Perhaps thats the problem. You think someone who calls the Lord by the name given to him by his Father is trying to impress you. Actually I do it to honor HIM. If I were trying to impress "Apostolics" I would have given up a long time ago.

Straighten up? Get real? Dont waste your embarassment on me. I rejoice in the name of the LORD (YAH) all day long! HalleluYAH he reigns!

Again and I wont ask again, using your logic do you feel it is wrong for a Messianic Jew to call Yeshua "Jesus"? After all to HIM that is a foreign name.

Most do not concern themselves with the post glorification Jesus as they believe that it is not important.

How low did He go?
How high did He go?

It is not that Jesus only became one of us in humbling himself unto the cross, but how high He went in glorification defines the work of God and who He Is.

Will not be back on for awhile....God bless you Brother Strange and you too Brother Gibson...

This is nuts. Why would you ask me to pass judgment on a Jew concerning what he might call Jesus? I neither speak Yiddish, Hebrew, or Aramaic. I wouldn't know if he was calling on the name of the Lord or reciting Romeo and Julliet. But, if that Jew calls on the name of the Lord in MY language, I understand him. Otherwise he is a Barbarian (a foreigner) to me.

I too rejoice in the name of the Lord. He indeed reigns. But I have no idea who YAH is. I doubt that you speak very much Hebrew either.

It's silly.

Yes it is silly of you to take someone to task over calling Jesus by the name he was born with. No one asked you to do so or is asking you to do so now. But the silly part is you have been doing this to me ever since back on the Good News Cafe when you were going by Adonyah.

Since you used that name you INDEED must know who YAH is. And various times when I have used a Hebrew name you have taken occasion to murmer about it. Why on Earth did you use AdonYAH for your own name if you know him not and if its silly?

But to refresh your memory I will introduce you to the God of the Bible again.

Old Testament:

4: Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name YAH, and rejoice before him.
5: A father of the fatherless, and a defender of the widows, is God in his holy habitation. Psalms 68:4 NKJV

New Testament

1: And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2: For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
3: And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4: And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
5: And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6: And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Rev. 19:1-6

Note here in the New Testament Alleluia is our way of saying HalleluYAH. Also note in these verses YAH is both called God and Lord God omnipotent.

What is the meaning of Yeshua? YAH SAVES

Since you are so offended by these glorious names I will try not to address you with them and use only the English if the Lord will.

Thank you.

English, I do understand but not Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic or even Yiddish.

btw, Adoniyah is in my English bible.

Jesus is my Lord. I understand that since it is English. But, I do not speak or understand all these other languages of the world.

God preserved and watched over His own Word and delivered it to me in the exact form that he wanted me to have it in by which I have no excuse to not know him. Thank God, by the use of my own language I come to know him. I did not need to employ a foreign language to come to know him. Had a foreign language been neccessary, I might would have been lost. But, I found the name of Jesus sufficient for salvation.

This is an article sent to me by Pastor D. L. Rogers Pentecostals of Milwaukee. He sent me this article today. I recieved permission from Pastor Don Rogers to post it here.

I don't see what Brother Rogers is saying that how their water baptism in Jesus name is The Putting On of Christ's Flesh.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

8/3/07

Doctrinal lesson

Pastor D.L. Rogers

THE BAPTISM OF JOHN
Acts 19:3-5

Oneness Pentecostals who Baptize in Jesus name for the forgiveness of sins never put on the wedding garment of Jesus Christ!!!

Paul told the Disciples of Christ how were you Baptized. They said under John for the forgiveness of sins unto repentance. Paul tells them in verse 4 there is a difference between being baptized for the forgiveness of sins and understanding the faith of putting on Christ in water Baptism. These people were re-baptized.
The United Pentecostal Church teaches that water Baptism is for the remission of sins all of our sins. They say the power of water Baptism is in the name of Jesus that remits your sins. They say putting on the wedding garment of God has nothing to do with water baptism because the flesh of Jesus was just like ours without sin. They totally denounce and call the putting on of the flesh of God in water baptism false Doctrine.
Based on this there baptism is like the Baptism of John. For the remission of all of your sins. These Doctrinal statements are found in both Search for truth and In my fathers house disciple ship material of the United Pentecostal Church.. David Benard of the Urshan Graduate institute also was quoted as saying, “ all of your sins go into the water in baptism”.



Putting on Christ is for your inherited sins and your inherited flesh and not the sins you commit:


Col. 2:9-13- Paul states clearly what sins are cut away as the circumcision of Christ.
The sins you commit are forgiven by God when we repent of these sins through the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ.
Water Baptism is for the putting on of the heavenly incorruptible flesh of Jesus Christ. Because no flesh and blood can inherit the kingdom of heaven. The believer must believe that Jesus is the bread from heaven and declare with understanding he must put on this Word made flesh in water baptism in order to inherit a body like Jesus. John 8:23-24, 1 Cor. 15:45-55, John 6:45-55, Is. 26:19.
Therefore water baptism is not for the forgiveness of sins. Forgiveness comes by repentance-you receive the Holy Ghost speaking with tongues. Remission of sins comes by obedience and understanding of putting on the flesh of God as the purchasing point of the wedding garment for the bride of Jesus Christ in water baptism.
Like people in the book of acts when I get baptized with the understanding that water baptism is for the removal of all my sins, or that I am going to Hell if I don’t have the formula of Jesus name called over me, I need to be re-baptized by putting on Christ.!!!
The born again experience has two different operations of the blood and the name of Jesus Christ. The believer must understand what sins are remitted in water baptism before he is rushed into the water. If he is told all of his sins go in the water he becomes confused when he begins to struggle with his committed sins after coming out of the water. This is very dangerous.
The forgiveness of sins comes by the Spirit of God when we repent of the sins we are responsible for committing. The remission of sins comes by the Word of the Father when we obey and believe that Jesus is the flesh made by the Word and put on the heavenly man by faith in water baptism.
Like Paul said how were you baptized-under the forgiveness of sins or by the putting on of Christ.





If Jesus is taught as a man with a human nature from Mary than the believer never put on Christ because Jesus had a dust nature like us all. The believer never purchased the wedding garment of the groom. He was baptized for the forgiveness of all of his sins because they say the single nature teaching of God manifested in his own flesh is false doctrine.



Like the people in the book of acts this is the baptism of repentance. There are Churches that strongly teach the believer is not to get baptized until they stop committing sins. Although this is true the believer should change and repent of their sins, they are being taught the baptism of John for the forgiveness of sins from an oneness perspective.

The believer must distinguish and understand what he is putting on in water baptism. Very much like the Old Testament circumcision. The believer had to count the cost and know what he was doing in order to undergo a very painful circumcision.



Putting on Christ is the circumcision made without hands. For our vile bodies one day shall be changed and fashioned after his glorious body, Phil 3:20. For we wait for the adoption of our bodies made in the heavens. Our Father has gone to prepare many mansions for you and I. For our dust nature bodies will one day be put off and we will be clothed with the tabernacles made from heaven. 2 Cor. 5:1-4.



SO HOW WERE YOU BAPTIZED?

Pastor Don Rogers is likely a good man. No doubt he is truly sincere in what he believes.

Amen Elder Strange. :) Pastor Don Rogers no doubt truly sincere in what he believes as we all do.

Lord bless your heart Elder.

In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

so in due respect Brother Benincasa is he saying that repentance coupled with baptism is not enough for remission of sins?