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Walkbyfaith7 01-15-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 358381)
Sister, are you still in study and willing to learn more? Also if you were to discover that you had been incorrect in what you had found, would you be willing to make the proper changes?

Again I thank you for your time. :)

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

www.IfAmericansKnew.com

I appreciate your nice spirit you are displaying here Evangelist!
Didn't know you could be so nice.

Evang.Benincasa 01-15-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 358541)
My answer to both is "absolutely." I yet study and hopefully will never want to come to a place where I stop or think I know it all.

Sister that's the answer I'm looking for. I have seen people who get offended and see standards as just un-biblical, but when we look at the word with history backing it up we find that Jesus loved the separation of dress, but hated the hypocrisy of inward falseness.

We also find that throughout history water baptisms in many religions was required of initiation, and that Christendom for hundreds of years baptism was a must and during the 3rd to 7th centuries water baptism was administered in the name of Jesus Christ and it was also customary that the baptizer spoke the name over his convert.

In our church family we believe that we are to listen to everyone and read everything but believe absolutely nothing unless we can prove it with our own research.

The Pharisee religion that is Rabbinical Judaism survived past 70 AD, because of it's separation of lifestyle, dress, and community. If you study throughout history you will find that the holiness movements were the stronger groups because of their devotion. The difference between the Rabbinical, early holiness movements and what you have experienced, is that the teachers are to challenge you to ask questions. People are to be taught, not to be told.

When people are taught out of Sunday School Quarterlies and not compelled to ask questions and dig it out for themselves. They never get the information deep down. I'm not talking about having people memorize doctrine like Jehovah Witnesses, but having the people dig it out and then teach it back to the teachers.

Study it out Sister and we will see where you are at in 10 more years. I hope you see what I see.

Lord bless your heart.

I thank you for your kindness in this discussion.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

www.IfAmericansKnew.com

HeavenlyOne 01-16-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 358557)
Sister that's the answer I'm looking for. I have seen people who get offended and see standards as just un-biblical, but when we look at the word with history backing it up we find that Jesus loved the separation of dress, but hated the hypocrisy of inward falseness.

We also find that throughout history water baptisms in many religions was required of initiation, and that Christendom for hundreds of years baptism was a must and during the 3rd to 7th centuries water baptism was administered in the name of Jesus Christ and it was also customary that the baptizer spoke the name over his convert.

In our church family we believe that we are to listen to everyone and read everything but believe absolutely nothing unless we can prove it with our own research.

The Pharisee religion that is Rabbinical Judaism survived past 70 AD, because of it's separation of lifestyle, dress, and community. If you study throughout history you will find that the holiness movements were the stronger groups because of their devotion. The difference between the Rabbinical, early holiness movements and what you have experienced, is that the teachers are to challenge you to ask questions. People are to be taught, not to be told.

When people are taught out of Sunday School Quarterlies and not compelled to ask questions and dig it out for themselves. They never get the information deep down. I'm not talking about having people memorize doctrine like Jehovah Witnesses, but having the people dig it out and then teach it back to the teachers.

Study it out Sister and we will see where you are at in 10 more years. I hope you see what I see.

Lord bless your heart.

I thank you for your kindness in this discussion.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

www.IfAmericansKnew.com

Just going to take the bolded part above to comment on.

I have to wonder how you get that idea when the only people separated by their dress (as well as known for such) were the Pharisees and not Jesus and His disciples?


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