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Dordrecht 03-12-2013 09:54 PM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
I can say one heck of a lot
more on this thread, but I won't.

houston 03-12-2013 10:41 PM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1233489)
I can say one heck of a lot
more on this thread, but I won't.

Thanks.

Timmy 03-15-2013 08:24 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Aquila, deafdriscoll, Evenuntodeath, Godzchild, Luke, navygoat1998, PastorTLArt, PreacherME, seekerman, shag:

You all voted "Yes". I invite you all to explain how you know this. Is it impossible for a human to do as much evil as Hitler has done, without demonic "help"? How much evil is enough to proclaim with certainty that someone is demon possessed?

Timmy 03-15-2013 09:33 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Arphaxad, Jermyn Davidson, and MarcBee:

Why did you vote "No"?

Timmy 03-15-2013 09:35 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1234275)
Aquila, deafdriscoll, Evenuntodeath, Godzchild, Luke, navygoat1998, PastorTLArt, PreacherME, seekerman, shag:

You all voted "Yes". I invite you all to explain how you know this. Is it impossible for a human to do as much evil as Hitler has done, without demonic "help"? How much evil is enough to proclaim with certainty that someone is demon possessed?

And Renee29, thanks for voting. Would you like to comment?

seekerman 03-15-2013 09:36 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1234275)
Aquila, deafdriscoll, Evenuntodeath, Godzchild, Luke, navygoat1998, PastorTLArt, PreacherME, seekerman, shag:

You all voted "Yes". I invite you all to explain how you know this. Is it impossible for a human to do as much evil as Hitler has done, without demonic "help"? How much evil is enough to proclaim with certainty that someone is demon possessed?

Can I change my vote to "no"? :)

Just kidding. Among the things which make be believe that Hitler was demon posses is the total disregard for human life and his belief that it needed to be eradicated. He viewed other humans as less than human, no more than a litter of animals with no value to them. The total disregard for the lives of other men, women and children, his systematic actions of eradication with apparently no conscience, is a major reason I view him as demon possessed.

(cue OT references of destruction of neighboring tribes by Israelites!!) :)

Timmy 03-15-2013 09:37 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1234298)
Can I change my vote to "no"? :)

Just kidding. Among the things which make be believe that Hitler was demon posses is the total disregard for human life and his belief that it needed to be eradicated. He viewed other humans as less than human, no more than a litter of animals with no value to them. The total disregard for the lives of other men, women and children, his systematic actions of eradication with apparently no conscience, is a major reason I view him as demon possessed.

(cue OT references of destruction of neighboring tribes by Israelites!!) :)

Thanks. ;)

MarcBee 03-15-2013 09:57 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1234296)
Arphaxad, Jermyn Davidson, and MarcBee:

Why did you vote "No"?


...because I no longer believe in anything supernatural until such can be verified independently from other peoples' "beliefs."

Timmy 03-15-2013 09:59 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
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Originally Posted by MarcBee (Post 1234312)
...because I no longer believe in anything supernatural until such can be verified independly from other peoples' "beliefs."

Thanks. Do you think that's possible? How might a supernatural even be verified? Do you know of any cases that have been verified?

MarcBee 03-15-2013 10:27 AM

Re: Was Adolf Hitler demon possessed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1234314)
Thanks. Do you think that's possible? How might a supernatural even be verified? Do you know of any cases that have been verified?

Probably once a supernatural phenomenon is independently verified, said phenom then falls under heading "natural explanation" which by definition is no longer supernatural. So in that sense, the naturalist will never accept anything until it becomes naturally explained, verifiable. The polar opposite to that is the believer who cannot accept the (otherwise convincing to the modern world) verifiable, natural explanation if it's perceived to contradict his or her faith. For example, the bible writer supposed that epilepsy is caused by demons, so Jesus to the rescue to chase out the demon. Today, it's verifiable that epilepsy is a neurological malfunction, and treatable by neurological means. Of course the believer will claim special cases of demonicly invoked epilepsy so as to maintain their beliefs. Or, will claim that epileptic *behavior* is what the bible writer really meant, not to be conflated with modern medical terms. Whatever it takes.


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