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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 25241)

You don't wanna know what I think...

Well, I'll tell you anyway.

There are a few different schools of thought or pastors...if you will. There are those pastors who do not feel training ministers in their church is their calling. 2. Pastors who feel it is necessary to duplicate themselves and their ministry by cultivating ministers in their church. 3. Ministers who call men themselves to the ministry even though God is calling them only to faithfulness.

I know one pastor where most every single minister to my knowledge from that church has gone on to positive ministries. One pastor who came from this man is duplicating this and has planted at least 3-4 QUALITY men as pastors of burgeoning churches in the NORCAL area.

I know of another pastor that over a 20 year period, every single assistant pastor, associate pastor, and music director (save TWO, and one being his son-in-law), has left or been run out of town with a black cloud over their heads, and NOT ONE SINGLE ONE became a pastor or evangelist somewhere else in or out of the city. Most, in fact have left the church period...

I know yet of another who put men in positions to preach and they had absolutely no calling whatsoever. I have seen these men leave jobs to start churches and end up emotionally and spiritually damaged.

I think it depends on the pastor, if I were certain of a calling, I would leave running and screaming from some places.

Brilliant! Carp, this is one of your very best and most accurate posts... much appause bro.

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 26826)

Let me put a twist in this thread and asked a very sincere question.

What do you do with those older ministers that seemed to have fallen through the cracks in being trained? Those that attended churches where they were not cultivated and helped. Those that did not attend bible school. What do those older ministries do now that they have lost much of their youth, and have become discouraged in the fight?

To be concise, I have to tell you that I'm not too sure that someone can be 'too old' to preach. However, I'm smart enough to know that it's somewhat harder to help train a man that is working a job, raising a family and taking care of a wife and home.

I've seen the unfortunate truth of a young man that was greatly used of God and would have developed into a priceless minister make bad decisions.
First, he met a woman and fell in love... and stopped praying.
Secondly, he - by his own admission - put ministry on the back shelf until he got married... and had no time to invest in ministry.
Thirdly, he became confused and disallusioned by those young men who had surrounded him becoming strong, stable ministers and wondered why he was left behind.

I guess he forgot about #1 and #2... Today I've salvaged him to be a solid Saint with a great heart. The problem is that much of what he needed to develop was lost in the 'interim' period where he put what was important on a back shelf.

Could he come on now and be used of God? Absolutely. To the exent his once could have? We may never know because he's too 'wrapped up' in his world to seek God's world.

As for being in a situation where the time is not taken to develop and train a young minister? Well, that's a whole new post for sure. I would surely seek God to give me someone willing to mentory me in those critical areas that young ministers need it most.

By way of dealing with 'lost time' and questioning the will of God I would suggest a message I preached called "The Will is Lost but the Way I Know".

Perhaps more later.

Bump for the "more later"

I think there is no Pastor nor no Bible College that can totally prepare a young man for ministry on their own. It takes many working together.

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 30282)

I think there is no Pastor nor no Bible College that can totally prepare a young man for ministry on their own. It takes many working together.

I would agree with you completely... or maybe even more!

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 30349)

I would agree with you completely... or maybe even more!

HEY! Someone is agreeing with me for a change. Not used to that lately on here. :killinme

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 30352)

HEY! Someone is agreeing with me for a change. Not used to that lately on here. :killinme

You don't COME AROUND enough for anybody to agree with you! At least you don't POST ENOUGH for anybody to agree with you!

I miss the Posse days...................:drawguns
(Guaranteed to get a negative remark or two!)

:tease

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 30381)

LOL! Not sue the Posse wants to ride here.

I am determined to not be in the Top 10 Posters on this Forum. Ever.

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 30385)

LOL! Not sue the Posse wants to ride here.

I am determined to not be in the Top 10 Posters on this Forum. Ever.

Chicken........................................... .........................

Ain't never known you to be skeered, rrford!

:tease

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 30388)

Chicken........................................... .........................

Ain't never known you to be skeered, rrford!

:tease

"Wisdom is the better part of valor."