Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

Garner Ted Armstrong.

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

Just a thought but last year Indiana Dist UPCI had a record of ministry to be ordained at Camp. I know...we were up in Indiana during this time.

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

I used to watch him on early EARLY morning tv back in the day... lol

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

So any more up and coming young UPC preachers leave "The Ark" since this exodus about 3 years ago?

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

Jay, you were criticized when you made this post, but I know what I have seen recently with at least 2 of the preachers mentioned in this thread and the only way to describe it is, "heart breaking".

I am sure I need to check myself, remove the beam from my eyes, and etc, but MAN I am deeply saddened by what I've just seen.


It's not supposed to be this way.

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

Not sure about "Heart Breaking" - maybe a little confused. That said, without sitting down and talking to folks like Mark, and Anthony (to name two who left the Mother ship) - it is in some ways impossible to know exactly why they left and why they changed.

It is easy to pick at them for obvious dropping of certain "standards", but other then that I would think there would have to be some sort of conversation as to intent and motive - not just looking at church websites and drawing conclusions.

Maybe I am missing something??

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

Yup. Don't you just hate it when they stop screaming and waving a microphone around and just simply bring the word of God to people in a normal tone of voice? All of the annointing is just gone.:highfive

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

We are brothers in Christ, but we are not on the same page here.

More to it than screaming.

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

Wow, I posted that so long ago that I had to rethink what I was saying. Yes, I took some heat for it, but I have recently found the messages that he preached at the Illionois Youth Camp, and I still found myself heartbroken over him.

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 

I do not know about Anthony Trout, but Mark Johnston went into the emergent movement, or was at least very strongly inclined in that direction. Much of his website reminded me of the Christ asking the question, "If the blind lead the blind, shall they not both ende up in the ditch?" He went from discussing the absolute truths of the Word, to talking about how we are are on a journey to discover the truth (as if it were as yet unrevealed). This is, as I understand it, one of the indicators of an emergent preacher.