I doubt Berk was referring to the PCI guys of 50 years ago. It seemed he was comparing RP to other PCI folks and I found it bizarre he would imply that RP was somehow less than they are.

UPC folks get excited enough about the PCI view so now I guess the new thing is going to be to try and taint people by claiming they are not even that.

Oh, and I am editing this to rebuke you for saying there is not a dimes worth of difference between the PCI folks of today like myself and CC and a methodist church. That is either a lie or just ignorance talking. I am surprised at you. Or you are yanking my chain. You would never confuse the teaching, preaching, or presence of God at CC with a Methodist church.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! !!!!!!!

CC1 Pianoman said his son-in-law had not heard anything about the HGB and was thinking of taking him to some Trinitarian church where they preached about the HGB. That is what I think they were talking about. I read where a great number of AG pastors have not claimed to have recieved the HGB. So in truth they are a watered down AG. I imagine there are probably some that yet preach about it. But the PCI of yesteryear preached Acts 2:38 and some as much or more fervently than PAJC men even though they did not accept the water & Spirit teaching.

I agree and have posted before that the PCI folks of today are far different than those of many years ago. As we both have noted in the past you could attend a PCI church for years and never realize it was any different than a PAJC one many years ago as there was such empahsis on the HGB and water baptism.

I still contend that it is a gross error, lie, or ignorance to contend that churches like Christ Church are just like Methodist churches. That is just ignorant.

I did not say that. NOT GUILTY.

Diluted???? Please define???

The attitude of some on here and the way they set themselves up to judge others shows that they are "DILUTED" and "POLLUTED"

Who gave any of you the right to stand as Lord and Judge. Many of you should be rebuked in the very name that we baptize.....Jesus!

My question is how many services would someone have to attend before they recognized any distinction between Christ Church and say a Baptist church? Only asking not implying?

Alright, you got me. Ive been properly taken to task. I appologize for lumping all of you in the same boat.

I know that you are no where near the methodist. However, I do know there are many who are very much like any ortodox penticostal denomination. RP has move a long way from where his dad is. you mentioned a guy in the Dallas area that....well, i dont take back what ive already said about that.

but, I do appologize for taking way too much liberty. I am sorry.

Ferd, you know how much I respect your intellect. I think that is why it rubbed me the wrong way so badly!

I appreciate your words here and all is well.

Well lets see, How many Baptist churches have tongue and interpretation? I would say Christ Church nashville has that in the main service at least three or four times a year.

The presence of God is very strong at just about every service despite the lack of shockamoo. I doubt that is the case in most Baptist churches.

We baptize in Jesus name. Doubt that happens at the Baptist church.