Sherri, I'm beginning to wonder if there's ever a time to be driven by the beat. I truly would love to see the instruments in these situations just stop. Yep, I've been caught up in it, too. When the music stops I'm like.........."huh?"


Sure, in the Lord, but in the flesh?

If we weren't in the flesh, we could walk through the walls. We're always in the flesh when we worship the Lord. I don't think there's anything wrong with dancing, leaping, or whatever in time with the music. But we also have to know how to get alone with God in our quiet times and just fall before Him in worship. I think when it's hype all the time, it gets very out of balance.

When I was at JCM in the 70's, on Sunday nights, if you didn't dance and shout, they thought you were backslid. However, some of those that bucked and hollered went out after church and did unmentionable things. That's when I think it's out of balance!

At our church our Pastor is the piano player and leads the worship. I am always amazed at the powerful alter calls we have without one note of music. God moves in incredible ways without any music until it is time to dismiss.

I Hate Dead Churches!
 

Good Lord - are you people Pentecostal? I like the beat - Actually - I LOVE this kind of Church - the Hammond Organ roaring, Piano keys running, drums beating about 100 MPH, bass beating, guitars strumming, tambourines shaking, people shoutin', running, jumping, dancing, praising and that is how I have always liked it. I AM PENTECOSTAL and I am NOT ASHAMED TO PRAISE GOD!

I HATE DEAD CHURCHES! Anything that is dead needs to be buried! I get sick of this judgmental attitude of dead heads that don't even know what praise is! IF you don't like it - don't watch it! Keep your mouth off of it - Your gonna need it one day!

This USED to be how Pentecostal Churches used to be. It used to be that way at almost EVERY UPC Church on Sunday night. Now it is so orchestrated and planned - you know exactly how - when - and where something is going to happen in a service. Some of it is worse than the A/G or COG and that is pretty bad!

It is still that way at Rod Parsleys, Tommy Bates, Clint Browns, TD Jakes and many other places. You wonder why his place is filled up with Ex-UPC? They got tired of going to the Professional DEAD Pentecostal Churches in Columbus and I have preached in them and THEY ARE DEAD as 4:00! DEAD - DEAD - DEAD!
You know what is filling some of these churches up - people are sick of going and hearing ONE GOD - like other people REALLY believe in more than ONE - water baptism - hair - pants and I LOVE THE UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH so much! You should LOVE GOD! I got so sick of hearing that - over and over. I LOVE the UPC - like it was some great Saviour!
These guys Preach JESUS - the Savior - the Healer - The Deliverer - The Need Meeter - the Baptizer in the Holy Ghost.
Oh Lord - Now I have went and done it - stepped on the Sacred Cow!

If this woman can get on here and say what she said about Bishop Jakes - who pastors over 20,000 people - I can say she is dead and twice plucked up by the roots - DEAD and needs the HOLY GHOST!

Some of you DEAD HEADS need to blow your sign up - YOU should be arrested for FALSE ADVERTISING! Pentecostal - Give me a Break! You wouldn't know Pentecost if it slapped you across the face!

Your Pastor CAN make a piano talk!

:tiphat

Ah, yes, the pontification of reprobation. The men you say preach 'Jesus' preach the flesh. I don't wonder even a little bit why the churches pastored by those backslidden fellas are full: it's because they appeal to the flesh. And, so what if TD Jakes pastors 20,000 people? Too bad ole' Noah only had eight folks in his congregation. He musta had 'dead church'. Probably too much of that mean old repentance preaching turned folks off.

I am Pentecostal to my core, mister, the real, old fashioned, apostolic, tongue-talking, singing, shouting, holiness believing, sin hating, evangelistic kind of Pentecostal that has something far beyond a cranked up emotional high once week when the racket is just right! And, I don't think you would know real Pentecost anymore, not even if it bit you in the hinder parts.

Dead Heads
 

:happydance LOL - Always putting others down to build your little man made organizational elitist, sectarian dead denomination up! DEAD HEADS!
There are SOME still around that appreciate a move of God and good HOLY GHOST music!::rockband :rockband :rockband

indeed, it appears that you have rightly judged yourself

There is a time, and a place for everything. There are times I believe God wants us to slow down and allow the gentle move of the spirit to come into the place. I have been in services that had they started jamming on the Hammond, it would have interrupted what God was doing. And then there are times when you just know from the start of the service that there was gonna be a hoe down before it was over. Each have their place, and each are important.

I do believe there are times that the "shout" is pushed at the end of a service, and Gods direction is discarded for the beat.

Acts 2:37-47
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

This sounds pentecostal to me!