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mfblume 04-04-2015 11:14 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
That's why FIRSTFRUITS is the THIRD DAY following Passover.

The firstfruits was on the 16th of the month while passover was the 14th. Jesus is firstfruits of resurrection.

Leviticus 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

mfblume 04-04-2015 11:15 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1367642)
If the Jewish Friday began on what we consider to be Thursday night then I see how we can say Friday, but it would still be Thursday on our time. IMO.

I used to think that way, but I studied it out and found evidence contrary to that thought. Firstfruits was the 16th. Passover was 14th. Jesus rose on firstfruits. Good Friday is not wrong after all.

good samaritan 04-04-2015 11:17 PM

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I agree that he arose on the third day, but that still does not support a good Friday.

Unless:

if Fri. began 6PM-6AM night 1
Fri. 6AM-6PM day 1 (24hrs)

Sat. 6PM-6AM night 2
Sat. 6AM-6PM day 2 (24hrs)

Sun 6PM-6AM night 3
Sun 6AM- (He arose the third day)

That still would be Thursday on our calendar.

mfblume 04-04-2015 11:20 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1367637)
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

it was three full days, he was raised at the end of the third day.
which means that he probably was raised just before the end of the third day.

Again, though, partial days are factually consider to be counted as full days in the bible. And we have to go by the firstfruits feast as well. I disagree it had to be three full days and nights.

It was close to the sabbath when he died so he would not hang on the cross during sabbath. The sabbath was the seventh day. And I disagree it was another sabbath aside from Saturday. the word never states that.

Adam was created the day Jesus died.... sixth day. And their culture allows for partial days to be counted as whole.

mfblume 04-04-2015 11:21 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1367645)
I agree that he arose on the third day, but that still does not support a good Friday.

Unless:

if Fri. began 6PM-6AM night 1
Fri. 6AM-6PM day 1 (24hrs)

Sat. 6PM-6AM night 2
Sat. 6AM-6PM day 2 (24hrs)

Sun 6PM-6AM night 3
Sun 6AM- (He arose the third day)

That still would be Thursday on our calendar.

But again it does not have to be three full days and nights.

mfblume 04-04-2015 11:22 PM

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John Gill explains it well.

on all occasions, as in the computation of their feasts and times of mourning, in the observance of the passover, circumcision, and divers purifications, that מקצת היום ככולו, "a part of a day is as the whole" (n): and so, whatever was done before sun setting, or after, if but an hour, or ever so small a time, before or after it, it was reckoned as the whole preceding, or following day; and whether this was in the night part, or day part of the night day, or natural day, it mattered not, it was accounted as the whole night day: by this rule, the case here is easily adjusted; Christ was laid in the grave towards the close of the sixth day, a little before sun setting, and this being a part of the night day preceding, is reckoned as the whole; he continued there the whole night day following, being the seventh day; and rose again early on the first day, which being after sun setting, though it might be even before sun rising, yet being a part of the night day following, is to be esteemed as the whole; and thus the son of man was to be, and was three days and three nights in the grave; and which was very easy to be understood by the Jews; and it is a question whether Jonas was longer in the belly of the fish.

((n) T. Hieros. Pesach. fol. 31. 2. T. Bab. Moed. Katon, fol. 16. 2. 17. 2. 19. 2. & 20. 2. Bechorot, fol. 20. 2. & 21. 1, Nidda, fol. 33. 1. Maimon. Hilch. Ebel, c. 7. sect. 1, 2, 3. Aben Ezra in Lev. xii. 3.)

good samaritan 04-04-2015 11:26 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1367647)
But again it does not have to be three full days and nights.

It isn't full days and full nights. I am not saying He died the first hour of the first day nor am I saying He rose at the very last hour of the third day. he would still have had to died Thursday to even get three partial days and partial night to be three.

good samaritan 04-04-2015 11:28 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
Could you give me a hypothetical timeline in your opinion, at your convenience? Not arguing just curious.

mfblume 04-04-2015 11:30 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1367649)
It isn't full days and full nights. I am not saying He died the first hour of the first day nor am I saying He rose at the very last hour of the third day. he would still have had to died Thursday to even get three partial days and partial night to be three.

But that does not allow for the sabbath starting THAT sunset.

mfblume 04-04-2015 11:31 PM

Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1367650)
Could you give me a hypothetical timeline in your opinion, at your convenience? Not arguing just curious.

Same as what is actually usually known. Died Friday at 3pm and resurrected while the sun was rising Sunday morning.


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