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Esaias 08-12-2024 10:36 AM

Re: Leadership Structure
 
The two church "offices" are bishop (overseer) and deacon (minister/servant/assistant). Since each congregation was to have bishops, and each was to have elders (ordained elders), it seems the bishops (and possibly also the deacons) were the elders. So I don't see elders (presbyters) as a separate class from bishops and deacons.

This structure is essentially the same as first century synagogue structure except there is no "president" (that role being fulfilled by Jesus through His Spirit in the church).

Esaias 08-12-2024 10:37 AM

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A good rule of thumb is to be wary of people who seem intent on delegating power to themselves...

Evang.Benincasa 08-12-2024 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1616557)
The two church "offices" are bishop (overseer) and deacon (minister/servant/assistant). Since each congregation was to have bishops, and each was to have elders (ordained elders), it seems the bishops (and possibly also the deacons) were the elders. So I don't see elders (presbyters) as a separate class from bishops and deacons.

This structure is essentially the same as first century synagogue structure except there is no "president" (that role being fulfilled by Jesus through His Spirit in the church).

:highfive

Evang.Benincasa 08-12-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1616558)
A good rule of thumb is to be wary of people who seem intent on delegating power to themselves...

Yes.

Sadly in the land of the blind. The one eyed man is king. My opinion is that it is usually the people who prop up the king. Either they vote him in by ballot. Or they follow him all the way to the Kool Aid. Despots need an inner circle. They can’t hold authority without it. They need the groomers in the pews to keep everyone in obedience to the authority. If the Holy Ghost starts to move among the true believers, the inner circle will either put out the fire. Or report on what they view as rebellion. Yet, this is a double edged sword. Instead of a single despot with an inner circle. You have a congregation policing what the “elder” or pastor can present to the church. On one hand you have an individual looking to delegate power to themselves. On the other you have a group who look to delegate power to themselves. People always try to control and say it’s the Holy Ghost. 40,000 denominations in this country? More probably to be coming soon?

Evang.Benincasa 08-12-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1616555)

Oh boy oh boy.

How could we forget him :lol

Amanah 08-12-2024 03:12 PM

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I don't regret the time I've spent at CACI, it's been an amazing learning experience, there has been some excellent teaching and great people. I've personally grown in the last two years in many ways.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart
Lean not unto your own understanding
In all your ways a knowledge Him
And He will direct your paths.

Evang.Benincasa 08-12-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1616562)
I don't regret the time I've spent at CACI, it's been an amazing learning experience, there has been some excellent teaching and great people. I've personally grown in the last two years in many ways.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart
Lean not unto your own understanding
In all your ways a knowledge Him
And He will direct your paths.

:thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa 08-12-2024 03:52 PM

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It’s a beautiful thing to watch the Lord Jesus Christ Shepard His sheep. Those sheep who hear His voice and the voice of a stranger they will not follow.

Praise the Lord in Jesus name.

diakonos 08-13-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1616512)
Who is the Oneness Pentecostal former UPC or ALJC guy who was supposedly ordained by an Antiochene Orthodox Church bishop or Metropolitan, thus claiming his Oneness Pentecostal church group has apostolic succession all the way back to Paul himself?

I keep thinking that is Mr White of the CACI but I am probably thinking of someone else... he's been discussed here before once or twice...

The guy in Texas… I don’t recall his name

Nicodemus1968 08-13-2024 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1616562)
I don't regret the time I've spent at CACI, it's been an amazing learning experience, there has been some excellent teaching and great people. I've personally grown in the last two years in many ways.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart
Lean not unto your own understanding
In all your ways a knowledge Him
And He will direct your paths.

Im sorry haven't been keeping track. Are you leaving CACI?


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