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pelathais 05-28-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Florence Nightingales healing
 
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 474610)
Do you not rejoice about the "some got up"

or would it have to happen among your little group of ministers before you will rejoice that OUR GOD INDEED HEALED some..... if not all

Bro. Barnes left with MANY MANY still sick in his meetings.....

I wonder about the "some got up." And FWIW, I have no "little group of ministers." And by "Bro. Barnes" I assume you mean T.W. Barnes - you know it's funny, I met Bro. Barnes on at least a couple of occasions and ate with him at least once, that I remember - but I never heard him preach.

I'm not so much concerned with the fact that not everyone gets "healed," at a Pentecostal service. We know about that. What concerns me about Branham are the claims that he made of himself and the claims that his followers have made. We are to test these claims (1 John 4:1; Revelation 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:21).

Nothing in World War 2 matches up to what William Branham described as was going to happen. You and I will grow old together and some day go on to our reward - but California will still be sitting there just as it is today.

Okay, maybe California will have more wind farms, but it won't "fall off into the ocean." I predict that. Get back with me when you're cashing your Social Security checks and you'll see that I'm right and William Branham was wrong.

Except maybe about the Social Security checks - now Social Security falling into the ocean is a definite possibility, but California will still be there long after humans are gone.

And about Congressman Upshaw's healing: I haven't been able to find anything that substantiates that story except excerpts from the same story that you cut-and-pasted here. Upshaw's official Congressional biography is here, it doesn't mention a healing. Do you know of any other sources for this other than the "BelievetheSign" article?

Broken 05-28-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
I do know today that if I call on Jesus - he will heal

I do know if I call on William Branham today he couldn't heal a fly with a headache as he is as dead as every earthly man that died however my JESUS liveth and liveth and liveth again for all eternity.

TRFrance 05-28-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 474665)
So Rico,, all those reaching out to him.. were there just to touch the man? Do you honestly propose NO ONE else was there for healing from the great healer?

The blind man was not healed the first either....

In Jesus home town he could perform NO MIRACLES ----

Matt 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

Why could he not do many mighty works??? He should have been able to see the sick healed...... anywhere he went..... I can only imagine the whispers when he was there... "why are the sick still sick"

There's something very unsettling about this post, Vaughn. It's almost as if you're trying to bring Jesus' ministry down a bit; that is, closer to Branham's level... while elevating Branham's ministry, closer to Jesus' level.

Very disturbing.

Dr. Vaughn 05-28-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
All I can give you are the congressmans own words.... is that fair enough?

http://en.believethesign.com/index.p...e=Upshaw_tract

Broken 05-28-2008 05:59 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 474674)
All I can give you are the congressmans own words.... is that fair enough?

http://en.believethesign.com/index.p...e=Upshaw_tract



Please get up and shake yourself from the chains that bind you!

Rico 05-28-2008 06:01 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 474665)
So Rico,, all those reaching out to him.. were there just to touch the man? Do you honestly propose NO ONE else was there for healing from the great healer?

The blind man was not healed the first either....

In Jesus home town he could perform NO MIRACLES ----

Matt 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

Why could he not do many mighty works??? He should have been able to see the sick healed...... anywhere he went..... I can only imagine the whispers when he was there... "why are the sick still sick"

I'll stick with what the Bible says. It says one woman reached out to him to get healed and she got what she came for. Their unbelief is what caused Jesus to not do many mighty works in His home town. That in no way suggests Jesus couldn't heal any one of them had they wanted it. You tried to justify Branham's failures at healing by saying even Jesus didn't heal them all. Jesus healed everyone that came to Him for a healing. You do not have even one scripture that shows he tried and failed. At this point I don't know which is worse; people such as yourself exalting Branham beyond measure or you trying to bring Jesus down to Branham's level.

TRFrance 05-28-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
Vaughn, I dont know how much you realize it, but over the past few days here you have said much to exalt Bro Branham and his memory...much more than you've said to exalt Jesus Christ.

I think you need to really take a step back and realize what you're doing here. God is a jealous God, and does not wish to share his glory with any man!

Rico 05-28-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 474673)
There's something very unsettling about this post, Vaughn. It's almost as if you're trying to bring Jesus' ministry down a bit; that is, closer to Branham's level... while elevating Branham's ministry, closer to Jesus' level.

Very disturbing.

Wow. This is exactly the same thing I see happening.

Dr. Vaughn 05-28-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
Did he not heal but just one among that great throng of people that day?

He didn't heal Lazarus.. can you imagine the rumors going around that Jesus couldnt even heal his best friend.. of course now we know it was for a purpose.. it wasnt Gods will for him to be healed....

and that is the point I am trying to make... if anyone would at least be reasonable and hear me... I'm not bringing Jesus down... I am saying not everyone is supposed to be healed.. is that tooo far out to comprehend?

Dr. Vaughn 05-28-2008 06:06 PM

Re: Testimony of Gods healing power
 
Just as I exalt God when I exalt Christ because GOD was IN CHRIST... just as I exhalt God when I exalt Peter, God was with Peter..... I do the same when I exalt Bro. Branhams memory because GOD was with Bro. Branham

Nicodemus..,, sums it up
"no man can do the miracles you do except GOD BE WITH HIM"

So, if God is with someone... such as Bro. Barnes.. and we sit around and talk about Bro. Barnes and all the things God did in his ministry... are we not in fact exalting God at the same time....


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