Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

Not sure about that one. Still studying it.

I also don't think the apostles thought in terms of 'when EXACTLY are one's sins forgiven?' like we seem to be fixated on.

I am trying to change my paradigm to be more biblical, ie more like the world-view the apostles had. I have found that many of the 'issues' we have nowadays in matters of religion would have seemed quite strange and foreign to the apostles and the first generation of Christians. There are some things the Bible doesn't address. Not because God 'overlooked something', and not because He thinks them to be unimportant, but more likely because we are on a different page than He is. We create issues where none need to be.

Why is there an issue about this? I cannot fathom why someone would spend so much effort trying to prove baptism doesn't save us, sins aren't washed away in baptism, baptism is a 'work', baptism doesn't really do much of anything... what's the point? Such arguments only seem to support someone who wants to REFUSE TO BE BAPTISED. Whoever heard of a believer in Jesus who REFUSED TO BE BAPTISED?

It's like finding an answer to a question never asked, or a solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist...

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

I've never heard it taught that baptism washes away sin. It is ,however, you symbolically renouncing the flesh and putting to death your old man. It is also a surrender of the temple of your body to the authority of the One who purchased it as his dwelling. It is a step towards the new birth. We simply cannot ignore Jesus' own words...


He who believes and is baptized shall be saved (saved by "washing of new birth and renewing of the Holy Ghost" as Paul said in Titus 3:5. If we are not willing to renounce the old man, we cannot expect to receive the new man.)

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

Absolutely amazing...............................:icecream

So we should shut up as y'all proclaim that baptism is for the forgiveness of sins?

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

I find it interesting that the writer (and the source he quotes) have obfuscated what Peter wrote:

"...The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...".

Nothing Peter wrote before or after this alters the force of this declaration. It explicates, but doesn't alter. And through his explication he re-enforces his declaration: that baptism's efficacy is spiritual in nature, not in the realm of the flesh.

This agrees with Paul's statement that baptism performs a circumcision of the heart (Col 2:11-12).

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

Yep...all those protestants that believe in addition to what Christ did we need faith and repentance...sad isn't it?

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

Nobody I've ever met believes that.

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

It would appear that "Simple Believism" is alive on AFF and anyone that advocates repentance, water baptism, infilling of the Holy Ghost and separation is ADDING TO the work of Calvary.
Bunch of Baptist!


:laffatu

I don't know anyone (here) who doesn't believe in repentance, water baptism, and the Holy Spirit.

Re: Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43
 

Right. Believing in "repentance, water baptism, and the Holy Spirit" and saying that they essential for one's salvation is two different things.