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Jermyn Davidson 08-24-2012 02:48 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If (Post 1184021)
No.

I am simply tired of the church ignoring the fact that hard-liners have huge moral issues. They hide behind a look while engaging in gross sin.

These are the guys who constantly push ministers out of orgs because of doctrinal impurities.

Well it was the son, not the father who was arrested.
At 25, he is old enough to answer for his alleged actions.

Your assault on the reputation of a forner Pastor when it is his son that is accused does not compute.

Have you prayed for this family and church?

I hope you do.

I know I intend to.


"There go I but by the Grace of God." Have you ever heard this phrase before?

Light 08-24-2012 02:50 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If (Post 1184021)
No.

I am simply tired of the church ignoring the fact that hard-liners have huge moral issues. They hide behind a look while engaging in gross sin.

These are the guys who constantly push ministers out of orgs because of doctrinal impurities.

You need your mouth washed with soap.

tv1a 08-24-2012 03:01 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Forget about the victims of the alleged abuse. Let's drag more people thru the mud.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If (Post 1184021)
No.

I am simply tired of the church ignoring the fact that hard-liners have huge moral issues. They hide behind a look while engaging in gross sin.

These are the guys who constantly push ministers out of orgs because of doctrinal impurities.


houston 08-24-2012 03:02 PM

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Admin 08-24-2012 03:03 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
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bbyrd009 08-24-2012 03:23 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Ya that was a pretty broad brush, there.
I can't buy that anything like "most,"
or even "many" churches that hold to
standards would be in this situation.

tv1a 08-24-2012 03:43 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Sorry for the outburst. I know people who were molested by ministers. This thread won't help the victims at all.

Nearly everyone I know is over the affirmation statement debacle. The AS has nothing to do with the crimes the preacher is accused of committing.

Chateau is spreading gossip. "From what I gather" means CH was deliberately looking for for "evidence" of wrongdoing. Even then the best CH could come up with was allegations. CH has convicted someone with hearsay and second hand information. It is ignorant for a christian to stick their nose into a situation where there is no intention of trying to make the situation better.

Chateau d'If 08-24-2012 04:17 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1184017)
Don't you feel any conviction typing this stuff?
Bad enough the son was arrested, but you speak badly of the Pastor too?

Don't you have any conviction?
Or do you think it is God's Will for you to kick a man when he is down?

Despite what has happened, you yourself are on thin ice and you better go pray.

I am not being sarcastic and there aren't any smileys.

Be careful!

Funny stuff.

I am not afraid.

Evil men get by with these things because lemmings let them.

You employ the fear tactics of the ultracons.

These men have told story after story of people who have "left standards" only to fall into sin or some untimely demise. The premise is that legalism saves and protects.

Except it doesn't. We all have issues.

This illustrates the end result of works-based theology.

Flesh stinks no matter how you dress it.

As I posted earlier, at least they don't have TVs.

Chateau d'If 08-24-2012 04:26 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1184017)
Don't you feel any conviction typing this stuff?
Bad enough the son was arrested, but you speak badly of the Pastor too?

Don't you have any conviction?
Or do you think it is God's Will for you to kick a man when he is down?

Despite what has happened, you yourself are on thin ice and you better go pray.

I am not being sarcastic and there aren't any smileys.

Be careful!

Read this:

http://www.spiritualabuse.org/experi...win_young.html

tv1a 08-24-2012 04:32 PM

Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 
Do you have a dog in the fight? If not your part of the problem instead of the solution. You are doing nothing to help the situation. If I'm not mistaken, the Bible has something to say about people trying to cause trouble. I think people would like to know your motive. Why you want to be judge, jury, and executioner on allegations. Let the authorities handle the case and pray for the alleged victims.

The AS statement has nothing to do with the alleged crime.
That organization is so irrelevant in christianity. Why do you think DKB feels the need to "revise" their history? He has as to justify the organization's existence to the sheeple.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If (Post 1184054)
Funny stuff.

I am not afraid.

Evil men get by with these things because lemmings let them.

You employ the fear tactics of the ultracons.

These men have told story after story of people who have "left standards" only to fall into sin or some untimely demise. The premise is that legalism saves and protects.

Except it doesn't. We all have issues.

This illustrates the end result of works-based theology.

Flesh stinks no matter how you dress it.

As I posted earlier, at least they don't have TVs.



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