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And yours isn't agenda driven?

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It is quite clear that you are driving an agenda yourself.

I may not be UPCI, but I do consider them my brethren in the faith, so at the risk of being called a UPCI apologist, I will say that I do find much objective truth in the UPCI, of course mixed with some stuff that is not biblical, that is why I am not a UPCI member, for I do not agree with how they have added some non-biblical standards to the faith.

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Exactly! When I stopped reading scripture to see what I was told was there by those in church leadership, and just read them as written, in context, it was quite an eye opening experience.

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I was so convinced by what I'd been taught that even still in my memory lies the verse I read that says women cannot cut their hair. I looked for that verse for two years to prove Billy Jones wrong! LOL!

Seriously though, I remember reading verses that I can no longer find. It was engrained in me that hard that I used to tell people it was there cause I read it!!

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The only change is that NOW, you are looking at the "context" through your husband's ideology. Point in case:

So, really, Sasha's questions remain:


I only believe what I believe. I think everyone has that testimony or answer.

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Well, that's how it started for her anyway. I noticed that too, but maybe she is getting to the point in the story where she has her own thoughts on it and it will be in the next installment. ;)

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The mothership doesn't need my help to self destruct. Everything in the UPCI is seen thru a prism of legalism including the views of the Godhead and salvation.

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Prax you should know better. Trinitarians have a difficult time separating oneness views from legalistic aspects many oneness apologists embrace.

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Yes and so far I have only been griped at by those who heard what i supposedly said from a second hand source.

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Actually, after I got past the "I don't want to talk about this" place with my husband, I decided that I needed to go back and look at those little scripture sets (1 Timothy 2:9-10, 1 Peter 3:3-6) in their full context. When I used my handy little Strong's Concordance app to get the original Greek word for woman/women, and it says this: "a woman, specifically, a wife". Then, I looked at the entire chapter and noticed that both of these texts are small parts of a bigger discussion in the context of the marriage relationship. It truly was like a light bulb came on. These verses aren't written for the pastor/bishop/elder to use to create dress codes and call them holiness. These are written to benefit the husband-wife relationship.
I have thus far come to the realization that I cannot judge a lady to be 'holy' by whether or not she is wearing jewelry. That is a preconditioned response that is difficult to reprogram, but I am working on it.