his submission and obedience to his covenant within the order of creation?

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 930498)

Except that DS is as bald as LS so....not sure what that shows but it must show something according to what LS teaches