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Subdued 04-25-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 87354)
ROFL! Yer crazy!

Only on Wednesdays.

Theophilus 04-25-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms. (Post 86829)
It’s time to get over it and pray through this situation. Aren’t you people adults? So stop acting like a child who wants sympathy, and a pat on the back, and you want someone to tell you that it’s ok. You know it‘s not ok not to have a church. You say you’ve been hurt by your pastor, and pulled out of the UPC, or all church attendance anywhere. You hate all pastors everywhere because they are all liars you say. And now you can’t trust anyone else to pastor you, so find a church that teaches truth. All Pastors are not cut from the same mold. You need a church and you need a pastor. So stop being so childish and grow up. We can’t hold grudges folks. It’s time to get over whatever the problem is. After all, aren’t you people adults? You sound so childish by starting all these silly threads demeaning the UPC and all Pastors too. It’s time to get over it and Get In A Church Somewhere.

It’s OK with most people if your boss dictates what we should wear. I know plenty who dress in uniform in order to hold a job, but He’s paying us to do this. That makes all the difference. It’s ok if our Boss expects us to report to work on time, and follow some form of standard. And we tolerate it if he gets on our case occasionally, after all he pays our salary, and that makes all difference in the world. We are willing to do lots of things we may not like in order to hold a job, but you will not allow our Pastor to lead you to Jesus.

:rockband

:musicnotes "Somebody put something.....somebody put something in my drink!":hypercoffee :musicnotes

:rockband

Chan 04-25-2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms. (Post 86829)
It’s time to get over it and pray through this situation. Aren’t you people adults? So stop acting like a child who wants sympathy, and a pat on the back, and you want someone to tell you that it’s ok. You know it‘s not ok not to have a church. You say you’ve been hurt by your pastor, and pulled out of the UPC, or all church attendance anywhere. You hate all pastors everywhere because they are all liars you say. And now you can’t trust anyone else to pastor you, so find a church that teaches truth. All Pastors are not cut from the same mold. You need a church and you need a pastor. So stop being so childish and grow up. We can’t hold grudges folks. It’s time to get over whatever the problem is. After all, aren’t you people adults? You sound so childish by starting all these silly threads demeaning the UPC and all Pastors too. It’s time to get over it and Get In A Church Somewhere.

It’s OK with most people if your boss dictates what we should wear. I know plenty who dress in uniform in order to hold a job, but He’s paying us to do this. That makes all the difference. It’s ok if our Boss expects us to report to work on time, and follow some form of standard. And we tolerate it if he gets on our case occasionally, after all he pays our salary, and that makes all difference in the world. We are willing to do lots of things we may not like in order to hold a job, but you will not allow our Pastor to lead you to Jesus.

Excellent post! Even if it does hurt the so-called "self-esteem" (the sin of pride) of these whiners.

Chan 04-25-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 86845)
Some people are so hurt that they cannot get over it.Have you ever considered that? I know church people who have been through so much
and I always say that somebody is going to be sorry come judgement day
for having hurt one of Jesus's little ones.

But why are these people (who are in rebellion against God by forsaking the assembling together as commanded against in Hebrews) hurt? Did the pastor step on their toes? Did he preach something that resulted in Holy Ghost conviction? Did his wife fail to come to someone's baby shower (I know a couple that left a church for that very reason)? Did the pastor fail to coddle them and make them feel good about themselves? Why are they hurt? More often than not the reason people think they've been hurt in the church by their pastors or other saints is because of their own pride and selfishness.

tbpew 04-25-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 87835)
But why are these people (who are in rebellion against God by forsaking the assembling together as commanded against in Hebrews) hurt? Did the pastor step on their toes? Did he preach something that resulted in Holy Ghost conviction? Did his wife fail to come to someone's baby shower (I know a couple that left a church for that very reason)? Did the pastor fail to coddle them and make them feel good about themselves? Why are they hurt? More often than not the reason people think they've been hurt in the church by their pastors or other saints is because of their own pride and selfishness.

Its great to see that even you Chan are capable of making great, sweeping interpretations and generalizations. It really quite refreshing to read this substance-free style within your posting.

Old Paths 04-25-2007 03:55 PM

Hot Coffee MS.

You are soooo right.

Hang tuff.

Don't let the riff raff get you down.

:D

Timmy 04-25-2007 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 87835)
But why are these people (who are in rebellion against God by forsaking the assembling together as commanded against in Hebrews) hurt? Did the pastor step on their toes? Did he preach something that resulted in Holy Ghost conviction? Did his wife fail to come to someone's baby shower (I know a couple that left a church for that very reason)? Did the pastor fail to coddle them and make them feel good about themselves? Why are they hurt? More often than not the reason people think they've been hurt in the church by their pastors or other saints is because of their own pride and selfishness.

Since you asked, I will give some examples. (Some, not all, from personal experience.) You let me know, please, if they are worth "whining" about.

1. Whole family of teen and pre-teen siblings sexually abused by a prominent man in the church, over many years. When it's discovered by pastor's wife and some others, nothing is done about it. The man was never brought to justice. Died of old age.

2. Church member is denied permission to travel for grandmother's funeral. Not an acceptable excuse to miss church.

3. Pastor misappropriates church funds. Good ole boys in section leadership do nothing.

4. Brother (same mom and dad type brother) has cancer. Preacher prophesies divine healing. Brother dies from cancer.

5. From pulpit, pastor calls people out by name for sexual sin. Incorrectly, at that.

6. A wife is beaten by her husband. Knocked to the floor. Pastor does nothing, blames the wife.

Not to single you out, Chan, but would anyone here face these folks and tell them to just "Get over it!"?

BoredOutOfMyMind 04-25-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 87879)
Hot Coffee MS.

You are soooo right.

Hang tuff.

Don't let the riff raff get you down.

:D

For the rest of you-


Get Over It!

Trouvere 04-25-2007 05:44 PM

Not everyone is a whiner.Some folks have valid reasons.I think to generalize is wrong.Its like looking at someone else with a big beam in your own eye is what the word says.You cannot judge what another does or says or has gone through or even how they are coping as if the shoe were on your own foot you might not even fare as well.Let someone down at the church in ministry say rape or molest one of your children or grandchildren and lets see how it feels and how fast you are going to just get over it.Love beareth all things and even a weak brother or sister needs prayer and help and love.People do have a breaking point and the enemy of our souls knows this so he makes sure to put just enough pressure to destroy the weak.I refuse to tell anyone to just get over it.I want the Lord Jesus Christ to help them and to be a vessel of compassion for those who are lost and out of the sheepfold.

Timmy 04-25-2007 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 88043)
Not everyone is a whiner.Some folks have valid reasons.I think to generalize is wrong.Its like looking at someone else with a big beam in your own eye is what the word says.You cannot judge what another does or says or has gone through or even how they are coping as if the shoe were on your own foot you might not even fare as well.Let someone down at the church in ministry say rape or molest one of your children or grandchildren and lets see how it feels and how fast you are going to just get over it.Love beareth all things and even a weak brother or sister needs prayer and help and love.People do have a breaking point and the enemy of our souls knows this so he makes sure to put just enough pressure to destroy the weak.I refuse to tell anyone to just get over it.I want the Lord Jesus Christ to help them and to be a vessel of compassion for those who are lost and out of the sheepfold.

Thanks!


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